Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Apr 11, 2010#2
I find it fascinating that a paddle was being used in a schoolroom in 1950 in Oregon. Paddles were never used in the public schools in my area far from slavery and the south.
The law enforcement being involved in a case on 1950 (my birth year) must have been rare as the aim of the teacher.
15 year old girl paddled on her face
George Ryley Scott (peculiar expert on human torture and other best left unmentioned titles) link on paddle with holes thankfully an obsolete instrument of school correction with few defenders.
Paddle With Holes
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Apr 23, 2010#3
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Part of the African American culture is the whopping. Kelia Foster featured on Dr Phil was an advocate of CP referenced in Corpun. This is an excerpt from her 2006 blog that mentions the switch that played in the episode Basic Genealogy.
http://www.explorehoward.com/gallery.php?photo=122
CORPORAL PUNISHMENT
Growing up, if I misbehaved, talked backed or didnt mind my parents, there was one warning and then the next thing coming was a butt whopping. This whopping could have been done by either my mom or dad with the first thing they could put their hands one: a belt, an extension cord, a stick from a tree, a shoe or a stapler. Never looking forward to this, I tried to abide by all the rules my parents set forth in THEIR household. If I went to grandma, aunt or uncle it was ok for them to give me a whopping as well. They did not even have to call my parents because permission was already given.
When I came down to Mississippi and heard the word corporal punishment, I had NO clue as to what that was. After it was explained to me and I called my dad (who is from Mississippi) to see if he believed in it, his answer being, Yes, it was a part of my growing up in the public schools in Mississippi and it is still a very important part of the educational culture in Mississippi. With that being said from my Dad, and knowing that the kids I would be teaching would be mostly black and that they would probably be receptive to corporal punishment because they grew up with it in their household, I had no problem accepting corporal punishment. After contacting my teacher corps mentor and finding out the history behind it and the fact that many people in the communities still believe in it, I again had no problem accepting it. I am an outsider (non- Mississippian) coming into a community I am not from, so who am I to say that their method of discipline does not work. When I started the school year, I can remember being in the office and seeing the door close and hearing the student getting paddled. I was never privileged to witness one, I dont know why; its as if the administration didnt want me (an outsider) to be a witness to it. After getting to know the administration a little better I think I finally convinced them that I was worthy of being a witness. So during my 7th period planning the vice-principal started making me a hold the kids hands down on the desk while he paddled them. I can only say that I will make myself available this upcoming school year for the same thing.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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AW; Where did you get those last two paragraphs in your last post? Are those from Keila? I read the article you linked to but it was not included. My interest is because she said she was asked to hold a childs hands down.
I checked out her blog but the last entry was 3 years ago. That was before her appearance on Dr. Phil.
I would like to have a word with her.
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Apr 24, 2010#5
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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http://www.olemiss.edu/programs/mtc/Par … Foster.htm
Bob T: This is from the link on Keila Foster you were looking for.
http://keilams.blogspot.com/2006/06/cor … hment.html
Tiffany is not anti-CP zealot and her account to the Human Rights Watch is credible.
http://www.olemiss.edu/programs/mtc/Par … tlett.html
http://tiffanybartlett.blogspot.com/200 … hment.html
Widespread paddling can make it unlikely that forms will be checked. A teacher interviewed by Human Rights Watch, Tiffany Bartlett, said that when she taught in the Mississippi Delta, the policy was to lock the classroom doors when the bell rang, leaving stragglers to be paddled by an administrator patrolling the hallways. Bartlett now is a school teacher in Austin, Texas.
The bottom line is that there are abuses of corporal punishment without doubt and they’re not as few as many would like to believe. I think Bob T it comes to one’s threshold of what one defines as defiance from the Alabama “perpetrators” list. That’s worse then calling youngsters monsters.
Are students learning to avoid annoying their teachers? Are teachers paddling students that annoy them? After a paddling a some teachers says the slate is clean yet how often do hear them say that after Saturday detention? Why? I suspect some may think the other forms of punishment are not as effective but some may be over sold on it as it seems in the MS Delta area. Too much smoke not to believe there is not fire. Jessica Benson account linked below.
http://calstate.fullerton.edu/news/Insi … n-q-a.html
Here is a teacher that wants to remain anonymous but is nonetheless just as credible from her Mississippi Teacher Corps blog.
http://wanderingeph.blogspot.com/
During our first teacher work day, I went to lunch with many of the other teachers. As soon as Id picked up my food, the teacher sitting next to me started grilling me on my discipline policy and asked what I planned to use as punishments. As I went through my list (warnings, writing assignments, phone calls, detentions, office referrals, etc.), she kept barking at me, What else? and then proceeded to lecture me on how the kids were monsters who wouldnt do anything I told them to do unless I paddled them very hard. Other teachers chimed in their agreement, and after a meeting in the library, another teacher pulled me aside to give me more or less the same speech. When the principal started talking about corporal punishment, and I asked whether corporal punishment at the school was limited to paddling or included things like push-ups, the entire staff started laughing at me, and people I hadnt even met spent the next few days teasing me and asking if Id made any kids do push-ups.
These fruits of my research have made me more circumspect and nuanced on my views of school corporal punishment. On a lighter note, Bob T, when you said you would donate paddles to spank bullies and you want teachers to feel the paddle, I take it we have some shared bad memories of being tormented in the school and outside the school.
I’m not clairvoyant but I don’t think teachers will be paddling twenty five years from now. It’s not a matter of being on the right or wrong side of history but it is what it is. You’re doing your best to hold Renee et al feet to the ground justifying incidences and that’s fair turf. Keep in mind that bully teachers and bully students have taken its toll on both of us but we stay a Happy Circle when we can be real and we can kind. Bob T we’re not always kind but we are always real.
I hope these posts disabuse those who believe abuses are a thing of the past. It’s not to be minimized or rationalized but one cannot simply by invoking community standards. When these young teachers interact Deep Delta MS culture, without prior knowledge of community standards, there will be a rubbing of both cultures and the best of both will prevail. Isn’t that the American Way.
Bob T if you wish to write Keila Foster a letter I suggests you write through Dr Phil’s program. However wrongheaded she may be she comes from an African American experience and is almost young enough to be your daughter. So remember be real but be kind. I’ll have Grandma Barnes tell you to go cut a switch for her and give you a whopping.
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Apr 24, 2010#6
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Adam Ewing taught in Oxford MS where Sean D describes the scheme for corporal punishment in the HRW report in bold face print. I am not one who buys totally into that report but when buttressed by these testimonials them become more convincing. This snippet is from his blog.
Perhaps more shocking to me is the implicit (albeit sometimes begrudging) acceptance corporal punishment enjoys from the leaders, alumni, and second-year members of the Mississippi Teacher Corps. Some second-years see it as an embarrassing joke, many seem to accept it because they must, others pragmatically support it because they think it works, and some of my peers seem to even take a smattering of joy in assigning licks to their students (from what I understand, punishment is most commonly administered by each schools principal or assistant principal). I have asked my teachers and program leaders to engage in a classroom-wide discussion on this topic, and though they have always been welcoming to the idea, such a discussion has yet to happen. Whenever it comes up in class, the teachers eyes seem to roll and the usual answer is, Well have that discussion sometime later. The discussion/debate seems to carry a stigma because it has been both extended and heated in the past; I can imagine idealistic, virgin members of the Corps being pitted against the programs hardened veterans and Mississippi natives.
http://mississippiatlas.blogspot.com/20 … chive.html
December 14, 2007 HRW quotes a recent graduate of the town he taught in Oxford MS.
Another similarly vague term for which students are sometimes paddled is “defiance of authority,” which, as a recent high school graduate in Mississippi noted, “could be anything; that phrase could mean anything. Teachers threw it around all the time.
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Apr 24, 2010#7
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Hello American Way
you say:
I hope these posts disabuse those who believe abuses are a thing of the past……
I have just read through this thread of yours, including comments from new teachers.
these New teachers are not welcomed to schools with respect. Little attempt is made to encourage a new Teacher to be part of the Teaching Team. New Teachers do not have an communication channel to their superiors.
Question: Do the Princilples have a witnesses at their paddlengs ?
If a new teacher is a witness, they are unlikely to be creadible witness, in that the new teacher does not have a way of speaking to the Principle, so the Priciple can be abusive to a student, and paddle excessively, without considering alternative options, without the witness ever raising any complaint.
you also say:
I’m not clairvoyant but I don’t think teachers will be paddling twenty five years from now.
The Principles described here are not doing themselves any favours.
Their attitude is arrogant.
These Principles do not lead a happy team of teachers, very different to the thread about Anthony Price at Everman:
http://cbs11tv.com/video/?id=13331@ktvt.dayport.com
Teaching is most effective when students are relaxed and happy in their school environment.
Teachers themselves are most effective when they are happy in a well led school.
Arrogant Principles are abusive to Teachers as well as students.
Its the arrogance that needs to “go” not the Paddle.
Toby-John
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Apr 24, 2010#8
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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I have read through several accounts from the teacher chatboards where more young teachers than not are uncomfortable witnessing a paddling and not necessarily from the pain but arbitrariness and consistency of its use. Why arbitary? Teachers have their own rules. Why inconsistent? Teachers have their own days. You have to remember it’s the teachers not the principals that witness and report the behavior or do not report the behavior.
Arrogance is a result of absolute power and there is no checks and balances in schools that don’t give children appeals. The matrices I’ve constructed, not only have appeals, but forms that give a student a chance to put into words their grievance. Will the process leas to changes in punishments meted out? With mistaken identity a paddling can be avoided, even if only once a year, but for amelioration maybe quite more frequently. Dr Dominum listened to appeals occasionally made changes.
Anthony Price is a good principal; he teaches the teachers how to paddle safely and moderately. Getting a paddling or a detention for relatively minor misbehavior seems to avoid the long term negative impact of suspensions. It’s like getting a ticket for speeding before causing an accident. IMHO it is the unchecked authority where petty annoyances are seen as major acts of defiance. Nancy was paddled by a fair principal who had her best interests in mind. I don’t think the children from Everman or Booneville are leaving their respective schools scarred by their experiences, whether paddling led to a more an orderly environment for learning is a matter for debate by its citizens and not the courthouses and legislative halls of state capitols but from the students, parents and the teachers in their legislative bodies closer to home and their community standards. With transparency comes accountability and the petty dictators are exposed to be just that. The built in entitlements and bureaucratic traditions have encouraged an arrogance that manifests itself globally within school systems. Students are not autonomous and certainly need more guidelines and rules to maintain an ordered environment for learning but that should never be achieved without the utmost respect for the students.
