1897 Flogging Apparatus

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Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
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Another_Lurker
Jan 21, 2009#2
American Way, your link above appears only to go to a Google Book Search page for a volume called:

Proceedings of the … Annual Congress of Correction of the American Correctional Association

To get at what I suspect you intend, which I think is to be found here it is necessary to take further action and insert a term in the search box. Many of us here are either elderly or incorrigibly lazy, in my case both, and we don’t like having to take further action. I trust you’ll remember this for the future when posting links!

Do you know of any way to see the full four pages concerned, extracts from only three of which seem to appear in the link I’ve provided above?

Very brief details of the device from an article in The New York Times of 14 February 1898 may also be found here. This is a PDF file, and sadly part of the article is said to be missing.

Do you have information to support your claim that the report is false. Your nation was very into the new fangled electricity in those days, witness the enthusiastic adoption of the electric chair. One would very much like to think that the spanking chair was a reality!
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American Way
Jan 21, 2009#3
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
A “friend” of mine trashed the book that he “borrowed” from me. As I have stated in a previous post treasures abound in the Spanking Reaserach rorum amidst the trash and I was delighted that I unearthed this link. I assume it to be a media hoax as does the poster from its introduction on page 73 onward. The criticism has been duly noted. Benjamin Franklin would have been pleased by this invention.
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Another_Lurker
Jan 21, 2009#4
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Hi American Way. I was of course only joking about your links. This was an interesting one. I agree that it was probably a hoax, though the New York Times article is a little difficult to explain.

However, C P Hoyt, who is credited with the invention of one of the chairs (I think there are actually two involved here, fictitious or otherwise) was actually Warden of the Colorado State Prison at the time, not of a reformatory for girls. I don’t suppose his duties there left him much time or inclination to design spanking exotica for use on young women. Also it’s difficult to see how there’d be room for the four paddles specified. All of which points to a hoax.

I did find an article which referred in passing to ‘some’ of the Industrial Schools for Girls being equipped with these machines. However it later mentioned the New York Times article, so it may have simply taken the information from there.

If the reference in your post indicates that at one stage you had a copy of the book concerned, I feel it imperative to give you advice I regularly dispense:

By all means lend your car, your money, even your wife or husband, but never ever lend books!
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American Way
Jan 21, 2009#5
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
One confirmed use of a spanking machine is in a book on prison life in the concentration camps edited by Carlos Whitlock Porter and published by Historical Review Press in 1988. It is readily available under Internet Archives. It is not for the faint of heart so may I sugggest that you go directly to 11 in the first Chapter under “Whup People With Special Spanking Machines”.
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American Way
Jan 21, 2009#6
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Here is the direct link. http://www.cwporter.com/partone.htm
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Apr 09, 2010#7
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Spanking by electricity New York Times 1898: Spanking by electricity 2010:

A soft porn purveyor Michael Masterson who plays the school dean of Real Spanking Institute claims he has grown exhausted after years of spanking 18 and over school girl models. He has a solution. The Robospanker (previously mentioned). The idea is to cuff a girl to the bench on a timer and set the electric spanking machine on a setting. Someone once mentioned robotic matrix inflexibility on one of my threads. Theoretically you could set three setting and duration with time released cuffs. You can precisely match offense with sanction without favoritism. Below are shown three different size bottoms. Dont get me wrong Im not advocating it. Not a telling denial. No spanko will gain undue delight by administering or witnessing the paddling. You can go over to another room and have a cup of coffee or tea or something stronger and change settings with your remote control. You can allay fears of abuse and lawsuits by showing the video to parents and authorities. With the newer machines you have less bulk and they even accommodate canes. Here is a sample of victims of the new technology. Usual caveats are in order. Girls are shown in jeans acceptable attire except in Oxford AL. Please avoid linking if you find offensive. You dont have to surf the site. Don’t get me wrong I’m not advoacting adult content sites. Not a telling denial.

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Apr 17, 2010#8
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Video follow up of April 9th post from the 1897 flogging apparatus. What is appropriate for 19th century prison girls is not appropriate for 21st school girls. How many would be equivalent of six of the best or 5 swats with the paddle? This video recommendation came from an adult site chross blog so take note. I’m neither flogging (no pun intended) the product or the site. It would be no misbehavior in that school with the exception of the stray masochists. It would bring precision to the matrix barring a power failure.

new robospanker video
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Apr 17, 2010#9
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Why is it on wheels? Set to its highest power, it would surely go flying across to the other side of the room!
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Apr 17, 2010#10
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
In my humble opinion, I think the Spankomatic ll is a better choice if one is considering a spanking machine. The SOM ll is heavy and well constructed, no wheels. It also operates on compressed air, no rubber bands to break. It also has many different settings and a manual and automatic mode I’ve seen this machine in operation and highly recommend it.
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Apr 17, 2010#11
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
You dreaded it as a child and dreamed of it as an adult.

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Jul 19, 2010#12
American Way, your link above appears only to go to a Google Book Search page for a volume called:

Proceedings of the … Annual Congress of Correction of the American Correctional Association

Do you know of any way to see the full four pages concerned, extracts from only three of which seem to appear in the link I’ve provided above?

Very brief details of the device from an article in The New York Times of 14 February 1898 may also be found here. This is a PDF file, and sadly part of the article is said to be missing.

Do you have information to support your claim that the report is false. Your nation was very into the new fangled electricity in those days, witness the enthusiastic adoption of the electric chair. One would very much like to think that the spanking chair was a reality!
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We don’t know whether Canada carried through on this idea in the first link. This seems to defy the commonplace assumption that spanking machines are just a resilient myth.

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Jul 20, 2010#13
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Hi American Way.

Guess what it ‘s asking me to pay to get access to the page. I am registered with with NYT but won’t pay the ransom !!!!

Are you having to pay ?
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Jul 20, 2010#14
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
prof n: Pay? I’m doing the one shot $15.95 for ten articles. You have to guess by the headline whether it’s worth reading. I can’t imagine needing more than ten. I have tried to find archives from other newspapers as you have noticed but the major newspapers shut you out and make you pay fees.
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Jul 20, 2010#15
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Hi Prof.n. I’ve just joined up several times using randomly generated data. Each time I got taken through a different series of adverts trying to get me to sign up for something – anything – please! On declining, each time I was told eventually that my membership application was successful and that I was member xyzwhatever. However on trying to get to anything I was taken to a page demanding my credit card details.

Despite the assurance at the top of this page that

there seemed absolutely no way out without giving said credit card details.

I’d say they either have a temporary system malfunction or they are the sort of organisation you definitely do not want to give your credit card details to under any circumstances. I shan’t bother going back to find out which!
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c. farrell
Jul 20, 2010#16
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
The New York Times archive is free from 1851 to 1922. The “Winnipeg spanking machine” item is just a year too late (1923) to be free on line. (However, Time Magazine has a free snippet about it at
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic … 69,00.html .)

To save money, join a library that subscribes. I can access the whole of NYT from 1851 to 2006 for free by going to a library across town. Admittedly they charge 40p for every photocopy.

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Aug 22, 2010#17
One confirmed use of a spanking machine is in a book on prison life in the concentration camps edited by Carlos Whitlock Porter and published by Historical Review Press in 1988. It is readily available under Internet Archives. It is not for the faint of heart so may I sugggest that you go directly to 11 in the first Chapter under “Whup People With Special Spanking Machines”.
A series of drawings from 1914 to contemporary life starting with life magazine and a Sex Museum in 2002 featured in to more contemporary drawings follow. Machines in a school context is seen from the context of a late century cartoon to the recurring myth (?) advanced by the Beaver Television Show from 3:00 to 4:30 in the show from over 50 years ago when you know who was on the receiving end. A short fiction story tells of an incident near the age when I received the stick. The Nuns would never let a machine do their work. It relieved their frustration at our expense. A student thumbing his nose and paying the price cartoon of possible German origin is the last link.. I do believe a photo of a young lady in a summer frock in another thread that I recently posted came from France or another country in Europe. The 1914 is French. Perhaps it is an over simplification to call it an Anglais Vice.

Manually self-operated butt-kicking machine patent description

Abstract: The Manually Self-Operated Butt-Kicking Machine is in the form of a chair with a hole in the bench. The user sits on the bench with his posterior centered over the hole. A seatbelt holds the user in place. There is a kicking mechanism located below the hole, which has a boot attached to it. When the user or operator pulls the hand-operated lever, the boot kicks the users’ posterior through the hole in the bench. The Butt kicker is very user friendly with the number of kicking repetitions, type of repetitions, speed of operation, amplitude or height of the kicking cycle, magnitude of the kicking force, and impact and energy of the kick all controlled by the user or operator. This invention is a new, novel, and unique machine with multiple uses, which range from amusement to fundraising and from motivation to discipline. The objectives of this invention are also many, including, but not limited to, teambuilding, self-therapy, to inspire creativity, and to be used as a model for future devices and works of art. (end of abstract)

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1914 Georges Tofer Classic French Book Illustrator

Contemporary

Leave It To Beaver

Short story spanking machine and the Nun

Thumbing the nose at the teacher
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Nov 01, 2010#18
Spanking by electricity New York Times 1898: Spanking by electricity 2010:

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Has this associated press story appeared in corpun? Spanking machine proposed to punish graffiti artist or “taggers”. He has been out of office since 1994 prior to the advent of the robospanker. Chula Vista CA Mayor Tim Nader is baaaack

A spanking machine with a mechanical arm that winds up and swats the offender. Before the lashing takes place, though the offender’s posterior is measured for muscle and tissue density so that no individual would suffer dispoportionately because of their body structure.

http://www.smartvoter.org/2010/11/02/ca … t/bio.html

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Nov 01, 2010#19
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
THE SPANKING MACHINE

Red Wing, Minn., is spread to the gale of fame. The telegraph, that cannot lie, has told the world of Red Wing. At the State Training School in Red Wing a spanking machine is in successful operation. The teacher takes a refractory pupil and turns him into the patent spanker, which handles him with neatness and spanks him with despatch. Spanking done while you wait; this is of the essence of modernity.
But wait a minute. Is not this Red Wing machine the same that was at Jamaica, L. L, last summer, the famous “electric spanker” ? Alas! convenient as such a spanker would be, if children had not grown too good, it must be a myth.
And yet there may be work for steam and electric spankers still. Remember the system of discipline used by Amos Bronson Alcott, that “muddy Plato” of Emerson’s Concord. When Mr. Alcott was teaching school, if a pupil “behaved bad,” Mr. Alcott got a feruling therefor. Here is a great idea, worth reviving. Corporal punishment for children is gone, but how about corporal punishment for their elders?
Bring on your electric spanker for the correction, not the use, of parents, guardians, schoolmasters, and schoolmarms!

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Nov 01, 2010#20
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
News of the Minnesota Castigator in 1920 crossed the Atlantic.

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Nov 01, 2010#21
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Noble obsession of a resilient myth. Anna Goodyear, the granddaughter of the legend, had something in mind in 1907 from one to fifty blows. I wonder if this hearkens back to Puritan days given its geographic location. It’s more often applied judicially than as school corporal punishment. A public spanking would draw a crowd but for not always for a noble motive (Folsom Fair). I’m searching for the oldest mention outside of medieval torture that the nuns were good at.

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Nov 01, 2010#22
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Prior to the Urban Chastiser (well known Governor of Wisconsin George W Peck) there was a machine that pre dates it by 40 years from England. I’m not sure if the British machine is written of in Corpun.

From Milwaukie, indeed, in the State of Wisconsin, comes to me an engraving of a new machine called “Peck’s Automatic TJrchinChastiser,” by means of which a gigantic mechanical hand, worked by the teacher’s foot, acting on a snatch-brake, can be made to ,! spank ” naughty children, who are hoisted by
April. means of a crane or derrick in front of the machine, within convenient distance of the mechanical hand. “Children cry for it! ” says the letterpress accompanying the diagram. The whole affair seems to be intended as an advertisement of a comic paper published in Milwaukie. I note it here, because the idea of an Automatic Urchin-Chastiser, although droll enough, is not by any means new. Such a machine is described in a facetious periodical called ” The Man in the Moon,” edited by Albert Smith and Angus B. Reach, which was published so long ago as 1846-7. The Smith-Reach machine was ” smarter” than the Milwaukie one, being ” fitted with birch, cane, and strap barrels.” We used to be, and are still, to some extent, ferocious in our treatment of children. The ultima ratio of the milder-minded American ” school marms *’ does not go beyond an occasional spanking. Shirley Brooks used to say that the Americans rarely beat their children ; but, when they did, they gave them chloroform prior to the operation.
Shirley, as well as Albert and Angus, wrote extensively in the ” Man in the Moon.” So did Charles Kenney Among the artists who illustrated the work were the famous French caricaturist “Cham” (Vicomte deNoe), G. E. Hine, subsequently renowned as an English water-colour painter, Robert Brough, Archibald Henning, and myself; and it is for that reason that I have a distinct remembrance of the original ” Automatic Urchin-Chastiser ” idea.

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Jan 21, 2011#23
American Way, your link above appears only to go to a Google Book Search page for a volume called:

Proceedings of the … Annual Congress of Correction of the American Correctional Association

Do you know of any way to see the full four pages concerned, extracts from only three of which seem to appear in the link I’ve provided above?

Very brief details of the device from an article in The New York Times of 14 February 1898 may also be found here. This is a PDF file, and sadly part of the article is said to be missing.

Do you have information to support your claim that the report is false. Your nation was very into the new fangled electricity in those days, witness the enthusiastic adoption of the electric chair. One would very much like to think that the spanking chair was a reality!
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First link, N.B., works for girls too but not as often?

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Second link, fair without anger relieving mean-spirited paddling.

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Jan 24, 2011#24
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
The fast-improving spirit of the age has occasioned an active revival of the wholesome punishment of Flogging in the Army. At Coldbath Fields, and probably at other prisons, there is proceeding a restoration of the same good old discipline. Much mawkish sentiment has been excited by the circumstance, that at Woolwich, the other day, the diseased back of a soldier was lashed with a degree of violence a little too sanguinary. Therefore, lest the Cat should afford a handle to hollow philanthropists, by which they may succeed in wresting it from the control of colonels, and the grasp of drummers and executioners, it is expedient that some means should be provided for regulating the force with which the stripes are applied to the human skin, and the extent to which they lacerate it. For this purpose, an ingenious invention has been submitted to the Horse Guards, in the shape of a Flogging Machine. This clever contrivance is worked by steam, by the power of which the momentum of the lash can be precisely adjusted. At high-pressure, it exerts a quantity of Jack-Ketch power sufficient to lay bare the ribs and dorsal vertebrae of a muscular grenadier at one stroke; but perhaps it will seldom he required to perform this amount of action, at least in the present stage of our civilisation. When less steam is put on, it will, according to the reduction, tear and scratch the back to a depth varying from half an inch to less than a line,will produce mere wheals, or only a slight redness: and may, indeed, be made to “do its spiriting” so “gently,” as simply to cause a pleasing titillation, and to ply the cat with such leniency that its stripes would be just sufficient to whip the dust off an officer’s boots. This machine will render the military and civil authorities independent of a soft-hearted executioner, and will save them from the excessive zeal of one whose heart is too much in his work. To the civil prescribers of flagellation this instrument of torture will prove an especial boon, as it will enable them to inflict the exact amount of torment they please on the criminals in their power, instead of the uncertain agony of a whipping obscurely signified by the loose and indefinite terms, ” good,” sound,” and severe.” One further advantage presented by this interesting application of machinery must not be omitted: it is so constructed that, whilst at work, it may be made to utter a scream like that of the railway-whistle, in which the shrieks of the sufferer under its operation may be drowned if required. This engine of correction has received the warmest approval in a distinguished quarter, in which it has been pronounced a pretty piece of mechanism. Its introduction will mark, if not a new era, at least a return to an old one; and the rack, improved by modern science, will no doubt be re-established soon after the establishment of the Flogging Machine.
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Mar 15, 2011#25
In my humble opinion, I think the Spankomatic ll is a better choice if one is considering a spanking machine. The SOM ll is heavy and well constructed, no wheels. It also operates on compressed air, no rubber bands to break. It also has many different settings and a manual and automatic mode I’ve seen this machine in operation and highly recommend it.
An early spanking machine by Professor Duff Andrew Abrams. One hundred years ago his spanking machine intended for use with his children got him in trouble. He survived and later became an expert on cement.

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Jun 04, 2011#26
A series of drawings from 1914 to contemporary life starting with life magazine and a Sex Museum in 2002 featured in to more contemporary drawings follow. Machines in a school context is seen from the context of a late century cartoon to the recurring myth (?) advanced by the Beaver Television Show from 3:00 to 4:30 in the show from over 50 years ago when you know who was on the receiving end. A short fiction story tells of an incident near the age when I received the stick. The Nuns would never let a machine do their work. It relieved their frustration at our expense. A student thumbing his nose and paying the price cartoon of possible German origin is the last link.. I do believe a photo of a young lady in a summer frock in another thread that I recently posted came from France or another country in Europe. The 1914 is French. Perhaps it is an over simplification to call it an Anglais Vice.

