There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Feb 21, 2010#2
There is a strange blend between morality and eroticism when it comes to corporal punishment. It was impossible to discuss the erotic qualities in the 1930s here so spanking was disguised as punishment. The mainstream press bought into it before the end of the age of the innocence. We cant let people know our darkest secret and if that was their darkest secret it indeed was an innocent age. Consensual adults who engage in said activities should not have to bear those burdens in the 21st century.
Here are two examples to augment the 1939 newspaper article from the most recent post on this thread. It really may belong under CP lighter side (Spencer Plan mentioned there) but I think it may warrant a more serious look on how it may apply to school corporal punishment. Sadism and eroticism are not totally divorced from the administration of corporal punishment in some cases and hopefully with accountability and transparency can ameliorate that was lacking when I was a student. The cartoon was based on the Los Angeles Times story.
There were 59 wives of spanking husbands and one was being formed in Sioux Falls SD a community of only 80,000 in 1940 census and perhaps the last place you would think of but you never know and certainly the inspiration for the cartoon. BTW sorry about repearing a link in the first post.
http://www.spencerplan.org/doctrine.html
Las Angeles Times story
Cartoon based on newspaper story
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Feb 21, 2010#3
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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After the second world war the punitive aspect of spanking lessened and it became wrapped up into either a threatrical piece or romantic comedy and it became more overtly sexual but still very tame why Hollywood kept its focus on the family. I think these links are more appropriately posted here as a recently digitilized 1940 newspaper story. Pub Deb was the precursor to the anti Nazi films that were going to inundate Hollywood.
There is also the picture of Doris Dudley with Skipper (Butch Jenkins) who surpassed the fame of her mother in the last two links. The first article involes the Spanking of Brenda Joyce who played Jane in Tarzan.
Hollywood’s world revolves so far from the states that practice corporal punishment that there are sections of the United States that whole parts of the country don’t even see corporal punishment administered in film. This was true during the days when paddling was more frequent and even more true now. Now spanking is shown as overtly sexual as recently posted program entitled “Weeds” and the biggest scandal a Hollywood star can be caught in is to get caught spanking their child.
1940 Article I
Doris and her son
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Feb 22, 2010#4
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Corpun did a section on spanking sells but I think it needs to be seen in the context of this thread end of the age of innocence. For sure the pictures are familiar but until Google started publishing popular magazines the images were only found in private collections. I noticed Dean Clarke obtained a photo of a caning captured on camera in Australia. It is said that all meaning is context derivative and I think seeing these ads in the context of a magazine gives the reader a better understanding of the times.
During WWII American women took the places of men and ads showing woman as weak or stupid wouldnt fly. The other entries were around 1939 to 1940. There was no true recovery from the Great Depression of 1929 until the war. The men came home with jobs and the women were taken care of financially so the role of housewife became imaged in Hollywood and Madison Avenue. Rock Hudson and Doris Day showed the glamorous side in Pillow Talk and Desi Arnez and Lucille Ball showed it on the small screen in I Love Lucy where Lucy was on the receiving end from her husbands Cuban temper.
The question really is when did the eyebrows start being raised or were they considered naughty to begin with or when were they seen as erotic. These ads were lighthearted for sure and unusual but not outrageous hence such ads were relatively scarce. When did women realize the sexists assumptions or did they already know? IMHO Van Heusen was overtly sexual and was giving a message to the man if you want to enjoy getting pleasure from your women dress to attract her. The coffee commercial was more a message to women saying keep your man happy.
Milwaukee and Pittsburgh papers are providing the same service as Life Magazine is doing and Im sure as more newspaper archives go online thing more relevant than corporal punishment in the home will come to light that are more germane to our estimable Forum. If I keep surfing I might find a good wave. Im sure through digitalization the same will happen to UK publications. And perhaps have already had?
When it comes to school corporal punishment with the genders these sharp delineation of roles may account for the sugar and spice vs. the rustle and tussle factors. In the south boys were more on the receiving end than girls prior to “woman’s lib” than after. IMHO human nature is human nature and their behavior didn’t change but the perception that both genders were deserving and would equally benefit made the disparity lessen. I don’t think the girls are being spared on account of the gender but what behavior the school considers paddle merit. Offenses and sanctions relating to things like tardies and skipped detention that both genders are likely to do lead to parity. I absent smoking from the discussion because relatively speaking that has not shown itself to be not that significant of the portion being paddled.
May 23, 1949 Spanking sells shirts Life Magazine. It would be a red head that gets the spanking.
Van Heusen shirts
August 11, 1952 Spanking sells coffee. I like the vintage black and white better than the color.
Chase Sanborn coffee
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Feb 27, 2010#5
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Today every spanking filmed is to satisfy the “spankos”. Were the producers and directors aware of this when they did these publicity stills? Were they comic? Were they meant to attract viewers who knew thay would prove titillating. I think I’ve identified the era of the age of the innocence as a few years shy of 1970 which was of course the time when people felt more comfortable to talk about their sexuality openly. Spankings began to leave the mainstream media. These two links cover the golden years of cinema spanking and in not a salacious manner. The sexual element has not been part of the anti-CP zealot campaign just think of Paula and the bathing suit area arguments against CP and gender restrictions with high school age students more so than the lower school ages.
Corporal Punishment on the Screen
Corporal Punishment on the Screen
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Mar 04, 2010#6
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Whoever runs this adult site has access to some of the best material online. “American Magazine” ran from 1906 to 1956. The days of a photo photo showing a teenage girl being spanked with spanking tips offered are long gone.
The days of hard copy stacks and microfiche have given way to digitilize stories. Maybe it will come up soon for it is a recently posted photo. Granted teenagers were often turned over their mom’s knees but doing stories about it ended more than fifty years ago. As spankings become less frequent at home they become less acceptable in school. States that are most adament against CP like Massachusetts are the ones pushing for laws against spanking in the home. A picture may tell a thousand tales but I would still love to read the story. It has to be out there somewhere of its in Yahoo. Happy lurking.
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Mar 06, 2010#7
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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I think it is sad that after more than sixty years Tufts college wont show an on stage spanking from Kiss Me Kate. Since this is a colege production the kids are consenting adults and may be even the oldest spanked in school albeit in a not in a disciplinary context. Wilson in the Promise Land would qualify. Boy did those poor girls get spanked hard. I wonder what they would say about that 40 years later? Besame Catalina in shorts matching her pumps. Real classy. They ought to spank Barbara Wallace Grossman. I would be first in line.
http://tuftsjournal.tufts.edu/2009/11_1/corner/01/
http://www.tuftsdaily.com/kiss-me-kate- … -1.2043115
Besame Catalina
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Mar 06, 2010#8
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Oh dear CP and the age of wankabating……
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Mar 06, 2010#9
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Hi American Way. I hate to be pedantic (hell no, I just love it really! ) but in your third link above it is not:
Besame Catalina in shorts matching her pumps.
Besame Catalina just means ‘Kiss me, Kate’. The lady in the ‘shorts’ and pumps (do pumps have high heels?) is presumably intended to be Kathryn Grayson, the female lead, being spanked by Howard Keel, the male lead.
The poster may have been just a teeny touch imaginative as regards the spanking. Here’s a link to a picture of the couple actually engaging in the activity in the stage production. And here’s a link to another poster.
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Mar 06, 2010#10
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Thanks I’m aware of that. The reason why I mentioned Latin blood was that the poster exposing her buttocks (presumed to be wood line) in such a provocative manner I have not found with the exception of this Spanish language poster. The show is more than 60 years old and it was as I mentioned before during the Senator Estes Kefauver era when Betty Page waited in the lobby of the Capitol hearing room to testify (she wasn’t called in) and the shows profiteer privately bemoaned the fact that Kiss Me Kate was drawing crowds and money beyond his pittance without censure. I don’t know anyone other than dancers or call girls who would color coordinate but I haven’t been looking for bottle green patent leather pumps either.
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http://www.sondheimguide.com/porter/kiss01UK.html
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There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Embrasse moi, Cheri. Not as remarkable because the skirt color coordinates as well. In another not remarkable because it’s French. wink.gif Seriously is a coincidence? The movie was released at the same time (or very close to) and so would the posters. Oui? Si? I’m trilingual. No? happy.gif I’ll probably find it in English and disprove my own theory. My inner child is inquisitive. happy.gif if I live up to my reputation of being an ace searcher. I would love to have this poster. Up to $100.00 in good condition. You’re on.
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The Motion Picture Agancy was very clever in making movies that escaped the censors. They had to be B movies that weren’t shown in most movie theatres. They were the staple of drive in theatres the only place you could be alone with a girls. If they named children after Ford and Chrysler and Chevrolet you would be hard pressed. You couldn’t ask for a rubber at the pharmacy but a
prophylatic. Children were born nine months after July and August. Catholics took the oath for the Legion of Decency where they swore off dirty movies that meant no Jayne Mansfield (Paris Hilton of that day) or Carrol Baker with Baby Doll. That was a big no/no.
Oddly enough back then girls were just as attracted to these B movies as boys and still so on college campuses. We called them make out movies. Westerns were for guys and romances were for girls. TodayI gues kids call them “chick flicks” They get tired of watching DVD on their flat screens. It looks like she is being whipped with an electric cattle prod on zoom or is that suppose to represent pain. Movie posters are the rage for college dorm walls. Wrong side of the heart is a great poster site.
I learn so much about the UK so I hope you don’t mind me in my anecdotage.
http://www.wrongsideoftheart.com/?s=pro … submit.y=8
http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/106773/ … s/overview
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Apr 03, 2010#15
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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During the golden age of magazines we had some of the best art from illustrators. Stockbridge MA even has a museum for Norman Rockwell the famed illustrator of the Saturday Evening Post. 1937 women had won their hard fight to vote and were rocking the boat. Men were taking matters in their hands and trying to tame them. Fools. There was nothing sleazy about spanking. Perhaps we are over assuming salacious motives of those who administer corporal punishment today. Liberty Magazine was beloved in its day. The nostalgia briefly brought the magazine back to life in 1971. Google has them online and I wouldn’t be surprised if they tackle the entire inventory as they have done with others.
There was an elegance to illustrations that has been lost with the end of the age of innocence. Many have become frameable and displayed as true pieces of art in museums and finest homes. Another example of pre-war values that came tumbling down after the women took the jobs of the Marines, Army, Navy and Air Force that served our nation and help save the rest. Thank you to those who served on both sides of the pond. May we forever remember them for the liberty we share.
Shake Well Before Taking, by Walter Brooks, art by Michael. For Men! A story of a girl who needed taming, and got it.
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Elegant illustration of taming of a woman
Liberty illustrations
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Apr 11, 2010#16
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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In any coverage of a sporting even a sportswriters or casters would never be taken to task for using in an analogical manner the word spank in reporting events until the late eighties. Maybe it’s because of the awareness of people who had an interests recently or maybe more knew but were ashamed to say itn but one thing for sure is no sportswriter under 30 appropriates that word into any report fully aware of its meaning in other context. Two images of the changing times. The nostalgia of the innocense still draws me. There is nothing wrong with kinkiness (last to argue against it) but the lines blur and IMHO it’s not as much fun. The alluring naughtiness of a Betty Page (RIP) may never return.
There is no bigger rivalry than between the Red Sox and the Yankees in baseball. This bottom image appeared in almost every newspaper in the Fall at the time of the pennant race. Contrast that with the image found in the last link before.
http://gawker.com/5040597/post-sportswr … ll-players
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May 12, 2010#17
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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In the digital world advice columns surrounding mothers spanking their grown daughters. Newspapers needed a picture to grab a reader like the illustration found in the bottom link. It does not look like a mother spanking a daughter but some vintage porn right out of Betty Page. The girl’s hat makes me believe it comes from the middle 1950’s but I may be off by a few years either way.
Mother and daughter conflicts were often resolved through corporal punishment. Prior to 1960 without birth control many girls stayed home until they were married. Not being allowed to stay out late meant more and more time at homes where generational frictions arose. Record players, radios and televisions were outlets within the walls. Girls bedrooms wall were covered with TV and movie idols It wasn’t very long ago that only the brides only pictures appeared in the newspaper. Whether one laments or rejoices in these societal upheavals they are a fact of life. That one generation acts outraged at the next and forgets the lessons of the past never ceases to amaze me.
N.B. there is no slipper among the instruments of correction shown here on this on this side of the pond, can anyone explain to me why? Since this involves a mother and a daughter a belt is not shown. Fathers would be more prone to punish with discretion at a distance asking their daughter to lie flat.
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May 13, 2010#18
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Instruments of corrections vary from place to place, fot example, we have the ferule on the continent, the tawse in Scotland, the strap in Canada, the ferule in Europe, and of course the ubiquitious paddle here and the slipper there. Where these customs originate, do we have some historians among or distinguished contributors that can help enlighten me and I hope others that may be as curious? The paddle, arguably, is rooted in slavery. Would the slipper be a carry over from the home like the hairbrush here? Scotland had its tanneries, England, its ever handy birches, Malaysia, its native rattan and the in the states the hickory stick or switch, so there has never been a lack of instruments of correction to employ on miscreants’ palms or bottoms.
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AlanTuringCodebreaker
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May 13, 2010#19
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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In English schools, “the slipper” bore no relation to the carpet slippers one would wear at home. It was a rubber-soled plimsoll (a forerunner to today’s trainers, but definitely low-tech).
Pupils would refer to this piece of apparel as “a gymshoe” when putting it on their feet, but as “the slipper” when it was being applied to their bottoms. Why? I’ve no idea.
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holyfamilypenguin
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May 13, 2010#20
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Would a slippering usually or always be applied with the miscreant over the knee, hence, more for the younger students for obvious logistics reasons? It could be given I suppose to embarrass and older student but that would not be common or would it?
Would our eminent scholars Dr Dominum or Dean Clarke care to weigh on this?
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hcsj44
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May 13, 2010#21
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Well, I’m neither Doctor Dominum or Dean Clarke, but I have experience and memories of “the slipper” or, as Alan Turing points out, the gym shoe.
It was used frequently at my junior school as a classroom punishment, never over the knee, generally over a desk in the front row of the classroom. If you were sitting in the front row, it was quite disconcerting when one of your classmates was violently propelled towards you and pushed over the front edge of your desk, sometimes scattering books and papers.
At grammar school, it was used by the PE master regularly for any misdemeanour at least up to the mid teens. You were required to bend over in a “touch-toes” position.
It wasn’t done to embarrass, but to draw attention dramatically to who was in charge and to make you wake up and pay attention. The impressive sound of gymshoe on bottom was a key part of the procedure.
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May 13, 2010#22
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Hi hcj. You say of the slipper:
The ‘in-classroom’ procedure at my junior school was similar, victim bent over one of the front row desks facing into the class. But I can’t believe you ever sat in the front row! In my junior school that penalty was reserved for the naughtiest children to keep them close under the teacher’s eye, with a gradation of behavioural standards through to the back row where sat goody goodies like me.
You also say:
Once heard, never forgotten!
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JennyBr
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May 14, 2010#23
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Hi Another_Lurker
…with a gradation of behavioural standards through to the back row where sat goody goodies like me.
I was the teachers’ pet they kept me in a cage at the back of the class.
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May 14, 2010#24
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Hi Jenny. Very good indeed! It is sad that only our more clued up readers will be able to appreciate a good joke.
Seriously, you may not have been a goody goody at school, but at least your exploits, whilst sometimes having a painful outcome at the time, have enabled you to provide considerable interest for, and speak with authority in, this estimable Forum. Those of us who sat at the back of the class seldom accrued anything other than the most trivial personal experience of CP and must needs stand aside (possibly holding open the door ) for those like you who have ‘been there, felt that’.
However, in view of the current topic in this thread, it may be worth recording that my female classmate in Junior School whose very severe slippering I have recorded elsewhere was, like me, an occupant of the back row. So the goody goodies didn’t always come through unscathed!
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May 14, 2010#25
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Hi Another_Lurker
Those of us who sat at the back of the class seldom accrued anything other than the most trivial personal experience of CP and must needs stand aside (possibly holding open the door ) for those like you who have ‘been there, felt that’.
You know how much I disapprove of anyone holding a door open for me just becuase of my sex. You should also know that, if my hands were occupied in carrying something (or busy trying to massage the sting out of my freshly caned bum. ) I’d be most grateful for your assistance – by holding the door open that is.
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Another_Lurker
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May 14, 2010#26
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Hi Jenny. You said:
For one glorious moment there I thought you meant something else.
Seriously, my reference to holding open the door for you does not render me culpable in this instance. I referred to myself as needing, in an implicit metaphorical sense, to:
Clearly therefore I would be opening the door for you not because you were a woman but because you had vastly greater experience of being on the receiving end of school CP than I had. Surely you can’t imagine that I’d dare to even mention old fashioned chauvinistic sex based door opening can you?
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Declan
May 14, 2010#27
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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As others have mentioned the slipper was never used across the knee. It is odd , as Alan Turing points out , that it was only called the slipper when being used for corporal punishment. For instance if you forgot your gym shoes for a PE lesson , the teacher would say ” Where are your gym shoes boy?” and then tell you you were going to get slippered , but would then find a gym shoe, but refer to it as a slipper. Strange , but true,
The slipper was generally used on boys ( and the odd girl or two)standing and bending and I don’t remember the touching your toes request. Some boys did touch their toes without being asked. I seem to think I was a half bender , apart from once when I did get it over a desk.
At junior school , I remember two girls getting it , a very mild slippering it should be said , one of them barely bent over at all , but the other did a full touch your toes bend
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May 14, 2010#28
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Boarders, mainly prep-school were often made to wear elasticised plimsolls, referred to as house slippers, could be where the expression “slipper” originated from. The same footwear was used for PE where they were refered to as plimsoles.
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May 14, 2010#29
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Hi Another Lurker ,
Seating. Yes, always a hot topic. In junior school a bit like you I sat at the back, but I had been ‘advanced’ in class years so when I hit the top of the school early , of course I was allowed to develop ‘responsibility’ , well sort of !
In my later school years however seats were strangely often allocated alphabetically . So unfortunately with my initial being where it was I ended up normally as far away from the door as possible usually under the window right by the teachers nose!
However in the chemistry laboratories you normally sat so that the ‘brightest’ were positioned on the back bench. Why? Because that was within reach of the more dangerous chemicals etc., which it was assumed you were intelligent enough to know not to touch! As most masters couldn’t cane Dr. D’s elegant solution to this problem would have been a non starter!
In to craft and PE well frankly I would have preferred not to have a place of any sort allocated at all!!!
As to opening doors and the like, when we visited the girls school the Headmistress invariably found some job which required lifting or some such facility which she felt unbecoming for her demure young ladies to undertake !!! regrettably she knew my name which meant in such circumstances you couldn’t play the three wise monkeys – blind , deaf and dumb!
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May 15, 2010#30
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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I find myself completely in agreement with Jenny (maybe because I am married to another Jenny perhaps)
You should treat people as people not as a particular sex. I would hold a door open for anyone if the situation demands its.
OK we have to look at why boys do not perform well at school but you don’t do it on a way based on gender.
At the school I am a governor of every child is monitored for progress and you deal with the child based on his or her needs not on their gender.
Over the years I have written a number of fictional stories based on a secondary school where the head practised equality. All lessons were open to all pupils and the cane was the only form of punishment however the rule was that any two pupils misbehaving received the same punishment no ifs or buts and sex played no part in the decision.
The only time I feel that punishments could be different is where their is a physical condition and even then there would have to be a very good reason why the other party could not be punished in the same way eg two physically inpaired children with different conditions.
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May 16, 2010#31
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Hi Prof.n. My apologies, I overlooked your post above. Had I ever encountered a ‘desk allocation by initial’ scheme I too would have certainly finished up in the front row, though whether at the door or Master’s desk end of the row would have depended on which end the allocation started from.
Interestingly, at my school in the chemistry lab the dangerous chemicals were kept well under the eye of the Master at the front, and I normally sat on the front benches to get the best view of any demonstrations. The fume cupboard was also at the front. Likewise in the physics lab the front benches offered the best view, and the physics Master was extremely good entertainment value!
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Hear hear, if only!
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Jul 11, 2010#32
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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With Google the archives of small papers from Pittsburgh and Milwaukee report stories from St Louis that I’m sure caught editors attention. This story would come straight from the racy magazines of the Betty Page days but would not involve a blink of the eye for a national newspaper. There was a day when the girl had to pay for a man’s philandering. She was aghast at the behavior of a young girl of 20 with a 52 year old man. A fight over a man I can see but a spanking? That could only happen over 80 years ago when corporal punishment ruled the day for even older teens or in this case 20.