The journal, practically speaking the blogs, available by searching: “Mississippi Teachers Corps Corporal Punishment” and a little patience show what happens when the innocence and idealism encounters schools as outsiders is helpful indeed. IMHO some of these young teachers expose some petty dictators and tricksters who have their students welfare foremost in mind. The young and inexperience respect the teachers and students and have a lifetime ahead of them with a hope of making changes with the courage to teach in a world so different than their own. It augurs well for them and makes me proud and hopeful for the American Way
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Apr 24, 2010#9
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Teaching is most effective when students are relaxed and happy in their school environment.
Teachers themselves are most effective when they are happy in a well led school.
Arrogant Principles are abusive to Teachers as well as students.
Its the arrogance that needs to “go” not the Paddle.
Toby-John
I don’t know if this is supposed to be a poem or words to live by, or what, but I was always most relaxed in a class of a teacher who didn’t believe in scp.
If they don’t have a paddle I can live with arrogance.
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Apr 24, 2010#10
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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AW; Thanks for the links, I will get to them when I can. Don’t worry about Keila, I just want to ask her some questions.
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Apr 24, 2010#11
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Bob T: I understand Toby-John’s POV but my experience with the Nuns were the same as yours. I do not disagree with Toby-John from a hypothetical POV when he wrote:
“I was always most relaxed in a class of a teacher who didn’t believe in scp.”
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Apr 24, 2010#12
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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AW; Toby didn’t write that. I did.
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Apr 24, 2010#13
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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I said:
Teaching is most effective when students are relaxed and happy in their school environment.
my exphasis was on Teaching be effective,
ie pupils LEARNING
not
on the pupils being relaxed !
The sentence may have been better written:
Teaching is most effective when students feel safe and able to learn in a well organised disciplined environment, with a strict but fair, quality teacher who is part of a strict but fair quality team.
Toby-John
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Apr 25, 2010#14
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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AW; I just got around to reading all of those new teachers accounts you posted links to ( some of them don’t work btw). Maybe you could get Renee or TWP to read those and give their comments.
To be fair I have been to the MS Delta and it is as poor as you can get. It always has been. I used to go to Oxford on a regular basis. It’s futher south and I am not sure it even qualifies as part of the delta. They don’t seem to be so poor there.
It does seem like things have not changed there as far as scp goes. It sounds the same or worse than when I was in school in S.IL.
This restraining kids to be paddled really rubs the wrong way. I don’t think it’s legal. Who knows about MS though. I always considered it “unlawful restraint” it’s a law that goes hand in hand with Kidnapping. If you get charged with Kidnapping you also get charged with Unlawful Resraint. They both carry stiff prison terms. And if you hit somebody while unlawfully restraining them it’s first degree aggravated battery (of a minor).
Let me tell you, you don’t want to end up in prison on those kind of charges. Those other prisoners (male or female) will have a use for your buttocks that you probably wouldn’t like any better than scp. They don’t like child abusers in prison.
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May 03, 2010#15
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Many anecdotal accounts have been given about this practice. Laser technology being what it is this a new one.
The thought of selecting your own instrument brings to mind Gillian Jacobs unfortunate selection. Any comments. Would the principal send them back to the drawing board. I would imagine the good two shoes would make the fiercest instruments or maybe thay wouldn’t have a clue for never being on the receiving end. prof n mentioned that I wasn’t paddled but in my defense I goot the stick, dowel like instuments of varying widths. Very clever of the sisters to buy at local household good store. Bob T of course would like to see the ladies of TWP get a taste of what they serve others, than a scientific domestic experience of our very own Renee.
I would imagine it would be up to the one administrator like Nana Barnes to judge whether it will make do.
Custom Made Modern Paddle
In the rural south a more bucolic, nonetheless, painful instrument of correction as Gillian Jacobs was to learn pants down and over Nana Barnes knee the old fashioned way.
Nana give it to me
YOU MONSTER
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May 03, 2010#16
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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There was no laser technology in the days of yore. I buy this as authentic. The age of the participants judging by photos with the name of the school Euclid Middle School near Cleveland, but above all from the specific names given of the teachers lends it enough credibilty for my likings. Sure somethings have changed, but changed everywhere, including born again Christian schools? Me thinks not. These are the stories that Corpun can’t and probably shouldn’t cover but their anecdotal accounts are etched in history, including Bob T memories and mine. The memories shared here are part of benign memories on facebook. One should never characterize those with less benign memories in a negative light. Many members of this Happy Circle seem to think being victims of caning less harmful than non corporal punishment, but don’t count Bob T or yours truly among them. CP hits closer to home, no pun intended. It sticks with me more than detention perhaps because of the stigma as well as the sting.
http://te-in.facebook.com/topic.php?uid … topic=9743
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Chirob
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May 03, 2010#17
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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AW; I got a couple of paddlings that I earned. I don’t feel bad about those at all. It’s the numerous ones that I didn’t deserve that still bother me.
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May 03, 2010#18
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Hi American Way
Interesting thoughts American Way. As I said on the TWP thread memories are memories, and none can be seen as more authentic than another, so it would indeed not surprise me if alongside the benign memories you linked on this post, there exist for certain kids, some less than benign recollections .
The problem is kids are not identical . They are each frankly individually wired, so to some the experience of cp is abuse, to others lines, yet others detentions, ISS and so on.On top of that , of course , any excessive punishment, or punishment without intended leaning outcome is abuse per se. There are, as you will know , various social typologies and psychological profiles which could help define these traits, and give us guidance, but as I said education is to a great extent , and certainly in the state sector a mass provision , so however desirable, the solution is too resource intensive.
Any single punishment whether paddling, detention whatever, will have its subsets of students for whom it will not work, be counterproductive and in extremis, be abusive.
In my case I considered a three hour detention much more unpleasant than corporal punishment, and moreover was a punishment , because it was boring and repetitive. amnd i was hyperactive , could have led to further infractions , for refusing to comply. As it happens I was lucky and allowed to write an essay which made matters bearable. But that’s me . Jenny subscribed the other day that to her doing 500 lines in a closed office would have made her conduct deteriorate, and maybe the office decor as well! . She would weigh up whether to skip detention or lines to receive a different punishment , in effect committing another offense in so doing. You experienced the ‘Nuns’ and their impact was clearly very negative ,and I could go on.
That’s why I’ve come round to support a toolkit approach , where teachers are trusted use their knowledge on the ground to select effective strategies for discipline management related to the child. Now that is a very tall order and requires a fundamental adjustment in thinking from a straight forward punitive approach this is nasty ,and intended primarily to deter repetition, to an approach which prioritizes what we want to see as the end result, hopefully future compliance and ‘behavioral adjustment ‘.The problem in ?Britain is that the toolkit has been left pretty bare ., particularly in some areas of the country where they are rapidly closing designated behavioral units
Of course its not a fix all solution, it requires some co operation and assumes honesty from the student , but if that is present, and with respect between the parties it should be achievable , it provides a firm platform on which to build, and not to break trust on either side.
As Renee said some time ago in response to this the problem in an American context comes from the way in which equality is understood in a quasi legal form. Because as has been said before this forum to treat the unequal equally is no equality at all. Over here , hopefully, we are more flexible. However we have a problem you apparently don’t the unions , or certain ones anyway will not so-operate with Saturday detention, or after hours……..extra contractual hours.
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May 03, 2010#19
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Hi prof.n
Jenny subscribed the other day that to her doing 500 lines in a closed office would have made her conduct deteriorate, and maybe the office decor as well!
To say nothing of the fabric of the building!
Because as has been said before this forum to treat the unequal equally is no equality at all.
My objection would be to being given some punishment different from what other, equally guilty, offenders received. Much as I detested detention and would far rather have had the slipper, I did detention a few times because that was either the usual punishment for the offence or because a group of us were all given detention (likewise lines). In such cases, I was not being treated more (or less) harshly because of my sex. If we had all been given the choice of detention or the slipper I would probably have chosen the slipper regardless of what the others chose but, as we were all being treated equally, I accepted the punishment given. Equally, I would feel offended if I got let off with the slipper whilst my “partners in crime” got a detention – unless I knew that, given the choice, that’s what they would have chosen.
I can accept that treating the unequal equally can be unfair, but presuming inequality were none exists is also unfair.
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May 03, 2010#20
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Hi Jenny
Also the other way round.
Treating the equal unequally is also unfair
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May 05, 2010#21
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Hi Jenny , Willyeckalike,
Jenny said :
I can accept that treating the unequal equally can be unfair, but presuming inequality were none exists is also unfair.
And Willy
Treating the equal unequally is also unfair
To me the problem is this. Every one of us is individual, no one is average. We define the world through the lenses we choose to use – sex, ethnicity, belief system, financial status ,IQ whatever. In reality as Weber indicated ( and I’m no lover of the man)we all are located an the nexus of cross cutting social and economic groups, which ascribe status values.
But when we analyse we give priority to some and not to others . so our notion of equality is partial, selective and purposive. Purposive? Yes because our selection of criteria is determined by the questions we want to ask, and the answers we want to get……..
I don’t want to go back to black swans and Popper, but its very much the same thing. All modelling is purposive and exclusive in the strong sense of the words. It excludes without debate or aforethought………
Can we avoid this? Well it would be good if we could, because at the moment we all appear to ask the same questions, but in reality we all have presupposive answers. There is no such thing as a blank canvas, because we only understand and interpret through our own experience.
In teaching I’m convinced the nearest grouping to the questions and answers of modern pedagogy are given by splitting the taught into groups around teaching and learning strategies , (ie related to psychology and social learning typologies ). some of these groups may be all or largely of one gender , religion whatever, but it would be the way, and similarly cross cutting strategies for behavioural adjustment.
You see so long as we stay as we are , accepting the rituals of modernism, PC, etc, we fall into the trap of the privileged doing better and better , faster and faster than anyone else. so then social background, financial power, and familial educational status are always the determinant of success.
I grade that unsatisfactory!
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May 05, 2010#22
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Hi prof.n
In teaching I’m convinced the nearest grouping to the questions and answers of modern pedagogy are given by splitting the taught into groups around teaching and learning strategies , (ie related to psychology and social learning typologies ). some of these groups may be all or largely of one gender , religion whatever, but it would be the way, and similarly cross cutting strategies for behavioural adjustment.
Where students are split into groups according the their learning methods, the discrimination is based on a relevant factor – even when that factor is far more common in one sex than the other. The rare members of the opposite sex who also possess that factor are not excluded because they’re the “wrong” sex. If, however, discrimination is based on sex (a co-incidental factor), atypical members of the opposite sex would be excluded.