Manually self-operated butt-kicking machine patent description

Patent

http://www.life.com/image/1431454

1914 Georges Tofer Classic French Book Illustrator

Contemporary

Leave It To Beaver

Short story spanking machine and the Nun

Thumbing the nose at the teacher
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Flogging is not in existence in the French army, nor is it likely to be introduced to test the machine.

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An Electrical Cat O’-nine-tails.A savant named Henri Roget, hailing from Lyons, has, it is stated, a new use for electricity. He has a patent to apply it as a substitute for the cat o’-nine tails in corporal punishment. The culprit, having been undressed, is securely strapped to a steel triangle, which is connected with one pole of a powerful battery. The other pole is connected with the whip, which consists of a number of steel wires covered with sponge. This whip is dipped in water before the stroke is administered, and wherever the wet wires touch an electric discharge takes place.

The inventor claims that the chastisement can be made so mild as not to injure a school girl, while, on the other hand, by increasing the power of the battery, a punishment can be administered beside which the knout would be mere child’s play, and at the same time no injury is inflicted, the disgusting spectacle-of a lacerated back is avoided, and the culprit, instead of having to be sent to the hospital to have his wounds healed, can be put to work in five minutes after the flogging is over. M. Roget intends petitioning General Boulanger, the French minister of war, to allow his patent to be used experimentally on the next soldier sentenced to the cat. Flogging is not in existence in the French army, nor is it likely to be introduced to test the machine.The Electrical World.
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Jul 08, 2011#27
An early spanking machine by Professor Duff Andrew Abrams. One hundred years ago his spanking machine intended for use with his children got him in trouble. He survived and later became an expert on cement.

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Spanking machines reminds us historically how electricity had its uses with imagination freshly fertile. From keeping marriages intact and children from misbehaving electricity was once considered a panacea. It has become lethal injection and not the electric chair when it comes to capital punishment. Our country is abuzz with an acquittal of a woman that millions wanted to see executed but I digress.

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Jesse H. Hamilton was born in Orange Township, Hancock County, on the 25th of January, 1878, and he acquired his early education in the district schools of Hancock County until he was nineteen years of age. That he made good use of his advantages is evidenced by the fact that he then proved his eligibility for pedagogic honors and became a successful teacher in the district schools. In 1905 he received from this institution the degree of Bachelor of Laws, and he was forthwith admitted to the bar of his native state. He at once engaged in practice in the City of Lima, where he has been successful both as a well fortified counsellor and a resourceful trial lawyer. He was elected probate judge of Allen County in November, 1920, and took his seat February 9, 1921.

Spanking machines abound but few with named recipients and as many details as this one. 900 revolutions per minute. This account has a name (Robert Cermack) that makes it all the more credible. He went on and held a position with Dow Chemical in Michigan. Wouldn’t you love a followup interview? Didn’t do me no harm.

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Alas, girls were spared. Unlike the machine below.

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Aug 15, 2011#28
Scroll half way down on the right under text portion. he genius for mischief the average boy is the match of any inventor.

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Aug 21, 2011#29
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Creepy Dennis spanking machine.

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it seems to be well suited for week school damsels who have to teach and control Western boys.

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Sep 20, 2011#30
We don’t know whether Canada carried through on this idea in the first link. This seems to defy the commonplace assumption that spanking machines are just a resilient myth.

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One of the earlier uses for flogging machines in military. The first I could find was from Russia of 1892. The Russian flogging machine of 1905 interested Europe. Maybe the pre-electric flogging machines worked better like clock springs.

The 1897 flogging apparatus was the thread I first jumped into upon becoming a part of this Happy Circle. Tempus fugit.

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Sep 22, 2011#31
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Superintendent Brockway of the Elmira New York. He in fact did not go electric (paddleorium). He was a center of controversy for the latter quarter part of the nineteenth century.

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This is a job for Brockway. Second column/second article pdf.

Any wife-beater who passed through Brockway’s paddleorium alive would be such a wreck thereafter that a woman could knock him out with a feather duster.

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/ … /seq-4.pdf

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Sep 22, 2011#32
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
American Way drew attention to the following newspaper article. It is one of many that appeared towards the end of the 19th century at about the time there was also concern about the spanking of girls. Neither wives or girls should be spanked, it seems. Doubtless, Jenny will have a view on this. Brockway was the warden at the notorious Elmira Reformatory were extremely harsh “spankings” were the norm. The torture was administered using a stout leather paddle with wooden handle at the discretion of the warden.

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/ … d-1/seq-4/

The World [New York] 10 January 1895, page 4, col. 2.

THIS IS THE JOB FOR BROCKWAY There is talk of paddling wife-beaters a la Brockway. The public health section of the Academy of Medicine discussed the subject last night, Commodore Gerry leading off with the suggestion that the woman-thumper be treated to a dose of his own fistic pharmacopoeia, and all the physicians present agreeing that whipping, spanking, paddling or any other form of castigation that would knock decency into brutal husbands would be a good thing.

One gentleman thought the spanking should be done by machinery. Whether his idea was to save respectable floggers from contact with the wretched creatures who beat their wives or to insert a man in the slot of an active machine wound up for twenty-five, fifty or one hundred spanks, and let him take his punishment unheard and unseen is not known. He may have thought, too, that there would be so many men to spank that manual effort couldn’t keep up with the demand for spankings; and perhaps, too, he was thinking of the women who slug their husbands, and who would, of course, come under the spanking law.

Paddling a la Brockway, though, is the thing if reformers in this line want to cure – or kill – the wife-beaters. The position of paddler should, of course, go to Brockway. Any wife-beater who passed through Brockway’s paddleorium alive would be such a wreck thereafter that a woman could knock him out with a feather duster.
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There was much written since the publication in 1898 of the prison spanking chair. I know it is hard for some to access this link but Peter Moskos Defense of Flogging 2011 speaks of the girls lifting their butts to avoid the spanking from the machine. It is clear that both the spanking horse and spanking chair were on display but as of June 1899 it was not patented and may well have indeed been a hoax. Warden Hoyt seemed only too willing to try it out on girls.

In Defense of Flogging Peter Moskos

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Spanking machines horse and chair displayed but not patented in Colorado.

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Oct 31, 2011#34
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Proceedings of the Annual Congress of the National Prison Association of the United States, held at Hartford, Connecticut, September 23-27, 1899.

A paper on “Punishment of Prisoners” by Warden Clarence Hoyt, Warden of the State Prison of Colorado, was read in his absence by Mr. C. L. Stonaker of Colorado.

THE PUNISHMENT OF PRISONERS
BY C. P. HOYT.

Pages 71 – 81

Excerpt page 73:

I also believe that every prison manager has some method of bringing refractory prisoners to terms, which takes the place of corporal punishment; but I desire to state that I have not invented, do not use, and do not manufacture the “electrical spanking chair.” That story got abroad in the following manner:

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Dec 04, 2011#35
An early spanking machine by Professor Duff Andrew Abrams. One hundred years ago his spanking machine intended for use with his children got him in trouble. He survived and later became an expert on cement.

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Spanking made easy. Fourth column and second story down. Making a raft out of the extra leaves of a dining room table. 10 volt zap with the rubber slipper. Early matrix.

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Jan 22, 2012#36
Scroll half way down on the right under text portion. he genius for mischief the average boy is the match of any inventor.

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Dorothy Dix: February 11, 1929 Bolshevik Child

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Dorothy Dix: Penultimate entry. November 28, 1959 Does Corporal Punishment Aid Marriage? But how can a little a little wife who only weighs nine-six pounds spank a husband who is a six-footer and weighs 236 pounds?

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Jan 30, 2012#37
1907 Machine invented by C. E. Gregory. Do you need to kick yourself? Primarily used as a boot for by fraternal organizations initiation or to replace a goat. Secondarily used as a slipper to save a busy housewife.

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Feb 11, 2012#38
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
One of the largest subscriptions in March 1926 would be Popular Science. The fact that it was on exhibit in New York City attests, along with many Google searches, that the 1920’s so much was written about it. It is a reasonable surmise that it was used. Electrical Spanking Machine the Dream of a Generation.

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Feb 11, 2012#39
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
A decade before an electric spanking machine was used for a therapeutic means of dealing with nervousness Popular Science reported this useful invention. It is good to see technology used for something other than disciplinary purposes. It’s the difference between a reactor and a bomb but don’t tell Iran.

A handful of free access newspapers picked up on this story. When all digital becomes pay-per-view it will be a sad day for researchers on a budget.

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Feb 25, 2012#40
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
One of the earlier school corporal punishment devices reported on Paperspast but not elsewhere. A spanking machine with five smacks a second. Ouch. No wonder they would want the return of the old-fashioned cane.

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Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
The Bleak Old Shop Of Stuff. Series 1 Episode 2.

Scene Begins at 19 minutes in situ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CulZ6_DylLw

Scene snippet.

http://youtu.be/-XZlApFqQEI

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Mar 02, 2012#42
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Thanks American Way.

According to Wikipedia:

The Bleak Old Shop of Stuff is a four-part BBC comedy series, which premiered on BBC Two on 19 December 2011. It is a parody of the works of Charles Dickens, drawing its title from “Bleak House” and “The Old Curiosity Shop”. It is a television successor to “Bleak Expectations”, a radio parody of Dickens which ran from 2007 to 2011 and with which it shares the writer Mark Evans, producer Gareth Edwards and actor Richard Johnson, and while not a direct adaptation it shares the same style, atmosphere and sense of humour. It is directed by Ben Gosling Fuller, who also directed the successful show “That Mitchell and Webb Look”.
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One of the largest subscriptions in March 1926 would be Popular Science. The fact that it was on exhibit in New York City attests, along with many Google searches, that the 1920’s so much was written about it. It is a reasonable surmise that it was used. Electrical Spanking Machine the Dream of a Generation.

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Bridgeton New Jersey. This New Jersey spanking machine was mentioned before but this graphic and followup may be of interests to some. I always like graphics in newspaper accounts. A picture tell a thousand words. Top right hand corner first link.

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Spanking Machine Reformed a Village. It started in 1913.

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Revived 1928.

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1945 was last serious mention I have found so far. Ontario Attorney General – but not implemented.

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Apr 06, 2012#44
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
The above posting first link would make a good entry for Colin. He does make mention of that spanking machine but this newspaper graphic may make it worthy of inclusion. He probably won’t put it in. We will see.

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Apr 30, 2012#45
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
The amount of inches in the newspapers devoted to spanking machines in history attests IMHO to the imagination of both writers and readers. Minnesota is a relatively small state and seems to have a disproportionate amount of stories about these machines. The correctional facility in Red Wing, MN may have had something to do without.

There is nothing more delightful to see the world through the eyes of children. A girl looks to the future of spanking machines and the boy to picnics on the moons in 1904. Remarkably prescient if I must say so.

HE SPANKER’LL GET YOU. It’s found just above image.

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PICNIC ON THE MOON.

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Apr 30, 2012#46
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
American Way noted the following item, transcibed here for convenience.

The newspaper requested children to write a story about “Tragon” who could, apparently, be almost anything or anyone. Doubtless, Hattie had seen mention or heard mention of such machines which seem to have been popular at that time.

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/ … -1/seq-32/
The Minneapolis Journal. December 03, 1904, The Journal Junior, Page 6.

HE SPANKER’LL GET YOU [= His spanker will get you ?]
(Honorable Mention.)

The citizens of Minneapolis were wondering how they could train their sons and daughters to be noble and good. But before long this question was solved. A citizen of Minneapolis, and a thoughtful one, invented a spanking machine which the people will rejoice over before long. Tragon is the man who invented the spanking machine. It is a great saving of time and labor. The girls and boys who were always getting themselves into trouble are now more careful, because there is one in our school today. People in time to come will wonder how we got along without a spanking machine. I hope all the boys who are in the habit of getting spanked will be grown up by the time the spanking machines are in use, for if not they will get double the number of spankings. Luckily for us girls, we are not always looking for trouble. Next century perhaps we will be collecting money for a spanking machine fund instead of piano and picture fund.

A Fifth Grade, Hattie Berquest,
Adams School. 912 Fourteenth Avenue S.
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Aug 09, 2012#47
One of the largest subscriptions in March 1926 would be Popular Science. The fact that it was on exhibit in New York City attests, along with many Google searches, that the 1920’s so much was written about it. It is a reasonable surmise that it was used. Electrical Spanking Machine the Dream of a Generation.

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Spanking Machine 1914

Spanker:

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Invisible Paddle Machine:

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Lifting and Spanking Machine:

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Fraternal lodge Spanking Machine from 1914.

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Aug 14, 2012#48
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Army 1944 Spanking Machine.

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Sep 12, 2012#49
Hi American Way. I was of course only joking about your links. This was an interesting one. I agree that it was probably a hoax, though the New York Times article is a little difficult to explain.

If the reference in your post indicates that at one stage you had a copy of the book concerned, I feel it imperative to give you advice I regularly dispense:

By all means lend your car, your money, even your wife or husband, but never ever lend books!
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January 21, 2009 was near in time of one of my earliest posts in this estimable Forum.

1889 spanking machine was one of its earliest mentions.

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When a young man reaches the age of 30 or thereabouts and has not confidentially told Betsey Ann he adores her, and tries to capture her for keeps, he ought indeed be pushed head first through a spanking machine, with the spanker decorated with hob-nails and driven by hydraulic pressure, with the distinct understanding if he does not mend his ways and do the right thing, the dose will be largely repeated at regular intervals until he does.

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Sep 20, 2012#50
One of the largest subscriptions in March 1926 would be Popular Science. The fact that it was on exhibit in New York City attests, along with many Google searches, that the 1920’s so much was written about it. It is a reasonable surmise that it was used. Electrical Spanking Machine the Dream of a Generation.

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Colorado Spanking Machine.

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You will find one of my first posts on this estimable Forum in this thread. I am a relatively newcomer and a very grateful one.

Rockefellers and the Murphys. Bring the box over to the yellow portion on upper right corner and you can read the relevant portion.

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Early Electric Chair. Old Sparky.

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This merciless murderess gets her just desserts for her heinous offense. Imagine killing her own husband. What an ungrateful hussy. Don’t expect pity from me.

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One of my earliest post with this estimable Forum is found in this thread. I am very grateful to have joined this Happy Family as a relative newcomer.

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Sep 20, 2012#51
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi American Way,

I may well be a lone voice on this issue but nonetheless I have to say that I don’t think items on the death penalty are appropriate in this Forum. Though it would be with great sadness, if you’re going to post on that topic then I shall have to stop reading your contributions.

The death penalty is, and always has been, an abomination in any society claiming to be civilised.</div>
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Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Another_Lurker, you just got in before me!

Sorry, American Way I’d prefer you to stay with the topic of school corporal punishment, though I have no objection to some of the off-topic humorous items you find. Capital punishment is totally repugnant to me.
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Sep 20, 2012#53
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Relevance? Coincidence? Correlations are a source of speculation for some. After 2002 the landscape has significantly shifted.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/states- … th-penalty

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0934191.html

The gruesome practice of execution was an inheritance from the other side of the pond. It certainly did not mirror the noble traditions of our Native Americans or let us say the American Way.

I have posted about capital punishment for the very first time. I did not anticipate the response. With due deference to two fellow Forumites that I hold dear as well as in high esteem I will refrain from doing so.

I often think an eye for an eye heritage but I found absolutely fascinating that the first person executed after a long hiatus was a citizen of Utah entitled to be shot for it is blood for blood in the Mormon law of blood atonement. That form of execution was recently carried out. I won’t share my fascinations anymore.

http://www.sltrib.com/faith/ci_15126927

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Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Good Morning American Way,

I’m most grateful to you. Thank you.
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Oct 31, 2012#55
One of the largest subscriptions in March 1926 would be Popular Science. The fact that it was on exhibit in New York City attests, along with many Google searches, that the 1920’s so much was written about it. It is a reasonable surmise that it was used. Electrical Spanking Machine the Dream of a Generation.

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Spanking Machine was used in school corporal punishment. Note that the blade was in the form of a paddle and there was a spare that as well.

Tipton, Iowa is not all that far from Bristow, Iowa where the six girls were spanked by a male teacher who got a pay raise for his troubles. I don’t think he had that option because he spanked the girls in 1907 prior to the advent of the invention in 1914.

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This hearkens back to the spanking machine found among the Masons (active in Tipton Iowa).

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Things have changed 2011 as shown earlier.

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Mar 16, 2013#56
One of the largest subscriptions in March 1926 would be Popular Science. The fact that it was on exhibit in New York City attests, along with many Google searches, that the 1920’s so much was written about it. It is a reasonable surmise that it was used. Electrical Spanking Machine the Dream of a Generation.

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Little Giant Duplex Spanker.

Magistrate Charles Solomon. Wise spanker.

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He is a great believer in corporal punishment.

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On a lighter note Magistrate Solomon made the news.

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Mar 20, 2013#57
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Examination Day at School by Joseph Hart 1900. The spanking machine in a play.

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Vaudeville Spanking Machine. The Ideal Spanker.