IMO twenty years from now a prom paddling will probably be a headline considered as equally bizarre in the south as well as in the rest of the nation. It’s tilting a windmill to think otherwise. Renee is not a fan of secondary school corporal punishment where options of suspension can be a matter of choice as opposed to the youngsters Renee paddles on the middle school level. Many posters, without speaking for him, prof n, here part company with Renee on the age issue feeling that the older students can benefit from it more.
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Jul 13, 2010#33
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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I forget who said the “past is a different country.” It is surely true.
In the 60’s in America, young wives and girlfriends expected and wanted to be spanked, otk and by hand. No implements, please. It was discussed quite openly and was part of a “male dominated” marraige, which was the norm. Oddly enough, girls were not paddled at school.
If anyone is interested, I could provide some details. I can’t believe it now, but I have spanked several girlfriends and one wife.
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Jul 13, 2010#34
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Equality of the seventies led to more proportional gender CP usage but far more girls were struck in the sixties and harsher as were boys. Numbers are attested to by official reports but severity anecdotally.
The early to mid sixties is what I would refer to as the end of the innocence when quite frankly the sexual pleasure aspect became more openly acknowledge were real. It started with the sexy secretary spanked as a way of deriving pleasures denied by wives that were involved in consenting behavior. The artistic license predated the open discussion as in adult cartoons usually with a bosomy girl dangling with a tight dress and a vacuous facial expression in the over the knee juvenile position that afforded lap to lap intimacy.
Courtships involving an expression of affection where a guy could say since you have let me spank you have surrendered control like a child to a parent and neither a brother or acquaintance was a factor. No can touch your bottom but me. An exasperated male with a woman acting as a spoiled brat or irresponsible manner would give a man paternal control but only when surrendered. It was less a role play but an act of submission. In fact proposals followed that sealed a woman’s fate as submissive as in playing traditional roles outside the bedroom. I believe this happened more on film and stage than real life. It was more a function of male fantasy.
There were times when a woman may have enjoyed venereal pleasure but it may have been an undercurrent and not readily spoken of but not so today. Sexual perversion is often involved but in can be playfulness like birthday spankings in the office and roughhousing at parties outside office settings like picnics.
After the age of innocence how do these images look that are adult cartoons in comparison. The sexual harrassment laws from the “Betty Page days were far away but not as far away as the sexual barriers that were 40 years in the making. The Fifties and up to the mid Sixties the juvenile girl over the authoritative man was a pretense for a man to meet his need without considering a woman’s feeling one way or the other. We run far afield but I do think the sugar and sweet exemptions of the earlier period had a lot to do with more schoolgirls of coed secondary (post-pubescent) escaping paddling here and perhaps caning over there. We may not be a country or eons a part because human beings are human beings everywhere and that cannot be said of boys and girls.
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Jul 14, 2010#35
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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My first wife hated being spanked, finding it humiliating. I am sure she had no sexual pleasure from it. Yet she was totally in favor of “our system” of disciplinary spanking.
The answer to the paradox was that she knew a “male dominant” mariage was the ony kind that would work for us, and she knew what a willful person she was. She said the “system” “put me in my place and kept me in line.” She had even discussed it with her mother, who approved. She also said the “system” ensured that she was always aware of my feelings, since she would lterally feel it if she upset me. She was usually spanked a couple of times a month, always otk and by hand.
With the coming of women’s lib, she demanded an end to the “system.” I even offered to make it reciprocal, but no.
The maariage began to disintegrate, and we divorced.
My new wife was someone who was perfectly suited for equality. There was no need to discuss a system. In fact, if we had one, it made more sense for me to go over her knee. The marriage has lasted 25 years. My old wife has been divorced more times than I can recall.
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Jul 14, 2010#36
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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My wife understands me and is aware of my postings including the Courage to Submit entries. Submissiveness was a part of her parents of blessed memory relationship and was special to them and has read and respect the plan. Our relationship is not based on that model but is based on total honesty with forbearance especially her of yours truly. I was involved in high school in a relationship that involved playful spanking but nothing beyond that. In the sixties it was considered “naughty” but not “kinky”. You weren’t consider a pervert in the age of innocence. About the time of Blue Hawaii movies no longer saw spanking as disciplinary but as something dirty and by the seventies scenes faded from the silver screen. The Dorothy Spencer Plan can be found in the Search but this is a modified plan.
Modified Contemporary Consensual Disciplinary Spanking
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Aug 19, 2010#37
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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This sensual school corporal punishment shot was from 1925. The twenties brought freedom for girls. Her hairstyle and her summer frock with stockings seem from that era. It’s more a pointer than a cane. The blackboard seems to be oddly placed and she appears to be a minor. What math problem is she working on? Are photos, such as these, commonplace? Where do you think it came from.
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Aug 19, 2010#38
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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My guess is that 1925 sensual picture comes from Germany, maybe others would like to venture one? The lack of formality of attire and an absence of the cane leans me in that direction. It would stand outside the frequent Victorian depictions drawn for centuries.
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There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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A look back in theatrical history through its Golden Age brings one back to the age of innocence of corporal punishment. Phyllis & Zena Dare after decades apart rejoined in 1940 shown in the second link, with a different cast in 1941 the show was raising money for a noble cause in the first link. Phyllis played the invalid soundly spanking her rival while sitting in her wheelchair. The third link shows how lovely they looked. They died six weeks from each other. Zena played Mrs Higgins in the renowned My Fair Lady.
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Aug 29, 2010#40
In August 1950 a magazine (Campus Love) with a cartoon scene of college age girl being spanked without censure by a teacher. It would be considered a big ho-hum in the time around I was born. Caveat is that sites such as this can be portals to adult content site. Synopsis and comics.
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Aug 30, 2010#41
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Campus 5. Age of Innocence the sequential comic drawings.
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Aug 30, 2010#42
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Sep 03, 2010#43
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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It’s a remarkable history of what was passed off as innocent has become everything but that today. The day in which a public spanking can become a crucial part of movie is rare and when done so it raises the ire of many unless within the context of mutual enjoyment. It’s no longer fun when it seen as perverted. That was not even on the radar screen when George Murphy pounding 53 times on Brenda Joyces backside. No actress or agent would permit that in mainstream movie today nor would it not raise an eyebrow or two.
Public Deb Number 1 in 1940 has politics in mind with Finland and Russia mentioned. It gives a snippet from a POV of the USA toward Communism before our entry into the war. This was the era of the Silver Screen that Ronald Reagan came from. After WWII Hollywoods stars were black listed for any association with Communists. The second link mentions Finland and Russia. This spanking scene just scratches the surface of the hysteria of that day. A young waiter pounds home Americanism. That says it all.
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http://www.fandango.com/publicdebno.1_v128336/summary
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Sep 05, 2010#44
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Already by 1940 with Public Enemy Number 1 the movie moral code prohibiting what the censors approved or disapproved had been established. RKO had series of musicals from 1933 to 1939 involving the greatest pair of dancers in the history of the cinema: Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire. The censors certainly wouldn’t allow a girl like Ginger Rogers flitter about in lingerie. Norman Foster has quite a knock out punch. The title Professional Sweetheart was changed in the UK the less incriminating Imaginary Sweetheart. Spanking sold tickets otherwise they wouldn’t use it so often for promotion. This was the case for Shirley Temple’s modest spanking as opposed to Ginger Rogers a decade earlier. I’ve posted the nine minute plus version for It’s a screwball romantic comedy that I, not surprisingly, liked. Billboard picture, review, video, promotional photo spanking, video photo spanking follow. With the usual caveat, the last two links are from adult portal sites with both modest photos.
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Sep 09, 2010#45
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Girls who enjoy bareness should be spanked. Can you imagine Life Magazine printing this letter? To no avail I tried to find the July 9th 1945 she mentioned, however, that was the bathing suit issue. Here is the link for the July 30th issue near the time of the dropping of the atomic bomb.
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Sep 09, 2010#46
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Life July 9, 1945 I found it! Baring most prominent curves.
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Nov 02, 2010#47
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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1956 was a time of great control over the media and morality. This was an end run where you could attract the young with attractive “actors and actresses” and with a moral lecture in the last 30 seconds. The woodshed was threatened to become a part of the judicial system as in “Individualized justice: fifty years of juvenile court and probation services in Ramsey County, MN”
The film may not be your cup of tea but it a part of our cinematic history for weal or for woe.
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Nov 02, 2010#48
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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In spite of the fall of the Russia from this situation comedy thinks nothing of playing a scene like this hearkening back to the sixties. They have stayed in the age of the innocence. He hits hard to the amusement of the guests and the 14,000 viewers during the last ten months. She is fearful but there is also a little bit of I’m getting what I deserve expression on her face maybe.
Claudette Colbert is one of the few “flapper actresses” that never changed. She hid behind a mask and with a limited range of characters she played her parts beautifully. She is stilling growing strong today. She never stopped looking like a flapper. Gary Cooper or any man for that matter that went up against her got the short end of the stick even with her over his knee. She was always too much of a handful.
She could take it or give it when it came to spanking. They don’t make them like that anymore. The thirties and forties infantilized woman in order to slip a spanking scene through the censors. Claudette came out with her dignity intact. That didn’t happen here. She was able to wear two hats as a professional woman and as a stepmother something not all together unfamiliar since the Second World War.
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Feb 05, 2011#50
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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The thirties and forties were not pleasant times to be a communists as this New York Times article can attest to. It was not a pleasant time for Brenda Joyce (Me Tarzan – You Jane fame) She endure a few dozen visible and as many or so audible and with six takes it’s a good thing that George Murphy was a gentleman and held back. It’s love at first slap. You could fool me. A poster add and a story of the scene follows the news article.
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Feb 09, 2011#51
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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An American TV show Peoples Choice from April 1958 episode entitled Sock’s Lifesaver shows a rather harsh spanking even considering the girl’s age.
Sock agrees help out his former Marine commander by babysitting his daughter for a week. Sock agrees help out his former Marine commander by babysitting his daughter for a week. The girl is schooled in the martial arts but dutifully submits to corporal punishment and expresses her gratitude. That may happen in real life but not so often with a freshly scorched bottom.
The task of spanking a teenage daughter didn’t always fall into the hands of the father. It should be noted that one of the reasons why same gender paddling prevail is for a reticence for a number of reasons for a man to touch a woman’s body that is not his own. Dr Dominum has a preference for same gender caning and has caned both genders. In 1958 the sounds of a spanking was not something one felt a need to hide unless it came from a heavier hand of the law. The carry over of in loco parentis from the home to school, as I’ve compared to a membrane, probably has something to do with opting in or opting out of paddling here. It may decrease suspensions if a child could be assured of same gender paddling although prof n experience recently here would seem to indicate it is sufficient to offer the option and few asks for a same gender paddling. Why a big deal for Renee to be a designated paddler? That’s surprising where more than just administrators can paddle. A student may say the paddler depend upon the office and gender is secondary but teachers may want to hand off the as Dr. Dominum refers to it (an onerous duty) to someone else.
Can you imagine a spanking of such duration and intensity though sans instrument and through protection, nonetheless, occurring today in real life with a non-related adolescent girl (however defined) with DSS breathing down your back?
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Feb 13, 2011#52
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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The end of the age of innocence has been misinterpreted by a lot of people. As recently as 1980 there were reports of CP being used in some English schools, even though it was officially banned in the 1970s. However I am not sure if these bans applied to the private system. Can anybody enlighten me on this?
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Feb 20, 2011#53
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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This man eighty years later would be behind bars for caning a fourteen year old girl for something as trivial as pelting a pea against a window; that ranks up there with slinging a rubber band at school. Even with the repeated and explicit orders to the contrary most teachers would not have gone that far and I bet a few teachers (not just the anti-CP zealots) had reservations on that one. If it was slung me that would be a different story.
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Feb 21, 2011#54
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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I am slightly curious to know when people on this forum first realised an interest in CP. For me, the earliest age my brain registered an awareness of interest was at age 3. This interest is not and has never been sexual in nature. Like many other fascinating subjects, the reason behind the fascination ie. the neural substrate behind dopaminergic release or locus coeruleus activation (if these processes occur in one’s case) cannot be clearly rationalized, which is a fascinating subject in itself.
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Feb 24, 2011#55
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Andy Price morphed one of Principal Weatherbee (without an s) as in above story. Coincidently he is shown paddling both Betty and Veronica under the Classics from comics. August 12, 2010 at 8:18 am.
Ironically he imitated pin up artist Dan Decarlo, the drawer of Americas favorite high school comic book. Post war drawing with innocence and seduction became a genre in itself. They were as common as calendars in an all male office days. Birthday spanking can bankrupt a company. Here is an example. CLICK
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Here is De Carlo not many years after the war. The diciest he is in the below cartoon. The GIs came home they said after Paris it would be hard to keep them on the farm. A school yard tease in the playground in my day was: I saw London. I saw France I saw so and so underpants. Boy am I old!!!
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Feb 24, 2011#56
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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This drawing was DeCarlo’s for they were all clothed. The rural south is where it is more likely for spankings to occur at home and paddlings at school.
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Mar 11, 2011#57
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Alice White in Naughty Flirt. 1931 pre-code days and how to treat ultra-modern girl (flappers). Parents (more often mothers) asserted their authority by spanking their late to leave home adult daughters and from what I can gather
far fewer girls were subjected to school corporal punishment on their bottoms than today. Women were “wooed” by an assertive male (c.f.) London Review.
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No lingerie, sun-back bathing suits or feminine allures are plusses in small town newspaper ads in conservative areas of our country.
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London Review with observation of this American film.
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It’s just one of my hang ups but I don’t like corporal punishment, this is punishment and not foreplay, as shown by this snippet. That’s been online forever in a half minute format an in poor quality. A French adult content site.
shows it in context where the movie ends with the spanking and the screen message. One must keep in mind we were early into the talkies. It’s a portal for adult material but the video is not an adult one.
If you want to see the last six or seven minutes to get the background simply Google “Alice White Fesseur” and voila, may be someone can show me to get the URL off the site and go directly to youtube mode.
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Mar 11, 2011#58
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Just a quick follow up background and short video on the man crazy flappers. What’s amazing about this is how 60 years ago people would not believe there would be such an interests. The second link review summarizes my feelings watching over 10% of the film on Fesseur. Pick out someone who is 80 and would they have thought spanking would interests so many? They do now or at least many of them. For whatever reason when I try to transfer the you tube information from Fesseur to you tube I get the malformed message.
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Mar 12, 2011#59
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi American Way. In your posts immediately above you asked:
And you said:
I’ve had a look, but I’m sorry I can’t help. The video is being streamed from Google Video. Old fashioned streamed video could usually be linked to a URL by studying the source of the page containing it, but this is the new fangled stuff! If we have a streamed video specialist amongst our extensive readership he/she may be able to help, but it’s not my area of expertise.
The reason you are getting a malformed video message from YouTube when you right click in the viewing screen and select the URL is that the URL generated doesn’t contain an actual video address and thus YouTube can’t link it to anything.</div>
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Mar 16, 2011#60
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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This scene in 1967 raised few eyebrows and certainly would not have highlighted whether Glen Campbell applied corporal punishment to his youngsters as it did Matt Damon. I was 16 about the about the age of the actress Kim Darby and if I acted as much as a brat that would not be eyebrow raising. Hailee Steinfeld was an order of magnitude better of an actress if reviews are to be relieved. Such are our times that the movie was a more of a smash hit here than expected. John Wayne will always be the Rooster Cogburn and not Jeff Bridges in my mind. I’m not schlepping but does the UK have Netflix, it is an excellent source of hard to find films? I’ll let you know what it is like after my free trial. I’m enjoying my Amazon Kindle. How is that being received?
Here are scenes from 1967 and 2011. Hailee wore pads something that wouldn’t even be asked of Kim. Such are the times.
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Mar 21, 2011#61
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Double-standard spanking? N.B. The ubiquitous hairbrush. Plastic brushes are the rule today but the wooden back of a mothers hairbrush won many wars of the will with errant daughters. Teenage girls were always conflicting with their mothers but mothers always won. Havent things changed?
The graphics were primitive but cute. Im repeating the second link, an image taken from the same series (Teenage Tempest) column by Ursula Trow. It was taken from scholars corner.
Only a handful of newspapers carried the column and more and more newspaper are going pay-view. Can someone please post the picture of the girl and her mom?
The story has a point worth considering. Did society demand more conformity for girls than boys, thus setting the girls up to be rebels? Has that any application for today? Think about who writes the student code of conducts and what rules are harder to keep by gender?
I love the apprehensive look on the girl, as her eyes seem to dart to the clock, her last hope. She doesnt belong to her boyfriend she belongs over my knee. She is my little. The finger summons and the chair blocks her, there is no escaping. Its the moment the courage to submit.
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Mar 21, 2011#62
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Let’s try the second link again. Is she getting spanked for smoking? In my day they had candy cigarettes. She i getting her butt smoked on both ends.
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Mar 21, 2011#63
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Upon closer examination of the teen she could be putting on lipstick?
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Mar 21, 2011#64
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Why does it seem that in the fifties more teen girls were spanked at home than boys and vice a versa paddled in school?
Probably as many as the alphabet but here goes.
A. Woman were rarely in positions of leadership beyond the primary schools so if youngsters were to be sent to the principal’s office it would be a man less prone to paddle a girl.
B. Woman stayed at home and were less patient and daughters were more trying all day.
C. Spanking deterred girls more.
D. Higher expectations were placed on girls at home than in school.
E. Rules in school were easier to conform to at home than in school.
F. Men applied other forms of corporal punishment on boys that did not involve the intimacy of an over the knee spanking.
G. Girls were not spanked more at home as it would seem by reports
H. Girls needed it more.
I. Girls were more tolerant to pain.
J. Girls liked it more.
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Apr 16, 2011#65
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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The end of the age of innocence has not come quite to an end as attested to in last Saturdays Brazilian Soap Opera (Morde Assorpa). The over the knee (McClintock) “palmadas” seems to be the position and instrument of correction.
The soap operas in the various areas of the world reflect plausible scenarios. Search parts of the world today and you will find places where school corporal punishment is practiced. Certain cultures are not in synch with the the dominant media. This is certainly the case where a group like Unlimited Justice brings in models that had no idea paddling still goes on in 19 states. The media acts as if these places don’t exists. As I have often noted people cannot separate fetish from good old fashion discipline. While countries are abolishing CP in the school it will be a lot harder to invade the privacy of the home and long standing tradition.
Television and movies had spankings where the male as the head of the household or as the dominant partner spanked (juvenilized) the mature woman, maintaining patriarchal roles. The age of innocence is over in the USA but not where gender differences are part and parcel of a culture. Men still spank women in Brazilian soap operas as attested to in last Saturday’s episode. There is no teetering among the observers that would make it look like a part of a love scene. It’s always, at least on mainstream telenovela, seen as an outlet for male anger. It certainly attracts a fetish interests in the sites that highlight them. This will take time for someone to find and will no doubt be picked up by you tube.
I’m sure there is the same prurient interests but to a lesser extent for there are remnants of a male dominated society still present for dramatizations are based on plausible happenings. Spanking as a prelude to sexual intercourse between consenting adults and is part and parcel of USA and by extension much of North America and Western Europe with our CNN culture and that goes beyond fetishism.
Gender role article is followed by a not to infrequent (as in the sixties here) “semi-consensual”, as not with a stranger, in the other links. I’m sure men are enjoying themselves carnally while relieving their anger for human nature is human nature but culturally men get away with it there but never here. Machismo has decreased as feminism has increased with the end of the age of the innocence. The first link delves in a scholarly fashion about gender roles in Brazil. The last is the video and second (translatable) background for the soap opera.
I don’t know much about the actress (third link) that is spanked but she is a looker.
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Apr 20, 2011#66
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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This is called domestic abuse if it were truly non-consensual yet in the sixties in the midst of liberation a headline like this warranted the attention of sixteen newspapers and none of them tabloids. The cameras were there because it was stowaway story and I believe the spanking was not scripted but was spontaneous otherwise I don’t think it would be considered so newsworthy in the mainstream press. Such were the days. It is well worth noting that Australian English smacking is used for spanking so considering the girl’s origin it was a very clever to us the expression in the story. Is smacking used in the UK? Spanking in the UK would never be used for caning but it is used for paddling. I take it over there spanking would mean over the knee and not bending over. By the way, capri pants was the style of my high school day and made the lesson more painful than jeans. Such were the days. At 20 was he saving herself in the early days of contraception. Such morning (here) musings.