It’s not difficult to see why very bright pupils are taught differently from the less able. “Fairness” isn’t usually even a consideration, it’s just a matter of helping each child make the most of whatever talents he or she has. In the matter of punishment, fairness, and the perception of fairness, very definitely come into play. It’s not obvious why, when two pupils commit identical offences, both having the same understanding of the rules and both having the same antecedence, one of them is caned and the other just asked nicely not to do it again or, possibly, given some token punishment. What does that teach them? The former learns that breaking the rules has undesirable consequences; the latter learns that rules can be ignored with impunity.
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May 29, 2010#23
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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If mammals were rods how would you describe this Vietnamese instrument of correction? Duck bill platypos? It’s not quite a cane, ruler or paddle but seems to do the trick. Was it design specifically for that purpose? Through the Google translation the exercise is taken lightly (mosquito flapping) but I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end. Within a native context you don’t get the outrage from outside and won’t unless put on youtube internationally that may be more likely if found in the Corpun monthly update.
A few questions come to my mind? Are girls spared the rod while lying on their tummies? Are pants ever removed as one (fantasy or fact) commentator wanted to see happen to the girls? It would seem lying flat down is considered the severest and may and girls may or may not spared that indignity from a Corpun Video? The length of the punishment seems interminable and varying the intensity in front of the class would show favoritism.
IMO there is little sympathy shown perhaps because they feel the punishment is just and their misbehavior is tolerable because no instruction is occurring so learning is not being disrupted unless by learning one means by example.
If Shirley Temple comes up again I’m going to shoot myself?
http://www.lookatvietnam.com/2009/09/pa … hment.html
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Jun 05, 2010#24
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Admidst the many forms of school corporal punishment is the dreaded switch. Our country yore is replete with stories of schoolmarms punishing naughty school children. As the frontiers pushed the borders of our country into newer regions schools became makeshifts and woman who had no children of their own help raised educate the others’ children. The men were hands on doing work on the outside so headmasters were rare and children left school after they could read and write and in most cases for girls to sew as well.
The dreaded switch
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Jun 05, 2010#25
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The child sent out to find a hickory stick is not much different than a youngster in woodshop making a paddle for their own correction.
Learning to the tune of the hickory stick.
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Lick Em and Larn Em
Corporal punishment – inflicted by both male and female teachers – was not uncommon. Rulers and hickory switches which could cut through both clothing and flesh were liberally applied to ill-behaved students as a school discipline measure.
Take a look at these Common schoolhouse crimes and punishments:
3 lashes – for disrupting the class
4 lashes – for being late
4 lashes – for boys & girls playing together
6 lashes – for “sassing the teacher”
7 lashes – for telling lies
8 lashes – for swearing
10 lashes – for “misbehaving to girls”
10 lashes – for playing cards during recess
Discipline in an old west one room schoolhouse
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Jun 06, 2010#26
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The old picture of a child sitting in the corner with a “dunce cap” on their head was in fact actually used by some frontier teachers as a school discipline measure. However it was reserved mostly for minor infractions such as ‘not reciting lessons correctly’, or ‘interrupting the teacher’.
The switch over from the switch to the paddle reflects post slavery attested to the picture of Abraham Lincoln in the picture below. Is that a statute of Jesus under Washington?
Classroom Period Piece
The flickr picture is from this very school room.
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Jun 06, 2010#27
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Americaway wrote:
The switch over from the switch to the paddle reflects post slavery attested to the picture of Abraham Lincoln in the picture below. Is that a statute of Jesus under Washington?
Classroom Period Piece
The flickr picture is from this very school room.
The picture shows a faily rough mockup. The electric light fittings, windows, walls and highly polished floor look very modern. The desks and some of the other objects may be from an earlier time.
I do not understand how or why the paddle came to be used in USA schools. There is clear evidence that slaves were paddled. It has been suggested the paddle was favoured because it was less likely to leave long lasting marks that might affect the resale value of the slave. But what has this to do with schools? (The slave states did become the main school paddling states).
Fraternities used the paddle. Graduates who may have been in fraternites started to be recruited as teachers in the 1880’s. This was a time of reform and a move towards kinder child rearing practices. Perhaps these factors are connected?
But why did fraternities adopt the paddle?
Are the hornbook or shingle classroom precurors?
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Jun 06, 2010#28
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Just a theory but the paddling custom of a fraternity or sorority was that the upperclassmen made their pledges slave for them during a brief initiation period to prove their loyalty. Colleges atarted hazing over 100 years ago.
The paddle not only left fewer marks closer to auction day, a rebellious or lazy slave brought in less money. Paddles were often used by slave owners on women and children for it was considered gentler.
The use of the paddle on a child’s buttocks was probably considered kinder than the “lash” but also established the teachers authority. This is just a theory. Corporal punishment has such a history in this country considering how young a nation we are. New England appropriated the means of the UK while the south the padddle and the frontier the hickory stick. One thing for sure there was a lot more order and respect for elders.
Community values were respected and teachers were free to use or refrain from using but it was a tool usually clearly on display.
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Jun 11, 2010#29
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Living museums have become tourists attractions. Choose your instrument? This 1850 Virginia (pre-Emancipation of slaves has two instruments of correction the paddle and the stick. The large paddle appears to be resting on the desk. The hickory stick Hickory stick in the corner. The stick is from the 18th century frontier days and the paddle from slavery days.
The switch for the little boy. The woman ringing the bell looks like she has still another instrument of correction perhaps a small paddle for over the knee.
Assuming the postion for the switch
Ringing the bell with a small paddle
President Milliard Filmore in the 1850’a appears on the wall with paddle and hickory stick
School corporal punishment was very controversial in 1850’s and in the North Henry David Thoreau resigned from his teaching position when superiors insisted he administer corporal punishment on his grammar school students. His civil disobedience went beyoond slavery. Thoreau was lucky to find a job teaching at the Concord Center School Massachusetts, but he resigned after just two weeks because he disagreed with the school’s policy of using corporal punishment on its students.
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Jun 11, 2010#30
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Hi American Way. If that really is Millard Fillmore in that picture my congratulations! You must know your US Presidents very well to identify him, even on the biggest of the Flickr pictures. I certainly couldn’t identify a picture of John Russell, 1st Earl Russell, who was UK Prime Minister 1850 to 1852, even if it filled the entire screen! Interestingly he was a member of the Whig party, as was Millard Fillmore.
But I digress. I have studied the picture you caption ‘President Milliard Filmore in the 1850’a appears on the wall with paddle and hickory stick’ very closely and I’m darned if I can see a paddle. I can see a stick, which may or may not be hickory, but it appears to be the sort used by elderly or injured persons to assist ambulation, not the sort used to beat children – at least I hope not!
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Jun 11, 2010#31
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Paddle reference. The paddle shape is much more likely than the Oxford Principal video in the Prom Paddling thread that highlights the centrality of football in the south. Goodness, a coach change was worth an interview?
http://www.maliasmiles.com/blueridge/vaexplore.htm
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hcsj44
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Jun 11, 2010#32
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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I think you will find the paddle is sitting on top of the desk. As to the stick – I had one in the 1960s that wasn’t much different, made from thick rattan with the root culm as a handle. It was sold as a punishment implement but caused nasty bruises. I would describe it as brutal.
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Jun 12, 2010#33
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Thank you hcj and American Way. I can indeed see the paddle now. It is rightly said that the best way to hide something is to leave it in full view! The stick in the corner, on which hcj makes interesting observations, is certainly not the one with which the teacher is chastising the boy in the ‘Assuming the postion for the switch’ link, though it does still appear to be leaning up in the corner in that photograph. Perhaps the large stick was for use on the big boys and (in deference to Jenny ) girls.
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Jun 14, 2010#34
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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American Way, I am responding to your last post in the “serious question” thread here because I think it is better not to digress from the important current subject there.
You wrote: From what I can gather from Dr Dominum’s running lists this offense would not merit six of the best. I am amused by that expression. Would they be six of the average?
Doctor Dominum may like to clarify, but I think it probably would be at the high end of penalties. As to the difference between average and best cane strokes, I think Dr. D. has explained this before. “The best” involves rather more forceful strokes and a longer period between them. The expression “the best” is traditional, even if a bit silly. Maybe it should be “the worst”!
Would all school canes be more alike by age now that there are fewer and fewer vendors?
Although there were more vendors, I don’t think there were ever many makers. A cane importer in South East England was by far the biggest supplier, sending huge numbers of canes around the world. I did have the figures, but I am sorry, I have lost them at the moment.
Canes are natural materials and every one is different, even those made today. Apparently small differences can have a significant effect on the results.
Canes do have an advantages over paddles for today there seems to be only “kinky paddles” and none sold for educational purposes. RWP has been struggling with finding the perfect paddle for sometime.
I could suggest some suppliers in South Korea,who only sell implements for educational use,if Renée is interested.
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Jun 14, 2010#35
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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hcj You’re right as usual. I’m sorry it would be more appropriate to have placed this under this thread. I posts so frequently it just didn’t cross my mind. I have posted something there just now. Since Renee cannot give her email address, while it is pure speculation, many more people read this network forum between private (unreported paddlers) and public school here than TWP. Why? Corporal punishment is a subject that anyone who Googles knows about as opposed to TWP. I’m sure our honorary lifetime member, Paula Flowe, is well aware of this estimable Forum and is one of the reasons why Renee doesn’t want to become a member.
I think Renee and I’m sure others are concerned with the size that varies from school to school. Some schools are quite specific while others are so vague they say facsimile thereof. It’s not fair for a child to be paddled with a college paddle as frequently used because it is readily available and used at my cousin’s school. She would never paddle a student for she thinks that parents take their kids to school everyday. She has a point how can you act in loco parentis when the parents are living around the corner and with their church they have a common bond. I have never seen Korean paddles that resemble ones here. Too often the way they administer corporal punishment is not my cup of tea, even one sip. An observation is not a censure.
If you cannot give a URL maybe the dimension?
Back to the other point of “six of the worst”, would you tell the student anything less? Why not just give fewer strokes ot is that defacto given? I’m still “relatively” new here and not at all familiar with the cane, if you don’t include the “sisters” different width pool sticks. Give them credit for their creativity. The strap and only on the bottom and only in the principals office was used in my nearest public school.
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Jun 14, 2010#36
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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American Way, you wrote: I have never seen Korean paddles that resemble ones here.
No, I’m sorry that I may have misled you. The company I had in mind make implements that are more “baton” style, but they would probably supply US style paddles to special order. Their main business is in other handmade woodcraft items that are nothing to do with cp.