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Mar 23, 2013#58
Proceedings of the Annual Congress of the National Prison Association of the United States, held at Hartford, Connecticut, September 23-27, 1899.

A paper on “Punishment of Prisoners” by Warden Clarence Hoyt, Warden of the State Prison of Colorado, was read in his absence by Mr. C. L. Stonaker of Colorado.

THE PUNISHMENT OF PRISONERS
BY C. P. HOYT.

Pages 71 – 81

Excerpt page 73:

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Source: http://hdl.handle.net/2027/uc1.b2952938 … =%3Bseq=79
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Source
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Mar 23, 2013#59
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Spanking Machine for the Young. I have some entries that are more fitting for CP Light Side. The spanking machine brought forth a lot of humor.

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Mar 23, 2013#60
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Spanking Machine. Piano or forte. Fast or slow. Bottom of Third Column. 1903

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Mar 25, 2013#61
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Popular Mechanics like Popular Science were highly popular magazines.

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Mar 25, 2013#62
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
A spanking Machine on an American Postcard. Postmarked 1908 from Iowa… The Mothers kitchen help and “Ready Reckoner”

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Mar 25, 2013#63
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
And here’s my other one: A French card postmarked 1951, Nice, France, with Englich subtitles. It looks like the dog is crying more than the boy. There’s oo question that technology has advanced since the 1908 Americna kitchen model!

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Mar 28, 2013#64
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
A woman invents a spanking machine to punish wife beaters. How sweet is that? March 1905.

Fourth Column Penultimate Article.

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Apr 01, 2013#65
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Girl Flogging in England. Papers Past, last two links is nothing new to readers here.

Clearly, Mrs Walter Smith is fiction. It’s amazing that she has to resort to a machine when she herself is sent these unruly girls as creatively constructed by the cover to sell the book` in the first link. It’s contracting and sub-contracting. I would never use a machine. I’m a hands on kind of guy.

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English people are proverbially more stern and severe in the management of children.. Birch in the boudoir is a common thing, and is invariably applied to that part of the body which is associated in the United States with the term “spanking”. And what part of the body would that be?

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Apr 25, 2013#66
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Red Wing Minnesota Training School Spanking Machine was not electrical as often depicted in 1903.

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He subsequently used a barrel instead of a long bench by 1911.

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This image helps to demonstrate the point. The nickname paint room gives a very grim description.

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History of the school. Excerpt.

It apparently didn’t take Panzram long to run afoul of the authorities at Red Wing, and to the end of his life he retained and regularly recounted graphic details of the punishment he received in the school’s paint shop, which was where the harshest discipline was supposedly administered. “They used to have a large wooden block which we were bent over and tied face downward after first being stripped naked,” Panzram recounted.

“Then a large towel was soaked in salt water and spread on our backs from the shoulders to the knees. Then the man who was to do the whipping took a large strap about a quarter of an inch thick by four inches and about two feet long. The strap had a lot of little round holes punched through it. Every time that whip came down on our body the skin would come up through these little holes in the strap and after 25 or 30 times of this, little blisters would form and then would burst, and right there and then hell began….I used to get this racket regularly, and when I was too ill to be given this sort of medicine, they used to take a smaller strap and beat me on the palms of my hands.”

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Apr 25, 2013#67
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Hi American Way ,

Red wing was certainly one of the most controversial institutions in penal history. The authorities have continued to provide a sanitized version of the regime there, but those with a knowledge of criminology will be aware of the numerous and conflicting ex inmate accounts.

The Dylan song was written in 1963, and I copy perhaps the earliest recording of a performance below. . Despite the continued protestations of the authorities, Dylan never suggested he had been incarcerated there, but he wrote it on the back of accounts from three ex inmates whom he met apparently at a prison reform meeting. The tune is of course ‘the road and miles to Dundee’ and he picked this up apparently from Martyn Carthy.

Today the prison has a different purpose, has been largely rebuilt and has a progressive regime , under a female governor. the details are at

http://www.doc.state.mn.us/facilities/redwing.htm

The channges strated from 1998 ,and you can by following the links take a virtual tour.
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Jul 01, 2013#68
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Harvey Miller’s Spanking Machine.

The Pittsburgh Press – Oct 20, 1903

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Mother’s Little Helper.

http://youtu.be/7ETX7i_adnw

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Aug 07, 2013#69
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Corpun has a collection of images of spanking machines. I’m not too sure if these are found among them.

Lazy Teacher. Classroom spanking?

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John Willie. Rubbidibub Patent Reducer. I can read bits and pieces but can someone give me a better idea how it reads. Is the idea that the machine will help her fit into a rubber outfit?

Disturbing and provocative. Next link – Bottom Image.

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FYI about John Alexander Scott Coutts aka John Willie.

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Aug 07, 2013#70
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi American Way,

If you EVER complain about a a degree of déshabillé in anyone else’s images or links again the Network54 servers will be swamped with traffic reminding you of your above contribution!

But as you are my very greatly esteemed fellow contributor I will attempt to answer your query.

You say:

If that was the lady’s objective in taking exercise, then yes. The Rubbididub Patent Reducer is what might be termed a Motivational Exercise Machine. The motivation is that if the user stops exercising though disinclination, exhaustion or whatever the result is quite unpleasant!

It is essentially an exercise bicycle linked to a whipping machine. The exerciser is secured on the machine to exercise under supervision, but if they need to be left unattended the whipping machine is switched on. It does not come into operation unless the work rate on the exercise bicycle falls below a pre-set level measured by a governor. The governor controls a relay switch in the electrical supply circuit to the whipping machine.

Provided the required work rate is maintained the relay is held open, but if the work rate on the cycle device falls below the required level the relay closes and the whipping machine starts up. A rotary device spins whips (or in one version thin canes) set at various angles so that they strike the exerciser’s buttocks and thighs. If exercise at the required level is resumed the governor opens the relay, cutting off the electrical supply to the whipping machine and the chastisement ceases.

I really can’t understand why some enterprising company hasn’t built a version of this, I’m sure it would be a big seller!

The above account of the mechanism has been culled from various blogs which have snippets of information. Frustratingly there is an image on the web here which is completely legible when magnified. Sadly though, half of it is missing. </div>
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Aug 07, 2013#71
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
A_L I don’t know whether I should be more grateful for your tolerance or your complicity. How many winks-winks-winks? Gazillions!!! American Way

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Aug 07, 2013#72
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Color (American Way) of Knickers July 18, 2011.

Need I remind the members of this estimable Forum? How sensitive and sensible of me to address this very issue?

In light of this being a family forum maybe it should be forbidden? I was squeamish about showing the iconic slide rule National Lampoon cover.

I have the image reposted here in a larger size. I also posted it already in motion. Not a bad idea to incorporate with the nuns in a milestone posting A_L. You did ask me for suggestions. And I am long overdue in answering it. Thanks for all you do for me and everyone.

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Aug 07, 2013#73
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi American Way,

Thank you for your kind words.

I still say that’s an absolutely dreadful thing to do to a beautiful instrument like a slide rule! </div>
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Aug 07, 2013#74
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
It could have been worse you know? She could have been running a temperature. But let’s not go there. Oops I just did.

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Aug 29, 2013#75
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
One of the earliest mentions of a spanking machine (pre-invented) for schools is found in this news story. I haven’t found any earlier but I’m sure there must be. It comes from a very unlikely source. It is a funny one so maybe someone would like to print it out for our estimable Forum.

PENTWATER NEWS, OCEANA CO. MICHIGAN AUGUST 7, 1874

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Aug 29, 2013#76
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Source: http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=kU … 33,3068913

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Oct 30, 2013#77
<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi American Way,

The death penalty is, and always has been, an abomination in any society claiming to be civilised.</div>
Huntington West Virginia is a rather insular community where generation from generation share memories. For a person born in 1900 sharing their personal encounter with this spanking with their children would not be beyond the realm of possibility. It would be nice to have a confirmed use to dispel the notion that it is just a resilient myth.

I know this machine is nothing new to the estimable Forum but the part about the Lady Engineer is news to me.

Also, it should be noted that reporters from various parts of the country took a keen interests by jokes. Embellishments were not out of the question. The earlier the date and the closer proximity are more likely to be true for they can be easily verified or proven to be false

Electric Spanker makes boys behave. October 2013

The Promoter of the Spanking Machine and his alma mater. Superintendent Wilson M Foulk.

http://archives.dickinson.edu/node/7314/zoomify

Story.

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Lady Engineer with her own electric supply plant for the electric spanker. Feb 11, 1914

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Oct 30, 2013#78
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Really, American Way !

I must protest. I do protest. Fancy posting links to unsafe machinery. No guards on the moving parts!

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Nov 01, 2013#79
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
This topic became the subject of so much humor.

A Labor Saving Invention. 1874.

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/ … /seq-4.pdf
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Nov 01, 2013#80
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Thank you KK for putting this printed online under the Lighter Side.

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Nov 19, 2013#81
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Scold the girls. Spank the boys.

Coles Electro-micro Scolding Machine For Scolding Naughty Girls

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Snook’s Patent Whipping Machine for Flogging Naughty Boys in School

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Nov 22, 2013#82
Cole’s Funny Picture Book No. 1
Written And Compiled By E.W. Cole (1832-1918)
First Published 1879 By Cole Publications, Melbourne, Australia

Page 34-Naughty Boys

Mr. Brown, the grocer, having nearly emptied a cask of sugar in front of his shop, a number of naughty boys, seeing his back turned, commenced to steal some. Mr. Brown, spying them through the window, came out, and the reader can see what happened – A bystander informs us that muttered howls of agony arose from the cask, and all the boys’ interest in sugar was at an end.

This story may well be based on a real event.

Before modern supermarkets and packaged foods many foods were received in bulk and dispensed by grocers to individual customer requirements. There were few ready-made sweets and treats for children in those days.

Note the glee of the bystanders.
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Nov 22, 2013#83
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Boys are flogged
Testimonial from a Schoolmaster
(To Mr. Cole, Book Arcade, Melbourne)
SIRYour Patent Flogger is a “keen” Success as a labor-saving machine; ‘Twill yet be held in great esteem, Already ’tis the Poet’s theme; It’s the greatest patent that’s ever been In or out of a schoolroom seen; And as you have got it to go by steam, School-life will now be all serene.
I have not had a bad boy remaining now, but before I used your machine they used to be a frightful lot of young scamps. For instance, in my school of 1000, the first day the machine was introduced, 741 were punished for various misdeeds, and 103 for single offences, were flogged as follows:
John Hawking, for talking
William Winning, for grinning
George Highing, for crying
Edward Daring, for swearing
Henry Wheeling, for stealing
Peter Bitting, for spitting
Robert Hocking, for smoking
Frederick Mention, for inattention
Joseph Footing, for pea-shooting
Luke Jones, for throwing stones
Matthew Sauter, for squirting water
Nicholas Storms, for upsetting forms
Reuben Wrens, for spoiling pens
Samuel Jinks, for spilling ink
Simon McLeod, for laughing aloud
Timothy Stacies, for making faces
Victor Bloomers, for taking lunars
Vincent James, for calling names
Caleb Hales, for telling tales
Daniel Padley, for writing badly
David Jessons, for cribbing lessons
Edmond Gate, for coming late
Ezra Lopen, for leaving the door open
Edwin Druent, for playing the truant
Charles Case, for leaving his place
Ernest Jewell, for eating during school
Coo Ah Hi, for using a shanghai
Francis Berindo, for breaking a window
Harold Tate, for breaking his slate
Isaac Joys, for making noise
Jacob Crook, for tearing his book
Christopher Moyes, for teasing other boys
Elisha Sewell, for bolting from school
Conrad Draper, for throwing chewed paper
Ebenezer Good, for telling a falsehood
Felix Snooks, for coming without books
Cyril Froude, for speaking too loud
Elijah Rowe, for speaking too low
Gregory Meek, for refusing to speak
Hannibal Hartz, for throwing paper darts
Horace Poole, for whistling in school
Hubert Shore, for slamming the door
Jesse Blane, for hiding the cane
Jonah Platts, for hiding boys’ hats
Aaron Esk, for cutting the desk
Abner Rule, for sleeping in school
Adam Street, for changing his seat
Albert Mayne, for splitting the teacher’s cane
Alexander Tressons, for reading during other lessons
Alfred Hoole, for eating lollies in school
Ambrose Hooke, for blotting his copy-book
Amos Blair, for not combing his hair
Andrew Grace, for not washing his face
Anthony Sands, for not washing his hands
Arnold Cootz, for coming in with dirty boots
Benjamin Guess, for coming with untidy dress
Clarence Hyneman, for annoying a stray Chinaman
Michael McToole, for bringing stones to school
Cuthbert Flindow, for climbing through the window
Edgar Gasking, for going without asking
Eric Grout, for kicking boys’ hats about
Enoch McKay, for pinching the next boy
Gabriel Cook, for tearing a boy’s book
Hyram Pope, for pulling the bell rope
Humphrey Proof, for getting on the roof
Jonah Earls, for chasing school-girls
Jonathan Spence, for climbing over the fence
Phillip Cannister, for sliding down the bannister
Lambert Hesk, for sliding on a desk
Lawrence Storm, for standing on a form
Lazarus Beet, for stamping with his feet
Leopold Bate, for swinging on the gate
Lewis Lesks, for kicking legs of desks
Mark Vine, for overstepping the toe-line
Nathan Corder, for not marching in order
Norman Hall, for scribbling on the wall
James Mace, for hitting a boy in the face
Thomas Sayers, for pushing boys down the stairs
Oswald Hook, for losing a school-book
Ralph Chesson, for not knowing his lesson
Sampson Skinner, for eating another boy’s dinner
Solomon Brook, for scribbling in his book
Stephen Platt, for chasing the master’s cat
Neal M’Kimney, dropping a brick down the chimney
Theodore Le Soof, for throwing stones on the roof
Valentine Rapp, for turning on the water-tap
Walter Hope, for climbing up the bell-rope
Joshua Gail, for catching flies on the wall
Raymond Esk, for sticking pins in the desk
Julian State, for drawing pictures on his slate
Gerald Astor, for being impudent to the master
Augustus Roff, for not taking his hat off
Rupert Keats, for fixing pens in boys’ seats
Maurice Took, for having a dirty copybook
Esau Klaster, for drawing caricatures of the master
Paul Bhool, for letting a bird loose in school
Jabez Breeding, for not knowing the place at reading
Levi Stout, for stopping too long when let out
Guy M’Gill, sharpening a knife on the window-sill
Duncan Heather, pinning two boys’ coat-tails together
Ezekiel Black, pinning paper on another boy’s back
Patrick O’Toole, for bursting a paper-bag in school
Eli Teet, for putting cobbler’s wax on master’s seat
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Nov 22, 2013#84
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Coles Electro-micro Scolding Machine For Scolding Naughty Girls

Cole’s Electro-micro Scolding Machine is a combination of three instruments, the Phonograph, the Microphone, and the Wonderphone.

The Phonograph is an instrument that will preserve words for any length of time. Any person can speak, sing, whistle, or scold into a Phonograph, and months or years afterwards by simply turning a handle the same sounds can be reproduced a dozen, a hundred, or a thousand times in the exact voice of the person who spoke them in; so that if a man or a woman, who is a great scold, speak some good, loud, severe scolding into a Phonograph, the mildest teacher can then scold her pupils, or the kindest mother her children, just by turning the handle.

The Microphone is an instrument that magnifies sound in the same way as a microscope magnifies objects; a very powerful microphone magnifies the sound of a fly walking into a loud tramping footstep, the tick of a watch into a deafening clatter, and a whisper into a loud shout. Take a Microphone, then properly affix it to the Phonograph described above, and you have a good Scolding Machine; turn the handle, and as the Phonograph gives out the scoldings, the microphone part magnifies them so loudly that they are heard for a considerable distance.

The Wonderphone (Cole’s own secret) is another remarkable instrument; it will cause sound to travel very distinctly, but frightfully and equally loud, for forty miles in all directions; by attaching this powerful instrument to the combination of the other two, Cole’s Electro-micro Scolding Machine is formedand which is the first Scolding Machine ever invented. If the machine is already charged by having had some scolding spoken, or even whispered into it, give the handle a turn, and forty miles to the east, forty miles to the west, forty to the north, forty to the south, forty up in the sky, and down in the mines forty miles deep, in fact forty miles in every direction, everybody can clearly hear every word being said to the girl being scolded.

Suppose for instance, Hannah Maria Smith had done something wrong in school, the schoolmistress could give the handle of the machine a turn, and it would scold her so loudly that her mother, and father, and brothers, and sisters, and uncles, and aunts, and friends, and those she didn’t like would all hear her scolded. The machine can be charged on the instant by anyone scolding into it. In fact the whole value of Cole’s Scolding Machine lies in its power to repeat out exceedingly loud whatever is spoken into it.

If the schoolmistress chooses she can put the scolding into verse, so that all who hear it in the forty miles around, can more easily remember it. The machine that I have before me now, was charged this morning for an aristocratic school and speaks as follows:Silence!! Attention!!!

Ada Alice Arabella Angelina Andal,
Why do you talk for ever, such a tittle-tattling scandal?