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She was probably carried over to the adjacent chair but there is a scripted quality at some point. The below site is from an adult site but I’m sure taken from the mainstream media.
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Apr 23, 2011#67
There is a strange blend between morality and eroticism when it comes to corporal punishment. It was impossible to discuss the erotic qualities in the 1930s here so spanking was disguised as punishment. The mainstream press bought into it before the end of the age of the innocence. We cant let people know our darkest secret and if that was their darkest secret it indeed was an innocent age. Consensual adults who engage in said activities should not have to bear those burdens in the 21st century.
Here are two examples to augment the 1939 newspaper article from the most recent post on this thread. It really may belong under CP lighter side (Spencer Plan mentioned there) but I think it may warrant a more serious look on how it may apply to school corporal punishment. Sadism and eroticism are not totally divorced from the administration of corporal punishment in some cases and hopefully with accountability and transparency can ameliorate that was lacking when I was a student. The cartoon was based on the Los Angeles Times story.
There were 59 wives of spanking husbands and one was being formed in Sioux Falls SD a community of only 80,000 in 1940 census and perhaps the last place you would think of but you never know and certainly the inspiration for the cartoon. BTW sorry about repearing a link in the first post.
http://www.spencerplan.org/doctrine.html
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Sometimes a story gathers little attention such as the judgment of Magistrate Mackenzie Matheson in Vancouver that later becomes a part of a bigger story. Where you can spank your wife is not a simple matter of anatomy but geography as well? Where can you use a hairbrush on her anatomy? Again kudos to Pittsburgh for picking up this story and fleshing out the details. After I google news it I realize that it had been posted in a fetish oriented site beat me to it. Maureen O’Hara thought John Wayne was spanking Stephanie Powers and Wayne spanked O’Hara. Why does that matter?
If a man could spank both wife and daughter there is little doubt that it would not be a big deal if a male teacher or administrator struck a female miscreant. prof n recently said that few girls in the school requested a female paddler. Perhaps they’re comfortable if a woman is present. It made, according to the news story, Amber Page uncomfortable not to have a woman present. Was it the embarrassment factor or the feeling of being sexually exploited in high school. It certainly is a no brainer today not to have a person of the same gender present in light of false allegations? IMHO it should not be an option that a professional adult female be present when corporal punishment is administered. When did that gender consideration enter the discussion. Perhaps it was the Senate hearing of Shelley Gasperhson or maybe the high profile of the Supreme Court allowing it.
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May 19, 2011#68
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Reform school corporal punishment on parole of song bird. The comeuppance of a bratty teenage girl (Susanna Foster) who thinks she is better than the other students and roommates, when in fact she is the most in need of reform leads to a padded spanking. She was on parole from reform school, always stigmatized by being in stripes, and got her spanking lesson at music camp. The movie showcased exceptional musicians like Patricia Travers (enjoy last you tube video). NY TIMES metaphorically spanked her even harder than in the film. The spanking is unforgettable and without protection (first link) would be more so for her. As often is the case in addition to the actual spanking the cast acts it up for promotion.
NY TIMES: Susanna Foster plays the role in a wretchedly clumsy manner, and no one else in the cast does a great deal better. There are several young musicians in the picture who play exceedingly well, but the best to be said for them as actors is that these children should be heard and not seen.
Susanna soprano qualities will extend beyond her spanking to the Phantom of the Opera.
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May 30, 2011#69
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Just a quick follow up on Susanna Foster, she had a rapid rise to fame with the Phantom of the Opera 1943. She certainly paid her dues with the Hard Boiled Canary role as 15 in 1940 as these stories attests.
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Jun 05, 2011#70
My first wife hated being spanked, finding it humiliating. I am sure she had no sexual pleasure from it. Yet she was totally in favor of “our system” of disciplinary spanking.
The answer to the paradox was that she knew a “male dominant” mariage was the ony kind that would work for us, and she knew what a willful person she was. She said the “system” “put me in my place and kept me in line.” She had even discussed it with her mother, who approved. She also said the “system” ensured that she was always aware of my feelings, since she would lterally feel it if she upset me. She was usually spanked a couple of times a month, always otk and by hand.
With the coming of women’s lib, she demanded an end to the “system.” I even offered to make it reciprocal, but no.
The maariage began to disintegrate, and we divorced.
My new wife was someone who was perfectly suited for equality. There was no need to discuss a system. In fact, if we had one, it made more sense for me to go over her knee. The marriage has lasted 25 years. My old wife has been divorced more times than I can recall.
Medbury says column has an interesting take on domestic abuse. I’m sure it’s tongue and cheek but it does reflect somewhat the mores of the times.
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Jun 13, 2011#71
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Corpun featured how corporal punishment was used to sell. Obviously, by the first and third link previously changed the times have as well. 20 retakes is a tad egregious fro these college freshman
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Jul 05, 2011#72
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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The age of innocence began in the days of the flappers during the time of the silent films. Spankings of female starlets even back then were used to promote films.
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Ritzy like many films of the day may sadly be lost for good.
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Her funny pigtails shown in Everybody’s Acting. There is no flapper that didn’t cry out to movie patrons than one who looked forward to one.
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One once said of the starlets of the silent movies that they had faces then. No words truer can be said.
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Jul 10, 2011#73
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Spanking bad woman drivers. That the man could think he could get away (June 15, 1930) without 30 days sentence June 27, 1930 was what makes this the age of the innocence. I’m told Saudia Arabia is the safest country to drive in.
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Jul 13, 2011#74
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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One scribe mentions that pictures are sexists because man is always spanking woman. But as one searches Google stories, first and foremost, they record are suits or complaints brought by parents against the corporal punishment of their daughters in school. It is as if juries and judges were less tolerant to school corporal punishment for girls. This applies to the end of the nineteenth century through the middle part of the twentieth. Boys were on the receiving end more often and it seem to raise as many eyebrows. The website, Retrospace (referred once before) shows just how sexists those days were. Given the fetishistic interests there is little to wonder these receive the most hits within his blogsite.
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Jul 13, 2011#75
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Boys were on the receiving end more often and it seem to raise as many eyebrows. Meant seem not to raise as many eyebrows.
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Jul 21, 2011#76
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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While the silver screen adapted stories to satisfy the predominantly male fantasy of control of the adult female child (lover or wife) with the first link Miss B. Agnes Lane was one thespian of the Edwardian theatre that maintained her dignity a star. That’s just the kind of prima dona patrons want to see spanked.
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A comment was recoded saying : “Miss B. Agnes Lane, the Chicago actress who refused to be publicly spanked is all right. She is a tall girl according to the old adage, it is a long Lane that has no turn.”
What’s that. End of Act I page 25 in the original.
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Don Caesar’s Return found a lovely and willing candidate in Florence Kahn. The show lasted from September 1900 to November 1900 or 87 spankings. Like Kiss Me Kate do over from Taming of the Shrew spanking a prima donna was a show stopper but not Ms. Lane who seems to have just dropped off the planet from google searches. I wonder what happen to her suit?
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Jul 22, 2011#77
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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As is so often the case when searching the links a story comes up that is too rich not to be shared as in A Parrot and Dog Time above the elegant thespian who lacked the courage to submit.
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Jul 25, 2011#78
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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As is often the case the pendulum never stays in the middle. Innocent fun? Sexual perversion? Sexual Harassment?
It looks like some old fashioned fun that one would have to do now at their own peril.
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Jul 25, 2011#79
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Jul 25, 2011#80
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi American Way. Please listen to me. I am not persecuting you, I am trying to help. There is absolutely no point in titling a post ‘Better luck with this link’. If the links don’t work for you when you test them in ‘Preview’ (you do test them, don’t you?) they won’t work for anybody else so there is absolutely no point in posting them.
In this case the site concerned is a secure site. That’s what the ‘https’ means – the final s = ‘secure’. Now if it’s a secure site usually you can’t just expect to get to pages on it. Normally you will need to have a membership or a privilege or to have paid a fee before you can visit pages on the site. You may have that membership or that privilege or have paid that fee, but the people for whom you are posting the links haven’t, therefore they can’t visit the pages.
As a general rule there is absolutely no point in posting links beginning with ‘https’. There are exceptions, but your last two links aren’t amongst them!
In the case of those links the first bit of the URL,
https://secure.pqarchiver.com/chicagotr … isplay_pdf
leads to a data search site at the Chicago Tribune.
I can go there and select the ‘Historic Articles’ option, which I bet you did, and if I put, say, ‘spanking’ into the search box I’ll get a list of articles. Suppose I select one, lets say:
‘Many Fathers Still Insist Teen-Agers Need Spanking’
from Mar 5, 1964, by Mary Merryfield.
I can see the abstract of the article, which says:
‘THE column on teen-age spanking churned up a wake of mail–proving that the subject still can start an argument. But what surprised me most were the number of fathers who insisted that teen-age spanking is sometimes necessary and who said they prefer to administer the punishment with a strap “or some such symbol of discipline” when family rules are broken or ignored.’
I can see that the actual article is available as a PDF, which I could view in my browser. But if I try to view it I simply get taken to a page where I can buy access to various numbers of articles – in other words obtain a pass.
Now if I had such a pass, which I presume you had, or have, either by purchase or by virtue of Academic Privilege, I could get to the PDF concerned. But there would be absolutely no point in my posting its URL, because other people won’t have a pass, so they won’t be able to get to the page.
All that will happen is that they’ll get annoyed because the links don’t work and they’ll stop looking at any of your links, which would be a pity! So please, think and check before you post!</div>
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Jul 25, 2011#81
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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What I did was preview it and then it disappears. I did know how it worked. You’re not persecuting me. I was trying to help the “paddle research” by looking under initiation affixed to a general category that is in possible to winnow through. Usually I take a word(s) from the abstract and feed it through the newspaper archives online. I do editing for projects (I am gainfully employed) and I like stories that are generally not covered by simply going Google news. If you’re doing historical research it takes great joy being simple Simple Simon and stumping the scholars in their own expertise. At a certain age you become content on same pleasure. I am a very poor typists (draw no nefarious conclusions please) and I find it time consuming to type the contents of the pdf and don’t know how to convey it by any other means. Maybe someone can enlightened me on this as well?
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Jul 25, 2011#82
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi American Way. You said above:
I certainly wouldn’t draw any nefarious conclusions. I am the world’s worst typist. Well over 40 years messing with computers and I still type with one finger!
When you talk about PDFs I assume you are meaning the sort usually found in archives of documents. These are usually just pictures of the document, which can be viewed on screen but can’t be text edited using software like Adobe Acrobat (free version that is, I’ve no idea what capability the full version has these days).
There is a way to get anything you can see as text on your screen into a document you can edit, copy and paste. We have an expert in the process in our midst. Our very esteemed fellow contributor KK is doing it very regularly and very successfully, as his posts witness.
The process is known as OCR, which stands for Optical CharacterRecognition. The OCR program takes a picture of text and turns it into actual editable text. It isn’t quite as easy as that. You have to work out by trial and error what graphics format your OCR program works best with, and what brightness, contrast, colours it likes (or dislikes). But once you’ve done that you can convert pictures of text into proper editable text with a high degree of accuracy.
The odd little error will creep in occasionally. An l instead of an i, or a c instead of an e, that sort of thing. The OCR program works by looking at shapes, and as some letters have similar shapes it can get it wrong. But OCR programs were pretty good when I last used one about 8 years ago, and I bet they are even better now. A quick visual check will usually spot most problems.
KK did give us an overview of how he carries out the process of getting an editable document from a PDF picture on screen. To my shame I can’t find it now. If KK would be kind enough to point us at it, it explains the process far better than I can.
As you are using a MAC the process of getting data off the screen into a graphics file to feed to the OCR program is a little different to that on a PC, where you just press the ‘Print Screen’ or ‘PrtSc’ key. The process for a MAC is described here if you’re not familiar with it. (Note that this URL is a case where an ‘https’ address is OK, because the URL goes straight to the data.) I note that one of the options produces tiff files, which used to be the preferred fodder for my ancient OCR program.
I hope this helps. Shout if you need any help, I’ll do my best, but it isn’t what I would regard as something I’m particularly expert in. Meantime though, once you can do the screen grabs, if you find any REALLY juicy tit bits you can always display them here as pictures. I can certainly help with that.</div>
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Jul 25, 2011#83
First mention of the US school paddle thread, October 23, 2010, 11:12 PM
Many older newspapers were recorded on microfilm a few decades ago and some of these are now available online, free or for a fee. The printed originals were often not high quality (high speed printing on cheap paper) and were probably handled by the public in reading rooms before they were archived. The microfilming of the damaged or fading and yellowing papers was often done in a hurry – there were millions of pages to be done – so produced poor quality images. The subsequent automatic optical character recognition (OCR) conversion of the images to text is often poor which means keyword searches are unreliable.
May 18, 2011, 11:19 PM http://www.network54.com/Forum/198833/m … 311560623/ [edited]
The procedure I use to capture Google News and similar on-screen images of text, as text, is as follows.
1. I open the news item and adjust, if possible, the size of the image on my computer screen so that the letters are about 15 pixels or so, high. (Optical character recognition software may have different optimal pixel size.)
2. I use the Windows 7 Snipping Tool (an improved version of “Print Screen”) to capture JPG images of blocks of relevant text. These blocks are saved as files: Capture1.jpg, Capture2.jpg, etc., numbered in the correct order.
3. I may attempt to improve the contrast and clarity of the images using photo editing software but suspect this does not improve subsequent OCR, at least not with my OCR software. Clear, well formed text converts easily. Poorly-formed, blurred or smeared letters do not.
4. I open the saved image files with OCR software and manually interpret any unrecognized words as the software runs. I save the results as a text file to remove any formatting.
5. I open the text file with word processing software and compare the text with the original, and correct any remaining errors. I format the text so it is suitable for display on network54 using angle bracketed codes as required.
6. I Google names, places and unfamiliar words as required, and add details to my posting if this seems likely to be useful.
7. I then cut and paste the resulting text into my Network54 post.
PDF files may be image only, or image plus text with the text able to be copied or not. Modern word processing software allows documents to be saved as pdf images with or without text. Such images generally work well with OCR.
Increasingly, Google and some archives offer uncorrected OCR text as well as images.
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Jul 25, 2011#84
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Boy rooters spank girls. Minnesotans yak young women across knees. Guests of Great Northern Hotel have the spectacle in lobby of new form of celebration – football enthusiasts make hubbub in all the downtown hotels, driving guests from rotunda of annex and smashing hats freely.
The wildest, noisiest celebration of a football game ever seen in Chicago shook the down town hotel last night. Hats were smashed and furniture broken, as usual, and in addition one party of Minnesota girls was spanked, an enthusiastic party of young men taking the girls across their knees for the purpose, in the lobby of the Great Northern Hotel.
Early in the evening twenty Minnesota rooters took possession of the Great Northern lobby, dining rooms , and corridors. They marched upstairs and down, singing and shouting. Encountering another party of boys and girls from Minnesota, the leader of one side shouted:
Let’s initiate the girls,” and added:
“Girls, it has been decided that each of you be spanked.”
Then he seized a steely blonde, carefully but firmly placed her across his knee, and gave her a rousing spank, then another, and a third. By this time each boy had a girl across his knees, and amidst laughter, shrieks, and screams from the girls and the uproar from the gathered guests, the” first degree” was given.
Then the girls attacked the boys, and in many instances administered a hearty return for the initiation they had themselves received.
At the Annex hats were smashed, and the guests driven from the lobby by the pranks of the rooters.
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Jul 25, 2011#85
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Thank you KK. A superb guide whose URL I have now added to my list of useful references. I’ve been thinking that I ought to crank up my own OCR facilities, just in case I ever need them, and your description is perfect to remind me of what’s involved.
The last time I used OCR was when a friend found a complete list of all the UK’s mountain bothies and howfs, with location data, displayed by accident in a Forum. That stuff is the UK’s most closely guarded secret! The MBA make the Secret Services look like rank amateurs! It was only on display for half an hour, and not knowing how to rip the HTML he presented me with a load of screen grab jpegs which, after conversion to tiffs, the OCR s/w turned into a splendid Word document.
Hi American Way. I commend KK’s post above as a ‘best practice’ guide. You’d obviously have to make adjustments for the MAC, but the basic principles are the same. If you have any difficulties shout. I’ll try to help, and I’m sure KK would assist us if necessary.</div>
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Jul 25, 2011#86
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Jul 26, 2011#87
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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KK your research tools have created a monster in me. Not since I learned how to turn long screen widening links to clicks have I been so well served.
I think journalism has changed a lot over the last century. With the lack of television, verbal descriptions are central. However, in this case a picture tells a thousand words.
Don’t cross this woman. Mrs, Elizabeth V. H. Mansell. I disagree with the author she does look like an ogress. She prides herself in dishing out corporal punishment from girls of ten to twenty one. Heavens forfend what would prof n do with such incorrigibles.
I would be afraid to call her “fat” as understandably, the columnists, Ethel Lloyd Patterson, dances around that so cleverly.
Mrs. Mansell is an active woman, of about forty five. One notices her activity more because she inclines to be heavy. Not “fat,” but sufficiently large and weighty to inspire an initial amazement at the rapidity and lightness of her movements. Her hair is silver white, brushed straight back from a forehead that is unusually high. Her mouth is firm and sensitive, and very thin lipped–as utterly devoid of emotional weakness as it is of humanity. An unexpected uplift at the corners suggests swift whimsical humor. Her blue eyes have never dreamed warm too sweet dreams, for they see too clearly, tinged with the faint mockery of her lips.
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Jul 26, 2011#88
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Domestic matrix. Can you imagine 2 to 18 year olds being punished on the bare skin. The New York Times differ from the one copy – pasted below two sentence with mention of the British, which I’m sure may be an interests to some. What makes the story even more remarkable was there were 100 mothers participating in such a small community. Just as an aside, my father was born in 1914 and the mayor had the right to skip over a rank that was determined by a civil service test only due to moral turpitude. Moral turpitude is not a common phrase now. The NYT account was mentioned in Corpun.
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SCIENTIFIC SPANKING AMERICAN MOTHERS’ SCHEME.
A movement has been begun by a Mothers’ Club, over 100 strong, at Haverford, Pennsylvania, to nationalise and standardise the punishment of children It is agreed (says the New York correspondent of the “Daily Telegraph”) that the discipline of children can best be promoted by corporal punishment, judiciously devised and systematically executed, but it is complained that hitherto American mothers have generally failed to recognize that offences and their punishments should bear fixed or logical relationship to each other.
These Pennsylvania mothers have divided all offences into three groups, thoughtlessness, disobedience, and moral turpitude, and they aim at creating a standard maximum and minimum punishment of some form of spanking that really punishes without injury duly modified accordtng to age It is agreed that all punishment shall be upon the bare skin, and always in private, each parent being allowed some latitude in view of the fact that some children require more than others “Scientific spanking” seems to be the watchword of Haverford’s club, and the effort to work out a scale of punishment as suitable to juvenile offenders commands general sympathy in a country where, as regards native Americans, families are usually very small ind frequently very spoiled In this connection one notes with pride that Haverford mothers contrast the discipline of British children to the disadvantage of American juveniles, and they
suggest that the explanation is that British mothers realise that to spare the rod spoils the child.
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Aug 14, 2011#89
These pre-war shenanigans show how the world has changed in a relatively short period of time (70 years). It’s not a word but I will coin it, the juvenenilizing of adult woman both being chastise like girls has reversed itself dramatically. Freedom to control one’s body extends to reproductive rights that frees woman from the destiny of biology. Both genders prosper when the 1940’s are light years away.
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Aug 20, 2011#90
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Excelsior. Excelsior. Excelsior. 1904 over the knee spanking of high school girls by male principal? Sounds like a fetish scene? Give these high school girls credit for they didn’t go down without a fight. This is not the first time students are mentioned as hissing their teachers to express their anger about a student about to be corporally punished. Another position than over the knee would have served his best interests. He would have had a fighting chance. They were a tad too big to be spanked at least by a man. Wouldn’t you say prof n . Their spunk may have deterred DD from caning farmers daughters Minnesota girls. Principal Booth didn’t have all his buttons to begin with and I am sure he didn’t count on coming out with only part of his beard.
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Aug 20, 2011#91
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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I was able to obtain more information about Miss Butcher and Miss Dennis encounter with Mr Booth’s rawhide from a local paper. Ouch.
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Aug 23, 2011#92
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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A women’s orgy 1913 style on both sides of the pond. For link searchers NYT has eliminated freebies by extending their exclusion policy. Thank goodness for Pittsburgh and Milwaukee, unfortunately, it might be only a matter of time.