You say you do not like what you have seen of Korean punishment. Perhaps I can just quote a brief extract of a letter from a Canadian teacher who spent some time in a Korean school:
I’d like to point out that the kind of physical punishment typical in Korea is quite mild: a few taps on the hand, leg or whatever, that sting for a few seconds. The extreme cases are not everyday occurrences. When I did martial arts in Korea, I got some physical punishment (getting hit with a stick) as part and parcel of the training, and it was of short duration and not all that bad. Comparing this quick thing with the kind of protracted spankings etc I got a few times from my parents as a child is like comparing a grape to a watermelon.
As with other places, I am sure there are examples of good and bad practice.
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Jun 14, 2010#37
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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the way they administer corporal punishment that I should have qualified by saying in front of others as was the case in my time and place and a handful of places in the states. Most handbooks have in common that it is not to be done in front of others in a classroom. I’m not comfortable with group office paddling although that provides transparency of fairness among their fellows. I know it’s not done, thankfully, in front of others most places here. Some exceptions include a Memphis charter school and a Louisiana Christian school that don’t provide the privacy that we have become accustomed to in our pluralistic society. That being said, the sisters of no mercy, administered corporal punishment in front of the whole high school class in a homogeneous one. It must have been embarrassing for some boy to be hit by a woman their grandmother’s age or for a girl (my older sister’s 17 year old classmate) in front of a mixed gender classroom. IMO charter, military and Christian schools are more likely to forgo the niceties of privacy for they are homogeneous.
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Jul 12, 2010#38
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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In the States there is a variety of instruments of correction used to keep children in line. This is from a popular night soap opera, Desperate Housewives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHmJFPmDvrs
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Aug 14, 2010#39
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Although somewhat off topic again but what else is new for the American Way, here are birch rod specifications for judicial and not school corporal punishment. A few schools here spell out graded paddles while I understand that’s standard fare with the cane. It is sad to see juveniles as judicial as opposed to school corporal punishment under ten but we had reform schools here.
http://www.bl.uk/learning/images/21cc/c … 1646.htmlp
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Aug 14, 2010#40
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Correction.
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Aug 28, 2010#41
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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One of the harshest instruments of correction is the knout used on a student in William M Cooper’s History of the Rod. There was a recent documentary that I didn’t bookmark showing a lady being spared the indignity of exposure by having her lower torso flogged by the knout with only her tormented face shown. It was a “fictional historical” documentary worth noting for its credibility. that form of whipping often led to death but in her this case it was a thorough chastisement. Please post if you find it. Why I didn’t bookmark I’ll never know.
Cooper’s book relates the following. A lady of rank (domestics were not treated with such deference) was summoned to the secret police and was asked to come forward where a trap door suddenly gave way under her, and she slipped down till she was supported only by her clothes, which had gathered up all around her arms; she hung through the ceiling of the re room below, where a man plied a whip on her unprotected body. I’m not saying it happened but it must be a part of their collected narrative to appear in a serious documentary like fiction. What instrument of correction would have been used years ago in that general region?
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Sep 04, 2010#42
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The history of the instrument of correction by its strongest opponents (e.g. Paula Flowe) hearkens back to slavery where a slave could be corporally chastised without leaving telltale signs that a lashing would. It would lower the value at auction to know a slave was recently incorrigible.
It is a dramatic explanation that doesnt fully explain why whites (still so) have been the ones most often on the receiving end, however disproportionately by race. The last enclaves of corporal punishment in the schools and the homes are often in the areas where spare the rod and spoil the child prevails. This is primarily in the rural south. The anti-CP lobby has made great inroads in urban areas with pluralistic values.
The vocabulary of the rural south lingers when you hear words like licks and woodshed. The popular show the Beverly Hillbilly humor was based on the juxtaposition of the two worlds. For Jethro and Ellie Mae the woodshed was never far away from the mansion.
The “word lingo” points to the shingle in the woodshed (male domain) having a lot to with the evolution of the use of the paddle. The rural south was more likely to be using a paddle while the strap (male belt) was used in the public school in the urban northeast 50 years ago. The corporal punishment of girls was rare. Some say with choice the female are getting paddled more proportionally from anecdotal accounts found in the teachers chat board.
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Ellie Mae was always attired dressed like girl being taken to the woodshed. She raised more than eyebrows back in the sixties.
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Sep 04, 2010#43
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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In the “Lingo Link Search” put paddle spanking and then voila.
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Nov 02, 2010#44
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Like the knout, the Korean paddle is to be feared. Modified from judicial corporal punishment is used in the school. Of note is that Seoul will no longer permit caning or exercises as of a few weeks ago.
In New England children on field trips play act some of the Puritan tortures and I take by the levity this is the case with mock bonding. Historical story followed by a not so pleasant encounter and then mocked one. It’s a form of crucifixion.
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Nov 08, 2010#45
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The instrument of correction, the switch, is a generational matter when it comes to Black cultural history. Holly Robinson-Peete in the talk show starting at 6:00 minutes does something politically incorrect and can lead to a knock of a dorr from a social service agency. Is spanking against the law? No. But what constitutes abuse. Holly takes a position more likely to be taken by a fellow African American. N.B. She is 46 so her grandmother would be of the generation that would switch Holly’s mom. Corporal punishment got passed down but in a milder form.
I asked an eight grader why his grandparents treat him so well and while all kids hear about how strict they were with them growing up? I explained that your parents have to play the heavy while your grandparent can afford to spoil you for they’re not responsible. The boy said no, it’s because they didn’t have child abuse laws back then.
Interesting if you read the dialogue from Nana Barnes switching Britta the issue wasn’t so much teasing her for being quite the item (quite flattering) when she was young but for her to call her Nana without being properly introduced. In a sense she was saying if you want to be family get me a switch. Troy’s cry she’s not family is just the point Nana Barnes wants to make.
Britta chose a difficult way to prove Troy wrong in believing that her mother was a sweet old wheel chair bound nursing home resident.
In the closing scene where Britta has changed and finds it too painful to sit at the bar, she respectfully calls her M’am but lays into her by calling her a monster while she rubs her bottom. Because she says you’re right in saying (before she met her) that she was a monster he was not acting like family and was to be switched as a result.
Six minutes into the first link the African American connection is made. The second link shows the flak she gets for her pro CP position and the courage she showed in expressing it. The third link gives a pictorial of the encounter with Britta condescendingly looking down at Nana. The fourth is the scene at the bar with the precious “put on” pose of Britta as she looks down in anger at Nana is in the last link. And of course the penultimate is the shortened version of the switching.
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Nov 08, 2010#46
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Try this for the third link. How many men do you think I have laid with? Respect your elders by first being told what to call me. If she knew her she wouldn’t ask that question.
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Nov 25, 2010#47
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Cane and very old paddle. Vintage school rooms have this shaped paddle while later ones were like fraternity and sorority ones. Fascinating?
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Mar 11, 2011#48
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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In my neighboring public school the principal had a strap/belt was used and NOT a paddle. This MS school refers to “licks” with a 3 inch rubber strap in the 1950’s corresponding to my older siblings time frame but in the Northeast. So much for those who doubted the veracity of my account that straps were used south of the Canadian border outside prisons and reformatories. Today school officials don’t think twice about having a girl bend over or change the dose. The girls wouldn’t mind they asked for it.
Where has decorum and manners gone? With Scarlett O’Hara and Gone with the Wind? Men use to fight to protect women and children and would even allow them the courtesy of of first dibs for a life raft in a sinking ship. Men would fight wars to protect them. Are we really better off ignoring differences of gender by surrendering to the expediency of political correctness? Like all pendulums they never stay still. Some people are even shy in addressing a group of adults as ladies and gentlemen. I don’t consider myself among that group.
Maybe the strap would make for less colorful headlines than a bruising paddle and would inflict similar pain. The strap often had a different target than the bottom.
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Mar 11, 2011#49
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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A paddle and a riding crop on the same day used by this former Germnan slave labor camp survivor, Bohden Pashkowsky.
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Mar 17, 2011#50
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The riding crop was an educational exhibit not a disciplinary tool.
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A paddle and a riding crop on the same day used by this former Germnan slave labor camp survivor, Bohden Pashkowsky.
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One person’s theory on the evolution of instruments of correction. I’m not in complete agreement but some of this makes sense. The part about urbanization and mass education may play a role in the decline of the use of the paddle. More about that in my next posting under TWP.
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Jun 15, 2011#52
Part of the African American culture is the whopping. Kelia Foster featured on Dr Phil was an advocate of CP referenced in Corpun. This is an excerpt from her 2006 blog that mentions the switch that played in the episode Basic Genealogy.
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CORPORAL PUNISHMENT
Growing up, if I misbehaved, talked backed or didnt mind my parents, there was one warning and then the next thing coming was a butt whopping. This whopping could have been done by either my mom or dad with the first thing they could put their hands one: a belt, an extension cord, a stick from a tree, a shoe or a stapler. Never looking forward to this, I tried to abide by all the rules my parents set forth in THEIR household. If I went to grandma, aunt or uncle it was ok for them to give me a whopping as well. They did not even have to call my parents because permission was already given.
When I came down to Mississippi and heard the word corporal punishment, I had NO clue as to what that was. After it was explained to me and I called my dad (who is from Mississippi) to see if he believed in it, his answer being, Yes, it was a part of my growing up in the public schools in Mississippi and it is still a very important part of the educational culture in Mississippi. With that being said from my Dad, and knowing that the kids I would be teaching would be mostly black and that they would probably be receptive to corporal punishment because they grew up with it in their household, I had no problem accepting corporal punishment. After contacting my teacher corps mentor and finding out the history behind it and the fact that many people in the communities still believe in it, I again had no problem accepting it. I am an outsider (non- Mississippian) coming into a community I am not from, so who am I to say that their method of discipline does not work. When I started the school year, I can remember being in the office and seeing the door close and hearing the student getting paddled. I was never privileged to witness one, I dont know why; its as if the administration didnt want me (an outsider) to be a witness to it. After getting to know the administration a little better I think I finally convinced them that I was worthy of being a witness. So during my 7th period planning the vice-principal started making me a hold the kids hands down on the desk while he paddled them. I can only say that I will make myself available this upcoming school year for the same thing.