Betsy Bertha Bridget Belinda Bowing,
Will you be quiet and go on with your sewing?

Cora Caroline Christina Clarinda Clare,
Now do look in the glass at your untidy hair.

Dorah Dinah Dorothy Dorinda Dresson,
You really must get on with your short drawing lesson.

Edith Ellen Evelina Elizabeth Eadle,
This makes this day your nineteenth broken needle.

Fanny Florence Frederica Florinda Flynn,
How cruel of you to prick Jane with a pin.

Grace Gertrude Genevieve Georgina Grimble,
You careless girl to lose your silver thimble.

Hilda Hanna Harriet Henrietta Hawker,
You really are a most inveterate talker.

Ida Izod Irene Isabella Inching,
You spitefulstop that scratching and pinching.

Jane Julia Josephine Jemima Jesson,
Sit down at once and learn your music lesson.

Kate Kester Katrina Kathleen Kent,
You’re vulgar, saucy, rude and insolent.

Lizzie Letitia Lucretia Lorinda Loeries,
You’re the champion of the world for telling stories.

Maud Mary Martha Matilda Moyes,
Sends letters to, and flirts with, naughty boys.

Nancy Nelly Ninette Naomi Nations,
Shame of you to talk ‘gainst other girls’ relations.

Olive Osberta Orphelia Octavia O’Dyke,
Your conduct is outrageous and unladylike.

Polly Patience Prudence Paulina Pitt,
You really are our champion tell-tale-tit.

Quilla Quintina Quinburga Quendrida Quirk,
How very, very, dirty you have made your fancy-work.

Rose Ruth Rachel Rebecca Ritting,
Now stop that crying and get on with your knitting.

Sarah Sophia Selina Susannah Stacies,
Don’t spoil your face by making those grimaces.

Tilda Theresa Tabitha Theodora Tapping,
You’d gain the prize if one was given for slapping.

Una Ursula Urica Urania Urls,
You’d gain the prize for teasing little girls.

Venus Violet Victoria Veronica Vo-shi,
Just learn your task and put away that crochet.

Wilmett Walberg Winefride Wilhelmina Wriggling,
Now once for all do stop that stupid giggling.

Xenodice Xanthippe Xanthisa Xenophona X-cess,
You think and talk of nothing else but dress! dress!

Yana Yulga Yapeena Yestina Young,
Will you behave yourself and just draw in your tongue.

And lastly and worst of all, you,

Zoe Zora Zillah Zenobia Zeen,
How dare you! how dare you!! yes, how dare you!!!
Sneer at the boy’s new whipping Machine.peat out exceedingly loud whatever is spoken into it.
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Nov 22, 2013#85
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Cole has provided a long list of crimes. Anyone care to rate them for seriousness and assign a punishment for each?
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Nov 22, 2013#86
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
This lists was priorly posted.

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Nov 23, 2013#87
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hello American Way,

You said above with regard to recent postings by yourself and KK taken from the works of E W Cole, a bookshop owner in Melbourne, Australia some 100 or so years ago:

Indeed so, by Doctor Dominum, and perhaps two other posts by Doctor Dominum should have been linked in your above contribution:

August 15 2010 at 2:53 AM

August 15 2010 at 2:54 AM

The three posts by Doctor Dominum back in 2010 seem to encompass everything from Mr Cole’s works recently reposted in this thread. However, unlike some of us, I never recall Doctor Dominum indulging in complaint or criticism of a petty nature about those with whom he shared the Forum, and I shall proceed to presume on his good nature by reposting yet more of his 2010 posts in my response to KK below.</div>
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Nov 23, 2013#88
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hello KK,

You said above:

Indeed he has, if I calculate correctly a total of 103 crimes for boys and 25 crimes for girls, as quoted above by yourself and American Way respectively.

Some of the crimes in the two lists overlap, as one might expect, and within the individual lists some crimes are so similar as to not be distinguishable one from another. Nonetheless I think there are probably over 100 crimes which could be identified for the purpose of the matrix.

Mr Cole has also provided a list of punishments. It was originally quoted by Doctor Dominum here and I trust that he will not object to my reposting it:

<div style=”padding-left:40px;padding-right:40px;font-style:italic;color:#0000ff;”>I then wrote to twenty-seven of the principal headmasters in the world, and the following are the replies:

From the High School of Eton wrote head-master, Mr. Squeers:
“If they don’t behave as they should do, why, soundly box their ears.”
From the Grammar School of Harrow wrote head-master, Mr. Phfool:
“If they do not behave themselves, expel them from the school.”
From the Training School of Rugby wrote head-master, Mr Wist:
“Just take a handful of their hair, and give a sharp, short twist.”
From the College School of Oxford wrote Professor Rarey Hook:
“Instead of nearly killing, overawe them with a look.”
From the Bible School of Cambridge wrote Professor William Brying:
“Well whip them with a birchen rod, and never mind their crying.”
From the Blue Coat School of London wrote Professor Rupert Gower:
“At arm’s length make them hold a book the space of half-an-hour.”
From the Naval School of Liverpool wrote head-master Mr. Jointer:
“Just rap them on the knuckles with a common teacher’s pointer.”
From the People’s School of Manchester wrote head-master Mr. Flowers:
“Make them kneel down as still as death for just about two hours.”
From the Infant School of Birmingham wrote Professor Dory Heller:
“Just put on them a fool’s cap, marked ‘dunce,’ ‘thief,’ or ‘story-teller’.”
From the Charity school of Sheffield wrote head-master, Mr. Clay:
“If the boys are disobedient, do not let them out to play.”
From the Gentleman’s School at Brighton wrote Professor Robert Flask:
“If the boys will act unruly, why, just make them do a task.”
From the National School of Bristol wrote Professor Mark Groom:
“If the boys are extra naughty, shut them in a dark room.”
From the District School of Edinburgh wrote head-master, Mr. Glass:
“The naughty boys should all be sent to the bottom of the class.”
From the Mixed School of Glasgow wrote Professor Duncan Law:
“To keep a proper kind of school, just use the three-tailed taw.”
From the Latin School of Dublin wrote Professor Patrick Clayrence:
“If the boys are very bad boys, write a letter to their parents.”
From the Mission School, Calcutta, wrote the Rev. Mr. Mac Look:
“Try them by a boy jury, write the verdict in a black-book.”
From the Lyceum of New York wrote Professor Henry Bothing:
“Take your delinquent boys one hour and make them sit on nothing.”
From the Public School, Chicago, wrote head-master, Mr. Norrids:
“If they will not behave themselves, why, just you slap their foreheads.”
From, the Academy of San Francisco wrote head-master, Mr. Power:
“Make them stoop and hold their fingers on the floor for just an hour.”
From the Mormon School of Utah wrote Professor Orson Pratt:
“First strip and make them fast, and then just use the little cat.”
From the King’s College, Lisbon, wrote Professor Don Cassiers:
“If you want to make them good boys, pull, pinch, and twist their ears.”
From the Cadet’s School of Paris wrote Professor Monsieur Sour:
“Just make them hold their hands above their heads for one full hour.”
From the Royal School of Amsterdam wrote Professor Vander Tooler:
“If they will not behave themselves, just trounce them with a ruler.”
From the Model School of Pekin wrote Professor Cha Han Coo:
“Just put their hands into the stocks and beat with a bamboo.”
From the Normal School of Moscow wrote Professor Ivan Troute:
“To make your boys the best of boys, why, just use the knout.”
From the Muslim School of Cairo wrote the Mufti, Pasha Saido:
“Upon the bare soles of their feet give them the bastinado.”
From the Common School of Berlin wrote Professor Von de Rind:
“There’s nothing like the old, old way that ever could I find;
Just lay them right across your knee and cane them well behind.
I’ve only just been speaking mit mine goot frien’, Doctor Whistim,
And he says that it does no harm, but is felt throughout the system.”</div>
Now clearly Mr Cole intended that the above punishments would only be applicable to boys, and believed that girls could be corrected by merely being addressed by his ‘scolding machine’. Further, he seems to have believed that the crimes committed by girls were generally of a different nature, and rather less violent than those committed by boys. In this enlightened age we know better of course, and if we don’t we may be in trouble with one of my most esteemed fellow contributors!

Thus in the matrix I believe that we should not distinguish between the sexes as regards crimes, other than to adjust where necessary. So for instance the crime committed by young Maud Mary Martha Matilda Moyes, sending letters to, and flirting with, naughty boys, would become sending letters to, and flirting with, naughty children of the opposite sex, and similarly for
the sins of young Jonah Earls.

Further, we should not distinguish the sexes as regards punishments. One crime, one punishment. Equality and democracy all rolled into one! I have examined the list of punishments carefully, and I believe that they, or something very similar, are all used currently, or have been in very recent use, in school regimes which have been discussed here, with the exception of:
From the Bible School of Cambridge wrote Professor William Brying:
“Well whip them with a birchen rod, and never mind their crying.”

While the birch undoubtedly had its merits in the scholastic environment, the requirement that the pupil be at least partially disrobed seems to have ended it everywhere, and I do not recall any recent usage being mentioned. I am happy to be corrected though!

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From the Normal School of Moscow wrote Professor Ivan Troute:
“To make your boys the best of boys, why, just use the knout.”

No record of recent knout usage either that I can recall, and just as well too!

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From the Mormon School of Utah wrote Professor Orson Pratt:
“First strip and make them fast, and then just use the little cat.”

Interesting customs, those Mormons, but today, probably not I think!

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From the Model School of Pekin wrote Professor Cha Han Coo:
“Just put their hands into the stocks and beat with a bamboo.”

Beating with a bamboo, well it happens, but a rattan would be better, see below. But those stocks? No, far too traumatic for today’s children I think!

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From the Common School of Berlin wrote Professor Von de Rind:
“There’s nothing like the old, old way that ever could I find;
Just lay them right across your knee and cane them well behind.
I’ve only just been speaking mit mine goot frien’, Doctor Whistim,
And he says that it does no harm, but is felt throughout the system.”

The cane yes, but across the knee? Very inefficient, and anyway such intimate contact between punisher and punished would not be appropriate today except perhaps with very young children dealt with by maternally minded lady teachers!</li>
That brings us down to 22 punishments. I suggest that we add conventional caning, on the clothed bottom naturally, on the hands is far too dangerous! We could also add the paddle and the slipper, target location likewise. That gives us a selection of 25 punishments to chose from.

All that remains is to resolve your query as to whether anyone would be willing to undertake the task of grading the crimes and awarding punishments (ideally from the list, though this was not of course part of your original specification). Sadly I suspect not, but I might get as far as trying to find examples of the 25 punishments in recent or current use. We’ll see! </div>
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Nov 23, 2013#89
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73

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Nov 23, 2013#90
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Hi Another_Lurker

I’m afraid I’ve been too busy with work recently to contribute to this estimable Forum.

I wonder who that might be.

It’s amusing to look back at the naivety of those such as Cole. It was one of the many disadvantages (or advantages depending on one’s aims) of any form of apartheid, be it racial sexual or otherwise. It helped keep the masses in a state of ignorance.

So would it be OK to send letters to and flirt with members of the same sex? It’s interesting how schools attempted to prevent normal heterosexual relationships but apparently did nothing to discourage homosexual ones. Perhaps they were more liberal and forward looking than we give them credit for.

That, as you know, is something with which I completely concur. The idea of punishing a child according to his or her sex, rather than the nature of the offence committed is and always was ridiculous. It was not only completely unfair, it made the child’s sex a more relevant factor than the offence committed.
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Nov 23, 2013#91
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hello Jenny,

You said above:

A great benefit to your business, but this estimable Forum’s considerable loss!

With regard to my initial proposed modification for the ‘crimes’ of Maud Mary Martha Matilda Moyes and Jonah Earls you commented:

You have of course unerringly zeroed in on the subject of my ‘Apology’ post above. Both ‘crimes’ would best be re-categorised as inappropriate behaviour with another pupil while in school. That should cover both heterosexual and homosexual behaviour outwith the curriculum! Indeed, I seem to recollect that round about 1971 someone here got six of the best for just such an offence under the first of those categories. Extra painful too, if I remember rightly, due to the fact that on that particular day they’d also stretched the school uniform regulations rather beyond the equivalent capabilities of the garment concerned. Can’t for the life of me think who it was though!

In response to my saying:

You said above:

Never let it be said that Another_Lurker is slow to learn from the right teacher!</div>
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Dec 01, 2013#92
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
In the not too distant future it will be my fifth anniversary posting in this estimable Forum. I’m still relatively new. KK and

Warden Hoyt means business but I wonder if he had something more in mind than reform or I’m I projecting? Shouldn’t a woman be delegated to such an onerous task if it would ever be employed.

The preamble from the link below reminded me of a 1925 spanking.

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Here is a story about that 1925 public spanking much later that was priorly posted that I have taken a shine to for its details and drawings.

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The warden favored this means for men. It was employed. One method involved the “Old Grey Mare” which was a sawhorse, onto which the prisoner was required to bend over and there he was spanked with a leather strap. The leather strap was embedded with brads and was soaked in water before striking the prisoner.

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Dec 01, 2013#93
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hello American Way,

You said above with reference to your second link:

Specially for you!

Save it now while stocks last! It’s actually slightly bigger than the display size shown.</div>
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Jan 03, 2014#94
Army 1944 Spanking Machine.

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1917 Bottom Left Corner Spanking Machine. Hits the theatrical world.

Behind the Map under Joker.

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1915 Bottom Right Hand Corner. Interesting premise.

More Deadly Than Male.

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Jan 04, 2014#95
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
There is a distinct correlation between the absence of car running boards and the gradual but remorseless decline of corporal punishment. There just ain’t room to spank a wilful flirt in the design of a modern car.
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Jan 05, 2014#96
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hello neilfrommanc,

Drat! At the back of my mind I knew that I’d missed something important off the specification list of my proposed new car, and you’ve just put your finger straight on the problem!

On a (slightly) more serious note, you may have missed the recent venture into schoolgirl CP fiction by my alter ego Brian ONC in this thread. I understand from your comments here in the past that you have some experience in this genre. In case contributions to this estimable Forum plummet again and he finds it incumbent upon him to honour his <s>threat</s> promise to produce a sequel I know that despite the somewhat belligerent closure to his literary effort Brian would actually very much appreciate any comments or criticisms you might be prepared to offer to assist him.</div>
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Mar 18, 2014#97
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
The Manifest Advantages of a Spanking Machine 1906. What amazes me is the amount of stories that emanated from a small city such as Peoria Illinois throughout the world. This Montreal account I found very amusing. Obviously such device caught the collective whimsy of many people. It’s found just to the right of Balzac’s View of Women.

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1900 – 56,100

1910 – 66,950.
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Mar 28, 2014#98
Spanking made easy. Fourth column and second story down. Making a raft out of the extra leaves of a dining room table. 10 volt zap with the rubber slipper. Early matrix.

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A follow up on Duff Andrew Abrams.

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The Spanking Professor and Inventor.

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Closer to the source you are likely to details.

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Edith must have been going through her terrible twos.

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Apr 21, 2014#99
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
It’s sad not to hear from prof n and without A_L exchanging posts with Renee, et. al. things have slowed down. Maybe some of my somewhat off topic posting might help to increase postings.

Red Wing MN Machinery for Flogging Machine.

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April 6, 2011. Red Wing MN Training School motion to abolish the whipping machine and the wet towel.

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May 4, 2011. Superintendent Frank A Whittier resists the governor.

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The Duluth Herald claimed it was a shameful political plot to force him to resign.

The famous “whipping machine,” which figured largely in the clamor, was destroyed several years ago and is no longer in use; yet there was no scandal about it while it was being used, with the full knowledge of the board of control.

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November 17, 1911. Whittier resigns. Whipping described before the machine in 1897.

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History account December 3, 2003.

The motto was ironic. The school’s motto was it is better to build boys than to mend men.

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The Walls of Red Wing 1963. Walls of Red Wing.

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Aug 14, 2014#100
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
There seemed to be a great interest stirred by Warden Hoyt’s spanking machine. I wonder if Dr Goldsmith (Jersey City Heights) ever got to use them on those girls 16 and 17 years or older? New Jersey hired an official spanker in Trenton, New Jersey around this time to spank girls. What is with those New Jersey girls?

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Aug 15, 2014#101
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
A follow up on the spanking for incorrigible girls.

The state of corrections : proceedings, ACA annual … 1899. The names of the letter writers such as Dr Goldstein are omitted.

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Aug 15, 2014#102
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Hoax or not a hoax? A revisit of an October 2010 issue. Spanking chair for girls? How true is the one in Beloit, Kansas? It would not be a joke for them. Poor dear derrieres

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Aug 15, 2014#103
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello American Way,

In the former Nottinghamshire coalfields we have an old saying:

I commend it to you!

I was going to do some interesting arithmetic on the details Warden Hoyt provides about the paddle used in the Colorado State Prison during his tenure there and Renee’s Middle School paddle, but alas tempus fugits on an urgent project deadline and I have no time.