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Therefore to treat the indecently dressed woman as though she needed no more than a little kindly advice and a few paternal admonitions is a piece of unmitigated humbug. “What she needs is to be spanked; and it mny be said that she has dressed herself for the occasion.”
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Aug 26, 2011#93
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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The early sixties was before the sea change occurred on so many cultural ways. The most glaring of them being the emancipation of woman from a prolonged adolescence with the accompanying application of corporal punishment. The age appropriateness of corporal punishment has become the object of much discussion of late. What was considered good advice in Milwaukee in 1963 would be ridiculed in other parts of the country. In my neck of the woods Ione Quinby Griggs advice would be as amusing as her name. There was an advice column by a woman with the unlikely name of Ione Quinby Griggs, who gave no-nonsense Midwestern counsel. There is a journalism scholarship named after her. I wonder what the female recipients feel about her?
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Aug 27, 2011#94
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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In Maryland it makes one consider whether the weight difference or whether the sheriff took his coat off would have made any difference. In Delaware it was the bare back and Maryland the bare buttocks that were the target of corporal punishment. The first story was well covered everywhere but I take a measure of pride in enhancing that story with the second link. In order to avoid my oft censured habit of posting things irrelevant may I offer a connection between judicial and school punishment? If you “google news” school corporal punishment” parents are more outraged at that treatment of their daughter than their sons. This also applies to boys coming to the defense girls in the classroom setting. I suspect this has more to do with gender than size. I part company with Jenny in my belief that this is due solely on the basis of nurture and not nature considering its ubiquitous imbalance over space and time. Wanting it to be true is different than it being true.
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Aug 29, 2011#95
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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“My wife has that awful disease, kleptomania.” “Is she trying to dire it?” “Well, she is taking something all the while”
A diminutive delinquent had just been sentenced’ by the magistrate to receive a dozen strokes with the birch. He heard the decision, quietly, and then, turning to the Bench, calmly asked: “Please may I have cocaine sprayed over me?”
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Aug 29, 2011#96
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Rawhide justice. Marvin Philips encounters Miss Baxter and Lu Lu Young. That’s quite a school Christmas party. Good for them.
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Sep 01, 2011#97
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Is it a crime for a principal to spank or kiss a teacher? Is it a crime for a principal to kiss a teacher? Miss Anna Flynn was spanked (April 2008) and Miss Agnes Finn was kissed. They were both pretty teachers and probably one and the same. Who would do that to an ugly one? Curiously Anna didn’t want to prosecute the principal for her spanking. Some girls prefer to be spanked than kissed or so I’m told.
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June 28, 2008
It is assault and battery for a school principal to kiss a school teacher against her will, so a jury decided in the case of former Principal Edward Sullivan, of the Exeter schools, who was charged by Miss Agnes Finn, a pretty teacher, with kissing when she vigorously objected.
She declared he entered her room at recess time, and, throwing his arms around her as she sat in a chair, kissed her several times. She was so angry that she threw a paper weight at him, whereupon, so she told the jury, he rushed back at her, threw himself in her lap, slapped her cheeks, pulled her hair and bit her lips. Two little school girls corroborated her, and the jury ignored the plea of the defense that it is no crime to kiss a school teacher. Sullivan was found guilty of assault and batter and recommended to the mercy of the court.
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Congratulations to American Way, the originator of this excellent thread, and to all those who have contributed to enable the thread to reach 100 posts.
American Way has made a particular request for this celebratory 100th post and, as always if a feasible request is received in time, I have attempted to meet it. For my own protection however, ever concious of the proximity of that virtual conference room and its attendant perils, I feel it wise to say that while Molly Ringwald’s hairdresser might possibly recognise the hair, I am completely certain that the teacher in the picture bears absolutely no resemblance whatsoever to Renee. Phew, I hope to goodness that will do the trick!
And now it remains only to say:
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Sep 02, 2011#99
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi American Way. Ho hum, a splendid find! But where are these proprieties? The ones as in:
‘Bare Buttocks’ occurs almost straight away in the fake ‘reader’s letter’, and things don’t get any better after that!
I would stake a month’s pension (and believe me that means I’m certain ) that C E A never existed. That’s an ‘in-house’ plant by the staff of the paper. It’s been a Newspaper device for donkeys’ years. Get the punters rolling in with some bread and circuses – or rather some nice juicy ‘naughty but in a good cause’ corporal punishment stuff – like that weekly punishment parade at the girls’ boarding school! Fills up the correspondence columns wonderfully. The then female editor of the British ‘Sunday Telegraph’ was doing it as recently as 2006, 90 years later! This thread from the halcyon days of this estimable Forum will enlighten you.
‘The Ogden Standard’ (here’s the front page) from whose Saturday ‘magazine’ supplement the CP article comes, looks highly respectable, just like the Sunday Telegraph. It’s what’s going on behind the scenes that you have to watch! </div>
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Sep 02, 2011#100
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Obviously the bare buttocks appeared earlier but there are times as in 1916 that words like hips are chosen to replace them. There is no doubt bare bottom spanking occurred in the home; it is a whole other matter if it occurred in school. The birching letters to the editors in England were of the same vintage but in this case (Utah) didn’t start a similar reaction. The Martha Stewart of the nineteenth and early twentieth century clearly didn’t approve of others, rare exceptions to the contrary, than parents administering corporal punishment. I am sure the author of this letter is not the kind of person one would let her children near.
It is much more likely that bare bottom shingling occurred in boarding schools than day schools but in all likelihood with some form of undergarment. The letter went without proper attribution and was presented in that manner. Articles like these were not altogether uncommon and the newspaper is publishing a syndicated column that I cannot find in other newspapers.
Behind the scene, you can bet your bottom dollar there was some with a less than salubrious motive. Above the board there were naive people and more so then than now making publication decisions. Keep in mind that Marion was born in 1830 and the article was published in 1916 so she was getting long on the tooth. If this column appears in other papers I would be curious if the illustrator is syndicated. I was amused more by the talent of the illustrator than the author.
Is it Ho Hum? Now? For sure. 95 years ago is another matter. Rare indeed considering the amount of text available in the digital world. An article and an illustration is even rarer than gold in Utah.
Maybe someone can spray a little Molly Ringwald red into the school teacher’s hair and put it in this thread. Then we can find out if TWP southern belles are finding the time to peruse our estimable Forum. Isn’t it about time the person who took me to task about improper capitalization of a term, estimable Forum he coined, to take her to task? Is this a case of gender deferential? More should be expected of her since she has been honored in said forum.
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Sep 02, 2011#101
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi American Way. Touché – at least insofar as regards your last point! But I think I’ll let matters rest. To do otherwise might cause annoyance – redheads can be a little volatile – and the paddle might be mooted. As you’ll have inferred from Renee’s thread there’s now the potential for an elephant in the (conference) room. Further, it might be expecting to conduct the unfortunate elsewhere afterwards! Virtual though the punishment might be, I’m not taking any chances, I’m camera-shy at the best of times!
Tell me, you’re doing a lot of hard graft on these old papers. I assume you know how navigate your way quickly around dates, pages etc. by editing the URL in your browser? Doesn’t work in every case, but it does for those in the ‘Chronicling America’ series. If not say and I’ll put a note in Computing Corner.</div>
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Sep 02, 2011#102
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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The computer corner help is a good idea.
As an instrument of correction it is interesting to see the formation of the shingle into a paddle in the illustration. Trove (Australia); Papers Past (New Zealand) and California Digitalization has added significantly to the Google news and Library of Congress Chronicles sources but is there another source of equal or close to equal value that could assist my research? Perhaps KK you can say which sources among your recommendations have proved the most helpful.
I posted a schoolmarm to tease teacher from a postcard and escaped a trip to the conference room and have gone where angels fear to tread. Hush. And if no one tells her what’s on the thread she will never be the wiser. prof n don’t you go a squealing. Even without the red hair it would make a nice 100th milestone posting. Nothing ventured: nothing gained.
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Sep 02, 2011#103
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Sep 16, 2011#104
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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The Female Animal (USA 1958) is best known for being Hedy Lamarr’s last film. The exotic (Czech) dark-haired beauty brought the full force of the Catholic League of Decency. From confirmation, 12 years old on, the Sisters of No Mercy had us vow against going to dirty movies on December 8th.
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A tawdry scene from her humble beginnings (topless swimming caveat) in 1933 and the beginning of the League. Image then video.
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Hedy Lamarr’s prettiest face one the silver screen with video tribute.
Synopsis of “Female Animal” 1958.
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George Nader (gay) spanks Jane Powell.
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Video: A taste of the Female Animal 1958 in Hedy’s last hurrah.
http://youtu.be/GVBsbOl78Eg
George Nader takes Jane Powell across his knee and gives her backside a brief but firm spanking, much to her surprise
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Oct 03, 2011#105
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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From Italy La Matriarcha 1968 became a mainstream breakthrough in European sex farces. From Sweden came I Am Curious Yellow 1967. Too young (under 21) for adult pictures my prudisg college classmates would never thinking of watching a stag film like some of the guys, so off we went to “art cinemas” that cast a blind eye to our age. Old enough to be drafted but not old enough to drink or go to a titillating mainstream movie, of course poorly dubbed or subtitled. Catherine Spaak taken over the knee of a mainstream foreign film actor, Jean=Louis Trintignant was not even considered risque.
Fetish sites do themselves a disservice with poor quality snippets. Seeing films in context online for free on youtube has been relatively recent. The second link is a high quality photo from the film. Her expression seems to be a combination of pain and relief that he cares enough to discipline her.
Catherine Spaak was spared nudity with the use of body doubles a practice that would be deemed unnecessary now but not during the age of innocence. She took the spanking without a body double (third link) and what a spanking indeed it was at 5:00 minutes into the you tube video. It was not considered the kinky scene in this refreshingly open look at sexual perversion in its day. Spanking is not a recommended manner to propose marriage in 2011. But such were the days of the innocence.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064643/
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Nov 06, 2011#106
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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We often look at the sexual harassment from a position of authority today. Fifty years ago before taboos were put into place girls could use the feminine wiles on young teachers with impunity. Thankfully, that has gone out the window with the end of the age of innocence. So many people have defined 1968 as the watershed year. Flikorna/The Girls a 1968 Swedish film was key work in feminist cinema, presenting the eccentric, often funny and very positive way the three women’s minds work.
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1 … 0601074553
Directed by Mai Zetterling. http://www.flickr.com/photos/truusbobjantoo/2788267401/
A taste of 1968 Sweden.
http://www.finest-film.com/sites/defaul … poster.pdf
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http://youtu.be/U5mw9SGRpaY
Mai was on the receiving end in a film entitled the Romantic Age Naughty Arlette in 1949 in the height of the age of innocence, as a naughty French teen flirts with a married teacher at her finishing school. She was way to old for the part being born in 1925 and going strong. She is spanked with a hairbrush by Raymond Lovell. It is a cute scene with the British formality of a hired man confronting Mai’s lovely rear.
As she appeared as Naughty Arlette.
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http://www.myvideo.de/watch/3296287/The_Romantic_Age
A full 19 years later as a famed director herself she directed a scene herself that was not all that innocent involving Gunnel Lindblom on the receiving end from Gunnar Bjornstrand. Strange coincidence.
http://exinfoam.wordpress.com/2010/11/1 … orna-1968/
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A rare by American standards is the dream sequence where a woman fantasizes about her husband spanking her in a train station above to the applause of the bystanders. Video is from a site previously cautioned. Not an X-Rated piece at all.
http://tanherhide.blogspot.com/2008/09/ … -1968.html
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Nov 16, 2011#107
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Iowa Supreme Court wife spanking.
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Ann Landers writes in response.
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One hundred years ago a jury affirmed that right in East St. Louis. It took them 24 hours to deliberate. You cannot blame her for not wanting to be called a red head. What an insult.
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Nov 19, 2011#108
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Spanking is a cure for all marital woes. Hooch and loafing. A good man is not a pampered dog.
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Nov 27, 2011#109
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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There was a long running popular sitcom television show where a very talented Kelsey Grammar played a radio shrink named Dr Frasier Crane. How many of ours shows are ever seen in the UK? More than a handful of shows come ours in the form of sitcoms. I would not be surprised if the name was chosen for Dr George Crane. A little back ground is in order. In the 1950’s there were 250 newspapers with 10 million readers of the worry clinic by Dr Crane. Almost as prolific as me. He bragged of his farm roots and labeled his advice “Horse sense”. He started a compliment society that the great Flannery O’Connor skewered as Protestant theology. A psychiatrists with child raising advice the opposite of pacifists Dr Benjamin Spock was well received by those who swore by the silent majority of the Nixon era. It was about that time when he was in his late seventies (1978) his retro-ideas had run their course. His funnier moments are when he became a sex therapists as a jack or a jackass of all trades. Not sure if the second word will make it through the censors.
Worry Clinic. Advised with “Horse sense”.
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Dr. George W. Crane, whose passing we mourned here last month, was-in our view-one of the most influential thinkers in the history of American journalism, even though he didn’t know it.
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Shopping list for a perfect spouse. Readers of this estimable Forum should not be afraid of flunking this test. No cheating.
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Professor Pain 1949
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Spank the parents who don’t spank their kids.
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Dr. Crane 1958 Child Psychologists
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Dr Crane Sex therapists 1955
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Hairbrush Ardor. 1970. Quite tolerant for a many of almost 70.
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My favorite of all is the description of erotic hunger.
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1974 Woman want Domination. Talking about orgasms at 73.
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Theologian.
Flannery O’Connor evaluates Protestant theologian unfavorably.
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Nov 28, 2011#110
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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70 years later Hollywood celebrities need some creative judges with spoiled models and actresses like Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan. It is a commonplace to note that lacking a royalty here the nation’s news focuses on Hollywood fallen young actresses. There is a revolving door rehabs for the starlets in with addictions. Some say it’s long over due for visits to prison cells instead. It is interesting to note the headline says spanking while the judge says strapping. Notice also that 70 years later it is always the naughty actress that gets the attention and not the actor. Jerry Lewis expressed sentiments that applied during the age of the innocence.
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American Jurisprudence Zesty Figure on the Bench. From Arabella “Bunny” Hartley to Andy Warhol.
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There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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In 1957 spanking for a fee would not be considered either considered abuse or perversion. Can you imagine a headline like this today. It has to be the same one considering New England, four children and the birth date. Perhaps second husband would account for different name. Bet your bottom dollar she is the one and same feisty lady.
Mrs Frances C. Dodge, age 101, professional spanker, paddle for the older children and with de hands on de bare rump for ten year olds. Died Valentines Day 2011.
Frances was well known for her witty wry sense of humor. Although, she never indulged in smoke, drink or drugs, she still managed to live a full, illness free life.
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There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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I am always the first to admit I am wrong. Did some research. American Way
Lawrence E. Dodge was born 25 Feb 1905 in Newcastle, Lincoln, Maine, and died 28 Apr 1998 in Boothbay Harbor, Lincoln, Maine. He was buried 1 May 1998 in North Edgecomb Cemetery, Route 27, n. Edgecomb, Lincoln, Maine. He was the son of 8. Henry Roscoe Dodge and 9. Mary D. Wyman.
Frances S. Webber was born 28 Jun 1908 in Edgecomb, Lincoln, Maine, and died 11 Jul 2005 in Scarborough, Cumberland, Maine. She was buried 15 Jul 2005 in North Edgecomb Cemetery, Edgecomb, Lincoln, Maine. She was the daughter of 10. Frank B. Webber and 11. Rose N. Pitcher.
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My first wife hated being spanked, finding it humiliating. I am sure she had no sexual pleasure from it. Yet she was totally in favor of “our system” of disciplinary spanking.
The answer to the paradox was that she knew a “male dominant” mariage was the ony kind that would work for us, and she knew what a willful person she was. She said the “system” “put me in my place and kept me in line.” She had even discussed it with her mother, who approved. She also said the “system” ensured that she was always aware of my feelings, since she would lterally feel it if she upset me. She was usually spanked a couple of times a month, always otk and by hand.
With the coming of women’s lib, she demanded an end to the “system.” I even offered to make it reciprocal, but no.
The maariage began to disintegrate, and we divorced.
My new wife was someone who was perfectly suited for equality. There was no need to discuss a system. In fact, if we had one, it made more sense for me to go over her knee. The marriage has lasted 25 years. My old wife has been divorced more times than I can recall.
Spanking legal? Strictly it is not making it legal in these two cases but affordable. They did not have woman judges.
Wife spanking clean. Maryland. 1921.
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He took his wife from bath to give her spanking unethical, unusual, unlawful, unkind said the court. Eleven dollars and forty five cents, please.” Marsch thought it was worth it and took his liberty as a receipt.
POV of Mrs. Walter Ferguson. 1929
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Maryland. 1929.
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Dec 18, 2011#114
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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These are not lower courts but higher ones with some well within our life time.
Wife-spanking ruled bad form May 2, 1941 New York.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=a- … ourt&hl=en
Iowa wife spanking legal. February 12, 1959.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=MA … king&hl=en
March 18, 1959 (to my knowledge the 9 nine married male justices held firm).
Spanked wife seeking divorce case reversal DES MOINES, Iowa – Mrs. Mildred Moffett has asked the Iowa supreme court’s nine married judges to reconsider their decision to deny her a divorce on the ground that her husband was cruel, but not inhuman, when he spanked her.
Ann Landers Advice Columnists not a fan of the ruling.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=hh … king&hl=en
Iowa is of course the state that in January 26, 1938 gave the preveriously reference Wives of Spanking Hiusbands Form Girls’ Auxiliary to Club as found in the well circulated (highest perhaps for this story) LA Times.
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Dec 18, 2011#115
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Sorry about bottom link coming up on screen. I’ll be more careful. Forum Management may consider removing the prior past.
These are not lower courts but higher ones with some well within our life time.
Wife-spanking ruled bad form May 2, 1941 New York.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=a- … ourt&hl=en
Iowa wife spanking legal. February 12, 1959.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=MA … king&hl=en
March 18, 1959 (to my knowledge the 9 nine married male justices held firm).
Spanked wife seeking divorce case reversal DES MOINES, Iowa – Mrs. Mildred Moffett has asked the Iowa supreme court’s nine married judges to reconsider their decision to deny her a divorce on the ground that her husband was cruel, but not inhuman, when he spanked her.
Ann Landers Advice Columnists not a fan of the ruling.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=hh … king&hl=en
Iowa is of course the state that in January 26, 1938 gave the preveriously reference Wives of Spanking Hiusbands Form Girls’ Auxiliary to Club as found in the well circulated (highest perhaps for this story) LA Times.
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Somewhat apropos to this thread. Don’t know where else to put it. It may be a little photo nostalgia for some of my fellow seniors who were of this age in the 1950’s. I hope some enjoy Astral Pax. People are aghast at a student “getting the stick” in front of a class 40 by a nun at the high school. They used a stick not as many may imagine but the thick wooden sticks found mostly in hardware stores. One student was in the service ready to ship out to Vietnam in practically the same year after the incident for talking during an unsupervised study period. Such were the times.
Astral Pax is an interesting person perhaps in her mid-sixties or so I would imagine.
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Dec 30, 2011#117
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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<em>Astral Pax is an interesting person perhaps in her mid-sixties or so I would imagine.</em>
Astral Pax is a man.
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Dec 30, 2011#118
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Christopher Woolford born 1957. He had some horrible experiences with corporal punishment.
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Dec 31, 2011#119
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Dec 31, 2011#120
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi American Way,
What a great find, thank you! The story of my childhood in pictures! But where did you find Christopher Woolford’s DoB as 1957 please? Could it possibly have been 1947, which would make rather more sense. I haven’t found any biographical information, but he says on this page, apropos a photograph of a 1950s Junior Girls’ Class:
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Now corporal punishment at school was pretty common and sometimes severe in those days, as I can attest, but I think being severely caned at the age of one was pretty unlikely – especially as you didn’t start school until age five then! Age eleven would seem more likely, especially as even in those unreformed days younger children in Junior School were often spared the cane.
I have to say that boys being deliberately taken to be beaten, bare bottomed or otherwise, in front of girls as a specific part of the punishment is a new one on me. Anyone have any experience of this or heard of it being used anywhere? Those who doubted the recent report of her bare bottomed caning by Maureen should perhaps note this report from only three years earlier, certainly as dramatic in its own way, and just as contrary to ‘modern’ concepts of what school CP involved.