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In light of the paddling and caning of 17 year olds (prom paddling) and our headmistress poster it should be noted that few of these girls would be “spanked” at home because and because of childhood obesity, especially the gluteus maximus with emphasis on maximus, an instrument of correction other than the hand may have been needed. Renee mentioned that she would have experienced double jeopardy with her father’s belt if she misbehaved in school on the high school level. One would have to wonder whether this girl was being just brattish or may have had special needs, something that would not be considered then but not now. Certainly this posting is relevant to school corporal punishment by extrapolation for the miscreant was a schoolgirl. BTW. The cop (constable on patrol) came in the nick of time. Sunday is Father’s Day here. My Dad would not have enabled that mother but would have diffused the situation differently. He despised nor would he allow us to call him a cop for its British roots. He thought of himself as a sworn officer of the law. There was a day when all you needed was a billy club and the words stop in the name of the law and not cuffs and guns. Then is then and now is now.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Spoons are for cooking. Belts are for holding up pants. Hands are for loving. Rods are for chastening. You don’t get chastened in public or parochial school but among that sad lot called born agains. I guess belts and wooden spoons were cutting into their business. Their product beats the others hands down. The others don’t have a smooth handle.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi American way. A most interesting post. The lady holding the ‘rod’ looks fairly modern, and the rod she is holding certainly appears to be the one in the advert. But surely adverts in that old fashioned style can’t date from any later than the 1950s!
The rod looks a vicious implement, and it would be interested to know why the advertiser thought that Proverbs 22:15 and Proverbs 23:13-14
<div style=”margin-left:40px;margin-right:40px;font-style:italic;”>Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.
Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.</div>
were mandating the use of nylon, which I seem to recall reading is a particularly unpleasant material to be beaten with.
For some reason I had failed to read your previous post in the thread. The Officer’s exit line is superb! I recall policemen like that from my youth, UK contemporaries of your Father I guess.</div>
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The dreaded razor strop was a staple of paternal corporal punishment in the past. At least 4 times a year I have a barbers shave. It’s costly but a real treat.
Straight edge razors are out of fashion but as Renee mentioned her father’s belt would await her if she was paddled at school in TWP.
Final instrument of correction: Anecdote story (Hazel Hurd posture a bonus) followed by Cowcatcher’s Daughter photo and video. More to follow in Moonlighting thread.
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Aug 27, 2011#56
Spoons are for cooking. Belts are for holding up pants. Hands are for loving. Rods are for chastening. You don’t get chastened in public or parochial school but among that sad lot called born agains. I guess belts and wooden spoons were cutting into their business. Their product beats the others hands down. The others don’t have a smooth handle.
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The issue of which instrument of correction is best to use is not a new one. I enjoyed the illustrations.
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Aug 29, 2011#57
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The early days of the USA there was much mention of ferrules and rawhide where either the hands and the bottoms were targets of corporal punishment. The last link gives an array of instruments of correction worthy of former Vice-President Dick Cheney or the Founding Father of enhanced interrogation.
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“The early instruments used in school discipline were the cat-o’-nine tails and the rod, and there were various modes of punishment, carrying the offender on the back of a pupil and then flogging him, seating the boys with the girls and the girls with the boys, fastening a split stick to the ear or the nose, laying the scholar over the knee and applying the ferrule to the part on which he sat. These punishments were in vogue for years after the common schools were established. For the benefit of young teachers I will give the mode of correction. The masters invariably kept what was called toms, or, more vulgarly, cat-o’-ninetails, all luck being in odd numbers. This instrument of torture was an oaken stick about twelve inches long, to which was attached a piece of rawhide cut in strips, twisted while wet, and then dried. It was freely used for correction, and those who were thus corrected did not soon forget it, and not a few carried the marks during life. Another and no less cruel instrument was a green cowhide.”
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Sep 01, 2011#58
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Bare bottom corporal punishment occurred right up to the early seventies in boys training schools. IMHO solitary confinement for thirty days is cruel and unusual punishment.
Robert P. Heyne says strap is safer than the paddle (first link). Second link mentions 5 on the bare max. Third link notes how corporal punishment was stopped by court order.
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Sep 03, 2011#59
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Strap became the preferred instrument of correction over the cane. Here is to the centennial of the schoolboy strike. September 13, 1911.
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September 27, 1911
THE USE OF THE CANE.
PROHIBITED IN NORTH CANTERBURY.
The English school children who went out on strike the other day seem to have made the abolition of the cane as an instrument of corporal punishment one of the planks of their strike platform. “No cant, less work, and more holidays in hot weather,” comprised their short but comprehensive program of reform. It is rather interesting to note (says the Lyttelton Tunes) that the use of a cane or stick for the infliction of corporal punishment is absolutely prohibited in North Canterbury schools, and, probably, the schools in many other education districts of New Zealand. The regulations in North Canterbury prescribe that a leather strap not less than 1 1/2 in. wide, not more than 25in. long, 1/4 in. thick, and 4 3/4 oz. in weight, may be used. The dimensions stated represent a maximum, and a strap of such size may be employed upon older boys, when the infliction of severe punishment is necessary. For ordinary purposes, and in the case of younger boys or girls, a much lighter strap must be used. Only the head masters and head mistresses of schools are authorized to administer corporal punishment, except at schools at which the average attendance exceeds 400, when other teachers may be authorized. Teachers are enjoined by the Board to inflict corporal punishment t( with the greatest care and moderation.”
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Sep 03, 2011#60
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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This was rather old “news” in 1911. The strap replaced the cane in North Canterbury primary schools in 1994. The Ohinemuri Gazette was apparently slow to catch on.
Many will have noticed that newspapers rarely have blank columns. Every column inch must be routinely filled and most newspapers come in multiples of 4 pages – 4, 8, 12, 16, …. This presents the problem lamented by most esteemed Another_Lurker in the excellent but lamentably neglected The 100-word-limit school CP thread. Newspapers often need to manufacture, recycle, steal or borrow copy to fill their column inches.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The first link indicates that in the early part of the twentieth century there was a belief on the part of many that the strap was more humane than the cane. Instruments of correction vary for a plethora of reasons and I am at a loss why the strap prevailed in Canada while the hickory stick and paddle did here? There is something iconic about the antebellum hickory stick and then the progression to the paddle from there or why the hand more commonly employed on girls for whatever reason. Is that portion of a girl’s body more delicate or personal or is it because some are more “bottom aware” than others? (; The safety issue concerning the hand is a concern for prof n and my being more “hands aware”. (: The Australians seem to use the word smacking instead of spanking. Does smacking mean basically the over the knee like domestic punishment or does it apply throughout a range of corporal punishment methods.
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Sep 03, 2011#62
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The Australians seem to use the word smacking instead of spanking. Does smacking mean basically the over the knee like domestic punishment or does it apply throughout a range of corporal punishment methods.
It’s complicated.
‘Smacking’ is the term Australians will tend to use to refer to the idea of domestic corporal punishment in general – “He got smacked.” “If you do that again, I’ll smack your bottom.”, etc, etc. Strictly speaking, it doesn’t refer to the use of an implement, but if people are just talking totally generically about corporal punishment, they might still use the term (“Teachers should have the right to smack kids,” for example.) Slap sometimes gets used in the same way.
The typical smack is delivered to a child who is standing up. Grabbed by one arm with one hand and smacked across the bottom with the other. The idea of putting a child over your knees certainly isn’t unknown, but that is considered a bit more formal, and if that is done, most Australians would call that a spanking rather than a smack. But again, spanking can be used somewhat generically as well.
There is an issue of ‘class’ in operation as well. ‘Spanking’ is more of a middle class word in Autralia, than ‘smacking’. But that’s changed over time – with shows like Oprah and Doctor Phil running on a daily basis on Australian day time television (not much longer for Oprah – we’re a little behind the US as I understand it), a lot of American terminology tends to permeate into our… I’m not sure how to put this without causing offence, so let’s just say “the type of people who have time to watch daytime television all day.” So they are increasingly using words the same way Americans do.
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Sep 03, 2011#64
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Further to my last message – just to avoid confusion, let me make it entirely clear that there is nothing wrong with the way Americans talk (not that there is only one way Americans talk). American English is a perfectly valid form of the language and the fact that different words are used in subtly different ways in different English speaking nations is, in fact, one of the things that makes the language as rich as it is.
But that is why it concerns me where certain people in Australia adopt American terminology apparently totally non-cognisant of the fact that that is what they are doing.
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Sep 03, 2011#65
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The language is a living, developing, evolving thing but not all changes are desirable, especially those leading to a loss of precision or subtlety.
I understand a smack to be a blow, usually with the open hand, usually to the buttocks, a word of British origin and still common here in NZ. I understand the word spank to be the approximate American equivalent of “smack”. Note, however “Spanking” as a euphemism.
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Sep 11, 2011#66
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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USA Historic progression of instruments of correction.
http://www.pbs.org/kcet/publicschool/ev … pline.html
Maybe the school master from Ohio (scroll to bottom) paid $140 fine after he whipped the female pupil and not for the privilege prior. The instrument of correction is a bundle of hickory switches twisted together and hardened by the fire. Ouch.
Bundle twisted hickory switches fire hardened
Hickory switch porter microbrewery
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Sep 12, 2011#67
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi, American Way. You simply have to use your excellent research skills to determine more about the Ohio Schoolmaster, the female pupil, and the bundle of hickory withes twisted together and hardened in the fire! $140 is an enormous fine for 1869! Surely they’d have sent him to prison instead!
Besides it doesn’t say it was a fine. It says he ‘paid $140 for the privilege’. Was this some advanced money raising scheme by the young lady, perhaps in aid of her favourite charity? I think we should be told!
When I saw the ‘Hickory Switch Porter’ I thought ‘Oh yes, a joke with a photo-shopped label. But it appears to be genuine. Fallen Angel Brewery, of Battle, Sussex, UK (where king Harold got the arrow in his eye in 1066) really did produce a run of this product. What’s more I traced a large version of the label illustration on a Spanish fetish site (wonderful thing, this new Google picture matching facility) and the signature on it is that of the lady who produces some of the brewery’s labels.</div>
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Sep 12, 2011#68
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Good catch. It is strange that a California paper would run the story about an Ohio schoolmaster but the world has only gone so digital and generous in its output. I was unable to unearth material closer to home from Bristow Iowa but am unable so far to unearth (beaver term) it. May I ask our esteem poster and far more resourceful, KK, for a newspaper archive to search. I appreciate it this even more when he considers that chastisements between the genders runs against natural order.
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Sep 12, 2011#69
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The best I could do under the search for Ohio Schoolmaster was this gem. Serendipity is delightful.
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Sep 12, 2011#70
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The $140 was probably a years pay. That could have meant a year suspension but who can be sure like the pound and dollar exchange rates? It was a rather severe instrument of correction when one considers how it was used in other contexts.
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Sep 13, 2011#71
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Some people feel that marks alone means brutality. This is a court case that proves otherwise.