BTW congratulations on a significant anniversary in this thread. I’d do you a picture of a delinquent young lady strapped into a spanking chair but sadly ………..</div>
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Aug 15, 2014#104
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Thanks for the congratulations. N.B. January 2009 was one of the earliest thread that I posted here.

Queer features of life as it passes in this busy world of ours : spanking machine for naughty girls Illustration depicts a spanking machine which was considered for use at Colorado Industrial School in 1898 and was already in use at the Girls’ Industrial School of Kansas at Beloit.

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February 13, 1898

Chicago Daily Tribune from Chicago, Illinois

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March 1925 New York Times looks back under the bottom of Edison article.

An electric spanking chair first broke into print. Th e chair was installed at the Kansas Girl’s Industrial School at Beloit.

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Aug 15, 2014#105
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
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<table cellpadding=”0″ cellspacing=”0″ border=”0″><tr><td width=”552″ height=”718″></td><td width=”30″ height=”718″> </td><td height=”718″ width=”280″>Electric spanking chair, as used for the chastisement of refractory young lady inmates around the end of the 19th century in various US Industrial Schools and Reformatories for Girls – allegedly!</td></tr></table>
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Aug 15, 2014#106
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Allegedly? I think the widespread use of this instrument in correctional institutions outside of Beloit KS for girls is largely apocryphal. Whether Warden C P Hoyt was able to sell his machine for personal use is another matter. Who these three habitual disorganizers and what were their pranks are left to the imagination: Irene Gross, Cora Johnson and Theresa Sauers? It is comforting to know that it had a five minute shut down feature for an absent minded guard.

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Forty years later. Girls’ Industrial School of Kansas at Beloit.

http://www.kansasmemory.org/item/223725

How could one even conceive of even the worse of that bevy having their bottoms paddled in such an ignominious fashion by such a cruel instrument of correction?

Perish the thought less it lingers.

The world never lacks for spanking machines.

http://outdoorfurniturepic.com/tag/weird/

Nor young ladies in need of it.

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Aug 15, 2014#107
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Habitual disorganizer Irene Gross? The leader of the pack.

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Aug 16, 2014#108
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>I have been determined to get to the bottom of this electric spanking chair thing, if only for the pleasure of proving that the Beloit, Kansas model oft instanced by my very greatly esteemed fellow contributor American Way never actually existed!

I have used every trick I know in searching the web, and a few tricks I made up on the spot. Alas, it was one of the latter which proved my undoing, and now my long held ambition to debunk the story will never be realised.

And here’s why!
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Clearly this is a very old picture, but sadly the hand-written endorsement does not include a date. There is a great deal of distortion and noise in the picture, and I would guess that it has been copied by both analogue and digital methods many times and possibly retouched.

The inmate’s face has been rather crudely obscured, but we can see that she is strapped into what appears to be a substantial and solidly built chair. The mechanism is invisible, but we can see the cables running into the underside of the chair. It is easy to visualise how such a spanking mechanism could be implemented. A support chair frame lacking a seat to restrain the inmate in the required posture, such as we see here. Paddles beneath the chair pivoted on a a horizontal shaft, the ‘business ends’ forced down against the pressure of a spring by a rotating cams on another shaft and then suddenly released by an abrupt change of cam profile. Ouch!

Due to the poor quality of the picture we cannot tell if what we see is the inmate’s actual dress, or if she is partly or wholly undressed for punishment and concealed by some sort of modesty covering which is perhaps an integral part of the chair’s fittings. It would be fascinating to know.

One would have thought that besides the picture there would be some sort of written account on the web from past publications or personal sources, either a personal recollection of being punished in the chair, or of witnessing or administering the punishment. If there is American Way has failed to find it, and so regrettably have I!</div>
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Aug 16, 2014#109
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Hi AL and AW,

I read this with great interest. Although, I must admit I have no evidence of my own to either prove or refute the spanking chair’s existence. It does, however; raise an important observation of a human tendency … that is to continually attempt to over-complicate what is truly a time-tested simple procedure … “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!”

What about the electricity costs? One of the advantages of CP is that it is a relatively cost-free method, after accounting for the price of the implement that is…

What about efficiency? One of the advantages of CP is that it is quickly executed and over with. Surely 10 could have been spanked in the time it takes to affix only one person into this chair, operate the mechanism, and then untie them again, taking great care not to entangle them (or electrocute them???) with all the electrical wiring
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Aug 16, 2014#110
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello HH,

Very valid points! However I think you are looking at the issue from a late 20th/early 21st century viewpoint. Reading between the lines of the many old US newspapers that American Way has linked here I think there was something of a dichotomy in thinking on the CP of females, especially in penal institutions, in the turn of the 19th century US.

CP seems to have been largely regarded as a good thing for both sexes in a penal context. However when it came to female offenders there seems to have been considerable disquiet about how it should be applied and who, if anyone should apply it!

The public was quite happy to hear in 1899 that the Reverend Dr G. B. F. Howard, holder of a Doctorate of Divinity from Auburn University, Alabama and former Professor of Oratory at the South-western Baptist University, had been bent over a barrel and soundly paddled on his doubtless bared bottom in Ohio State Penitentiary at the then quite advanced age of 46 for a prison escape. However, if the matron of a reformatory for girls put one of her young charges over her knee and spanked her there was a major uproar.

The cause of said uproar was not the CP per se. As noted that appears to have been generally approved of. Rather it was the feeling that in some way proper standards of decorum had been, or might have been, breached. And if the punishment was administered by a male there was no doubt whatsoever in the public mind, a breach there most definitely must have been!

Somehow the use, or prospect of the use, of a mechanical device where no human hand, or implement held by a human hand, made contact with the female bottom seems to have assuaged such concerns. Strange but true. But then I suppose chairs, especially electrically driven ones, cannot be conceived to have naughty thoughts or intentions!

These sentiments seem to have been limited to a particular era. By the 1920s on Southern US prison farms female convicts offending against the rules were apparently sometimes being taken over to the male units to be whipped, paddled or whatever along with male prisoners and by male overseers to save doubling up on punishment sessions. Though not in a penal context, to this day male staff in some US schools enthusiastically paddle girls in their final year at school.</div>
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Aug 16, 2014#111
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
There was an infatuation with electricity around the end of the nineteenth century through the early part of the twentieth century. I wonder of everything done by electricity, including spanking, had an attraction simply because of its novelty.

Previously proffered is one of many examples.

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A_L. I am surprised you would have drawn any conclusions without touching her buttocks after her spanking.

Was she punished for stealing seconds from the prison kitchen?
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Aug 16, 2014#112
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello American Way,

I trust that in this Family Forum your above remark addressed to me is the result of inadvertently misplaced or misused words and not some sort of thinly veiled accusation! </div>
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Aug 17, 2014#113
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
A_L We are a Family Forum so one should not draw nefarious conclusions. Touching that portion of that corpulent woman’s anatomy would be solely for verification purposes to assure authenticity and obviously not to derive venereal pleasures.
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Sep 23, 2014#114
Girl Flogging in England. Papers Past, last two links is nothing new to readers here.

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Who needs a machine when you have the total package?

Mrs Walter Smith addendum.

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Corporal punishment and more so of girls is an emotive subject within a spectrum.

The Latest English Scandal. “Kiss and be friends,” indeed – kiss a female fiend like that – kiss a woman flogger.” I like her to kiss her own rod, and in a no gentle style.

Barrier Miner (Broken Hill, NSW January 21, 1890

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The Cumberland Argus and Fruitgrowers Advocate (Parramatta, NSW February 21, 1891

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You didn’t mess with her. Flogging the Old Adam Out Of Girls. A Professional Bircher’s Method.

South Australian Chronicle February 8, 1890

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Not to expect miracles when it comes to reforming girls she weighed in on the matter. “Rome was not built in a day.” The old Adam will sometimes show itself, and for checking his work nothing is so useful as a birch rod judiciously used.”

On an earlier mention of corporal punishment we have an often mentioned magazine, English Woman’s Domestic Magazine. Those naughty 19th century girls needed some moral correction a century and a half ago.

However, for most women, such naughtiness could be more safely enjoyed within the pages of the leading domestic magazines. For, if anyone entered the room while they were reading of servants ordered to pull down a daughter’s underclothes, they could quickly flip the page to an article on fashion, the economy, politics, or the latest developments in the suffrage movement.

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Nov 16, 2014#115
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
A slightly better copy than that posted above by EAL August 15, 2014.

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Feb 10, 2015#116
It’s sad not to hear from prof n and without A_L exchanging posts with Renee, et. al. things have slowed down. Maybe some of my somewhat off topic posting might help to increase postings.

Red Wing MN Machinery for Flogging Machine.

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April 6, 2011. Red Wing MN Training School motion to abolish the whipping machine and the wet towel.

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May 4, 2011. Superintendent Frank A Whittier resists the governor.

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The Duluth Herald claimed it was a shameful political plot to force him to resign.

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November 17, 1911. Whittier resigns. Whipping described before the machine in 1897.

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History account December 3, 2003.

The motto was ironic. The school’s motto was it is better to build boys than to mend men.

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The Walls of Red Wing 1963. Walls of Red Wing.

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Red Wing MN Machinery for Flogging Machine Follow Up. April 21 2014

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Omaha Daily Bee. Omaha NE, November 22, 1903

The device adopted at the training school, while not eliminating the preliminary struggle, is designed to be a more scientific and humane application of the strap. The exact spot on the anatomy which it was proposed to attack may be marked with chalk, and the castlgatlon is then administered with exact precision.

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Spanking Machine Editorial.

The Weekly Thibodaux Sentinel. Thibodaux LA, October 24, 1903

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Feb 10, 2015#117
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
American Way’s last link contained an interesting line:

In the absence of a trunk strap, a hickory sprout three feet long and about the thickness of the little finger of an adult has a wonderful effect in making a studious and docile pupil.

We often speak about rattan canes and sometimes bamboo, but the hickory stick was a traditional form of the cane in the USA. Do we know anything about its properties and how commonly it was used?
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Feb 10, 2015#118
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Hickory is a deciduous tree belonging to the genus Carya. The genus includes 17–19 species with 11 or 12 from the United States.

Heart timber, from some hickory species at least, is known for its strength and durability. It has been used for ice axe and other tool handles.

Little seems to have been reported on the properties of slender hickory shoots, stems or twigs but I would guess they are strong, dense and flexible when freshly cut, depending on the time of season. A green hickory stick is likely to be heavier and considerably fiercer than a rattan cane of similar diameter and length. Experiments are required to test this conjecture.
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Apr 30, 2015#119
One of the largest subscriptions in March 1926 would be Popular Science. The fact that it was on exhibit in New York City attests, along with many Google searches, that the 1920’s so much was written about it. It is a reasonable surmise that it was used. Electrical Spanking Machine the Dream of a Generation.

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Recent follow up.

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Follow up on Charles E Gregory of Chicago Electric Spanking Machine 1907.

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The Remorse Motor and poor Ed Bloom. He chose it in favor of incarceration.

It amazes me how in the first decade of the twentieth century the fascination that the populace had for spanking machines.

February 4, 1907. The Topeka State Journal. Topeka, Kansas.

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March1, 1907. The machine sure gets around to Washington State.

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Something can be found about Charles E Gregory’s Kicking Machine in the periodical Western Electrician.

Page 54, 81 and 85.

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Kicking Machine.

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Some background. The whole spanking machine idea could have been a deliberate novelty to attract buyers to Charles E Gregory’s more practical products.

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This not to be confused with Tom Haywood 1937 Self-Kicking Machine

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Aug 04, 2015#120
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Spanking Machine Review. 2011 demonstration in Texas to successfully promote the cessation of school corporal punishment in New Mexico.

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Controls.

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Those girls who paddle are sure eye candy.

I wonder if there was any playback? IMHO They’re enjoying themselves far too much.

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Adjustable controls.

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Everyone can be paddled by the intensity of their offense and with the embarrassment of a witness.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/198833/m … 1270850989
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Oct 02, 2015#121
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
1905 Professor Dennis Spanking Machine from Peoria Illinois.

Protest against spanking machine in New York.

Vox Populi.

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Will it play in Peoria?

Google the phrase “Will it play in Peoria?”, and you’ll get more than a million results. Dating to the vaudeville era—the early 1880s through the early 1930s.

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Huntington West Virginia is a rather insular community where generation from generation share memories. For a person born in 1900 sharing their personal encounter with this spanking with their children would not be beyond the realm of possibility. It would be nice to have a confirmed use to dispel the notion that it is just a resilient myth.

I know this machine is nothing new to the estimable Forum but the part about the Lady Engineer is news to me.

Electric Spanker makes boys behave. October 2013

The Promoter of the Spanking Machine and his alma mater. Superintendent Wilson M Foulk.

http://archives.dickinson.edu/node/7314/zoomify

Story.

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Lady Engineer with her own electric supply plant for the electric spanker. Feb 11, 1914

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Bob Beer’s severe spanking machine.

San Juan Prospector, May 1, 1915

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Oct 02, 2016#123
A follow up on Duff Andrew Abrams.

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The Spanking Professor and Inventor.

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Closer to the source you are likely to details.

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Edith must have been going through her terrible twos.

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Professor Duff Andrew Abrams and his spanking machine. A correction for closer to the source link from my March 28, 2014 post.

Urbana Daily Courier August 1912.

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Oct 02, 2016#124
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
The Abrams family in picture with machine. I wish I could post with magnification and clarity here. A_L can that be done from that image?

St. Louis Post-Dispatch August 17, 1912.

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Oct 02, 2016#125
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello American Way,

I am sad to say that I cannot help with the picture you request above, at least not with an image of worthwhile size and clarity. A Google image search has failed to reveal an alternative source, fiddling with the URL of the thumbnail copy of the page image of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch August 17, 1912 in your link has not got me the full sized page image, and as far as I can see the only way I can get to a reasonably sized copy of the picture is to give my credit card details to Newspapers.com to gain access on a 7 day free trial. That I am not prepared to do. Very sorry.</div>
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Oct 02, 2016#126
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Thanks A_L. I certainly agree about putting my numbers out there. I have done some searches professionally where I have access. I had unanticipated free time in September from research so was able to post here frequently. American Way
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Nov 03, 2016#127
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Red Wing’s Spanking Machine. December 13, 1903. Chicago Record-Herald via The Sunday Oregonian.

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Dec 06, 2016#128
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Spanking Made Easy. Brainy Peter.

The Hartford herald. (Hartford, KY) July 06, 1921

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Dec 30, 2016#129
This topic became the subject of so much humor.

A Labor Saving Invention. 1874.

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/ … /seq-4.pdf
Rare indeed are mentions of particular victims of the spanking chair and even rarer are likely photographs of the very same Ralph Elisha Searles born in 1895 and spanked in 1910 according to the Columbus Dispatch. I wonder if he ever forgot the lesson taught by the spanking machine over his subsequent seventy years.

Arizona republican. June 24, 1910

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Ancestry.

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Further information.

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Are such Ancestry sites common in the UK. Genealogists pay a plenty for their resources in the USA.
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Jan 27, 2017#130
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Warden Clarence P Hoyt. Facts and Alternative Facts.

Bath Plain Dealer. February 25, 1898.

Of course, as we say here in the west, I was “talking through my hat,” and it was all said in a joke, but one of the Denver papers took it up and published a column article. Now it seems to have gone all over the earth, and I have received many letters, and, in fact, have now eight orders for “spanking chairs.”

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Herald Democrat, March 25, 1898

The English had an interests in the spanking machine and carried on a “voluminous correspondence.” Why would they be so interested? Hmm.

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Pearson’s Weekly It was well covered by the media to the point one could it went viral.

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Colorado Troublesome Girls. Life is unfair. The boys had a picnic in comparison.

New Castle Nonpareil, August 26, 1905

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Jan 28, 2017#131
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
My latest post is similar to my first posting over eight years ago (January 21 2009).

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Jun 05, 2017#132
Scold the girls. Spank the boys.

Coles Electro-micro Scolding Machine For Scolding Naughty Girls

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Snook’s Patent Whipping Machine for Flogging Naughty Boys in School

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Electrical shows often featured spanking machines.

The two consistently largest electrical shows in the U.S. were in Chicago and New York. Chicago’s annual show opened on January 15, 1906, when less than 8 percent of U.S. households had electricity.

The Smithsonian. Chicago’s annual show opened on January 15, 1906, when less than 8 percent of U.S. households had electricity.

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1907 Chicago’s Electrical Show Auto-Spanker.

The elusive “juice” which Benjamin Franklin tamed with a kite and his night key and which since has illuminated the world, conquered all nature and deprived the cable robe of its job in the streets of Chicago, is now debased into the humble purpose of preserving the sole of mother’s slipper.

Omaha Daily Bee February 9, 1907.

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1910 Chicago’s Electrical Show Auto-Spanker.

Wenatchee Times Washington State March 25, 1910.

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The Evening Telegram. New York October 10, 1911.

Volunteers wanted to demonstrate spanking machine.

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Scientific American review of 1911 exhibition.

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It would have been fascinating to be at 1911 Grand Palace Center.