You say above of Christopher Woolford, Astral Pax, that:
Where did you obtain this information please and were you considering incidents in addition to the bare bottom caning in front of the girls? Certainly a pretty horrible experience, but a single incident. Does he mention other punishments elsewhere? I noted a reference to severe punishments in Irish orphanages, but I didn’t have the impression that he was dealing with his own experiences in that case.
Several of the Junior Schools in my area were segregated in the 1950s, but mine must presumably have been fairly forward looking. Not only was it a mixed school, but it was also a common policy insofar as possible to seat a boy and a girl together in each of those dreadful double desk and folding bench seat units. This was believed then to be a good way of keeping boys under control. It probably was! Combined with putting the brightest or best behaved children at the back and the less bright or naughtier ones at the front it presumably made it easier for lone teachers to manage the classes of sometimes 50 plus children.
The disadvantage of the arrangement for kids like me who were regarded as both bright and good was that if you did occasionally transgress it was a long trek from the back row to the front of the class to be punished, and on the one occasion I made it (forgotten games kit) I can recall feeling all eyes were on me. Curiously, once I’d joined the queue, my one and only slippering didn’t make much impact, and I can’t remember if it was one or two whacks.
I can though recall my classmate from the front row whose PT shoe the teacher used boasting for some days afterwards that he’d supplied the punishment implement. I think that part of the classroom regarded mine as a significant downfall and I got quite a bit of teasing!</div>
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There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Phillip Howard had a hard life so sorry for the misunderstanding so put Christopher Woolford aside.
There are 560 photos in Astral’s photostream of mostly school age youngsters of different eras that may prove of interest to a large range of people here. This picture from my previous post happened to be one of them and is referred to as that person’s class. That made me think female gender. Astral writes: normally boys had to report to the Headmaster after assembly for punishment – public caning during assembly did happen – but rarely. Is that person referring to boys as they as opposed to us? Not sure about gender so may be male or may be female.
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Here is another post of interests to our estimable Forum. It could be posed but again I am not sure.
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Why is this yank digging up these pictures.
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Dec 31, 2011#122
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Dec 31, 2011#123
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Dec 31, 2011#124
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Astral Pax’s comments have a consistency from a date POV prior to a 1967 birthdate. Try to determine her gender from her comments about the photos she personally identifies with. Phillip Howard is in the link below. That’s something I should have explained. Putting aside Christopher Woolford is that he may very well be the collector and gatekeeper of the photostream. Another_Lurker these are conjectures and not meant, to elicit comments that a sensitive person like me could consider abrasive. I think you said you took note of this about me some time ago. e.g. WWI photo that I clearly knew was outside the 1967 birthday frame. I understand it is a photostream collage. I readily acknowledge my shortcomings, such as I leave omissions and may not be as clear but I have always provide prompt clarification. I am not looking for an argument (heavens forbid a punch up) or an apology for that matter. I know you hold me in high regard but sometimes I find a gotcha sarcasm that I have mentioned before. Perhaps I need to work at being more thorough and clearer. P.S. There is a tag for navy blue knickers but not bottle green in the photostream. winning a race. I take note how through the years Paula’s bathing suit areas have shifted but color differences do not matter to me as if I don’t have my fixations. There are pictures here that have nothing to do with corporal punishment but that I find artistically iconic. I will soon post one under CP innocence.
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There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Isn’t it amazing? So much going on it that picture and in those troubled times of 1939. The innocence and exhilaration of youth!!! I would love to find out if there is a poster of this image. The Catholic Schools were given a day at an amusement park that was the highlight of the year. You got to see the forbidden fruit or the girls that always looked better on the other side of the fence. Getting a phone number would be like being in heaven. Happy days because of the lack of them.
<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi American Way,
In your December 31 2011, 2:25 PM contribution above you say of this photograph:
You have a good taste in photographs, and you’ll be pleased to know that there are indeed reproductions available!
Anyone who has studied photography seriously will know that image, and it certainly wasn’t taken by Astral Pax/Christopher Woolford. Nor was it taken in 1939 as he claims on Flickr. It was taken by a photographer called Kurt Hutton who worked on the British pictorial weekly news magazine ‘Picture Post’ in the 1930s. This magazine employed some of the best ever photojournalists, including such immortals as Bill Brandt and Bert Hardy.
Kurt Hutton (1893-1960), a German whose original name was Hübschmann, was one of the founding photojournalists of ‘Picture Post’ in 1938. He was a pioneer of both photojournalism and the use of the 35mm Leica camera in Britain. The photograph you admire, entitled ‘Fair Fun’, was taken in a fairground at Southend, Essex, a seaside resort in SE England, and published in a 1938 issue of Picture Post with the caption ‘Crisis forgotten. War scares blown away’.
There may be other sources of posters, but copies of the photograph for display can be obtained (at considerable cost ) from Getty Images, who now own the rights to the Hulton Picture Library, the archive of ‘Picture Post’. The page here has details.
As an aside, if you enjoy that style of photograph you may like this classic by a hero of mine, Bert Hardy, and those who like me were little lads in the 1940s and early 1950s will recall a favourite activity of little girls at the time, illustrated in this picture by Kurt Hutton.
Oh, and BTW, if you’re reading this JformerlyJethro, I’m glad to see that my fellow photo faker and occasional protagonist is still around, even if you don’t contribute here much these days! </div>
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Already by 1940 with Public Enemy Number 1 the movie moral code prohibiting what the censors approved or disapproved had been established. RKO had series of musicals from 1933 to 1939 involving the greatest pair of dancers in the history of the cinema: Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire. The censors certainly wouldn’t allow a girl like Ginger Rogers flitter about in lingerie. Norman Foster has quite a knock out punch. The title Professional Sweetheart was changed in the UK the less incriminating Imaginary Sweetheart. Spanking sold tickets otherwise they wouldn’t use it so often for promotion. This was the case for Shirley Temple’s modest spanking as opposed to Ginger Rogers a decade earlier. I’ve posted the nine minute plus version for It’s a screwball romantic comedy that I, not surprisingly, liked. Billboard picture, review, video, promotional photo spanking, video photo spanking follow. With the usual caveat, the last two links are from adult portal sites with both modest photos.
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Follow up on September 5, 2010 entry. How time flies!!! 2011 marked Ginger Rogers 100th birthday. The Professional Sweet Heart was in 1933 and these pictures taken at the time highlight just how beautiful the girls were and what a shame the spoilers with their codes came along. The second link has a working video of one of the raciest scene of its day. I was amused by what was written under the video. OK, so the sight of Ginger in her scanties is not displeasing. Taunting her new hubby with her unabashed semi-nudity I can get behind that. The spanking well, it was a different era this is really just softcore porn, isnt it, though? kinda hard to defend because its a co-mingling of porn and domestic violence not light s&m play, shes definitely not a consenting party still HEY!
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We bring in 2012 soon in my time zone. Happy New Year.
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Jan 01, 2012#132
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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A_L quote:”Oh, and BTW, if you’re reading this JformerlyJethro, I’m glad to see that my fellow photo faker and occasional protagonist is still around, even if you don’t contribute here much these days! ”
Thanks, still around and interested in this highly emotive subject but the new rules banning fun posts does inhibit my contribution. Let’s be honest, most of my posts were ‘fun’ posts intended to inject a bit of humour into this forum, and which were appreciated by some but obviously not by ‘The Management’.
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AlanTuringCodebreaker
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Jan 01, 2012#133
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Happy new year to one and all! Just to make it clear, following the comment by JformerlyJethro: personally, I’m not against Fun Posters at all (though I’m against Fun Pesters, which is a different matter entirely! )
But actually, I wonder whether it might be interesting for us to wallow in a little introspection (appropriate for this time of year, perhaps?) and ask ourselves why we do post here. Certainly my reasons have changed over the years; and now, having first posted back in 2004, I’m probably relaxed enough to talk about what the reasons were then. Would this be a worthy topic, do you think?
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Jan 01, 2012#134
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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<em>Would this be a worthy topic, do you think?</em>
Yes. Please start a new thread.
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holyfamilypenguin
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Jan 09, 2012#135
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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JformerlyJethro: Have you shared this with us here? This can be found underhttp://flickeflu.com/image/515754621 JformerlyJethro
Having attended a mixed junior school in the 60s I realised at an early age that I enjoyed watching other boys and girls being spanked over the knee in front of the class. I always sat at the front, on the teacher’s right, so I could watch the girls’ dresses being lifted and their knicker clad bottoms and the tops of their bare thighs being soundly spanked as they wriggled to get free. The boys were spanked on top of their trousers and it wasn’t so traumatic for them.
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Jan 09, 2012#136
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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jformerlyjethro there is a thread. skirts lifted in class: fact or fiction
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JformerlyJethro
Jan 09, 2012#137
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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American Way – I have not posted that on this site and although I can use ‘search’ to find individual posts to the thread ‘skirts lifted:fact or fiction’ I don’t know how to find the complete thread?
We were under the age of 12 at that time and I did not know anything about sex at that age so it was not sexually arousing. The teacher I referred to was female so probably not really exciting news.
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Jan 09, 2012#138
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Hi JformerlyJethro
Does this help? “skirts lifted in class- fact or fiction”
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holyfamilypenguin
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Jan 09, 2012#139
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Thanks Jenny. The link was recommended, not to say that you posted there, but for you to read our thread for its relevance.
Getting back to relevance of the thread of CP and the end of the age of innocence, I saw a girl spanked in third grade and it made an impression on me however innocent. It was a different impression than a boy being hit on the hand with the ruler. Boys were never spanked over the knee by the sisters. I sensed it was more excruciating for them by their reluctance to come to the front and by their facial expressions upon being hit but was unaware that this might have been more difficult for them for it was before a mixed group. I cannot speak for an eight year old girl but for whatever reason seem to have a tougher go of it when they got the ruler than the boys. That was my impression but I might be wrong. I was unaware of how unusual, until it was unveiled, how unusual it was for woman to hit boys bigger than themselves with a yardstick on the trousers through high school. When I left my “Catholic ghetto” I learned just how unusual it was and to a lesser extent that can be said of the South in 2012 judging by the fewer school districts and frequency it is employed.
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Jan 09, 2012#140
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi JformerlyJethro,
Hmm, have you blocked that Flickeflu link discovered by my devoted search engine exponent and very esteemed fellow contributor American Way? If so, naughty, naughty! I get a message to the effect that you have withdrawn from the Flickeflu API and your content will not be displayed.
You said above of the Flickeflu data:
Fear not, you are among friends, you don’t need to make excuses here! Myself and a most distinguished fellow contributor to this estimable forum were similarly struck by the shock and awe of school CP applied to female classmates during our Junior School days and have both posted on the experience. There is no reason why you should hesitate to do so!
And you also said:
Easy peasy! When you identify an individual post via the Forum search engine and open it you will be in one of two situations:<ol>[*]The post you have opened is the first post in the thread. In this case if you scroll down you will see all the other posts in the thread listed individually. You can open them and read them one by one, and respond to any of them, but this is cumbersome if you wish to skim through a large thread.
In that case identify the date and time of the last post to the thread. Open the Forum Index Page and go to the index page covering that date and time. This is facilitated by a knowledge of how volumes of new threads have increased over time, but you soon get a feel for how far back to go. A binary chop can be useful. Having discovered the relevant index entry simply open the thread.
</li>[*]The post you have opened is not the first post in the thread. In this case on the top left of the post, just above the header divider, you will see Response to and a title in the form of a link. Click on this link and you will be taken to the first post in the thread followed by a list of all the other posts. Proceed as in 1 above.
Very occasionally you will encounter one of the old threads which for some reason do not behave quite normally. In such a case common sense will prove effective. Usually it just comes down to clicking your way up through more than one of the Response to links.</li>[/list]Hope that helps. Of course often you can use Google instead and go straight to the thread.</div>
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Jan 09, 2012#141
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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I get a message. Less than one hour the change occurred to boot. A big hmm.
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Jan 09, 2012#142
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi American Way,
I was right then! I simply cannot believe that my fellow photo-faker JformerlyJethro, a man confident enough to ridicule Honorary Life Members of this estimable Forum by modifying their photographs to suggest who knows what depraved tendencies, would do such a thing as destroy incriminating evidence! Nonetheless it appears that he has! I am distraught with grief!
No, make that doubly distraught!
BTW what was the picture of, and did you by any chance save it? </div>
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Jan 09, 2012#143
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Hi Another_Lurker
I gave a method for linking to individual posts here. The method includes a step that lists all the posts in the thread as in the first situation you identify.
Open any one of the posts and change the word “message” in the URL to “thread”. This will open the entire thread thus saving you the tedium of searching through the forum index.
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Jan 09, 2012#144
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>A note for the benefit of our newer readers who have followed Jenny’s above link to the ‘skirts lifted in class: fact or fiction’ thread mentioned by American Way.
Skirts lifted in class to facilitate the corporal punishment of girls, and in mixed classes at that, was most certainly a fact in my Junior School, and I have every reason to believe that it happened in a great many other schools. Nonetheless, be very wary of that thread. It probably contains this estimable Forum’s biggest ever percentage of contributions from sock puppets and fun pesters. There are a few genuine contributions, but not many.</div>
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Jan 10, 2012#145
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Jenny
Thanks for the link – that’s the one ok.
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No I’ve definitely not blocked the Flickeflu link and it doesn’t open for me either. When I click on the link American Way posted I see this message:
“This user has opted out of the Flickr API and
FlickeFlu will not display their content.
If you are this user and you want your content viewable on FlickeFlu,
you will need to uncheck the second & third box on this page”
The words ‘on this page’ is a clickable link which takes me to my Flickr account/Hiding from search and I’ve unchecked all the boxes but the page is still blocked
Thanks for explaining how to find a particular thread but it’s a bit clumsy – I hadn’t thought of using Google but that’s easier.
On the other hand my question has brought the very helpful Jenny out of retirement so it’s good to hear from her again
However the thread:
skirts lifted in class:fact or fiction does ask the question:
“I have read a lot of accounts of secondary schoolgirls having the back of their skirts lifted in front of the class for various punishments in an all girls school.
Did this actually happen, say after 1970? I find this hard to believe. Are there any credible accounts of this happening to any of our readers.”
My account of girls’ skirts being lifted does not qualify as it was before 1970 (well up to 1969 actually) and it was at junior school. I can name the school as St Stephen’s School, Worcester and the teacher’s name was Miss Barrs. She is mentioned on FR Message Board by Raymond who says this:
“I have fond memories of Miss Barrs, a kind and caring person as am sure all former pupils of my age would agree.”
He doesn’t mention her spanking pupils over her knee in front of the class but perhaps this aspect of her teaching style did not have such a profound effect on him as it did me.
Another teacher who regularly slapped pupils was Miss Walsh – mentioned by Terry who says this:
“I remember Miss Walsh as a great believer in slapping the backs of the legs – girls and boys – for any minor infringement of the ‘rules’. A good teacher though.”
She would slap the backs of the legs with the pupil standing and the girls got it worst because she would lift their skirts to slap the backs of the thighs right up to their knickers.
Also there was Miss Pethard – mentioned by Albert who says this:
“Miss Pethard was a teacher who taught by fear. The fear of the ruler across the knuckles. But really a caring and nice lady who loved her makeup.”
I do believe that these early experiences may have been responsible for my lifelong interest in corporal punishment and why I find it sexually arousing.
PS No, Lotta (if you’re reading this) – I’m NOT typing with one hand and it DID happen!
(Wish you were here to say it though )
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Another_Lurker
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Jan 10, 2012#146
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Jan 10, 2012#147
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Hi Another_Lurker
No problem. My method, as originally posted, only gets you to the stage where all the posts are listed. It only just occurred to me that, from there, it might be possible to open the entire thread – so I tried it.
I don’t recall any recent posts in that name, so if the above contribution is your first may I say a personal welcome to the Forum. My apologies for taking so long to do it!
Thank you for the above link you have provided to the picture of Astral Pax in 1958. The unfortunate chap seems to have had a bad time of it in 1958!
- Taken on the orders of his Junior School headmaster ‘under escort’ by three senior girls to the adjoining Girls’ School where he was given six of the best with the cane on the bare bottom by the Headmistress in front of 160 girls.
- Regularly spanked on the bare bottom by his ‘baby sitters’, the big girl next door AND by her friend.
Now there are undoubtedly those who might say say ‘lucky chap’ when viewing the story through rose tinted spectacles in the light of adult proclivities. Indeed the ‘owner’ of the page you link hints at just such a possibility, though regarding schoolboys, in a discussion with Astral Pax, who himself elsewhere comments, after describing the caning incident, ‘Happy days’.
I have to disagree with them both. Leaving aside adult proclivities, I really don’t think a Junior school boy would have been anything other than totally mortified, when I was at school, when Astral Pax was at school, or at any time in between or since! The school caning incident stretches my very elastic credulity to its absolute limit. So far I seem to be a lone voice though. Either everyone else thinks the caning claim too ludicrous to even comment on OR they think it’s clearly true and there’s no point in responding to my ridiculous criticisms OR they’re not reading this thread. It would be good to at least know which though!
It would be interesting to have Astral Pax in the Forum to discuss the issue, especially as he seems to suggest that he wasn’t the only boy so dealt with at the school. I shall discuss this matter with my esteemed fellow contributor JformerlyJethro in the next post! Astral Pax would be off to a flying start here. After all he declares himself on Flickr as a bottle green knickers man and it well known that one of our Honorary Life Members had an interest in that shade of nether wear! No, not me, perish the very thought! Fran of Wembley of course!
If you look at his comment under ” rel=”nofollow”>THIS picture where he says “I like green – my first girlfriend’s uniform was green – you don’t forget things like that.”
It does sound like he shares your appreciation of bottle green knickers
I wonder what the reaction must be at Tappen, North Dakota High School if they were unaware of their history until this story?
TAPPEN, N.D., Feb. 7. (AP) Miss Gertrude Murdoch, 27, principal of Tappen high school, and Gordon Bell, 17, sophomore in the school, were married recently and the teacher-wife and her young husband are attending their classes after a one-day honeymoon.
The school board has given Mrs. Bell permission to keep her husband in her classes and will retain her as principal.
The husband is continuing to live with his parents while Mrs. Bell lives with the Dr. J.S. Whitson family. The marriage took place at Steele, January 29, it was revealed today Young Bell will finish high school and then go to college. Dr. Whitson, friend of the newlyweds, said today.
Oakland Tribune (Oakland, California) Feb 7, 1929
FYI The marriage did not last. By 1944, she was listed in the voter registration as Mrs. Gertrude M. Kellogg, teacher, in Contra Costa County, California. Although Gordon Bells Social Security number appears to have been issued in California, it seems he later lived in Bismarck, N.D., and was married to someone else.
I wonder what the reaction must be at Tappen, North Dakota High School id they were unaware of their history?
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Feb 13, 2012#189
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Spanking Age? Average women it runs from five to forty years. Try as I may I have not tracked down stories closer to its source. I would love to have this New York Magistrates name so I can glean more wisdom from his maxims.
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Feb 13, 2012#190
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi American Way,
I claim no expertise in this field, but clearly the learned judge was talking about American women born at least as far back as 1863 (40 years back from 1903) Life expectancies are a very complex subject, particularly extending that far back and after a quick look I have given up trying to factor in this and other things which should be considered in an accurate calculation.
Instead I’ll fall back onto a very rough and ready calculation based on the average life expectancy of a baby girl born in the UK. In 1901 this was 49 years. For a newborn baby girl born in early 2011 it was 82 years.
It seems reasonable, and only fair to ladies, to assume that the average spanking age for women will have similarly extended upwards to match life expectancy. If our 1901 baby girl could, if she was so inclined, expect to be spanked until she was 40, then her 2011 counterpart might reasonably expect to be spanked until she was at least 67. Again only if she was so inclined of course!
Even a lady born around the same time as me, 1942, life expectancy 65 years or so at birth, could if so inclined reasonably expect to be spanked until she was 53. And of course life expectancy increases (up to a point at least) with age attained, so those of my female contemporaries who so wish may well still be within their extended spanking age.
Very regrettably I am not able to report if this is the case. However hints dropped from time to time in this estimable Forum convince me that if the learned judge was pontificating on the subject today he would find himself in a great deal of trouble if he did not extend the upper limit of his spanking age for women somewhat beyond 40! Conversely of course he would also find himself in a great deal of trouble unless he set the lower limit well above 5! </div>
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Feb 13, 2012#191
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Thank you for being less exclusive. You real are on the cutting edge. Jenny welcome to the spankable age.
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Feb 14, 2012#192
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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I Love Lucy had more an impact on American Culture than many would believe. Without doubt feminism has achieved parity in the paddling of the genders and has decreased spankings of wives.