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Nov 26, 2011#72
There was no laser technology in the days of yore. I buy this as authentic. The age of the participants judging by photos with the name of the school Euclid Middle School near Cleveland, but above all from the specific names given of the teachers lends it enough credibilty for my likings. Sure somethings have changed, but changed everywhere, including born again Christian schools? Me thinks not. These are the stories that Corpun can’t and probably shouldn’t cover but their anecdotal accounts are etched in history, including Bob T memories and mine. The memories shared here are part of benign memories on facebook. One should never characterize those with less benign memories in a negative light. Many members of this Happy Circle seem to think being victims of caning less harmful than non corporal punishment, but don’t count Bob T or yours truly among them. CP hits closer to home, no pun intended. It sticks with me more than detention perhaps because of the stigma as well as the sting.
http://te-in.facebook.com/topic.php?uid … topic=9743
I have lived in different regions and the paddle was not as common in the Northeast than it was in the Mid-Atlantic states in the early seventies as anecdotally attested to my fifth grade boy to the principal’s office. It was still called getting the stick in both public and parochial schools. Later the paddle became ubiquitous for whatever reason. I sent a 5th grade boy down to the principal office and he got paddled when I would have imagined he would have gotten the ruler or stick. There were souvenir paddles introduced that hung from nails in homes with pithy sayings that were non-existent in the fifties and sixties. That might be confirmed by EBAY ads. I know my esteemed fellow researcher kk cares little about my conjectures (I may be over-personalizing it) but I will nonetheless proffer them as well as my statistically meaningless anecdotes in his eyes as well.
I do feel there is a carry over between slavery and prison paddling for they both involve deprivations of rights. Slavery being institutional by nature. I am saying this not to falsely bolster the anti-CP zealots assertion about SCP being barbaric for its possible slavery roots. School children came home to the switch and were not unfamiliar with it in a school setting. Take sometime and read my recent Kentucky school history posting. There are humorous stories to be found thereI mentioned before a strap was used when there was no such thing as a female principal so there may have been a natural carry over of the domestic use of the belt..
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Nov 26, 2011#73
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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[. . .] I know my esteemed fellow researcher KK cares little about my conjectures [. . .]
American Way,
You are very prolific and have found a lot of interesting stuff. I am sure others will join me in thanking you for your efforts even if we occasionally complain about broken or blocked hyperlinks, and inaccessible pages.
Your conjectures are interesting even if I do not respond with specific comments. Generally, I do not know what to say and do not want to go on about primary and secondary sources of information. Your conjectures have suggested specific lines of inquiry in my frustrated and frustrating research into the origin of the US school paddle.
I do not discount the possibility of a link between slavery and corporal punishment practices in US schools. However, so far, I have not discovered any evidence of a direct link.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Perhaps a link between slavery and prison flogging would be a more natural fit? From there it can become reform schools ……. The bucolic one room schoolhouses with hickory sticks and switches in frontier times did not preclude the paddle by any means but made it less an instrument of choice. A verifiable source (school teachers my age) would be a strap in a principals office right through the 1970’s.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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American Way,
See here for my speculations as to how the paddle might have become popular in US schools.
There is reliable evidence that in some of the Southern States the law / judiciary took over the punishment of slaves in an effort to avoid the excesses of overseers and owners. Slaves might be paddled by court order.
There is one interesting case reported in Louisiana. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find the link again but it was reported in a bilingual newspaper in the first half of 1800s. A 12-year-old house slave (Silas?) was suspected of stealing a watch. He was paddled until he confessed but then proved very resistant to saying what he had done with it. He may have been paddled to death. The possibility that his initial confession extracted by torture was false does not seem to have occurred to anyone.
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Dec 09, 2011#76
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Dec 09, 2011#77
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hi American Way,
Yes, but is the Beaver gnawing it or queuing up to apply it to the young lady’s bottom? I think we should be told! </div>
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Dec 10, 2011#78
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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I have been gnawing on that for some time Another Lurker for Gillian Jacobs has been very naughty of late.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Jan 15, 2012#81
USA Historic progression of instruments of correction.
http://www.pbs.org/kcet/publicschool/ev … pline.html
Maybe the school master from Ohio (scroll to bottom) paid $140 fine after he whipped the female pupil and not for the privilege prior. The instrument of correction is a bundle of hickory switches twisted together and hardened by the fire. Ouch.
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Many anecdotal accounts have been given about this practice. Laser technology being what it is this a new one.
The thought of selecting your own instrument brings to mind Gillian Jacobs unfortunate selection. Any comments. Would the principal send them back to the drawing board. I would imagine the good two shoes would make the fiercest instruments or maybe thay wouldn’t have a clue for never being on the receiving end. prof n mentioned that I wasn’t paddled but in my defense I goot the stick, dowel like instuments of varying widths. Very clever of the sisters to buy at local household good store. Bob T of course would like to see the ladies of TWP get a taste of what they serve others, than a scientific domestic experience of our very own Renee.
I would imagine it would be up to the one administrator like Nana Barnes to judge whether it will make do.
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In the rural south a more bucolic, nonetheless, painful instrument of correction as Gillian Jacobs was to learn pants down and over Nana Barnes knee the old fashioned way.
Nana give it to me
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Rarely use today, thank heavens is the dreaded rubber hose. It left fewer marks but was nonetheless painful. Not surpringly boy whippings do not gather the media attention. The use was both borstal and scholastic settings. That may be due to gender stereotyping.
October 6, 1924 Rubber Hose
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The boys cheered the teacher. With a gathering of 1500 concerned it must have been quite controversial for an instrument of correction. A limp and ragged bit of rubber hose, resting for the moment on the kitchen table of JR Silk, insurance salesman, has wrecked the peace.
July 13, 1911. A brutal case of a refractory girl and a rubber hose. Another May 21, 1910. May 29, 1899.
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Defending the rubber hose. December 7, 1911 and April 17, 1919
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Use Forbidden. June 5, 1921.
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Feb 11, 2012#83
http://www.olemiss.edu/programs/mtc/Par … Foster.htm
Bob T: This is from the link on Keila Foster you were looking for.
http://keilams.blogspot.com/2006/06/cor … hment.html
Tiffany is not anti-CP zealot and her account to the Human Rights Watch is credible.
http://www.olemiss.edu/programs/mtc/Par … tlett.html
http://tiffanybartlett.blogspot.com/200 … hment.html
Widespread paddling can make it unlikely that forms will be checked. A teacher interviewed by Human Rights Watch, Tiffany Bartlett, said that when she taught in the Mississippi Delta, the policy was to lock the classroom doors when the bell rang, leaving stragglers to be paddled by an administrator patrolling the hallways. Bartlett now is a school teacher in Austin, Texas.
The bottom line is that there are abuses of corporal punishment without doubt and they’re not as few as many would like to believe. I think Bob T it comes to one’s threshold of what one defines as defiance from the Alabama “perpetrators” list. That’s worse then calling youngsters monsters.
Are students learning to avoid annoying their teachers? Are teachers paddling students that annoy them? After a paddling a some teachers says the slate is clean yet how often do hear them say that after Saturday detention? Why? I suspect some may think the other forms of punishment are not as effective but some may be over sold on it as it seems in the MS Delta area. Too much smoke not to believe there is not fire. Jessica Benson account linked below.
http://calstate.fullerton.edu/news/Insi … n-q-a.html
Here is a teacher that wants to remain anonymous but is nonetheless just as credible from her Mississippi Teacher Corps blog.
http://wanderingeph.blogspot.com/
During our first teacher work day, I went to lunch with many of the other teachers. As soon as Id picked up my food, the teacher sitting next to me started grilling me on my discipline policy and asked what I planned to use as punishments. As I went through my list (warnings, writing assignments, phone calls, detentions, office referrals, etc.), she kept barking at me, What else? and then proceeded to lecture me on how the kids were monsters who wouldnt do anything I told them to do unless I paddled them very hard. Other teachers chimed in their agreement, and after a meeting in the library, another teacher pulled me aside to give me more or less the same speech. When the principal started talking about corporal punishment, and I asked whether corporal punishment at the school was limited to paddling or included things like push-ups, the entire staff started laughing at me, and people I hadnt even met spent the next few days teasing me and asking if Id made any kids do push-ups.
These fruits of my research have made me more circumspect and nuanced on my views of school corporal punishment. On a lighter note, Bob T, when you said you would donate paddles to spank bullies and you want teachers to feel the paddle, I take it we have some shared bad memories of being tormented in the school and outside the school.
I’m not clairvoyant but I don’t think teachers will be paddling twenty five years from now. It’s not a matter of being on the right or wrong side of history but it is what it is. You’re doing your best to hold Renee et al feet to the ground justifying incidences and that’s fair turf. Keep in mind that bully teachers and bully students have taken its toll on both of us but we stay a Happy Circle when we can be real and we can kind. Bob T we’re not always kind but we are always real.
I hope these posts disabuse those who believe abuses are a thing of the past. It’s not to be minimized or rationalized but one cannot simply by invoking community standards. When these young teachers interact Deep Delta MS culture, without prior knowledge of community standards, there will be a rubbing of both cultures and the best of both will prevail. Isn’t that the American Way.
Bob T if you wish to write Keila Foster a letter I suggests you write through Dr Phil’s program. However wrongheaded she may be she comes from an African American experience and is almost young enough to be your daughter. So remember be real but be kind. I’ll have Grandma Barnes tell you to go cut a switch for her and give you a whopping.
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UK Role Play Scholastic Devices. If she were on the receiving end she wouldn’t be smiling throughout the video. A little discipline of the hands would do her a world of good, since she thinks it’s underrated .
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Feb 11, 2012#84
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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My apologies I have referenced this before here but the woman’s face was worth the admission in the tabloids. Also, here is a follow up.
Lastly, this girl’s doleful look and lugubrious expression makes me think that she is surrendering it to someone to use on her and not protesting it.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Instruments of torture included cowhide, ferule, cat and rattan. I was amused by the telegraph. It doesn’t take much to amuse me. Page 223.
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Feb 22, 2012#86
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Along with the switch there was the dreaded rawhide that younger girls endured as well as older ones. The earliest matrix of lashes was previously referenced but with an elaboration.
Mason Street School House. Lashes from a rawhide whip
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Training Girls School at Geneva Ilinois. Mrs Ophelia L Amigh.
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Georgia Penitentiary . White girl make Negro bed? Georgia’s Disgrace.
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Feb 27, 2012#87
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Another not so rare instrument of correction.
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Mar 13, 2012#88
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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In my area there were all male Catholic High Schools run by “Christian” Brothers. It was often threatened that if you did not behave you would be sent to the Catholic Orphanage or to the all male Catholic High School with a long commute. It was the rich kids that were educated by the brothers. The best basketball games were to be had at the orphanage’s basketball court.
Here is a rather an unorthodox baseball bat as an instrument of correction by a layman. Most of the other brothers instruments were of a lighter variety with the exception of Brother Peter who had other hardware. I assume other than baseball bats. I guess upon this rock I shall build this school.