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Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73

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Jun 27, 2017#134
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
There is an amazing amount attention placed on spanking machines. Is it a fascination? When you consider how rare the machine was actually applied to the human flesh it is totally out of proportion than these stories merit. Did they think it was going to catch on like wildfire?

This is one of the better written articles. It does say boys and girls but as the story continues so does the mention of girls.

It would be interesting if there were a credible personal witness carried down generationally through an oral tradition. I doubt if at this point in historical distance that is within the realm of the plausible.

Washington Standard. Olympia January 08, 1904

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Aug 01, 2017#135
Electrical shows often featured spanking machines.

The Smithsonian. Chicago’s annual show opened on January 15, 1906, when less than 8 percent of U.S. households had electricity.

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1907 Chicago’s Electrical Show Auto-Spanker.

Omaha Daily Bee February 9, 1907.

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1910 Chicago’s Electrical Show Auto-Spanker.

Wenatchee Times Washington State March 25, 1910.

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The Evening Telegram. New York October 10, 1911.

Volunteers wanted to demonstrate spanking machine.

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Scientific American review of 1911 exhibition.

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It would have been fascinating to be at 1911 Grand Palace Center.

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Here is one of the earliest mentions of a spanking machine for use in schools. Dr William A Taylor was not on unfamiliar with controversies.

State Chemists Dr William H Taylor in The Roanoke Times, July 29, 1890

Pro-spanking machine. The eyes have it.

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Funny story.

Richmond Times May 11, 1902

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Dr Taylor died a scorn bachelor for his theories.

April 15, 1917 Evening star. (Washington, D.C.)

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Aug 01, 2017#136
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73

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Aug 19, 2017#137
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Molly Ringwald was recently mentioned by A_L.

SXSW 2015 Molly Ringwald. She has a school age child. I’m sure she wouldn’t be “outsourcing” her spankings.

“I do NOT believe in spanking. I don’t think it is a good idea to resort to over-powering children in a physical way because it is teaching them the wrong message.”

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SXSW 2011 Unlimited Justice was well covered in the estimable Forum. Repeat.

Electric Paddle for Renee’s days off.

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Naughty redheaded girl!!!

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Aug 19, 2017#138
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Try this link for the youtube in prior posting.

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Aug 20, 2017#139
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73

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Aug 20, 2017#140
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
A_L

You cannot (unless you know how?) put a winking emoticon in the Message Title but that was how it was meant.

Not in a shy way I say that I was the first to bring TWP to the estimable Forum’s attention before they IMHO became just a pleasant distraction.

American Way

And on a lighter note.

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Aug 21, 2017#141
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73

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Sep 10, 2017#142
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
There has been a lot of postings about Warden Hoyt’s Spanking Machine. This organizes some of the links proffered from posts found here. The first two links were generated by a Congress in Hartford Connecticut.

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What’s the bottom line? The Paddle is Mightier Than The Sword.

The Hartford Weekly Standard September 25, 1899

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This is one from the months prior to that conference. It’s a build up of sorts.

Favors Prison spankinhs

Chicago Tribune August 20, 1899

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Oct 14, 2017#143
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Scotch Whipping Machine. There seems to be an abundance of stories at the turn of the nineteenth century about spanking machines. It fascinated the media.

London Star vis Wilmar Tribune Minnesota November 8, 1898

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Oct 15, 2017#144
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73

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Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
A_L, I think you are quite correct in your description of the Airdrie machine.

There is a good article on the Canadian Prison Strap on Corpun, that also describes a restraint table or apparatus as a “machine”. The close links between Scotland and Canada may be the reason why both have chosen to use the term.
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Oct 15, 2017#146
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73

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Oct 15, 2017#147
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
1898/1899 was the time of the Warden Hoyt spanking machine. It received international attention as well as prospective buyer if some published letters were to be believed .

When I first brought the Warden’s machine to the attention of the estimable Forum it was dismissed by many readers (now egg-faced) as a hoax.

Airdrie is a horse (hoax) of a different color. Why Airdrie didn’t receive notice in the British media lends that hoax theory some legitimacy.
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Oct 16, 2017#148
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73

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Oct 16, 2017#149
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
I happen to have never believed that electric spankings occurred in Kansas upon girls. Why? I believe in going as close as I can to the source. Topeka is their state’s capitol. There is no egg on my face unless in fact girls were paddle in said fashion. It was a combination of novelty and male fascination. Men were the one who wrote the stories in those days.

Moving closer to the source. The Advocate and News (Topeka, Kansas) February 23, 1898.

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A_L I really don’t have much interests on whether it was used on males nor desire to debate the point. In any case, it would appear it never caught on. That neither proves nor disprove that even one suffered an electric spanking in Colorado. I always try to get as close to the source as possible and look for names (George W Kephart) in the story that can be verified.

Moving closer to the source. Chaffee County (Colorado) Republican. April 7, 1898.

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Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Another_Lurker’s link to the Warden Hoyt picture shows a paddle that appears to have a curved profile, rather than being flat. At first I thought it might be a thick strap, but the description does say it is a Texas pine paddle.

I do not recall seeing an American paddle of that shape. Is it unusual or have I just not noticed previous similar examples?
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Oct 16, 2017#151
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
The word machine seems to be applied organizational protocols as well as to mechanical devices with moving parts. At least one such a machine has already been described in this forum where a judge and the sheriff, or some such officials, had an established protocol for informally dealing with youthful offenders with parental consent, if I recall correctly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_machine
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Oct 17, 2017#152
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73

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Oct 17, 2017#153
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
“Spanking Machine Circa 1880.

“Black and white photograph of the spanking machine used on prisoners at the Canon City Territorial Prison designed by CP Hoyt. The machine looks like two saw horses that angle to a small platform that has a pillow on top. An unidentified prisoner is leaning over the spanking machine while CP Hoyt holds a paddle. Four unidentified men are observing. A small wooden bucket sits on the ground beside the machine. A large rock wall is in the background. Written on the bottom: #381 Spanking machine. Original.; hard to read the rest of the words.”

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Warden C P Hoyt spent a lot time tinkering with his toy. He may have pulled the plug on his own pet project.

“He is working night and day on this subject, and hopes lo have his invention complete and ready to be patented within a short time. It will be known as “the electrical spanking chair,” and can be used for either men or women prisoners.”

The Duluth Evening Herald June 12, 1899.

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There was a demand for his contraption even in our nation’s capitol. Perhaps more so now, but I won’t go there for I’m sure the fawning Trumpettes, Renee, et. al. read us.

The Topeka State Journal July 3, 1899

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Oct 17, 2017#154
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello American Way,

I note on examining the associated PDF that in the second link of your above October 16 2017, 4:54 AM contribution, the one to the newspaper article about the elaborate financial arrangement between Warden Hoyt and Colorado State Treasurer George W Kephart to form the ‘Hoyt Consolidated Spanking Machine and Juvenile Correction Company Inc., there is an error in the masthead of ‘The Chaffee County Republican’. In setting the type for the April 1898 date the typesetter has inadvertently selected a ‘7’ rather than a ‘1’. An understandable error in view of the physical similarity between the two characters but the typesetter was clearly having a bad day as on that edition the terminal ‘AN’ of the paper’s name has also got lost and been replaced by a full stop. </div>
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Oct 17, 2017#155
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73

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Oct 17, 2017#156
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Through my sporting and other activities I have become used to and comfortable with appropriate nudity in appropriate places. (I still chuckle when I recall a young woman wandering, head down, absently mindedly into the men’s changing room at a Rec Centre during a busy time. She was VERY surprised and fled, pursued by laughter when she discovered her error.)

Lamentable, so called Brian ONC warned us in uppercase bold red of nudity in a his reckless hyperlink but gave no inkling of just how challenging the content would be. PLEASE! we need more warning than this! Some of us are not long for this world but are hoping for a few decade more.
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Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Is it my imagination, or is the paddling machine shown in the image linked by Brian ONC actually ON WHEELS rather than resting directly on the floor? Whatever happened to Newton’s Laws of Motion?
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Oct 18, 2017#158
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
Fear not Alan Turing.

Newton’s laws have been withdrawn by Presidential executive order. The legal basis of the order is uncertain but this does not matter given the record number of votes he received.
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Oct 18, 2017#159
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
having recently review several education films using a very similar apparatus used by a strikingly similar individual, i can assure the readers that the machine while on wheels moves very little when in operation. i believe it is massive enough that the force of the blow has very limited recoil effect. its motion is circular and it essentially swipes past the victim on each revolution only occasionally requiring repositioning. to be honest in the two videos i reviewed the device was equipped with a cane, but the design is the same aside from minor modifications to the arm so i assume the effect would be very similar.
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Oct 18, 2017#160
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73

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Oct 18, 2017#161
Sorry no picture. A spanking chair for incorrigible schoolgirls. Today we have a robospanker yesterday they had a prototype. It’s a media hoax.

http://books.google.com/books?id=itIdAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73
<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello Dane,

If only I had solved a long-standing problem whereby immediately previous posts are invisible until after posting despite refreshing threads a lot of space in this thread could have been saved. Your above October 18 2017, 4:39 AM response covers just about every essential point I was making, and very elegantly too! Alas I haven’t yet solved the problem, so I must console myself with the hope that juggling HTML/CSS to meet the peculiarities of Network54’s somewhat unusual restrictions is good for the brain. Unfortunately all the indicators are that, like programming in BASIC, it probably isn’t!

The various spanking machines used by the video producers concerned clearly have a developmental relationship but have gradually lost that ‘bodged up from a box of bits’ appearance. To me they are fairly unique in that insofar as I can judge from material accessible on the web without parting with cash they actually work. They appear, as I said in an earlier post, much nastier and more effective than generally available commercial alternatives. I wonder though if due to the rather violent operation the rate of mechanical attrition is high. In particular spare springs appear to be in evidence. Or are they possibly different strength springs?

At one stage I did encounter an offer of one for sale, together with rights to some videos, on a ‘make us an offer’ basis. Alas I was in a hurry at the time, failed to bookmark it, and have never found it again.</div>
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I have not been able to track down the Peoria Star. Whether it was a myth, a silent mentor or a well oiled machine?

The Evening Star, Franklin, Johnson County, January 12, 1906

Spanking by Machinery Introduced Into Schools. One of the modern innovations in education has been introduced in the schools of East Peoria and from all accounts its adoption in the Greenfield schools would prove beneficial were it not for the fact our children are angels. It is an electric spanking- machine. The recalcitrant pupil is laid over a chair near the paddling machine, a button is pressed and the resultant action is reported to be highly satisfactory.

The Peoria Star says: “Thus far there has been no occasion to employ the machine as the pupils fear the disgrace of being spanked mechanically, and would prefer their punishment in the old way. It thus operates as a moral check, cold, passionless, unsentimental, but businesslike, and its very presence is sufficient to maintain the best of order. In this capacity it is a silent mentor, and has been productive of too much good.”

https://newspapers.library.in.gov/cgi-b … nery——

The Evening Star, Franklin, Johnson County, March 9, 1906

England had an interest in spanking machines. There is nothing like American ingenuity mixed with the British vice.

“I read an account of the new electric spanking machine for school children. Have you heard of it? It is an American invention. We are eight miles from the town of Warwick, where there is one of the fines old castles in England.”

https://newspapers.library.in.gov/cgi-b … hine——

It would appear that a spanking machine was stationed in a suburb of Peoria near the beginning of the 1905 school year. As priorly posted, it sent shivers down some people’s spine. This may be meant to be a tongue in cheek response from a very liberal high school.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_C … ton_School

Prior posted from bottom link. Daily New York City Star, November 23, 1905

http://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/hi … Page=false

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Jul 30, 2018#163
February 2, 1901. This Afro-American newspaper had something in to say of Mrs Sarah Keeley’s lashing machine in the first link. Let me be the devil’s advocate and enter into my reasonable surmises. Illinois had a known machine and Indiana had a machine. What if I contended the Hoyt machine used in both institutions were one and the same?

In Indiana punishment was given by lashes to wayward girls. A bare bottom would never be mention but a bare back would be. Keeley was a speaker and as was often the case ways of controlling these girls would be a subject. Flogging was considered the lesser of cruel evils. She may have among those who defended corporal punishment. Starvation (bread and water) and dungeons (solitary confinement)? Think detention and suspensions and the “humane” paddle.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … nge&page=1

Aspen Weekly. May 28, 1892. Mrs. Sara Keeley. Illinois speaker.

https://www.coloradohistoricnewspapers. … y——-0-

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Jul 30, 2018#164
Girls need to be professionally spanked and by machines. Why? They are tougher to reform than boys. Just as Mrs. Sarah Keeley from the Indiana Reform School noted. Dress shouldn’t matter as the wayward girls would soon find out. ????

Colorado Daily Chieftain, June 26, 1892

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Jul 30, 2018#165
Alternate way of linking Afro-American February 2, 1901. Look for the second from below story found in the second column on the second day of the second month.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … nge&page=1
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Aug 13, 2018#166
Very early patent revolving spanking machine designed for domestic use.

True Republican. August 21, 1880.

http://idnc.library.illinois.edu/cgi-bi … ing——-
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Aug 28, 2018#167
Follow up on Whipping Machine for bad Scottish lads via the London Star. True Republican July 1899.

http://idnc.library.illinois.edu/cgi-bi … ent——-

Prior posted. Willmar Minnesota Tribune. November 8, 1899.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 26%2C8444/
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Nov 05, 2018#168
The only “confirmed” electric spanker for scholastic use is in West Virginia.

The Fairmont West Virginian. (Fairmont, W. Va.) September 26, 1913

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 03%2C3656/

Their superintendent made the news twice that week on an unrelated matter.

The Fairmont West Virginian. (Fairmont, W. Va.) September 22, 1913

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 30%2C3149/

Refer for priorly posted material from this thread.

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Jan 25, 2019#169
Edison Outdone.

Saturday Evening Mail, Terre Haute, Vigo County, December 28, 1878

https://newspapers.library.in.gov/?a=d& … hine——
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Jan 25, 2019#170
Edison Outdone
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Jan 25, 2019#171
KK,

Thank you for posting that image.

American Way
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Apr 19, 2019#172
A very primitive spanking machine.

A substitute punishment when incarceration was impractical.

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Jul 18, 2019#173
Why is always seem to be boys on the receiving end of spankings? That certainly not true well into the second decade of the 21st century. I wonder if there has ever been an electrical spanking ever administered in school or is it just an enduring myth?

It looks like he is doing all the work.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/62a31759cb6 … 2_1280.jpg
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Jul 18, 2019#174
Hello American Way,

Darned if you’re not right! However I process the picture I can detect no sign of mechanical flagellation. The man appears to be belabouring the boy’s bottom with a bagpipe chanter!
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Aug 01, 2019#175
The birch is so foreign from the American scene that the only thing that would compare would be the switch.

In 1899 the British spank by machine would be the birch while the Americans would be by paddle..

https://idnc.library.illinois.edu/?a=d& … ing——-

Americans are always open to new ideas!

https://spankingapp.com/how-to-correctl … -spanking/

https://spankingapp.com/a-beginners-gui … ed-part-1/

https://spankingapp.com/a-beginners-gui … ed-part-2/
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Aug 01, 2019#176
The use of the birch rod is mentioned whether figuratively or literally in the very early days of USA history as is the case seemingly in Rome, New York. It is found in the very beginning of the article. They could be referring to the switch. The rule of three almost universally applies to swats according to codes of conduct now.

http://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/hi … Page=false
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Aug 01, 2019#177
Hello American Way,

As regards your above comments on birching in the schools of Rome, New York in times past and early corporal punishments in US schools in general, I have to admit that wearing my earnest seeker after the truth hat I was much taken with an account you posted here back in April 2017 concerning SCP in the schools of Philadelphia in the second decade of the 19th century.

It quoted a student at that time as saying that:

When boys and girls were schooled together it was common practice to make the boys strip off their jackets, and loose the trousers’ band, preparatory to hoisting them upon a boy’s back, so as to get his whipping, with only the linen between the flesh and the strap. The girls too, —- we pity them! were obliged to take off their stays to receive their floggings with equal sensibility. ……………… All the teachers then were from England or Ireland, and brought with them the rigorous principles, which had been whipped into themselves at home.

As noted, pretty tough on the girls, but doubtless they were delighted to be granted equality with the boys long before this was generally sought or acceded!
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Aug 03, 2019#178
The turn of the century spanking machine was a great source of humor.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 52%2C5019/

Whipping was a way of reforming the refractory in a more humane way than other means.

Over the wooden horse.

http://www.overthedesk.com/spanking_sto … estion.jpg

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Sep 05, 2019#179
Iowa schools took corporal punishment seriously. The students in Tipton learned it as well.

https://mediaprocessor.websimages.com/w … G_2806.JPG

Texas 2011.

As painful as it may appear these high school graduates were not in the least bit reticent to set the clock back in time. I would imagine some had to compare it by.