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Radio Clip circa 1949.
New Medium the 1950’s Television.
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She branched out on her own after the failure of her marriage. This is the emerging feminist side of one of the richest television actresses in inflation adjusted dollars in the history of that medium.
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Feb 14, 2012#193
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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One of my all time favorite scenes is found in Dos pistols gemelas 1966. The Twins turn 65 this week. These 19 year old twins make up for their lack of acting skills with their music and dance. They are from Spain so I found them easier to understand.
Part three at the end has a spanking scene and the beginning of four shows that the twins were longing for more. It was a way of showing their love in that genre. The dance scene at 3:00 was worth watching in my book in the second video.
http://cerebrin.wordpress.com/2008/03/3 … s-gemelas/
For those who want to see it all. I’m sure small in number:
Those who want to see the scenes not in situ.
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Feb 15, 2012#194
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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By my somewhat of a stretch relevance to corporal punishment I came across Pilar and Auora Bayona birthday on February 10, 1947 and their place of birth being Zarzuela, Spain. That where the very much on topic painting of the lesser known horsing scene by Goya. As I re-read my last post I became aware that I didn’t share the twins names. I also found a trailer in the English language where and at 2:00 into the it so may find interesting. 38 years after their birth corporal punishment was banned in Spain. The twins seem so wholesome it is hard to imagine them being so bodily chastened in school.
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Feb 17, 2012#195
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Dreams of the days of innocence.
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Feb 17, 2012#196
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Surely, in the second CLICK link in American Way’s post of February 17 2012, 9:08 PM, the fifteenth picture shows two students holding a paddle above the teacher’s head?
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Feb 18, 2012#197
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi Alan Turing,
You said above:
I think you have the wrong link to the fifteenth picture in your post above, as the blogger has linked a non-existent 1600 pixel wide picture from the in-blog photo display. But this one should work. And do you know, I think you are right! That definitely does look like a paddle! But I think there must be a misunderstanding somewhere. Perhaps the paddle is a historical artefact brought into class for display purposes only. I mean, the brace position and those mini dresses? No, surely not!
But then again, who knows what was going on at the school(?) concerned. For instance is that a cane being carried by the teacher(?) in this picture, the sixteenth in the series? It looks a formidable implement, well matched to the senior pupils under his supervision, but an unusual choice in a US school I think! So perhaps he is merely a little unsteady on his feet and uses a walking stick!
But the real mystery is the tenth picture in the blog entry!
Could it really be …….. No, surely not ……… But then the evidence is quite incontrovertible, and we know the camera cannot lie! So it must be, and in view of the stated objective of this estimable Forum it is clearly my duty to enlighten those who are unfamiliar with the practice (which was used occasionally in my Junior School) as to what is happening.
The young lady teacher on the right is clearly dealing with the male student. He has committed some breach of the school’s disciplinary code, and is being punished by the application of some punitive implement to his hand or hands. The young lady teacher has this implement positioned ready for use, but unfortunately we cannot discern exactly what it is. A strap, a cane, perhaps even a yardstick as beloved of American Way’s Sisters of no Mercy.
The student has refused to cooperate with the punishment and has repeatedly withdrawn his hand from the stroke, possibly even causing the young lady teacher to strike herself with the implement if indeed it was a strap. Not best pleased she has summoned two of her lady colleagues to assist. The uncooperative student has been made to sit on a chair and is being closely monitored by the two additional lady teachers on the left to ensure that he stays in position. Now if he withdraws his hand from the strokes the implement will strike him across the front of the thighs – ouch!
The student, looking thoroughly embarrassed and nervous, as well he might, is about to hesitantly extend his left hand for chastisement. As noted, I saw this technique used at my Junior School, and described it in the last three paragraphs of this post.
I have only ever heard of the technique being used on girls, when the pushing back of the hem of skirt or dress made the result of pulling away the hand even more unpleasant for the unfortunate pupil. But perhaps that is why the student looks so embarrassed and nervous. Maybe he is anticipating the instruction to take the action necessary to still further amplify the consequences of non-cooperation with his punishment.
The young lady teacher carrying out the chastisement certainly looks both determined and capable. In addition to the rigours of the intended punishment I fear that even with his trousers the student will not have found the results of any last minute refusals very pleasant. But so very unusual to see this technique being used on a senior male student, and in the US at that. 1950s Junior Schools in the UK, certainly, but a 1970s US High School, if indeed that is what the institution is. A definite first, I think!
Never let it be said that Another_Lurker lacks a vivid imagination – or that he isn’t prepared to use it!! </div>
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Feb 18, 2012#198
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi Alan Turing,
My apologies. Your link above to the fifteenth picture didn’t work for me shortly after you posted. Nor did the link directly from the picture in the blog. They still weren’t working nearly three and a half hours later when I posted. Indeed, that was why I used the Chrome facility ‘Inspect Element’ to get the URL of the actual picture in the blog rather than the link. But for some reason beyond my ken (I certainly haven’t changed anything) the missing picture has suddenly become accessible to me. Sorry for any confusion.
And now I’ve had the chance to blow up the slightly better quality image you linked, yes, that most certainly is a paddle. One can clearly see the rounded off corner of the ‘business end’ on the left and the incut curve forming the handle on the right. The pupils definitely look a little old for CP to be used, and clearly think it’s something of a joke, so perhaps it was just that.
Judging by the pile of small boxes (presents?) on the desk, and what appears to be a card and envelope held by the girl to the left of the desk it may be that happy-sad moment when pupils say farewell to a popular teacher at the end of their time at school.</div>
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Feb 18, 2012#199
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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My guess it is a student preparing to strike the teacher. Could be the last day of school for the seniors just prior to their graduation.
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Feb 20, 2012#200
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Mar 05, 2012#201
It’s a remarkable history of what was passed off as innocent has become everything but that today. The day in which a public spanking can become a crucial part of movie is rare and when done so it raises the ire of many unless within the context of mutual enjoyment. It’s no longer fun when it seen as perverted. That was not even on the radar screen when George Murphy pounding 53 times on Brenda Joyces backside. No actress or agent would permit that in mainstream movie today nor would it not raise an eyebrow or two.
Public Deb Number 1 in 1940 has politics in mind with Finland and Russia mentioned. It gives a snippet from a POV of the USA toward Communism before our entry into the war. This was the era of the Silver Screen that Ronald Reagan came from. After WWII Hollywoods stars were black listed for any association with Communists. The second link mentions Finland and Russia. This spanking scene just scratches the surface of the hysteria of that day. A young waiter pounds home Americanism. That says it all.
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A follow up of my September 3, 2010 post Ponding Home American Style.
George Murphy, the spanker, of course the actor later went on to do his part against communism in his real life role of U.S. senator from California. Substitute Governor and that has a familiar ring. Doesn’t it?
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Zoom and you still not find a belly button. .)
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For 1946 judging by Chapter 7 the scenes previously reference (post code) were truly remarkable as attested here.
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Mar 06, 2012#202
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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I wonder if the forms of discipline applied to grown women as mentioned in this thread had any effect on the willingness of women to marry?
Also, while I appreciate that during the war (both wars, in fact) women took the place of men on the production line, only to return home to be supported by their menfolk when they returned, if they were so fortunate, other work was and had always been considered women’s work. Where I grew up, virtually all store clerks except in hardware stores and men’s clothing shops were women. While you may think of a factory job as a man’s job, in fact often as not, it’s a woman’s job. Can you imagine a man running a sewing machine turning out shirts, underwear and workwear? Alas! Such jobs are usually somewhere else now.
Naturally there were jobs that were absolutely men’s jobs. That’s why there was such resistance when any women showed interest in becoming miners, fire fighters, welders, mechanics and so on. Coincidentally, many such jobs were in places that happened to have a high percentage of men. There were logging camps, ranch bunkhouses, mining boom towns and so on. I suspect that the few women in those places were adored more than anything.
Most aspects of the age of innocence didn’t apply to the working class in the first place.
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There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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The emergence of the suffragette movement brought drastic measures during trying of the earliest days of the gender wars. Headlines like these petered out after the war and will never be the same. Johnny came home a different man and had a whole new gal waiting for him. IMHO it only gets worse with time.
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Mar 17, 2012#204
Medbury says column has an interesting take on domestic abuse. I’m sure it’s tongue and cheek but it does reflect somewhat the mores of the times.
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Corporal punishment in schools female adolescents and its carry over in spousal relationships. This Christian Domestic Discipline Site (More Appropriate For CP Lighter Side) comments below are from follows in Bigger Picture link not unfamiliar to our estimable Forum..
On a related topic, so far as I can tell, the real reason for banishing the paddle from public school classrooms had more to do with trying to put the domestic discipline genie back in the bottle than it did with protecting children from educators.
Schools were the designated flag ship of a no-spank movement that obscured the fact that girls could be quite successfully spanked after puberty. The idea being, that if spanking was eliminated, boys would never know big girls could be spanked and this would carry over into adult life.
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The familiar Ottawa wife spanking story here follows British legal precedence (N.B. Penultimate Paragraph) below. A more contemporary petition follows that.. The last two links involve permission slips.
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Mar 19, 2012#205
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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The silent films and the early talkies were censor free and depicted things the way they were better than what would happen in a few short years. Censorship exacts a toll over time. The film “No Defense” is just one of many The battle of the genders were soon to be eclipsed in a before it all came crashing down. Miss May McAvoy rubs a vigorous bridge construction the wrong way when caught smoking. Little did she know she was in harm’s way as she teasingly tossed a nickel his way as seemingly dared him to spank her. Never would happen Just a half dozen years or so later.
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She had a grace and style lost in today’s world.
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She was less than five feet and only 89 pounds but all lady. The Jazz Singer Clip was delightful.
Al Jolson and Elvis Presley. The night he passed people begged NOT to play this song on the radio. For some the assassination of JFK becomes the where were you when questions?
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Mar 19, 2012#206
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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First. Let’s clear the air. My suggested punishment was less severe. A_L Do not feel in anyway that I would expect you to celebrate the 200th with Renee’s deadline soon approaching. Like Nancy Guillen you might negotiate a bargain. More than you bargained for but less than you deserve.
Constable Tom Carroll was a former athlete (hammer thrower). As Constable he spanked Miss Mabel Stearns, 22 years old for poaching in Fruitvale CA. She got more than she bargained for too but not less than she deserved. He was trying to get a position in a girl’s boarding school or seminary.
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DURING HIS 32 YEARS AS A CONSTABLE, HE NEVER ARRESTED A BOY. HE SPANKED ERRING YOUTHS, RATHER THAN SENDING THEM REFORMATORIES.
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He met his nemesis in a washerwoman Mrs Jane Bell about half way down first column.
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A well dressed stranger, who is being searched for by Constable Tom Carroll, overestimated the helplessness of Mrs. Jane Bell, a sturdy washwoman, whom he assisted across a muddy street and attempted to rob before he had finished his attentions. He received a well-directed blow on the head from Mrs. Bell’s
umbrella, which sent him away in haste with a bleeding scalp.
Constable Tom Carroll was truly a remarkable man.
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Mar 21, 2012#207
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Linda Russell Sever County Tennessee was the center of attention for her infamous “day of reckoning” end of the school year paddling in June 1985 first link. All in a days work.
She was my age while TN was still in the age of innocence. It would not be allowed in many other regions in the USA. 5-foot-1, 120 pound teacher said her “arm would fall off,” if she spanked 80 students in one day. 25 was enough for a day.
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More trouble in May of 1986 for her unorthodox disciplinary methods.
Ms. Linda Russell said this year’s suspension was probably due to any of three incidents she said occurred recently.
Ms. Russell said she called one student to the front of class for talking and sent her back to her seat by tapping the side of her foot to the girl’s rear.
In another incident, Ms. Russell said she tossed a golf ball against the rear wall of the classroom and it struck a student in the shoulder on the rebound. No one was hurt, she said.
In a third incident, Ms. Russell said she was accused of spitting in a student’s hand. The teacher, who coaches girls’ softball and basketball at Seymour High School, said she spit into a baseball glove.
”I always spit in my glove and hit it with my fist,” Ms. Russell said. ”I had one kid who had missed four or five balls so I took her glove and did the same thing.”
”I’ll either put her back in the classroom or recommend the school board terminate her contract,” Superintendent Mack Sharpe said. ”I don’t want this to carry on like it did last year. To the
best of my knowledge, there’s no comparing this incident and what happened last year.”
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Mar 23, 2012#208
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Renee: Maybe you would like to weigh in on this. Since A_L seems to have an unnatural craving to be paddled perhaps you may care to share with him which one of those sisters that you most resemble. You did mention that you needed two hands to grip when you paddled Natasha so it might be the one holding the paddle. She seems to have the smallest hands.

Unlike the artist’s eye, the camera can of course lie, and I am not at all sure that your selected fun nun actually has the smallest hands, she’s just further back in the picture. The fun nuns are of course a carefully selected team, with a left handed and right handed paddler, a yard stick exponent in reserve and a trainer/manager to control and coordinate their activities. I doubt that Renee will respond to your request to associate herself with one of them, but for the record the paddle used by the fun nun on the left of the picture is a dead ringer for Renee’s ‘Kaye’ paddle, at least as regards dimensions, being 24in × 4in × ¼in (plus a bit).
I need to gently point out that you consistently misquote the ‘name’ of the young lady involved in the one TWP recorded paddling which was possibly something like the severity actually deserved. As I’m sure it wasn’t her real name it perhaps doesn’t really matter, but the unfortunate recipient of the 5 double handed swats with that formidable sounding 20in × 4in × ¾in (nearly) senior High School paddle was ‘Nashia’ NOT ‘Natasha’.
You sadly, and rather cruelly (and after all the trouble I went to with your celebratory post, too ) attribute ulterior motives to my researches into this strange Trans-Atlantic phenomenon of school paddling. Yes, it has been my ambition to achieve a virtual cyberspace ‘Full Nashia’, complete with the associated authentic and inimitable TWP style ‘tell it how it really was’ swat by swat report on proceedings by Renee herself, sparing no blushes on the reactions of both paddled and paddler, before, during, and afterwards!
But I must stress that this is purely in the interests of scientific research, and of course currently a possible special edition of the ‘Daily Matrix’, to celebrate a hopefully soon to be attained astonishing 400 posts in around 3 months! Naturally, being a coward at heart even when the danger is only virtual, I shall have no compunction whatsoever about settling for the 24in × 4in × ¼in (plus a bit) ‘Kaye’ paddle as currently threatened, rather than the 20in × 4in × ¾in (nearly) senior High School paddle which featured in the real thing. That extra mass has to make a significant difference, especially when swung double handed (ouch)!
But now I must get back to the drawing board. Midnight UK time plus a few hours for the time difference (I assume the deadline was set for a US time zone, not for UTC) fast approaches and the cursor on my graphics package is playing up! </div>
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Spanking legal? Strictly it is not making it legal in these two cases but affordable. They did not have woman judges.Wife spanking clean. Maryland. 1921.
He took his wife from bath to give her spanking unethical, unusual, unlawful, unkind said the court. Eleven dollars and forty five cents, please.” Marsch thought it was worth it and took his liberty as a receipt.
POV of Mrs. Walter Ferguson. 1929
Maryland. 1929.
The first link is pure vintage although with the turn to the right. Who knows? The spanking as a gesture of love on August 10, 1946 was prescient for sure.
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
Given today’s style this (as opposed) to the Lighter Side is more appropriately posted here. Many of them were film spanked And The Angels sing has a three for one in that same time period.
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
I have more or less come to the conclusion that the 1960’s are the end of the age of the innocence. Fourteen seasons of Bonanza ended was the end of an era when women viewers fantasized while a string of stardom came true for many young actresses.dreams and actresses. The Love Me Not entry is not a first but the Woman of Fire may be unfamiliar with our readers. I love the last video with the expression I spit on your mother’s shadow. Bear in my mind for many of those 14 years it was the best watched program on television. The popularity of the Beatles followed that same timeline with the post war emergence of adolescent sexuality.
One should keep in mind this was the number one television show in America. Synopsis, image and video.
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Taming of the Shrew Bonanza Style. The fun begins at 5:26.
http://bonanza.wikia.com/wiki/Love_Me_Not
My Fair Lady Bonanza Style. 9:30 ending Part 1.
Followed.
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
Today’s sororities.
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Yesterday’s sororities Good Girls and Bad Girls.
The bad girls would benefit from a paddle on their pretty bottoms with an unhappy end but the good girls would get the happy end. They found the paddle that really mattered, the boy of their young dreams to paddle in the same canoe along the stream of life.
Naughty Berkeley High school girls.
Naughty Berkeley College girls.
Swinging from the chandeliers
Bigoted Berkeley girls.
Mexicans need not apply or maybe?
Bold hussies not for man’s gaze.
Most of these girls would benefit from a paddle on their pretty bottoms but the lucky one found the paddle that really mattered; the boy of their young dreams to paddle in the same canoe
along the stream of life.
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
Sorry for the repeat at the end and the broken first link with the good girls now fixed. Happy Easter.
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
Professional Spanker Toronto. Gender assumptions were the signs of the time in the age of innocence and an unawareness of the sexual needs of some. Such were the times.
Chief Constable Samuel Dickson was a no nonsense man. Why hire a woman for a man’s job? A woman wouldn’t prove to be a deterrent for Another_Lurker and for other strange lads.
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
Heaven Bound. Bettie Mae Page (April 22, 1923)
Happy Birthday. Still going strong even in death,
Heaven Bound 2009
Sir Elton John
Three Demonstrations
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
Are good days gone forever? I wonder if Magistrate Elmer J Tone ever played golf? Give George McCormick some compassion. Give him some credit.
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
Weekly World News. No more getting into hot water in school.
Dear Dotti America’s most outspoken advice columnist. 1985. I Was Dear Dottie. August 2007
January 1985. Advice after that date would be rare indeed in the years to come. Dotti’s advice to a spanking Mom. Tell hubby you didn’t want to hurt your hand – and a hairbrush was handy. A little child abuse, if that’s what he calls it is often necessary to cure parent abuse.
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
More Dotti with her outspoken POLITICALLY INCORRECT ADVICE
Will a spanking help my sister?
Her sister’s reaction. Sore in Maywoods, NJ
Dotti’s response:
Dear Sore: Listen to me, you little twerp. Your sister asked me for advice because you refused to help out around the you. And he should keep spanking you until you act like a human being. He can leave your clothes on and use a wooden paddle intend of his hand to knock some sense into you.
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There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
prof n noted how recent Dr A H Chapman’s advice as indicated from a previous post as 1960 first newspaper link but what was but even more amazing is that there was a market for a second edition in 1974 in 2012.
Management of Emotional Problems of children and adolescents. Dr. A. H. Chapman
Fifteen cents worth of advice.
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
This was meant to be the last link for the last two are repeats from prior post.
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
Alice White is rightly called the last of the flappers in the pre-code era. Sexists scenes disappeared as the suffragettes gained their rights.
Alice White Chastised and Chastened. It is a small world after all.
Flirting and dressed like spankings were harder to find in the mainstream.
Alice White in motion.
A You Tube Movie Preview. http://youtu.be/s4rDn-9Pt-c
Collectible. That hurts.
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
To Spank or Not to Spank. Adult Tips on Spanking Their Teen. Top down.
Not To Spank. Teenager POV. Bottom Up. Miss X. All dressed up and no place to go but over her mother’s knee.
September 5, 1948 Miss X is no lover of corporal punishment.
December 5, 1948 Miss X do as I say not as I do.
On the contrary Teenager Tina is all for it and for others as well.
Hairbrush Tonic. February 2, 1947
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
Lady pupil with spunk tore her teacher’s hair and scratched his face. Male teacher got the better of her in spite of her large dimension and some muscular development. But her father?
Stan Windhorn 1961 Sarasota FL. Things stayed relatively innocent until the fall of DeGaule in 1968.
However you may agree or disagree with him I enjoyed his style. Stan is my Mark Twain judging from these two gems.
His column appeared just around time that Ernest Hemingway of his demise who was no stranger to Saratoga.
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Jul 17, 2012#227
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Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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This came up through a recent news search now that the archives have been shot down. The barber supposedly has been confirmed as authentic barber with the Daily Mirror being suspect tabloid. Maybe he gave out free hairbrushes. Four out of four Brooklyn men cannot possibly be wrong about a woman’s needs.
They can determine by the lack of zipcodes the dating.