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Mar 13, 2012#89
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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In my area there were all male Catholic High Schools run by “Christian” Brothers. It was often threatened that if you did not behave you would be sent to the Catholic Orphanage or to the all male Catholic High School with a long commute. It was the rich kids that were educated by the brothers. The best basketball games were to be had at the orphanage’s basketball court.
Here is a rather an unorthodox baseball bat as an instrument of correction by a layman. Most of the other brothers instruments were of a lighter variety with the exception of Brother Peter who had other hardware. I assume other than baseball bats. I guess upon this rock I shall build this school.
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Apr 06, 2012#90
AW; Thanks for the links, I will get to them when I can. Don’t worry about Keila, I just want to ask her some questions.
Efficaciousness of certain hairbrushes are discussed and the cane is defended as a superior instrument of correction. Thanks to a heads up by KK I have accessed the Library of Congress newspapers. This has been a fertile source. By serendipity I found not only the story of Bridgeton, New Jersey in the Evening World there appeared the story of the official spanker, Trenton New Jersey and now Weewauken New Jersey there must have been a lot of bad girls in the spring of 1920.
Maybe some help on this is needed for the second link refers back to a letter to the editor that I cannot find that must have been just a few days prior. His comment was upon a letter by J. F. F. Entitled Spankings The first entry is not part of the stories that follow but is from the same paper at the same time. This could have initiated the series of letter. This is all from the same newspaper.
To spank or not to spank.
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/ … seq-17.pdf
Hairbrush spankings
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/ … seq-22.pdf
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/ … seq-16.pdf
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/ … seq-22.pdf
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Apr 11, 2012#91
I have read through several accounts from the teacher chatboards where more young teachers than not are uncomfortable witnessing a paddling and not necessarily from the pain but arbitrariness and consistency of its use. Why arbitary? Teachers have their own rules. Why inconsistent? Teachers have their own days. You have to remember it’s the teachers not the principals that witness and report the behavior or do not report the behavior.
Arrogance is a result of absolute power and there is no checks and balances in schools that don’t give children appeals. The matrices I’ve constructed, not only have appeals, but forms that give a student a chance to put into words their grievance. Will the process leas to changes in punishments meted out? With mistaken identity a paddling can be avoided, even if only once a year, but for amelioration maybe quite more frequently. Dr Dominum listened to appeals occasionally made changes.
Anthony Price is a good principal; he teaches the teachers how to paddle safely and moderately. Getting a paddling or a detention for relatively minor misbehavior seems to avoid the long term negative impact of suspensions. It’s like getting a ticket for speeding before causing an accident. IMHO it is the unchecked authority where petty annoyances are seen as major acts of defiance. Nancy was paddled by a fair principal who had her best interests in mind. I don’t think the children from Everman or Booneville are leaving their respective schools scarred by their experiences, whether paddling led to a more an orderly environment for learning is a matter for debate by its citizens and not the courthouses and legislative halls of state capitols but from the students, parents and the teachers in their legislative bodies closer to home and their community standards. With transparency comes accountability and the petty dictators are exposed to be just that. The built in entitlements and bureaucratic traditions have encouraged an arrogance that manifests itself globally within school systems. Students are not autonomous and certainly need more guidelines and rules to maintain an ordered environment for learning but that should never be achieved without the utmost respect for the students.
The journal, practically speaking the blogs, available by searching: “Mississippi Teachers Corps Corporal Punishment” and a little patience show what happens when the innocence and idealism encounters schools as outsiders is helpful indeed. IMHO some of these young teachers expose some petty dictators and tricksters who have their students welfare foremost in mind. The young and inexperience respect the teachers and students and have a lifetime ahead of them with a hope of making changes with the courage to teach in a world so different than their own. It augurs well for them and makes me proud and hopeful for the American Way
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A walk down history lane with the instruments of correction both judicial and scholastic. Some of these instruments are terrifying.
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May 28, 2012#92
The early days of the USA there was much mention of ferrules and rawhide where either the hands and the bottoms were targets of corporal punishment. The last link gives an array of instruments of correction worthy of former Vice-President Dick Cheney or the Founding Father of enhanced interrogation.
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“The early instruments used in school discipline were the cat-o’-nine tails and the rod, and there were various modes of punishment, carrying the offender on the back of a pupil and then flogging him, seating the boys with the girls and the girls with the boys, fastening a split stick to the ear or the nose, laying the scholar over the knee and applying the ferrule to the part on which he sat. These punishments were in vogue for years after the common schools were established. For the benefit of young teachers I will give the mode of correction. The masters invariably kept what was called toms, or, more vulgarly, cat-o’-ninetails, all luck being in odd numbers. This instrument of torture was an oaken stick about twelve inches long, to which was attached a piece of rawhide cut in strips, twisted while wet, and then dried. It was freely used for correction, and those who were thus corrected did not soon forget it, and not a few carried the marks during life. Another and no less cruel instrument was a green cowhide.”
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Woman were not reticent in cow-hiding errant husbands or over zealous teachers in the days of yore. Are they referring to a buggy whip?
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Cow hiding in a New Orleans boarding house attracting an audience. This reporter goes a little bit overboard. Fortunately the judge did not.
Miss Ellen Murphey, a beautiful young lady, with large melting eyes, of heaven’s own hue, and a black silk dress, whose neat fit could not be surpassed, then preferred a complaint against another lady for threatening her life..Several intellectual young men were desperately smitten with Ellen’s appearance, – one so much that he could no more report her case than he could translate Hebrew poetry.
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Aug 04, 2012#93
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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It is strange to me that Canada uses a strap as do the jurisdictions of the USA but then it the instrument of corrections changes from the leather to wood. Edmonton’s strap sure did not sound “dinky” by prescription in 1936.
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Lorne Rogers 1956 Dinky Strap.
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Aug 19, 2012#94
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Korean Love Stick
As a bonus, below is what Koreans call, The Stick of Love. This one is particularly intricate, with a beautiful inscription saying, remember the first time, as in, remember the first time I told you to pipe up, I guess. You can tell this stick of love is really high-quality because the panels dont match up exactlyits made that way on purpose so that when a teacher strikes it against a table or desk, the two panels smack together and make an ear-piercing thwack sound which gets everyones attention.
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Aug 19, 2012#95
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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American Way’s interesting post contained the following:
“…its made that way on purpose so that when a teacher strikes it against a table or desk, the two panels smack together and make an ear-piercing thwack sound which gets everyones attention.”
The implement, a bamboo clap, should never be struck on a table or desk or it will break. A clap is often used by the chairman of a meeting to call people to order. The hollow bamboo forms a resonant chamber, which amplifies the sound as the two halves come together. Slapped in the palm of the hand, it is loud enough to be heard above the noise of a large group of people talking.
Claps were originally used to wake up novice monks who had dozed off during meditation. It is still used in Zen teaching. A couple of sharp raps are given on the shoulders with the rod. As it strikes, it emits a loud noise close to the ear which would wake the deepest sleeper. In Japan, the rod is called kyosaku – The stick of awakening.
It is important to note that in this context, it is not done as a punishment; it is a consensual aid to concentration.
These implements are quite often used as massage sticks by adults wishing to ease tense muscles but inevitably they are also used for corporal punishment, when the paddle-like smack is emphasised by a loud report.
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Oct 26, 2012#96
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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In North America a slipper as an instrument of correction is rarely used, not so in the Philippines apparently. Why is the hairbrush so obviously ubiquitous in the states? It is unheard of as used in school corporal punishment here. Not earth shattering questions but head scratchers nonetheless.
This should not altogether be unsurprising when you consider Imelda Marcos.
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The lovely Christine Gambito aka as Happy Slip. Her mother would insist on her wearing a half slip as a happy slip presumably to protect her modesty. She plays all the familiar family role in her videos and has become quite popular.
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Feb 24, 2013#97
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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We read of custom made paddles from wood shop classes but harness makers have been know to make fearsome straps as in the case of Fred Isaacs harness maker and his custom punishment strap for Principal Teetzel from first and second link. The court had to consider where the offense occurred for it was outside the school.
Teetzel didn’t like what they did to his windows. “Keying” teachers car doors in the parking lot would be somewhat akin to this but still on school property. The worse a student did was let air out of a lay teacher’s tires in my day. If nuns had cars I would sweetened their gas tanks. Kinda guy I am.
October 13, 1894
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Custom made strap of more recent vintage.
“When I decided to go into teaching at the tender age of 18, an uncle of mine, who was a harness maker, presented me with a unique going- away gift. He made a durable hand-tooled strap with a double hand- stitched handle with the business end slashed to produce nine tentacles. My uncle called it the cat-o-nine tails with his personal touch.”
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Feb 24, 2013#98
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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…LOL, and in a 1986 article they say “<em>at a time when it is no longer legal for prison guards to beat inmates (that ended 70 years ago)</em>” … it would be great if reporters occassionally reported facts as well. Federal prison CP bans were 1972, 14 years ago not 70!
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Mar 26, 2013#99
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The Forrest City School District doesn’t know if it will use a paddle or a Ruler on unruly students. The video could be showing a ruler that was never intended to be used but like the rod and the ferule were meant for different targets. A_LMaybe if the paddle doesn’t modify your behaviour (sic) the Catholic school yardstick may in a virtual sense of course. Another 100 postings have past in the TWP thread but who is counting?
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There is no regulation or guideline in this regard from the state.
Page 7 in the document.
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Apr 10, 2013#100
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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A lot of thought through years have gone into the questions of what is the most effective instrument of correction and it goes way back in time. Making the teachers be the first in line might not be that bad of an idea. Maybe the teachers wouldn’t brag how hard they hit as some who smugly congratulate themselves in hitting hard enough so that a child would never return for a second dose or those who brag how hard the hit in anger to remedy a wrong. How sick!!!
THE IDEAL SPANKER 1904
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Apr 11, 2013#101
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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In this 1936 article entitled Hairbrush Tune there is a variety of instruments of correction listed under the generic term “spank”. Switches, rulers, open palms, slabs, shingles, two by fours, dog whips and buggy whips. Let’s hope they were no all used.
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The last listing of a rubber hose being used that I could find was in 1972 in New Mexico. Being a relatively remote area it could very well been the last time a student was hit with a rubber hose. You couldn’t say to your teacher up your nose with a rubber hose.
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Apr 12, 2013#102
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Hi <strong>American Way,</strong>
I have just returned and slowly making my way through all the posts (there were lots of them!) while away. Too bad you found this New Mexico Article .. it’s been waiting in my out box to post on a different topic. Ah well, you’re just too efficient! New Mexico was the most recent American State to ban SCP in 2011, leaving 18 states left that allow it.
