Bearing a grudge….

Okay new thread from your favourite French serving girl AKA J.
Although I realised that some of my school whackings were more for the benifit of the teacher than for disciplinary reasons I do not bear a grudge and would have no trouble meeting any of them again.
If thats how they got their kicks and it kept us all in line then San faire rien….
What do you lot think?

To be honest I can’t say if I bear a grudge or not.
The teacher who slippered me twice got turned on by it,
you could tell he got real enjoyment from it.
So really the way I look at it, he was the one with the
problem. But if I came face to face with him now, I don’t
know how I would react.

Okay new thread from your favourite French serving girl AKA J.
Although I realised that some of my school whackings were more for the benifit of the teacher than for disciplinary reasons I do not bear a grudge and would have no trouble meeting any of them again.
If thats how they got their kicks and it kept us all in line then San faire rien….
What do you lot think?

Mimi and Paul, an elderly English teacher at my school used to belt the daylights out of kids in my class for minor mistakes. He had a reputation for this activity.

He did it once too often and got decked for his trouble.

I waas in his class but I got on well with him. Perhaps it may have had something to do with the fact that the kid who decked him 5 years earlier was a good friend of mine and I told him that.

I was punched in the stomach by a teacher when I was 14. Eight years later I returned the favour when I saw him drinking in a pub. Discipline is one thing, abuse is another and that was my reason for evening the score.

Okay new thread from your favourite French serving girl AKA J.
Although I realised that some of my school whackings were more for the benifit of the teacher than for disciplinary reasons I do not bear a grudge and would have no trouble meeting any of them again.
If thats how they got their kicks and it kept us all in line then San faire rien….
What do you lot think?

Hi Mimi

Careful with those flies, you’ve had trouble with those before, haven’t you!

At the grammar school in Essex I went to in the late 40s/early 50s most of the masters slippered – sometimes 4/5 boys a lesson. It was so common that none of us felt we’d been picked on which didn’t leave any real feelings of resentment or injustice.

The exception for me was when I was caned for the first time at age eleven. I had been playing truant for a week so I well deserved it and to be perfectly honest the old headmaster could hardly have whacked me any softer – it took to the 4th whack before I even answered that it had hurt (he asked me after each tap!) The next two were about the same as number four so only half had even been felt!

The strange thing is that for years after all I wanted to do was to get my own back on that poor old bug..r! I think it was the fact that it was the silence of his study, the way I had had to bend over across his knees for it (which shows you how hard he could bring a cane down in that position!) and the general solemness of the occasion.

I’ve got over it long-since and as he’d be about 105 now I doubt if I’ll ever meet him in a bar somewhere, but if I did I think I’d have to apologise for all the blood-thirsty thoughts I’d had about him for so many years!

Okay new thread from your favourite French serving girl AKA J.
Although I realised that some of my school whackings were more for the benifit of the teacher than for disciplinary reasons I do not bear a grudge and would have no trouble meeting any of them again.
If thats how they got their kicks and it kept us all in line then San faire rien….
What do you lot think?

That was all a bit dodgy, still if a bit of perving saved abit of pain……
Was his name George by any chance?

Okay new thread from your favourite French serving girl AKA J.
Although I realised that some of my school whackings were more for the benifit of the teacher than for disciplinary reasons I do not bear a grudge and would have no trouble meeting any of them again.
If thats how they got their kicks and it kept us all in line then San faire rien….
What do you lot think?

I’ve no idea, Mimi, thinking about it since though – I wouldn’t be surprised!

Okay new thread from your favourite French serving girl AKA J.
Although I realised that some of my school whackings were more for the benifit of the teacher than for disciplinary reasons I do not bear a grudge and would have no trouble meeting any of them again.
If thats how they got their kicks and it kept us all in line then San faire rien….
What do you lot think?

Last week I attended the funeral of an ex Chelsea teacher (96yrs). At school I never had the pleasure, or not, of being in his class, he taught woodwork, something considered of no use to girls He also ran the after school table tennis club which proved hugely popular, the bats for this activity were constructed in the woodwork class, on occasions given to an additional use on the trousered seat of some miscreants

He, like many of his day , was a teacher, who bought out the best in a pupils ability, highly respected, but one who tolerated a no nonsense attitude, for those that fell foul of him and others alike, no one held a grudge over and done with, an accepted part of the education system on both sides.

Similarly I don’t hold a grudge against those who physically punished me. The only anger that buried deep, were to those teachers that took great delight in constantly ridiculing and belittling me, and to this day, have never worked out the criteria some had, towards the few chosen few handed such treatment, they made what should have been happy days ones of misery, they never did then or since gained my respect.

Ketta

Okay new thread from your favourite French serving girl AKA J.
Although I realised that some of my school whackings were more for the benifit of the teacher than for disciplinary reasons I do not bear a grudge and would have no trouble meeting any of them again.
If thats how they got their kicks and it kept us all in line then San faire rien….
What do you lot think?

I can understand your feeling of resentment Ketta, towards the teachers
who ridiculed and belittled you, I also experienced the same treatment
myself, from a few teachers.
It erodes your confidence. But I firmly believe teachers who did/do this,
do it because they have such a low opinion of themselves it gives them
a feel good factor.

Okay new thread from your favourite French serving girl AKA J.
Although I realised that some of my school whackings were more for the benifit of the teacher than for disciplinary reasons I do not bear a grudge and would have no trouble meeting any of them again.
If thats how they got their kicks and it kept us all in line then San faire rien….
What do you lot think?