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Jul 22, 2012#228
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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During the time of Blue Hawaii and McClintock the subjugation and the subjection of woman were coming to an end. By the mid 1960 feminists were using the words: “male chauvinists pigs”. I am convinced if there were Office of Civil Right reports the equality, while still skewed toward boys, were noticeable. One of the Teacher Chatboards, albeit suspect, attested to that development whether anecdotal or not it does make sense.
There were Marlboro men commercials that exalted men free from the responsibilities of home and the poipularity of westerns should not be surprising.
My family did not have television until 1959. Gunsmoke was the number one television show in America prior to my having one. I do remember Western spanking scenes from that era in the Bonanza series that played as number one for some of its 14 seasons second only to Gunsmoke’s 20. That’s a long memory. Hmm.
Sue Ane Langdon
As is so often an case actress broke in through television series through rough and tumble westerns.
Sue Ane Langdon was one of the most beautiful girls who was given a taste of that rough and tumble in two of the most popular series in USA history.
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Bonanza played for 14 years. The Many Face of Gideon was one episode that Susan Ane Langdon graced us.
Bonanza Miss Pocket Picking Flinch.
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4:00 minutes.
Recently coming to light is a bona fide spanking from Gunsmoke in 1962. Catawomper. Not exactly one of the series hightlights.
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She got a bona fide from Bud Bones played by Dick Sargeant. spanking in Gunsmoke in 1962.
http://youtu.be/pP9KtEoijSg
20:30 minutes.
I was rightly taken to task for wrongly posting Your TV Tonight this vignette. To provide continuity about Westerns.
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Jul 30, 2012#229
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Pants suits. Teacher and student double standards.
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Jul 31, 2012#230
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Nice find! At least we now know where Trey Holladay took his inspiration from!
In Holladay’s case spoof web sites falsely claimed that the girls were required to attend for paddling in the problematical prom dresses. Did you find any similar claims in the 1971 press in respect of the young ladies and the pants suits? </div>
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There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Paddle Club. Don’t get caught scratching. Miss Poison Ivy. Muriel Kanofsky.
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Who could forget the second gander of the real Miss Poison Ivy?
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Aug 22, 2012#232
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Mirror of the Mind by our previously mentioned Dr Lawrence Gould. These columnists have long runs. He does for the most part discourage spanking teens and wives. He wasn’t that far behind the times.
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The difference between daughter and wife are not very pronounced in the 1946 and 1947 drawing.
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Aug 29, 2012#233
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Kiss Me Kate, contemporary commentary from July 2012 attests to the freshness to the issue and the last link proves that Kiss Me Kate is alive an kicking.
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Can you imagine someone writing this today in our politically correct environment?
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Kiss Me Kate’s spanking scene is essential to the plot of the story. Not only is the scene admitted, the pillow prop calling to mind the vigor of the spanking is often omitted where the spanking is included.
Football is a sport that brings the athletes and the talents of music and dance together to help team spirit and school pride.
It is known in Broadway the actors are paid the most, then the dancer and then the musicians but they all have a role to play.
Broadening musical plays not limiting should be the objective. It is a history lesson of how things were in the middle of the last century. Eliminating Kiss me Kate from their option ill serves that goal. And would deprive the viewer of a scene I recently posted performed at the Concordia Theatre Shanghai, 2011.
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Sep 14, 2012#234
Mirror of the Mind by our previously mentioned Dr Lawrence Gould. These columnists have long runs. He does for the most part discourage spanking teens and wives. He wasn’t that far behind the times.
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High profile dispute are fodder for the tabloids of today. Yesterdays rich and famous male prerogatives have become today’s spousal abuse. The end of the age of innocence.
March 21, 1922
Frederick Delos Montfort spanks. Mrs Adele B Montfort spanked.
Italy is a man’s country, where a can make his wife do what he wants.
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Mrs Adele B Montfort is she who got spanked. April 16, 1922
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Frederick Delos Montfort is who spanked.
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October 28, 1922.
She who gets nothing.
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Oct 03, 2012#235
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Commotion Over Spanking Bill Has Area Educators Grinning .
Schenectady Gazette – Apr 3, 1959
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JOSEPH WERNER, veteran Junior high principal in Ballston Spa, follows the … go to the shop, make a wooden paddle and inscribe his name on It. Werner then would stand the paddle in the corner of his office with the warning that next time it would be put to use where he thought it would do the most good. It is recorded that occasionally it was.
School men joking about a classic spanking is the case of the principal who spanked the bottom of an especially unruly teen-aged girl and fined two cents would be unheard of 50 years later. 1959 was in the age of innocence.
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Oct 15, 2012#236
The thirties and forties were not pleasant times to be a communists as this New York Times article can attest to. It was not a pleasant time for Brenda Joyce (Me Tarzan – You Jane fame) She endure a few dozen visible and as many or so audible and with six takes it’s a good thing that George Murphy was a gentleman and held back. It’s love at first slap. You could fool me. A poster add and a story of the scene follows the news article.
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George Murphy was a patriotic statesman and Senator as well as close friend and political ally of President Ronald Reagan. Like Reagan he served as president of the Screen Actor’s Guild. Shirley Temple Black served as a conservative Congressman and as the late Sonny Bono of Sonny & Cher fame served as a liberal one.
This spanking was no an omitted promotional but an integral part of the story. It’s a gilded pink. Boom. Wham. Smack. For readers unfamiliar with pink and communism, how could one forget former Vice-President reference to Pinko Communists in 1968. Maybe someone should have done pounded sense into Hanoi Jane Fonda?
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George Murphy lived to 89 and Brenda Joyce to 92 (previously referenced but UK source). Maybe spanking is good for your health on both sides.
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Oct 29, 2012#237
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Look at men’s attitudes towards the female body through the age. You can understand why gender as it relates to school corporal punishment has come to the forefront. The so-called “tweener years” between girls’ interests in dolls and in boys has become smaller and smaller.
My interests have gone from cars and girls to pills and bills. Yeah right.
A half a century ago boys and girls of college age could play USA football without today’s restrictions (Hagerstown, Maryland rules). Gone are the days of innocence.
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Oct 29, 2012#238
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>hi American Way,
Those males of my acquaintance who have played any sports against all-female teams assure me that the only more dangerous activity that can be undertaken on a sports field is playing rugby against an Old Boys 3rd XV.</div>
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Nov 12, 2012#239
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Guilty. 30 days for the judge has no sympathy. He had been shell shocked.
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He was not in the habit of spanking strange women.
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John Sorder’s gained some friends along the way. Keep up the good work.
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Dec 02, 2012#240
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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The Seventies was the heyday of woman’s liberation. Hurricanes no longer were named after women only (Hell know no fury) but alternate names.
And Jimmy Carter dedicating a a coin to a woman’s suffrage campaigner Susan B Anthony in 1979. Hurricanes no longer were named after women only (Hell know no fury) but alternate names. This story is typical of the seventies and would never be only a source of humor in 2013 (get use to it). I posted the story under Gender Agenda but I think with the picture of the students and how grateful the girls for they will not be rounded up to round out. It certainly is not out of place in this thread.
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Valerie Carlson typified the first wave of woman lawyers who now practically out number the men. On my paper route I delivered to a woman’s lawyer who was considered a rarity in the early sixties. It was like did you that the woman lawyer lives there.
People use to ask for the man of the house and not the head of the household. It is no longer paper boy or mailman but newspaper or letter carrier. It’s no longer altar boy but altar servers. Fireman but firefighter and the lists goes on from there.
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Two notations before our esteemed fellow contributor not-picker comments upon it are in order. The youngsters in the above link are from a neighboring county than the one mentioned and the below link is 1983, however, 1970’s are referenced with affirmative action.
For the Supreme Court rolling back affirmative action has been front and center. It was to right a wrong within a duration of history. Our recently re-elected President and First Lady received benefits because of their finanical straits. President Barak Obama said that Malia or Sasha won’t be lacking in funds and that economics should be the focus not the color of skin. Affirmative action is undergoing review and revision.
The Obama had incurred so much debt that their game plan was to retire debt after he completed his first teem as Senator. Michelle said during the 2008 campaign that their good fortune certainly wouldn’t be the path of those who shared their circumstance. It was the publishing of his book that made them rich. Their charity for the poor are well chronicled in their mandated tax report.
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Dec 17, 2012#241
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Small town newspapers don’t have as many local stories while Milwaukee is not exactly a small town they had a lot of local stories. Their focus was close to home and some of their stories did not go viral as they say today. Small incidences involving corporal punishment at home and in school are covered with great details. Wisconsin mirrors an innocence not found in America then and still to a lesser extent now.
Let’s keep dancing break out the booze and have a ball. Is that all there is? The Gleissners
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Patrolman Daniel J. Gleissner seated on his bike on a warm August day in 1940.
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Did Patrolman’s spanking save the marriage for better or for worse? 1956 politically incorrect cartoon.
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Love conquers all. He took her back. Did he take the judge’s advice? Could be the secret to a long and happy marriage.
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Marathon dancing, popular during that time, brought to mind Peggy Lee.
Let’s keep dancing break out the booze and have a ball. Is that all there is? Ethel save the last dance for him.
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Jan 04, 2013#242
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Sex and spanking are the subject of so much literature in the history of fiction. Naughty books and magazines were relegated to X-Rated bookstores in major cities. In New York City’s Time Square they became so prolific that the city issued permits where the stores would be separated by mandated distance. Today that is all by the wayside with the internet. The next frontiers are the mainstream novels, films and television programs.
Teenagers are more aware of their bodies at younger and younger ages and are more aware of the impact their bodies as sources of titillation. The brouhaha that ensued with the Tru TV Arkansas paddling, Oxford MS prom dress paddling and the recent case in Springtown, certainly indicates a discomfort that goes beyond the regional and cultural divide with men paddling post-pubescent girls. That hearkens all the way back to 30 years ago with the Shelly Gaspershon paddling in Dunn, North Carolina.
Is it wise to continue to paddle after a certain age? The popularity of Mommy porn, Fifty Shades of Grey, cannot go unnoticed however how many safe search settings controls mandated and libraries and schools as studies such as these enter the mainstream. The three fold growth in soft S-M interests, as indicated in this link, is a sure indicator that we have reached a point of no return in corporal punishment in the age of the innocence.
These factor need to be assessed and changes should be considered for if the they are not it will continue to be played out in the court of public opinion.
This recent story reflects the changes in sexual appetites from 30 years ago in France.
The trend towards expanding the sexual repertoire of French is confirmed with SM practices ‘soft’ on the increase compared to the 80s. Today, one in four women said they had received a spanking partner (24%) as against 8% in 1985.
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Feb 08, 2013#243
This is called domestic abuse if it were truly non-consensual yet in the sixties in the midst of liberation a headline like this warranted the attention of sixteen newspapers and none of them tabloids. The cameras were there because it was stowaway story and I believe the spanking was not scripted but was spontaneous otherwise I don’t think it would be considered so newsworthy in the mainstream press. Such were the days. It is well worth noting that Australian English smacking is used for spanking so considering the girl’s origin it was a very clever to us the expression in the story. Is smacking used in the UK? Spanking in the UK would never be used for caning but it is used for paddling. I take it over there spanking would mean over the knee and not bending over. By the way, capri pants was the style of my high school day and made the lesson more painful than jeans. Such were the days. At 20 was he saving herself in the early days of contraception. Such morning (here) musings.
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She was probably carried over to the adjacent chair but there is a scripted quality at some point. The below site is from an adult site but I’m sure taken from the mainstream media.
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Too old to spank. Too young to marry
April 20 2011 at 3:34 PM
Follow up of the story above and a few stories that have not made the rounds that covered more inches of space than one would expect in 1967 in the midst of the Vietnam War.
Her stowaway stunt was not looked upon as kindly as in the publicity she was given on talk shows. US Consular nor the naval authority.
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http://www.uss-bennington.org/stz-sydney67.html
30 April 1967 ( CARRIER DUE – Navy Anchors Sandra )
Sandra, all the while, will be under the eye of her father at her home in Long Jetty. He said she would not be visiting any U.S. Navy vessels this time. “In fact”, he said, “I would not be surprised if she was banned from the area”. But Sandra has vowed to keep trying to stowaway aboard a ship going to the United States – — and Bud.
The couple made the rounds of talk shows. Here they’re shown with Phyllis Diller (RIP August 21, 2012)
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The clearest picture of the spanking incident is found on Richard Windsor’s dicey site. Whatever happened to capri pants?
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Feb 15, 2013#244
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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The other side of the news segment from satiric talk show Fernwood 2 Night was a reaction to Ingraham vs. Wright 1977 Supreme Court ruling. There were more stories written about school corporal punishment following that ruling in newspapers than ever.
I am putting under the thread of CP in the Age of Innocence. Maybe on an adult cable television network but nothing like this would make it to the mainstream. Political correctness rules reigned but not in the Village Voice of July 11, 1977.
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As so often with links with the passage of time they become of no use. This goes back to the beginning of CP the Lighter Side thread in June 22, 2009. This is the scene where the principal gives his pretty pupil fifty soft whacks.
High School Principal Marshall Petty has “spanking good time” on show.
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Video brush up, brush down, swot for fifty whacks. Fun begins at 2:25.
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Feb 19, 2013#245
How do you unearth a picture of Colonel John Elliott Brooks so quickly saying it was a shame not to have a picture of one of the principals? I put on my thinking cap on and asked myself why was there no story over there. So I copied the address and cure enough a UK source came with the image. Mr Brooks of Carlyle Mansions Cheyne Walk Chelsea. It sounds like fancy digs. Proverbial tip of the hat is in order. Here’s to Dorothy my old Dutch. Just minimize it if you find it difficult to see the whole article in one frame.
Susan Rosemary Carr picture would be too much to ask for. N.B. when a middle name comes up in one account that has possible value with such a common name Susan Carr. I am sure with the Fleet St. newspapers back in 1974 she did not go unnoticed. Not casting aspersions upon the Glasgow Herald.
November 26, 1974.
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Follow up of January 13 2012 at 2:58 AM
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Looking back over three decades ago and the other girls would this case have been settled differently? Would circa 1974 mark the end of CP in the Age of the Innocence?
A question from Justice Peter Bristow to the jury was: Is bottom spanking a little sexual aberration something more sinister?
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It took the jury three hours to mull over Justice Bristow’s question as well as others.
Background on the Judge.
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By the end of 15 years on the Bench he found five hours a day of concentration becoming tiring, so he retired “to fish and to think”. Pressure of work and the shortage of thinking time, he believed, lay behind many bad decisions by judges.
A follow up in a mainstream British newspaper.
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A recent posting regarding the iconic spanking in a British tabloid of that time.
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A happy ending. Whistle blower Pamela Putnik has bragging rights as a retired English Solicitor.
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Feb 28, 2013#246
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Craig Ferguson is a popular late night show host in the States. Here he is becoming a citizen. It didn’t go over well that he seemingly mocked a sacred rite of passage in this video. If any of you are considering this is a heads up.
He makes constant reference to light bondage and discipline. The bottoms up is an imported vice.
http://www.theweek.co.uk/film/44932/eng … t-spanking
Kathy Griffin was born in 1960 and attended St Bernadine. Her strong anti-catholicism is rooted in the harsh punishments of the Catholic schools.
This is an autobiographical reference. At St. Bernardines the nuns never liked me. Especially Sister Mary Bitch-and-a-Half. I think that was her biblical name.
You can see how at 1:45 that being naughty has taken a whole different meaning in adulthood in a late night talk.
http://youtu.be/yOKsqY3JgKA
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Mar 17, 2013#247
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EAL,
You commented on my posting here and claimed priority for the hyperlinked drawing.
I must ask, did you sent the hoax letter and drawing to Marion Harland of the Ogden Standard (Utah) in 1916 or did you just <s>plagiarize</s> borrow it to use here?
(Okay, there is no actual compulsion for me to ask. It just seems to be a fun thing to do.)
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Mar 17, 2013#248
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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I swear to goodness I found it through my own beavering through Newspaper Archives when I posted it. I learned to search on my own but am eternally grateful for KK for giving me further search tools like the Fulton newspapers that I am presently perusing. I learn so much from this estimable Forum as you recently noted about one of my means of searching news from More/anytime/archives, if you recall from the top words available when you. Had I been more attentive I would not have asked KK the question about graph “dated word usages” that Google only recently provided. I discovered that, again, by my own surfing of the internet in a serendipitous way and not from here.
I did not ask for the coloring of the hair. You have your on ways of provoking your long desired virtual paddling. But whatever floats your boat as I have said before I am the last the cast a stone.
In connection with the 1916 ‘Ogden Standard’ graphic depicting the claimed female boarding school spanker, and its use in the 100th celebration post of this thread you said above on March 17 2013, 12:19 PM:
A response to my claim here that you had made such a request.
After discussing the ‘Ogden Standard’ article and the graphic, you said in this post in the thread a little before the 100th post celebration:
And subsequently in this post, the 99th in the thread, you said:
You must forgive me. English has only been my native tongue for a mere 70 years, so I still have considerable difficulty in understanding it. In making the above comments just prior to the 100th post you obviously didn’t mean produce a version of the graphic with red hair a la Renee (who is likened to Molly Ringwald) and put it in this thread to celebrate the 100th post. Silly me! How could I ever have thought such a thing!
Seriously, a little advice if I may please. If you’re going to contradict me at least check first. I do!
On a happier note, in the second of your posts linked above you mention the postcard you found of the red-headed teacher conducting the OTK spanking. If you’ve looked at the picture linked from my response to KK above you’ll have seen that TWP like it so much they have a copy on the renowned notice board so crucial to operations in the cyber-space conference room! </div>
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Mar 18, 2013#251
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Why, if I passively link a newspaper article that I have found for the benefit of our estimable Forum, is that somehow plagiarizing? Once the newspaper puts in their archives it’s fair game to share. Is it not public domain? Why say it came from such and such a source where the newspaper’s name is right in front of you? Where they got the story is their business? Maybe I’m missing something? Your discoloration of the teacher’s hair was your own doing or perhaps undoing.
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Mar 19, 2013#252
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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As far as I am aware, American Way has never been guilty of plagiarism. Nor has he been suspected of such. In fact, he has always been most careful to give the sources of all of his quotes. He is a good example to all in this regard. Amercian Way generally hyperlinks directly to source material rather than quoting or reproducing it, a practice which would be more convenient for readers.
I had thought American Way was the first to report the drawing from the Ogden Standard of August 26, 1916. I considered it useful evidence so used it in my origin of the paddle thread. Another-Lurker then pointed out he had used the drawing in his 100th post in which he correctly acknowledges the original.
There has been no plagiarism.
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Mar 20, 2013#253
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Latest Divorce Remedy by His Honor Oscar F Nelson. Only if he got his wish, how many marriages would be saved?
Spanking Machine as a divorce remedy a judge asserts in a divorce court. 1940 is rather late to be conjuring up that scenario.
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Mar 26, 2013#254
The end of the age of innocence has not come quite to an end as attested to in last Saturdays Brazilian Soap Opera (Morde Assorpa). The over the knee (McClintock) “palmadas” seems to be the position and instrument of correction.
The soap operas in the various areas of the world reflect plausible scenarios. Search parts of the world today and you will find places where school corporal punishment is practiced. Certain cultures are not in synch with the the dominant media. This is certainly the case where a group like Unlimited Justice brings in models that had no idea paddling still goes on in 19 states. The media acts as if these places don’t exists. As I have often noted people cannot separate fetish from good old fashion discipline. While countries are abolishing CP in the school it will be a lot harder to invade the privacy of the home and long standing tradition.
Television and movies had spankings where the male as the head of the household or as the dominant partner spanked (juvenilized) the mature woman, maintaining patriarchal roles. The age of innocence is over in the USA but not where gender differences are part and parcel of a culture. Men still spank women in Brazilian soap operas as attested to in last Saturday’s episode. There is no teetering among the observers that would make it look like a part of a love scene. It’s always, at least on mainstream telenovela, seen as an outlet for male anger. It certainly attracts a fetish interests in the sites that highlight them. This will take time for someone to find and will no doubt be picked up by you tube.
I’m sure there is the same prurient interests but to a lesser extent for there are remnants of a male dominated society still present for dramatizations are based on plausible happenings. Spanking as a prelude to sexual intercourse between consenting adults and is part and parcel of USA and by extension much of North America and Western Europe with our CNN culture and that goes beyond fetishism.
Gender role article is followed by a not to infrequent (as in the sixties here) “semi-consensual”, as not with a stranger, in the other links. I’m sure men are enjoying themselves carnally while relieving their anger for human nature is human nature but culturally men get away with it there but never here. Machismo has decreased as feminism has increased with the end of the age of the innocence. The first link delves in a scholarly fashion about gender roles in Brazil. The last is the video and second (translatable) background for the soap opera.