Is this going to hurt?

https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/ … e=5E0B23FB

Ouch, yes it does.

https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/ … e=5DCA9A77

Improvements occurred with electricity.

https://www.coloradohistoricnewspapers. … ——-0–
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Sep 05, 2019#180
The video explanation is nonsense. The patented device is for fraternity initiations not school spankings. The pledge was blind folded. Refinements added an electric shock plus an exploding percussion cap to provide a multi-sensory experience. De Moulin, 1900. US Patent 654,611
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Sep 05, 2019#181
I absolutely agree and was about to caution the readers of the likelihood. In retrospect I am sorry I posted OTOH who appropriated it for the museum and put in that setting? I hope it was never used upon a pupil.
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Sep 08, 2019#182
A visit to New Castle, Delaware means a machine was seriously being considered.

1886

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … nge&page=1

Sixth column

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/data … 1/0533.pdf

These were whimsical. Last column

1903

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/data … 1/0211.pdf

First column

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 39%2C8358/

The argument can be made that one cheek was hit harder than the other or the size of the bottom matters. The machine cannot be right handed or left handed as seen on the rear in the raw via partial nudity. It depends solely on the hand that holds the remote control. What can the poor man do when the girls fall behind in rent. Have a pity on the poor guy.

http://www.thespankingblog.com/images/g … es_(4).JPG

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Sep 16, 2019#183
The spanking machine has been a great source of humor but more so when brand spanking new in th early part of the twentieth century. This 1914 story would have immediate relevance when fact checkers are need all the more a century later.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 10%2C3928/

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/data … 1/0064.pdf
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Dec 02, 2019#184
The end of the 19th century didn’t lack for stories about electric spankings. Are they stories or are they real. Unless someone attests to being so chastised we will never know whether electricity was being used profitably for the inventor or the recipient.

It Became a butt of many jokes in the news. Here is a satirical article from Chicago News. Fifth column and four stories from bottom.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/data … 1/0160.pdf

Avid readers here are aware of this priorly posted story.

A French Electrical Flogging Machine.
A savant named Henri Roget, hailing from Lyons, has, it is stated, a new use for electricity. He has a patent to apply it as a substitute for the cat-o’-nine tails in corporeal punishment. The culprit, having been undressed, is securely strapped to a steel triangle, which is connected with one pole of a powerful battery. The other pole is connected with the whip, which consists of a number of steel wires covered with a sponge. This whip is dipped in water before the stroke is administered, and whenever the wet wires touch, an electrical discharge takes place.

The inventor claims that the chastisement can be made so mild as not to injure a school girl, while on the other hand, by increasing the power of the battery, a punishment can be administered beside which the knout would be mere child’s play and at the same time no injury is inflicted; the disgusting spectacle of a lacerated back is avoided, and the culprit, instead of having to be sent to the hospital to have his wounds healed, can be put to work in five minutes after the flogging is over. M. Roget intends petitioning Gen. Boulanger, the French minister of war, to allow his patent to be used experimentally on the next soldier sentenced to the cat. Flogging is not in existence in the French army, nor is it likely to be introduced to test the machine. Electrical World. U
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Delaware Prisoners in the stocks waiting to be whipped
[from the Los Angeles Herald, 1896] ‘ In the Jail yard near the wide entrance stands the pillory, with Its whipping post. Under the laws of the state a judge may, at his discretion, sentence an offender to the pillory, to the whipping post or to both forms of punishment. The sentence always specifies the time in which the victim shall stand in the pillory, and If he is to be whipped, the number of lashes which he shall receive. It frequently happens that a person convicted of a felony and sentenced to a long term of imprisonment is treated to a dose of pillory and whip before beginning to serve his time.”
Public flogging at a Delaware prison as photographed by J C Hemment and published in Everybody’s Magazine, 1899.
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Dec 20, 2019#186
Which of the following penalties on their own or in combination might deter you from committing a felony assuming you were able to think beyond your immediate impulses and needs?
Whipping (39 lashes)
Pillory (6 hours on five consecutive days)
Imprisonment with hard labor (6 years)
My understanding is that it was claimed at the time that the criminally inclined tended to migrate to other states.
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Dec 21, 2019#187
Hello JamieMurphy,

You have contributed a few times recently and may I say a personal thank you to you for your efforts to keep this estimable Forum afloat when longer standing contributors like myself are falling by the wayside.

As I have often posted here, only half in jest ???? I had been expecting the return of public flogging and the equivalent of exposure in the pillory to return in the UK as our political system collapsed, closely followed by society in general, thus leading to right wing extremist elements seizing control of government.

Strapped for cash due to the inevitable decline in national economic activity commensurate with social collapse, and anyway inclined towards hang ’em and flog ’em as a solution to crime, what easier way could there be for such a regime to supplement income than by introducing an automatic sentence of corporal punishment for just about every minor (and thus frequently committed) crime in the book.

If convicted there might possibly be an option to pay through the nose to avoid the JCP, but if you couldn’t or wouldn’t pay the resulting punishment will be in public in front of a paying audience, so cash will be generated one way or another. Maybe those whacked will have to pay a small (at least relative to the avoidance fee) amount to cover the cost of their punishment as well.

I confidently predict though that the regular ‘Watch ’em Whacked’ pay-TV programs and public access punishment events will be hugely popular and massive income generators. Schadenfreude seems an almost universal sentiment where at worst there is only minor physical distress but inevitable major embarrassment is the fate of those providing the entertainment. Just look at some of the public displays of humiliation that have attracted huge TV audiences in recent years. Big Brother or whatever it was called and that sort of rubbish, eating grubs in the jungle etc., even cookery events where the attraction seems to be seeing some poor so and so in tears as their cake slowly and painfully disintegrates into its component constituents.

Happily that nice Mr Johnson and his amazing electoral triumph has probably freed us of the risk of an extremist JCP favouring regime for a year or two at least. And anyway personally it has to be said that I’d almost certainly be exempt from JCP by virtue of age.

However presented with the opportunity I shall eagerly indulge in a little idle whimsy in the great tradition of the ‘Caned or fined, you decide’ threads which for a year or two at the height of the popularity of the Forum, prior to the Sundering of the Happy Circle, The Great Schism, and the subsequent slow decline, were a regular feature of the Forum’s Christmas Silly Season. Just in case anybody should think I’m not being serious I can only say that just because I’m paranoid it doesn’t mean they might not be out to get me! ????

If apprehended for my habit of occasionally driving somewhat above the limit (only when it is completely safe to do so of course, but a 70 mph limit on an empty 4 lane motorway is just silliness with modern cars) or if successfully fitted up by the Capita thugs employed by the BBC to try to make me buy a TV licence to watch or record live TV when I don’t do either, then in my envisaged imaginary dystopic regime I might just find myself faced with a vast avoidance payment or having to undergo public corporal punishment without an age exemption. My envisaged imaginary dystopic regime really is that dystopic!

Unless you are really naughty speeding usually only results in a fine and points, whereas TV licence evasion can end in imprisonment. So my fate if opting not to pay the almost certainly extortionate ‘Waive the Whacks’ fee may be the cane for speeding, say 8 to 12 strokes depending on the amount over the limit, whereas the TV licence evasion may be the birch, say a standard 12 strokes for a first offence, 18 strokes for subsequent infractions.

Nothing Singaporean in either case. No lacerated flesh and marking for life, the dystopia stops short of that, well for the time being anyway. Basically a severe but school type caning or the sort of birching at one time dispensed by the judicial system to teenagers and young adults in most of the UK (except the Isle of Man, which at times utilised a rather more robust version). Now it will doubtless be one of those rattan birch thingies, collection and preparation of natural indigenous tree material being somewhat time consuming and inconvenient with a large prisoner throughput to be whacked

It will have to be carefully packaged for spectacle, sensation and public appeal of course. Offenders of both sexes paraded in chains, manacled and shackled, that sort of thing, to pull in the crowds. Exiguous clothing to whatever minimal level current morality standards will tolerate for the prisoners, who’ll be made to stand cruelly exposed to the public gaze to await their turn for punishment.

Male prisoners might well only get the sort of nether garment sometimes sported by over-muscled young men with six packs and so well described by Rudyard Kipling in his poem ‘Gunga Din’ as “nothin’ much before, An’ rather less than ’arf o’ that be’ind”. But then again we might not even get that. Does anyone remember ‘The Naked Jungle’? Participants rushing about with very visible full frontal nudity much in evidence and they got away with that in June 2000 on UK terrestrial TV! Who can predict what indignities my imaginary extremist regime will impose on its prisoners to attract the paying public into punishment sessions, and what that paying public will tolerate, even demand. All I can say is if Keith Chegwin had to shed everything but his hat back in 2000, and he wasn’t even being subjected to JCP as a prisoner under punishment, I don’t expect to retain even the hat! ????????

And then on to the actual punishment, for which we offenders will of course be securely restrained on some sort of apparatus in a posture definitely designed to both facilitate and provide a good view of the punishment. Despite extensive research here and elsewhere I have come to no firm conclusion as whether recipient face to the audience/cameras or the opposite will be favoured by viewers. Nor am I sure what I might favour as a recipient either, but then I don’t expect to have a choice. ???? Perhaps they’ll have a slowly rotating turntable or all-round cameras with giant screens omitting no aspect or angle of the process. Who knows?

But in the ‘Caned or fined, you decide’ threads to which I’m supposed to be paying tribute the interesting issue was what individual contributors claimed they would do faced with JCP or the expensive avoidance thereof. And I make no secret of what I’m going to do!

I’m certainly not paying any large avoidance fee. The state gets far too much out of me in taxes already and as it isn’t based on my current economic activity that’s unlikely to change under the envisaged extreme regime. I can’t claim to be out of work, I retired years ago.

I’ll take my chance with the Gunga Din nether garment (or more likely the lack of any garments at all), and with the handcuffs and shackles. After all everyone knows that the latter are only imposed for prisoner safety, to stop us accidentally wandering off and getting lost in an unfamiliar environment. And even if the audience doesn’t flee the arena at the probable sight of me in the nude I really should be able to hack the embarrassment.

I was a systems programmer for goodness sake. Being chained up stark naked in public really can’t be any worse than the entire computer centre staff from the manager down clustered round your desk demanding to know how long it will take to fix the current system glitch now can it? Not to mention every phone in the building ringing as hundreds of employees round the area try to find out when their computers will work again.

A bit late now, but thinking about it I could have possibly got rid of at least the local queries and got a bit of time to work out and do whatever needed doing by taking my clothes off in those halcyon days of wrestling with the worst ICL or IBM could do! Would certainly have cleared my desk area I think! Alas the idea never occurred to me and I usually just resorted to the probably less successful tactic of pointing out that there was only one of me and I could spout verbal guesswork or get on with the job, find the problem and fix it. But not both at once.

As a prisoner sentenced to JCP the real difficulty for me is undoubtedly going to be the actual ‘corporal’ bit of the punishment. Try as I might I really can’t convince myself that a smacked leg in primary school is going to be adequate preparation for being strapped down and caned or birched, almost certainly on the bare, even at an otherwise fairly mild level. But hey, they say try anything once except incest and country dancing!

I’ve certainly avoided incest, and steadfastly refused to participate in country dancing (or any other type of dancing for that matter) since I was a little lad. But despite attending a secondary school where, almost inconceivably now, pupils caned other pupils, I’ve also dodged the cane with deliberate avoiding action and malice aforethought. So in a way when my turn comes to get publicly whacked in aid of the public purse it will only be fair dos. My many admirers here who in the past have gently tried to persuade me that I really ought to get myself caned before writing quite so much about SCP will also have achieved their objective, albeit a little late. I trust they’ll be equally satisfied should it be the birch instead!

Then there’s the little outstanding matter of what Andy Warhol promised everybody back in 1968. “In the future, everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes” was what he wrote, and other than in very restricted and specialist circles I’ve never had my 15 minutes of fame. ???? I don’t expect international acclaim for being whacked on the bare on live TV. However I should be a darn sight more famous then and for at least some time afterwards than I was before the clothes came off, the chains went on and I was led out into the floodlights shuffling in my shackles to meet my fate!

There is one financial factor I’ve hitherto omitted. Whatever it costs, provided that if added to the cost of punishment fee (if any) the total is still less than the ‘Waive the Whacks’ fee (and I’m sure it will b)e, I shall happily pay the fee to select the gender of the caner or bircher who deals with me. Female of course! Now in the past that sentiment has incited ladies to write in claiming that I’m wrong in thinking women can’t whack as hard as men.

Far be it from me to discourage further interesting discussion on that topic so if anyone is thinking of writing in to complain along those lines, please do. But I’m not actually saying that at all. I just have a total aversion to the idea of being whacked by another male. Silly I know but there it is. With another male I’ll have to resist with whatever violence I can muster and deploy, however small, and I’ll inevitably be overcome and add considerably to my embarrassment, if not my actual punishment, to boot. But I could never attempt violence against a woman even in circumstances where she was most certainly going to do the same to me. Result, at least in the special circumstances under discussion here, probably less overall pain and probably some face saved. It’s a no-brainer!

Back in the 2010 iteration of the ‘Caned or fined, you decide’ thread another contributor said that he thought the then Home Secretary (and later Prime Minister) Theresa May would be a splendid choice as a celebratory caner for male prisoners. I was happy to concur, whereupon a lady contributor with a rather acerbic turn of phrase wrote that:
Six of the best from THERESA MAY (Home Secretary) with no blind fold might sort both Steve and A_L out

Our critic was partly motivated by the fact that both Steve and I had carelessly contrived to accidentally omit the ‘h’ from ‘Theresa’ and at the time one Teresa May happened to be a well-known dominatrix. However I thought the ‘no blind fold’ bit was distinctly unfair to the right Mrs May She was then, and indeed still is, a fine figure of a woman, equally at home in pencil skirt and high heels or a split skirt and rather lower heels.

The latter outfit would be excellent for a celebratory caner, both as regards audience appeal and freedom of movement. If restraints and imposed punitive posture permits (although they probably won’t as I understand efforts are usually made to restrict the prisoner’s ability to anticipate forthcoming strokes) looking round to glimpse Mrs May approaching with cane or birch in hand ….. Well there could be worse outcomes. Some of those rather large lady bodyguards colleagues of Mr Corbyn for instance! ????

Sad, but it probably would be best to avoid the high heels. At least one, and I think two, of our past fake female whackers have advocated removing heels to whack because of balance problems. That notwithstanding, if my dystopian disciplinary difficulties lead to my being publicly whacked then just as back in 2010 Mrs May can certainly wield the punitive implement if she’s up for the job, outfit immaterial.

I doubt though that she would be up for it after that mauling as PM. And while she may look somewhat like the archetypical hang ’em and ‘flog em right wing Tory lady who would thoroughly approve of public JCP and the chance to make sure one of the malefactors got their just desserts I don’t think she is. While she was Shadow Education Secretary she firmly suppressed a movement in the party to agitate for the return of SCP and made it absolutely clear that there would be no further efforts in that direction.

But anyway, if I’m publicly whacked, whether it’s a politician, a police officer, a court functionary, someone from the audience who picked a winning number in one of the associated ‘Whack a Wrongdoer’ raffles or anyone else who does the whacking, they have to be female. If there’s gender division, with males whacking males and females whacking females then I’m going in with the female felons!

If my whacking is for the purported TV licence evasion that might be just fine. There are so many cases there might well have to be events solely dedicated to dealing with the unfortunates coped for that. Such a high proportion of them are female that it wouldn’t be worth bringing in a male whacker anyway. He’d be conspicuously under-employed. The Capita thugs find it much easier to force entry and extract confessions from young women. Men can get just a teeny bit aggressive about it as without a genuine court order, which they seldom have, there’s no right of entry anyway, and like most bullies the Capita thugs don’t like a taste of their own medicine.

But if I can’t be whacked by a woman it’s game over! With or without the chains, handcuffs, shackles and exiguous attire (or absence of it) I’m giving up, spoiling the party and going home! In short I’m not going to play such silly games any more! So there! ????????????

Did anybody read a fraction of this? Did anybody make any sense of it? Is there any appetite for another ‘Caned or fined, you decide’ thread, given that we’re unlikely to have a Christmas Competition? Shall I ever know?

And will KK’s gallant attempt above to get something along similar lines started be successful. Time will tell!
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Dec 21, 2019#188
A_L, I hate to quibble about your somewhat epic post, but surely you, like me are currently exempt, by reason of your age, from paying for a TV licence? Of course this situation may not continue for long. The Chancellor of the Exchequer will soon realise that neither he, nor the BBC, has the money to continue the subsidy, given the list of promises made by his leader. Unfortunately, with a strong majority, the Prime Minister no longer needs to offer incentives to older voters.
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Dec 21, 2019#189
Hello hcj,

First, my apologies for the ‘somewhat epic post’, which is of course complete drivel, or at least can safely be so regarded. Past experience indicates that my ‘somewhat epic posts’ occasionally trigger some sensible and useful contributions from contributors who otherwise lack time or inclination to post but put fingers to keyboard in desperation at the thought of more such stuff from me. Will that happen this time? We’ll see. But to help the process along there could be more ‘somewhat epic posts’ in the pipeline. This is after all the season when in the past, while the Forum was much more active, participants let their hair down a little. Just a warning! ????