You took the words out of my keyboard:-)
Its as true in adult life as in school, the world is full of inadequates who just love to knock someone who is having a go,

Jeffrey Wisner Utter grudge. Flogged severely in 1864 by a false allegation of a girl at the age of 16 Avenges it in 1904. Tore the school down piece by piece but the teacher is already dead and the girl is a mother of a large family. Whether he will have the pleasure of getting even with her is in question.

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Wisner Utter was known for his bees.

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hi I got spanked at school as I have already posted on numerous occasions I harboured no grudges against the first two teachers but the third one I did for some reason his spanking hurt most  I think he got killed in a climbing accident I was told a lot of years ago and I know this sounds really heartless but I could find no compassion at all

i always bore a grudge anytime i was punished as a child and didn’t give up my people to kill list of junior high bullies until i was in my mid twenty’s… i most certainly would not have ever stopped bearing ill will toward someone who used scp on me, that i am absolutely sure of.

Resentment is like drinking poison and expecting the other guy to get sick.

no its really isn’t at all

I hate starting new threads, but I got bored after wading through the first few pages of the Forum Index looking for a suitable home for this item.  It’s therefore going here.  I shall dedicate it to my old friend former contributor Jay aka Mimi aka Jack who left us at the time of the Great Schism but took the trouble to contact me on occasion thereafter to warn me of the imminent demise of this Forum.  That was some years ago.  

I think Mimi was also one of those who very kindly advised me that I was the prime suspect  in the Great Hacking Scandal  which followed the Great Schism, when another former contributor’s US Department of Homeland Security authorised email account wasn’t hacked by an expert hacker in order to gain access details for a not-so-private Forum, which wasn’t hacked either.  If that was Mimi then I appreciated the tip-off, but the accompanying predictions about being hauled across the Atlantic in chains, and perp walks and such, followed by a likely sentence of 50 years to life on each of several counts were just a teeny bit over the top.  However that might have been somebody else.

Anyway Mimi started this thread, and expressed the view that he bore no grudge against teachers who’d administered SCP to him.  He did however bear a very considerable grudge against one of our then contributors who at some stage way back in the dim and distant past of the Forum had claimed that many years before as a young teacher in an antipodean boarding school he’d been required to cane a few boys on the bare for serious misbehaviour.  It therefore seems fitting to put this theatrical notification here.

Our thousands of intellectual and theatre going UK readers and contributors will doubtless be flocking to the Royal Court Theatre, London to see this production.

The play was discussed this morning in a radio program whose name escapes me.  The plot is apparently that a very popular teacher looking forward to imminent retirement with accompanying grateful thanks from school and students after 45 years dedicated service suddenly finds that life has become a nightmare.  Students have discovered that when SCP was legal and practised at the school he was a nominated caner.  Now his house and family are under siege by angry mobs of students and the prospect of that big jolly retirement fest at school is rapidly receding.

The persons discussing the production didn’t seem to have much sympathy for the play’s hero (or should that be villain).  Questions about the morality of persecution for actions quite legitimately carried out many years ago when a person was only doing their job were quickly escalated to the “well that’s what the Nazis said at the Nuremberg trials isn’t it?” level.  Personally I thought there was just a teeny teeny difference in the depth of crime and culpability.  But then I’m never going to be invited onto arty radio programmes! 

well it all exists on a continuum, from nazi death camp guards in the 40s, to doctors in canada who preformed medical experimentation involving intentional undernourishment of native american children at residential schools, to the present internment of over a million uyghurs in reeducation camps in china, to caning teachers in the 60s and 70s british schools, to teachers paddling kids in the american south right now… they vary in degree not in kind in my mind.

Hello dane,

Naturally I expected a response from you and would have been most disappointed had there not been one.

However I’m puzzled.  Does your order of listing above indicate that you regard  teachers paddling kids in the American south right now as less culpable than caning teachers in the 60s and 70s British schools please?

no i originally ended with the 70s then i thought i needed to include the present so i sort of stuck the uyghurs and paddling in at the end, i would consider the present paddling to be somewhat worse because there is more data about the harmful effects of cp… also the uyghur situation is quite murky, it may well be worse than the canadian experimentation on native children i just don’t have enough information to be sure.

Hello dane,

Thank you for your qualification.

I am interested to know how you select events whose perpetrators you consider worthy of eventual retribution should it be possible.  For instance I had not heard of the  internment of over a million Uyghurs in re-education camps in China, which may indicate a lamentable lack of knowledge of international affairs on my part.

However I have heard of the apparent genocide directed at the Rohingya people in the Rakhine  State of Myanmar.  The mass slaughter of the civilian population in Syria, aided and abetted by The Syrian State and Russia on one side and the UK, the US, Turkey and other parties on the other.  The war in Yemen aided and abetted by Iran on one side and Saudi Arabia and its allies on the other, and in which the casualties have again largely been the civilian population. The ……..

I could go on and on, but what would be the point.  Do not these and similar events so far eclipse in enormity the sins of paddling or caning teachers at any time that the latter are simply not worthy of retrospective retribution, actual or contemplated?

another lurker i would have to say no they don’t eclipse anything. just as there is a current i myself sometimes swim in that calls all its personal enemies nazis to intensify their misdeads by association with the nazis their is another current that uses the nazis for the opposite purpose… they compare any other evil to the nazis and find it wanting…. not as bad as the nazis so not worth worrying about. while i will admit both are problematic i find the second more troublesome than the first. the first is just someone allowing their passion to make them hyperbolic in their rhetoric, the other is trying to justify most of the evil in the world by taking the very worst example and denying the importance of everything else becauser its not THAT bad.