I don’t know much about the actress (third link) that is spanked but she is a looker.
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Albeit a few years back Brazil seems behind the curve when it comes to spanking in the media being a no no.
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Mar 29, 2013#255
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Innocence. Spanking Cure in Public. Spanking Post 1922.
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Loss of Innocence. Spanking Post 2011.
Is UK still fixated on the English vice? This is from your own mainstream media. I would be mortified. but, I make no judgments. Forgive me, but I had to ask.
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Mar 31, 2013#256
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Man’s Point. 1920.
If Wives Are To Be Spanked, Why Not Husbands?
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Woman’s Point. 1922.
Are Wives Happier Now Than When Spanking Was Thought Respectable? Point. 1922.
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Under My Thumb. Rolling Stones 1966.
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Under My Thumb. Rolling Stones 2006.
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Note the concession to political correctness (girl to woman) at :59. Damn Feminists!
A_L Thanks for letting me know about #t=??m??s. I don’t care what anyone says about you, I will never grow tired of defending you even against your most perspicacious and insightful critics. Consider me your loyal comrade. Kind of guy I am. American Way.
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There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Looks like the Rolling Stones lyrics refered to CP more often…
For example, Jumpin Jack Flash, released as a single in 1968, verse 2:
<p align=”left”><em>I was raised by a toothless, bearded hag,
<strong>I was schooled with a strap right across my back</strong>,
But it’s all right now, in fact, it’s a gas!
But it’s all right, Im jumpin jack flash,
Its a gas! gas! gas!</em>
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Considering the band was formed in London in 1962, I found the reference to the strap and odd one, wouldn’t they have been much more likely schooled with a cane across their back(sides)?
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There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Hi American Way,
Camille Paglia suggests the song is almost directly written from the following poem by William Blake : ‘the mental traveller’. There is clear reference to the rather odd form of Christianity endorsed by Blake, and one series of verses is redolent
I travelld thro a land of men,
A land of men and women too;
And heard and saw such dreadful things
As cold earth-wanderers never knew.
For there the Babe is born in joy 5
That was begotten in dire woe;
Just as we reap in joy the fruit
Which we in bitter tears did sow.
And if the Babe is born a boy
Hes given to a Woman Old, 10
Who nails him down upon a rock,
Catches his shrieks in cups of gold.
She binds iron thorns around his head,
She pierces both his hands and feet,
She cuts his heart out at his side, 15
To make it feel both cold and heat.
Her fingers number every nerve,
Just as a miser counts his gold;
She lives upon his shrieks and cries,
And she grows young as he grows old. 20
Till he becomes a bleeding Youth,
And she becomes a Virgin bright;
Then he rends up his manacles,
And binds her down for his delight
http://literaryballadarchive.com/PDF/Bl … ller_f.pdf
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Apr 08, 2013#259
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Cole Porter. In olden days a glimpse of stocking. Was looked on as something shocking. But now, Heaven knows, Anything goes. Walt Disney was strict about not wearing anything revealing or having sex scenes. It turned her into a virginal tease and not a turn on for me. She came from a strict Italian-American Catholic family. No one would give her a contract to write her story for there was nothing sensational they could write about her. What she acted on the screen she lived in real life. Sadly, her life was filled with broken marriages and a devastating case of MS leading to years of coma. Many in Hollywood felt her death was a blessing.
This headline would not be looked on in the same manner though many would feel today’s Teen Stars need to be taken down a notch or two. She was 17 when this headline appeared in a popular magazine.
Annette was 17 when she was interviewed in 1959. How Do Teen Stars Get Spanked?
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Thunder Alley. By 1967 she was 25 and her good girl days and bikinis were behind her. In 1967 Walt Disney died. And certainly she was too old for him to spank her.
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Good Night Sweet Angel.
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Apr 11, 2013#260
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Fort Worth TX 1953 Yearbook
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Eastern Hills High School Texas.
K. O. Vaughn and the Paddle. 1963
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In March of my senior year, Coach Howerton asked me if I had gotten any “licks” during the year. I said no. He said he was giving me two. I asked him why, as I hadn’t done anything. He said “Yes, you have, you just didn’t get caught.” So, he gave me two licks.
Howertons lesson stood in direct violation of Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat. But we were still too young and inexperienced to confidently confront situational authority…that would come later.
There’s a whole lot of paddling going on down there.
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K.O. and his paddle had nothing on the Coach. Mitcham had his weapon out on his desk and was seeing a nearly constant stream of bad boys reporting for their punishments. It was so extreme that we couldnt carry on a quiet conversation without being constantly interrupted. He suspended the afternoon sessions so we could talk.
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Dub was also one of the P.E. teachers and if I were to venture another guess . . . he didnt like that too much. I think he much preferred to coach the schools athletic teams. To amuse himself during our senior year, he instituted the Tough Tail contest in his P.E. classes. This contest established an award of sorts, for the guy that took the most licks during a semester. I dont know how long that went on, but was always surprised that it drew some active competition for the trophy.
Paddle Humor. K O Vaughn.
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Eastern Hills High School Fort Worth without corporal punishment.
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Already by 1940 with Public Enemy Number 1 the movie moral code prohibiting what the censors approved or disapproved had been established. RKO had series of musicals from 1933 to 1939 involving the greatest pair of dancers in the history of the cinema: Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire. The censors certainly wouldn’t allow a girl like Ginger Rogers flitter about in lingerie. Norman Foster has quite a knock out punch. The title Professional Sweetheart was changed in the UK the less incriminating Imaginary Sweetheart. Spanking sold tickets otherwise they wouldn’t use it so often for promotion. This was the case for Shirley Temple’s modest spanking as opposed to Ginger Rogers a decade earlier. I’ve posted the nine minute plus version for It’s a screwball romantic comedy that I, not surprisingly, liked. Billboard picture, review, video, promotional photo spanking, video photo spanking follow. With the usual caveat, the last two links are from adult portal sites with both modest photos.
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Follow up of Professional Sweet heart spanking of Ginger Rogers with a functional you tube scene and no adult content sites.
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Ginger Rogers Professional Sweetheart images are from her early days before the killjoys robbed the actresses from fully being themselves. Shame on them and not her. The repression led to the bifurcation of movies into dirty and clean movies but nothing beats a girl that’s brand spanking clean. Ginger promoted Ipsie Wipsie Wash Cloth Co. as the Purity Girl.
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She’s wicked, but I love her! And it’s hard not to love her in below iconic video.
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Repeat of iconic Professional Sweetheart spanking. Lovelier in the early 1930’s would be hard to find in this series taken from Professional Sweetheart.
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Spanking clean. Precode favorites at least mine. Meet the Baron 1933.
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Collegiate Cuties with the MGM girls as squeaky clean as allowed prior to censorship. Dance of the Shower Bath.
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May 28, 2013#262
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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There is no way that readers today would find much to laugh about as they did 70 years ago. Here is an excerpt from Look Magazine September 7, 1943. Keep in mind this was one of the largest magazines by subscription in the USA. The editor played along with a joke, maybe he didn’t take it that way, but that wouldn’t be acceptable today by a long shot.
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Rather humorous letters to the editor about spanking older girls.
SHE WHO GETS SPANKED
I have just read Joseph E. Warren’s letter in which he says he thinks it would do older girls a lot of good to get spanked, and it made me pretty mad. Although I am 17 years old, I still know what it’s like to get the hairbrush on my bare skin. For any girl my age to be put across her parent’s knee like that is just hateful and humiliating. My mother gets out the hairbrush whenever she loses her temper with me, and I can’t see that it does anything but relieve her temper, which comes back later. Mary Virginia Lewis
As president of the A.O. of A&A.S.G. (American Order of American and Adult Spanked Girls), it is my pleasant duty to announce that we have chosen the mother of little Cheryl Archer the “Most Sensible American Mother of 1943.” Although some members of our club are in their twenties (I’m 18), our parents follow Mrs. Archer’s formula of “good food, early bedtime, plenty of love, and a spanking when needed” — with emphasis on the spanking when needed. We take issue with Joseph Warren, who wagered that Cheryl Archer is the only girl in the U.S. over two who gets spanked. But he’s right when he says it would do them a world of good. The hand that spanks her bottom rules the girl! Arlene Millton
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May 29, 2013#263
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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The 1950’s provided a background of disgruntled homebound wives that led to many period advertisement showing working men returning from the real world of being gainfully employed to a compliant wife who kept a well run household. This is a permutation of that world that involves a joke that made sense then. Someone had a laugh at the expense of a very gullible woman.
How to tame your wife? Why spanking of course!
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Jun 01, 2013#264
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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Maybe to the liking of some postings slow down when I am away, such is the case for the full month of June so keep posting. I’ll try to stay current. I’ll leave with this story.
Hasta Luego!!!
The amazing Judge Hyman Lazarus.
1903. They didn’t have a clew? Surprise girls behave badly too? Judge Hyman Lazarus to the rescue.
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Punishment fits the crime. Once Hyman Lazarus decided a defendant was guilty of wife-beating. He too him beck to his chambers and returned rolling down his sleeve, and the defendant had a black eye.
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Or even better he lets her sit in his chair and choose the length of the sentence. She lets him off the hook so the judge tells them he’ll give them both six months if they return. Sixth column and third story from the bottom.
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A most peculiar story about Judge Lazarus
Son Is The Judge of Father’s Assailants.
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Jul 08, 2013#265
Sex and spanking are the subject of so much literature in the history of fiction. Naughty books and magazines were relegated to X-Rated bookstores in major cities. In New York City’s Time Square they became so prolific that the city issued permits where the stores would be separated by mandated distance. Today that is all by the wayside with the internet. The next frontiers are the mainstream novels, films and television programs.
Teenagers are more aware of their bodies at younger and younger ages and are more aware of the impact their bodies as sources of titillation. The brouhaha that ensued with the Tru TV Arkansas paddling, Oxford MS prom dress paddling and the recent case in Springtown, certainly indicates a discomfort that goes beyond the regional and cultural divide with men paddling post-pubescent girls. That hearkens all the way back to 30 years ago with the Shelly Gaspershon paddling in Dunn, North Carolina.
Is it wise to continue to paddle after a certain age? The popularity of Mommy porn, Fifty Shades of Grey, cannot go unnoticed however how many safe search settings controls mandated and libraries and schools as studies such as these enter the mainstream. The three fold growth in soft S-M interests, as indicated in this link, is a sure indicator that we have reached a point of no return in corporal punishment in the age of the innocence.
These factor need to be assessed and changes should be considered for if the they are not it will continue to be played out in the court of public opinion.
This recent story reflects the changes in sexual appetites from 30 years ago in France.
The trend towards expanding the sexual repertoire of French is confirmed with SM practices ‘soft’ on the increase compared to the 80s. Today, one in four women said they had received a spanking partner (24%) as against 8% in 1985.
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Twilight Days of High School Paddling USA.
Cuff Me The Fifty Shades of Grey Musical Parody.
With post pubescent adolescents being paddled can they be totally unaware of the fact that spanking as foreplay is not out of the question never mind sexual harassment?
Fayetteville Arkansas is last week was among 70 other areas the play is being acted. How much does the “raunch factor” play into school paddling?
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Not being unaware of this factor I somewhat addressed issue in January of this year.
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Jul 08, 2013#266
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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The cynic might say whether a paddling is seen as punishment or pleasure depends on the view o the teacher by the student and/or vv. Whilst I would think initially that this would only apply to cross gender paddling, of course in today’s metro sex society anything could go
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There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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I didn’t know where to share this, and it is not directly CP related, but it certainly speaks to that golden “age of innocence”, that I myself grew up in, and which very sadly has been forcibly <em>ripped</em> away from children today at ever-earlier ages.
A few weeks ago, our CBC (our national broadcaster) aired a fascinating documentary which in summary illustrated how society is intentionally perverting and adultifying children. (I’m glad it was on at 11pm where I presume most typical parents have already sent their kids to bed and are not watching such things!)
The irony is, we are collectvely revising laws to <em>raise</em> age limits for various interactions, and this is true in my country where the “age of consent” was raised from 14 to 16 just a few years ago (2008 I think). Yet, marketing and advertising is intentionally targetting young children, especially girls, to dress like “street walkers” at the age of seven and otherwise promoting the appearance of s*x objects, which when you think about it is rather repulsive if you want kids to be kids. As a parent, do you really want your child to be somehow “attractive” to god-knows-who, and for what purpose?
The things that shocked and horrified the most me was a recent survey of 13 y.o. girls, 22% of which admitted to having “backdoor” s*x within the last 60 days. ..that’s not in their lifetime, or in the last year even, but within 60 days! Apparently, this activity is considered the “new oral”. Maybe I was a really naive kid, but I certainly didn’t know such things existed until well into adulthood.
Is this yet one more reason what CP is no longer applied to a teen’s posterior? …as odds are this is already a sexified part of the body? Even as a teen, I would readily have taken punishment on the bottom (although no occassion occurred where that was necessary) and wouldn’t have given it a second thought … simply because I had no connection with that area being of s*xual utility.
Children are growing up way too fast, and with the internet et al, I don’t see how this kind of thing can reverse, but it is a sad state of affairs of what your future generations will look like. I shed a tear for the “age of innocence”.
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Aug 09, 2013#268
Heaven Bound. Bettie Mae Page (April 22, 1923)
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Heaven Bound 2009
Sir Elton John
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The Heaven Bound show was a short-lived (30 days) tribute enjoyed by Hollywood be devotees and tourists.
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The conditions found through as attested in you tube of the burial places of celebrities such as Bettie Page sadden me. I lived a month in Paris and visited cemeteries and they honor their dead whether famous or not. The tourists descend upon Hollywood cemeteries and find the overgrown grass covering humble stones. She will always be the Queen of Pin-Ups here and I’m sure their is a place of honor awaiting her.
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Sep 15, 2013#269
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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23 year-old-man spanks 19 year-old-girl unwillingly and publicly. That’s trouble with a Capitol T today but fun at Michigan State in 1950. It wouldn’t be news across the USA.
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Jim Morrison and Ed Sullivan. The odd couple.
http://youtu.be/NGaV2A6o0IM
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Sep 15, 2013#270
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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When I go off the beaten path or off topic I find something more off the beaten track. In case you missed it there is a collateral find. Shades of the Boston Tea Party. Plus, I love the whistling women of Trenton, New Jersey.
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London. The curse of strong drink is driving the British to soda pop. The National Association of Soft Drink Manufacturers reported the nation soaked up 225 million gallons of lemonade and such in 1949. This is twice the prewar average. So is the cost of beer and whiskey.
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Sep 15, 2013#271
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.
Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
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I cannot imagine very many who like beer and whiskey switched to soda pop. The soda pop drinkers have largely switched from water. Many kids now drink alcopops or RTDs which may have boosted soda pop consumption.
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Howertons lesson stood in direct violation of Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat. But we were still too young and inexperienced to confidently confront situational authority…that would come later.
There’s a whole lot of paddling going on down there.
K.O. and his paddle had nothing on the Coach. Mitcham had his weapon out on his desk and was seeing a nearly constant stream of bad boys reporting for their punishments. It was so extreme that we couldnt carry on a quiet conversation without being constantly interrupted. He suspended the afternoon sessions so we could talk.
Tough Tail contest.
Dub was also one of the P.E. teachers and if I were to venture another guess . . . he didnt like that too much. I think he much preferred to coach the schools athletic teams. To amuse himself during our senior year, he instituted the Tough Tail contest in his P.E. classes. This contest established an award of sorts, for the guy that took the most licks during a semester. I dont know how long that went on, but was always surprised that it drew some active competition for the trophy.
Paddle Humor. K O Vaughn.
Get the message.
Eastern Hills High School Fort Worth without corporal punishment.
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Already by 1940 with Public Enemy Number 1 the movie moral code prohibiting what the censors approved or disapproved had been established. RKO had series of musicals from 1933 to 1939 involving the greatest pair of dancers in the history of the cinema: Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire. The censors certainly wouldn’t allow a girl like Ginger Rogers flitter about in lingerie. Norman Foster has quite a knock out punch. The title Professional Sweetheart was changed in the UK the less incriminating Imaginary Sweetheart. Spanking sold tickets otherwise they wouldn’t use it so often for promotion. This was the case for Shirley Temple’s modest spanking as opposed to Ginger Rogers a decade earlier. I’ve posted the nine minute plus version for It’s a screwball romantic comedy that I, not surprisingly, liked. Billboard picture, review, video, promotional photo spanking, video photo spanking follow. With the usual caveat, the last two links are from adult portal sites with both modest photos.
Follow up of Professional Sweet heart spanking of Ginger Rogers with a functional you tube scene and no adult content sites.
Here is the September 5 2010 posting when a caveat was needed.
Ginger Rogers Professional Sweetheart images are from her early days before the killjoys robbed the actresses from fully being themselves. Shame on them and not her. The repression led to the bifurcation of movies into dirty and clean movies but nothing beats a girl that’s brand spanking clean. Ginger promoted Ipsie Wipsie Wash Cloth Co. as the Purity Girl.
She’s wicked, but I love her! And it’s hard not to love her in below iconic video.
Here are advertisement that shows that spanking sells tickets.
Repeat of iconic Professional Sweetheart spanking. Lovelier in the early 1930’s would be hard to find in this series taken from Professional Sweetheart.
Spanking clean. Precode favorites at least mine. Meet the Baron 1933.
Collegiate Cuties with the MGM girls as squeaky clean as allowed prior to censorship. Dance of the Shower Bath.
There is a popular caveat repeated often on reality television here that says on’t try this at home. It certainly applies here to the half dozen posting in a mainstream publication. Some of this information may seem irrevelant and others who have no interest in the American Way may find it yawnable but I hope some will eill enjoy and/or learn something about our history. Hollywood probably assures that many of this will not be unfamiliar to our estimable Forum.Google has become a souce of a mine lode of links especially when it comes to small city papers in the days of yore as I recently mentioned. Is this happening in regional papers in the UK.
In 1939 an article that would appear in the below links wouldn’t raise an eyebrow. The end of the innocence began here with kinky model Betty Page. The film on the Notorious Betty Page showed when that Senator Estes Kefauver TN attacked the effects of pornography on youth with her promoter Irving Klaw being questioned on Capitol Hill. Her promoter was upset that Kiss Me Kate with its famous spanking scene on stage in 1951 didn’t receive any censure or censor. Nothing pornographic here. I did find the pout with the wife rubbing her bottom ranking up there with a Norman Rockwell classic. It may become a best selling poster.
As I look back I wonder in 1939 whether the same mentality justifying nonconsensual corporal punishment for self gratification was operative in the home within moderation was found in the school. There is a universal moral compass IMHO called a conscience and I find many people must have found corporal punishment OTT and looked the other way back then. How many bare bottom spankings were given devoid of lustful motives? I would assume most but less likely than clothed. Pain and humilation was part of the punishment and I’m sure given by many with the best interests of the student in mind but were people aware what a temptation it was for some? They stopped doing it around the end of the age of innocence. What year or so was that in the UK? We have fewer boarding school so much of this wouldn’t apply as it did in the home. What shifting standards of motives in fashion and CP!!!
There is no way that readers today would find much to laugh about as they did 70 years ago. Here is an excerpt from Look Magazine September 7, 1943. Keep in mind this was one of the largest magazines by subscription in the USA. The editor played along with a joke, maybe he didn’t take it that way, but that wouldn’t be acceptable today by a long shot.
Rather humorous letters to the editor about spanking older girls.
SHE WHO GETS SPANKED
I have just read Joseph E. Warren’s letter in which he says he thinks it would do older girls a lot of good to get spanked, and it made me pretty mad. Although I am 17 years old, I still know what it’s like to get the hairbrush on my bare skin. For any girl my age to be put across her parent’s knee like that is just hateful and humiliating. My mother gets out the hairbrush whenever she loses her temper with me, and I can’t see that it does anything but relieve her temper, which comes back later. Mary Virginia Lewis
As president of the A.O. of A&A.S.G. (American Order of American and Adult Spanked Girls), it is my pleasant duty to announce that we have chosen the mother of little Cheryl Archer the “Most Sensible American Mother of 1943.” Although some members of our club are in their twenties (I’m 18), our parents follow Mrs. Archer’s formula of “good food, early bedtime, plenty of love, and a spanking when needed” — with emphasis on the spanking when needed. We take issue with Joseph Warren, who wagered that Cheryl Archer is the only girl in the U.S. over two who gets spanked. But he’s right when he says it would do them a world of good. The hand that spanks her bottom rules the girl! Arlene Millton