Those TV licences: You are of course quite correct in saying that at present over age 75 in the UK one does not need to pay for a licence to watch or record live television broadcast from anywhere in the world via any transmission media, a facility which if utilised by a property in the UK requires that the property has a mandatory UK TV licence, the responsibility of the legal occupant or controller of the property.

However if you are over 75 and do watch or record such media it still requires the licence, even though you presently don’t have to pay for it. I can’t actually find a documented way of obtaining the free licence if one hasn’t previously had a paid for licence. But that raises ethical considerations as to whether even if there were a way it would be right and proper to take advantage of it, not having previously paid one’s tythes so to speak. But anyway that isn’t my problem.

My problem is that the BBC, the beneficiary of UK TV licence fees, has in its wisdom decreed that all properties in the UK watch or record live TV whether they actually do or not. There is absolutely no legal requirement in the UK for anyone to watch or record live TV. I haven’t done so for years and I know of others who don’t either. All of them happen to be climbers, but that may just be a function of the people I mix with. The BBC has however instructed its licence fee collection agent Capita, or possibly allowed Capita to assume (the distinction is academic) that every property in the land must have a TV licence, and if it hasn’t the head of the property must be harrassed, hounded and persecuted until it has.

Note that I say persecuted not prosecuted in the previous paragraph. Prosecution is much more difficult and effectively requires Capita’s agents to either coerce the occupant into confessing that they do need a licence but haven’t got one or to enter the property and allegedly discover evidence that broadcast TV is being or has been or is going to be watched or recorded. As they have no right of entry unless a Magistrate grants a warrant, which Magistrates are rightly reluctant to do without evidence of criminality, entry is difficult unless the occupant is stupid or is frightened into allowing admission or both. But as they are expected to initiate at least 5 prosecutions per working day Capita agents are of necessity expert in bullying, intimidation and faking evidence.

The BBC, via their Capita agents, have been harassing, hounding and persecuting me for years and are still doing so. They write to me every two weeks. I have been threatened many, many times that unless I buy a licence everything from being revealed to my neighbours as a licence cheat through identification and publicity in the local press to being dragged to court and imprisoned, and every variant thereon imaginable will befall me.

So far I haven’t been threatened with being publicly whacked on the bare as postulated in my ‘somewhat epic post’. However come the extremist takeover if they can add that to the threats I have no doubt that they will. Were I to send regular threatening and completely unsubstantiated letters to someone I would certainly be dealt with by the law in very short order, but the BBC has been doing it to me and others with complete impunity for years .

But that’s the harassing, hounding and persecution bit. As regards prosecution or making me obtain a licence I don’t need their campaign has been a miserable failure. Not once have I been dragged off to court and then to prison. As far as I know the neighbours are completely unaware that I don’t have a TV licence, and anyway they probably don’t care much either way. I don’t read the local rag but nobody has mentioned any publicity there.

A few years ago an agent did visit the house to inquire about my lack of a licence. I would like to think that the fact that he didn’t try to force his way inside was normal agent behaviour rather than prompted by the fact that I am a fairly large and quite intimidating male who can walk the walk and talk the talk and not a half educated unemployed young woman. Sadly most of the evidence from elsewhere is to the contrary. I explained to him exactly what the law was as he seemed a little vague on the matter and told him why I didn’t need a licence. He said he’d get the letters stopped but of course nothing happened.

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Dec 31, 2019#190
Is the electrical spanking machine for school children a reality or just a resilient myth? The one seems the most likely to be true was a machine invented by Professor Dennis for a school in a school in the East Penna neighborhood of Peoria, IL. It was being tested but whether it was ever employed is another matter.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … -1/seq-13/

State training schools are different than a neighborhood school where a severer machine would be more likely to be employed and in fact used.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … nge&page=1

Stories abounded around the turn of the century when electrical machinery were a novelty with many just being as labor saving devices. This has sufficient details that it meets my reasonable surmise test of being factual.

https://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/h … Page=false

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Jan 01, 2020#191
Spanking machines were not only considered labor saving but as humane considering alternate means of punishing miscreants. Mrs. Hannah Babcock defended the spanking machine even when it was strongly opposed by her peers in her 1907 address. It was degrading work to personally spank an offender and a machine it somewhat more bearable.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 05%2C1517/
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Jan 08, 2020#192
This is perhaps the oldest first color depiction of a spanking machine for scholastic use. The redheaded schoolmarm reminds me of someone. Molly Ringwald?

https://66.media.tumblr.com/fb7f4261c0f … 1_1280.jpg
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Jan 08, 2020#193
Mrs. Babcock suggestion was in 1907 in the post just before my prior post. The color comical depiction was in 1909.
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Jan 12, 2020#194
There was an inordinate interest in spanking machines in the early 1900’s. They avoid calling too much attention to a certain part of the anatomy?

Some of the curiosity could have been rooted in baser appetites best left unexplored.

I have posted snippets and for those with interest the can click the persistent link. These are not priorly proffered links but brand spanking new.

1903 was a banner year with the spanking machine in actual use in Minnesota and not just a resilient myth. On the whole most favored a good old fashioned spanking used since Adam and Eve spanked Cain and Abel for playing leap-frog with a baboon in the jungles of South Africa.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 03%2C7517/

Here are are some other accounts laced with satire.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 25%2C1422/

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 66%2C8949/

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 97%2C5069/
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Jan 12, 2020#195
1906 Punishment Class of Dr Switchtail Academy with illustrated low voltage spanking machine. Here is an example of a resilient mythical accounts so popular in the early 1900’s with this novelty.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti … stralian=y
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Jan 12, 2020#196
This might fit in this thread. I have it labelled as “Shop of Stuff”.
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Jan 16, 2020#197
Wow! A very recent production going by the slang (“my bad”). Who made it? Where is it from?
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Jan 16, 2020#198
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Jan 16, 2020#199
Reported by American Way
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Jan 21, 2020#200
At the turn of the century satirist abounded. Mark Twain was the world’s greatest. Victor Hermann was one of many that wrote in that genre. There was such an interest in electric spanking but rarely were more than anything more than fiction. The one the most referenced seems to be the real McCoy.

1906 the Evolution of Spanking. Victor Hermann.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 86%2C1992/
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Unread postFeb 07, 2020#201
This may have been the last use of a spanking machine in the USA.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 65%2C6899/

https://www.coloradohistoricnewspapers. … ——-0–
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Unread postMar 08, 2020#202
Girls were girls but perhaps naughtier in 1899. If the 1910 professional spanker was worn out maybe it was time to automate.

My opinion Is that the refractory girl should be subdued and conquered, if it required the State militia to be called in. There are girls in the home stronger than the managers or other officers. Even a sheriff finds an ugly, strong girl difficult to handle. I certainly would direct the superintendent to summon male assistance if she could not manage the girl, when About to punish her. Subjugation is absolutely necessary to successful management.

https://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/h … Page=false

Emily E. Williamson, Jersey City, N. J

Our History: Palisades Preservation

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Unread postMar 09, 2020#203
These events occurring in exhibition halls in New York and Chicago displayed spanking machines that attracted viewers from around the world. Most of the electrical of our practical nature that would attract buyers. The spanking machine was more for amusement.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 53%2C2329/

This amusing piece is an example reacting to an incident I priorly referenced as found in the last link.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti … ng+machine

These stories about spanking machines were popular up until the early part of twentieth century. The fad ran its course. International journalists to great interest and shared it with their readers with much amusement.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 01%2C7979/

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Unread postMar 19, 2020#204
Nothing was more feared among the inmates in upstate New York than Brockway’s paddle. No one was more disliked than wife beaters or more deserving of a taste of the spanking machine.

1895. The machine didn’t exist.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 80%2C2822/
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Unread postMar 19, 2020#205
https://books.google.com/books?id=BEQDAAAAQAAJ

Harrie, or, Schoolgirl life in Edinburgh [Special fetish AW & EAL edition]

Wildfire Religious Tract Society, 56, Paternoster Row, 65, St. Paul’s Churchyard, 164, Piccadilly, 1877

After her father dies, Harrie goes to live with her stepmother and stepsisters in Edinburgh. Determined not to have a “Cinderella performance,” Harrie’s stepmother and stepsisters struggle to be kind to plain, awkward, Harrie, even as they are embarrassed by her country ways, misbehaviour and shoddy clothing.
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Unread postMar 20, 2020#206
Hello KK,

How could you possibly think of linking such a disgraceful publication! I realise that you did describe it as a ‘special fetish edition’ but really the suggestion that tawsing on the bare might have been in use as a punishment in a high class Edinburgh educational institution for young ladies in 1877 stretches credulity to limits beyond those which even our most impressionable readers may be expected to attain!
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Unread postApr 16, 2020#207
Spanking machine in Redwood MN was anything but one in terms of being electric. Boys losing count at 50 and exaggerating to be more was certainly understandable as you can see in the third column. The first column gives you an idea of the me towards suffrage.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/data … 1/0243.pdf

The so-called spanking machine.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 73%2C2142/

Girls were here corporally punished with a rubber hose.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 88%2C6075/

It was never electric.

The end.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 05%2C5524/
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Unread postApr 16, 2020#208
Hello American Way,

An interesting find, thank you. Around that period, the early 20th century, the term ‘spanking machine’ seems to have been used sometimes in a judicial and reformative context for any systematic application of CP. I recall that in another of your excellent finds the system in a town where erring boys, and allegedly the occasional erring girl were taken from court to a back room where justice was dispensed with a barrel stave wielded by one policeman while another securely held the offender was also termed a ‘a spanking machine’.

In the case of the Redwood MN state training institution for young offenders discussed here the ‘spanking machine’ seems to have consisted of a contoured block over which the offender was bent, ankles secured to the block at floor level on one side and outstretched arms pulled down on the other side by tension applied by a member of staff via a rope and floor mounted pulley.

If I recall my physics correctly the pulley does make it technically a ‘machine’ and it was used for ‘spanking’, albeit with a leather belt with a hand grip wielded by a second member of staff, so ‘spanking machine’ was its correct designation, but a misleading one in terms of modern usage.

One hopes that the girls punished with the ‘lpiece of rubber hose’ were not also subjected to being stretched tightly bent over on the ‘spanking machine’ with a wet towel applied to the naked body. The latter device may indeed prevent abrasions of the skin as stated, but it also reputedly allows harder strokes and substantially increases the pain for the recipient.
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Unread postMay 10, 2020#209
Was a school child ever electrically spanked? I find Huntington, West Virginia the one that is the most credible for the city was growing rapidly and so maybe the classrooms as well. You don’t buy spanking machines in 1913 you build them. Schoolmom’s moral persuasion wore their patience down so any help would be much appreciated.

1890 10,108 218.5%
1900 11,923 18.0%
1910 31,161 161.4%
1920 50,177

1913

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 15%2C3501/

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 07%2C4052/

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Unread postMay 25, 2020#210
Maybe it was a fascination with all things electric spanking machines than at the beginning of the twentieth century in the USA. Here is an American one from 1911.

Caricature: Wit and Humor of a Nation in Picture, Song and Story (1911).

https://ia800700.us.archive.org/BookRea … 3&rotate=0

https://archive.org/details/caricaturew … rch/Lickin
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Unread postMay 25, 2020#211
Hello American Way,

I am interested to note from your ‘spanking cartoon’ in the contribution above that American urchins in 1911 had the same dreadful linguistic habit as that currently adopted by most of the buffoons who currently govern us in the UK: Saying “ter” when they mean “to”.
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Unread postJun 14, 2020#212
Creativity was not lacking when it comes to finding ways of correcting incorrigible Denver girls. Delaware was the last to dispense with the whipping post for judicial offens but seemed open to fresh ideas.

These 1898 girls would soon learn there are worse consequences for their misbehavior. They were of high school age and were spared the indignity of being stripped. In their tender teens it would be excruciatingly embarrassing. Considering the non-corporal alternatives it was considered a more humane option.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 90%2C3733/

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 44%2C2040/

Incorrigible boys are not incorrigible girls.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 56%2C2332/

In 1985 there were over a million students paddled. Even today in Enterprise High School Alabama they paddle on an average 10 per day. A machine like this would come in handy. It can be adjusted according to the offense and in spite of having holes Lexan won’t splinter and would last longer than the electric parts. Those two gentleman look like they have already gone through a long day.

https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=DS19880312. … 22——-1
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Unread postJun 15, 2020#213
From every indication in 1898 they were no electrically spanking girls in a chair in Beloit, Kansas with a kindly maternal touch at the helm.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 22%2C2386/

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 08%2C3745/
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Unread postJun 15, 2020#214
The bottomless spanking chair for naughty girls bottom as shown here has been debunked by a local news outlet.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 32%2C6416/
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Unread postJun 15, 2020#215
Compelled to spank a woman, Warden Hoyt designed the electric machine to afford the naughty lady her privacy and sparing him of any unpleasantries without wasting a smoking break. What a clever man!

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 09%2C4932/

Alas, The Warden’s electric spanking machine was indeed as I initially suspected a hoax. Now I must disabuse the gullible A_L of any notion to the contrary. What an unenviable task!

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 39%2C4036/
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Unread postJun 15, 2020#216
This debunks the use of the spanking machine in Colorado. A paddle wielded in the traditional manner just shy of an inch wide and a pound heavy should be sufficient to tame a reform student irrespective of gender.

This leaves me with one plausible spanking machine used in a school in Huntington, West Virginia.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 76%2C6359/
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Unread postJun 15, 2020#217
Chasing down local papers has made the Huntington, WV much less plausible. It doesn’t take a Belgium detective to conclude this spanking machine has been debunked. It is fascinating why this myth is so resilient. Bottom right hand corner.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/data … 1/0216.pdf
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Unread postJun 20, 2020#218
One of the first satirical accounts of a spanking machine was from 1874 that I have previously posted. However, unbeknownst to me, that was only part of the story. The machine had other uses as a labor saving device.

It is found in the PDF.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/data … 1/0139.pdf

The spanking machine part is rendered here.

The heart of the inventor was touched at seeing a frail school ma’am with her right hand swelled up to the size of a canvas-ham form agitating a boy who had wickedly placed a piece of clapboard inside of his pants when he knew that the teacher was on the warpath after him. The teacher was weeping, and mentally saying she would run that boy through a thrashing-machine before she got through with him. The idea at once struck the inventor that a machine could be constructed that would tan the jacket, as it were, of the young reprobate and as the result of careful thought and study the spanking machine was invented.

What a change! Instead of dreading the task of punishing scholars and shivering at the prospect of blistering hands, the teacher can enjoy the performance, and look forward to the hour for doing up a day’s spanking with a feeling of pleasure and gladness, and the frown formerly stereotyped on the face of the average school ma’am gives place to an angelic smile.

She seats herself at the instrument, after placing the condemned urchins in a row within reach of the hoisting apparatus or ice-tongs, she smiles, touches the snatchbrake with her foot, and the doomed urchin is launched into—if not into eternity, he will think so before that hand lefts up on him. With a smile playing over her features, she works her tiny feet the avenging hand descends and the old machine works as though endowed with life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It will only take a moment of treading to make any ordinary boy sorry he enlisted, when he can be dropped and the next can be snatched. A whole school can be spanked up in fifteen minutes, if the teacher is anything of a treader. Vermont Gazette 31 October 1874: p. 1
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Unread postJun 28, 2020#219
Here is another electric spanking machine usage put to rest. The closer the source the less likelihood of embellishment. This is from the same state and less than 150 miles apart.

1906 bottom right hand corner.

https://newspapers.library.in.gov/cgi-b … etpdf=true
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Unread postOct 02, 2020#220
This fifth grader, Hattie Berquest, is so happy she is not a boy. Can you wonder why? The fact that she even thought of a spanking machine was what was in happening in Minnesota. With such an imagination you would think she would have received a better ranking than honorable mention.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 85%2C4389/

https://books.google.com/books?id=Z5LNA … ne&f=false
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Unread postOct 07, 2020#221
Perhaps the earliest death recorded by a spanking machine was in Iowa in 1899.

The gentlemen proved themselves to be a fraternal order through the ordeal.

Frank Focht RIP.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 61%2C7908/

https://www.wellredweekly.com/index.php?article=114
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Unread postOct 14, 2020#222
This 1912 spanking machine warranted follow up. Local newspapers provide interesting details. Professor Duff Abrams infamous wife spanker. Next posting is a letter from his wife Leone

https://idnc.library.illinois.edu/?a=d& … one+Abrams+——–

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Unread postOct 14, 2020#223
Mrs Abrams could give Marcel Proust a run for his money by the length of hers sentence.

https://idnc.library.illinois.edu/?a=d& … ams——-

By the time the story leaves the home newspaper the story takes on a life of its own.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 54%2C4194/
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Unread postNov 10, 2020#224
Little doubt there was an electric show and the name of the company was named but as we have learned its existence is not what we question but its implementation. These novel electrical devices elicited a lot of imaginative patents that became sources of humor.

1907 Chicago.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 84%2C6807/
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Unread postDec 02, 2020#225
There was never a lack of imagination when it came up to instruments of correction at the turn of the century on both sides of the pond.

Page 8 First Column Second Article.

https://idnc.library.illinois.edu/cgi-b … ed——–
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