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May 29, 2013#103
Hi American Way. If that really is Millard Fillmore in that picture my congratulations! You must know your US Presidents very well to identify him, even on the biggest of the Flickr pictures. I certainly couldn’t identify a picture of John Russell, 1st Earl Russell, who was UK Prime Minister 1850 to 1852, even if it filled the entire screen! Interestingly he was a member of the Whig party, as was Millard Fillmore.
But I digress. I have studied the picture you caption ‘President Milliard Filmore in the 1850’a appears on the wall with paddle and hickory stick’ very closely and I’m darned if I can see a paddle. I can see a stick, which may or may not be hickory, but it appears to be the sort used by elderly or injured persons to assist ambulation, not the sort used to beat children – at least I hope not!
The Unlikely Making of a Mennonite Minister by Herman Myers. Humorous account of Miss Wingfield, raised in the rural hills of West Virginia warned her pupils. “By gad, I’ll get a hickory stick and beat some sense into your heads!” and, I’ll slap you till your jaws ring!”
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1891. A salutary encounter with a hickory stick.
A woman teachers’s punishment upon a big boy was the story in this news article. Wear a hickory gad out upon him was the advice of his adoptive father. It was for his own good apparently. Perchance encounter revealed that he was none other than Francis Tiernan a wealthy railroad magnate. I like these stories in not so well known newspapers that provide real name to little known incidences.
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Francis Tiernan. RIP 1903.
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May 29, 2013#104
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Sorry about that. Tiernan obituary.
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Jun 30, 2013#105
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Instrument of correction. California. March 1893. A_L. You didn’t waste much time presuming upon my good humor June 1 2013 on Duff Links.
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Sep 01, 2013#106
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Hand or ruler?
1906. I officiated at four spankings last year. One of ’em got it good and principal clark rubbed his palms reminiscently. If candidates are not too grown-up I flop them across my knee and use the flat of my hand. The method is efficacious when the boys are plump. When there is a slack in their trousers I have to take down the ruler casting his eyes upward.
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Here is an image of the off-topic, but couldn’t resist, fat girl imperiling a baptism found beneath the relevant portion in the above link.
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Sep 10, 2013#107
Catholic school in American in the mid fifties to the late sixties consisted of two instruments: Stick (I saw more than one in the principal’s office but felt it only once) and the yardstick in high school that I almost got for my compass prick. Being in second grade I can’t vouch that they were of different thickness but they were of different lengths. Interestingly enough like Renee’s Momma’s Strap there were no fixed numbers. The second grade/principal either retired or transferred before the sixth grade. She didn’t believe in corporal punishment and made no secret of it. Lacking an auditorium the higher grades were lined along the staircase and on the floor near it and she made a dramatic point. While the teachers slapped students and threw erasers there would be no more stick until the yardstick in high school with a principal who used corporal punishment.
The dramatic point the new principal made should be the subject of a play or shown in a movie. She took the stick at the top of the staircase and broke it over her knee and said we weren’t animals and we shouldn’t behave that way for we had reason and free will. I overheard one of the girls saying they didn’t like the new principal. She had a dog and thought that was a cruel thing to do to an animal.
The students two biggest students defied her and walked out of school before the bell rang at the end of the day in fifth grade. She hit as hard as the others though she was the smallest and oldest of all the nuns we had. She made a point of her strength with a trick. She took an apple once and broke it in two with her bare hands. After the office over the loudspeaker incident she was the only one that didn’t hit me until my lay teacher in the sixth grade.
Control of a classroom has more to do with captivating a child’s interests and taking an interests in every student than deterrence. My only lay teacher in sixth grade hit no one. She taught me “scramble eggs” once while the kids were at recess. They call that inter-disciplinary now. She had a world relief map where I could run my fingers over the Ural mountains and then she explained that Napoleon had not brought enough provisions for he had know idea how vast Russia was. She then related that to Jesus who talked about the ones who made themselves look foolish by not having enough resource to finish building a tower or the king who saw from afar that his troops were not as plentiful as his opponent. You had to make peace. She said the world was to big to conquer and we all had to learn how to live in peace because the world was big enough to provide for everybody.
The Catholic school experience becomes less horrific when you can cherish good memories and not dwell on the unhappy ones. She shared of her experiences and showed films of her travels visiting natural and manmade wonders of the world. She retired from the public schools and was Miss and not a Mrs. She improved my penmanship so I could get a Palmer method certificate. If you can instill in a child something not in the curriculum but something that excites you then you’re a great teacher. How many twelve-year-olds know about scansion. Row Row Row Boat (trochaic) Merrily Merrily (iambic) and Banana (dactylic). We had fun writing doggerel poetry. I developed and sponsored an essay scholarship for those about to graduate from high school based on merit and not financial need. I’m close to her age now and it’s a way of honoring her.
One may argue that she succeeded with me but would be better served with CP in her tool box but not convincingly. Sorry guys, I don’t intend to refute it but not because I can’t. IMHO too often detention and suspension are made into the bogeyman making it sound onerous or time wasted but it seems more a reason to justify CP.
I have some experience but I’m not claiming that much for I never taught more than three classes and not since the early nineties. I have raised my voice on occasion but never resorted to sarcasm. Maybe I am becoming too avuncular but I would not even tempted to use CP if it were allowed. I am going to take on some younger kids in what amounts to a mentoring situation with about seven middle school age kids for a forty-five minute class starting in two weeks. I won’t be involved in onsite work-study on the high school level.
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Oct 04, 2013#108
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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1904. Brooklyn Corporal Punishment League and instruments of punishment. Third column land last article. Fascinating?
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Oct 05, 2013#109
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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1903. Whatever is handiest as I have remarked before? Father’s strap or mother’s brush?
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Oct 08, 2013#110
1904. Brooklyn Corporal Punishment League and instruments of punishment. Third column land last article. Fascinating?
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KK would you you care to print this out for the convenience of those who prefer not to access it by a passive link. It would seem that the Brooklyn Corporal Punishment League was a non-existent entity created for the benefit of the story. I have been unable to find any other reference.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Nov 07, 2013#112
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Malcolm, the poor grandson of the renowned Rev. Ingram N. W. Irvine, D.D. had his share of troubles. The cane, dog whip and hairbrush. 1917.
This 12-year-old boy’s poor memory cost him and the teacher’s own pocket money. The teacher was angered he broke her inch thick cane for she would have to replace it out of her own pocket money with no more pocket money for a year.
After that the Principal Mabel Frances Elder beat him with a dog whip and lastly she put him over the side of a bathtub, putting her knee in the small of his back, and spanking him with a hairbrush.
I hope he could recite the Lord is my Shepherd. While the monks chanted the 150 psalms the common people recited three rosaries consisting of 150 bead with three sets of mysteries outside the walls of the cloister.
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The grandfather, Ingram Nathaniel Washington Irvine (“Father Nathaniel”) made the news on his own on more than one occasion.
1904.
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1914.
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He was quite a man.
http://orthodoxwiki.org/Ingram_Nathaniel_Irvine
1921 RIP.
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The brutish Mabel Frances Elder is an example by common consent that women for centuries have been permitted to conceal their true age and has become a universal privilege of the sex, when availed of, never leaves, even in the judgment of the most pharisaical, a sense of moral turpitude.
1908. Miss Elder was quite a piece of work
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Nov 07, 2013#113
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif);”>Hello American Way,
I fear that the terminal ‘3’ has gone walk-about from the URL in the first link in your above contribution. The New York Times article concerned, from 26 January 1917, is to be found here.
I am sad that you refer to poor Miss Mabel Frances Elder as ‘brutish’. She was after all a mountain climber, so she couldn’t have been all bad. I mean, what else is there to do with a boy who won’t learn his psalms except beat him half to death? The court must have largely agreed because young Malcolm Irvine Rooney only got $1,500 of the $25,000 he was claiming.
Whether Miss Mabel (apparently originally Mary) Frances Elder was born in 1886 or 1888, she must have done fairly well to have become a school Principal by 1914, aged 28 (or 26).</div>
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Dec 16, 2013#114
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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I’m a little tired so I took liberties in editing a story I posted before. This portion of the story focuses on instruments of correction.
Judge Meade 1928 Four Rules for Chastising Your Child.
Procure a paddle about sixteen inches long and rather
thin. “Adopt a proper frame of mind, a desire to correct the child rather than to satisfy your own anger.
“Strike” only four or five blows on the proper part of the child’s anatomy. The children hailed this learned opinion with shouts of joy. Under such humane conditions they would not mind being spanked every time they came home. Their interpretation raised so many questions that it seemed evident that parents would need to call in a lawyer and witnesses at spanking ceremonies in order to be on the safe side.
“What is a paddle?” was asked. The dictionary says: “An oar; specifically a sort of short oar having a blade or two (one at each end).”
That would have been all right, but the judicial rules stated that it must be about 16 inches long. Nobody makes a short oar as short as that. And what did “rather thin” mean?
The parents thought that a paddle-shaped spanking implement, only sixteen inches long would have to be from three-quarters of an inch to an inch thick to be at all effective. The youths and maidens of Kansas City held that this would be rather thick. They cautioned their parents that they would not be a party to breaking the law by allowing themselves to be spanked with anything thicker than a shingle. There would be legal proceedings if they were assaulted with a heavier paddle.
“Mother, how will I be sure that you are in what the judge calls a proper frame of mind for spanking me?” asked a flapper. I think you should call in a jury of my peers, twelve of my disinterested boy and girl friends, to determine your mental attitude. And should it be a prayerful frame of mooned or an affectionate one? Will you begin the ritual by getting down on your knees or by kissing me? I think the least you could do would be to shake hands with me, like the prizefighters, before the first blow.”
What is the “proper part of the child’s anatomy” on which the four or five blows must be planted unless the parent wishes to be penalized for foul blows?
“That is the one thing that makes sense,” said an exasperated parent. “Through the ages there has been one classical area to which spankings have been applied.”
“That idea is all out of date,” replied his high-school son. ‘They may have turned you up and spanked you, but in schools today they hit you on the palm of the hand, and not many teachers dare to do even that. Read Freud and you’ll see that such a humiliating posture might cause an inferiority complex. Four or five times on the palm with a shingle is all the judge allows. You wouldn’t want to disgrace us by going to jail.”
Anyhow, this bars out the hairbrush and the maternal slipper which parents of past generations used for educational purposes without suspecting that they were cruek and wicked. Of course, the willow switch, the stove poker, the dog whip and even so light and flimsy a thing as a coat hanger are forbidden by the judicial decision and opinion which overrules the biblical injunction:
“He who spareth his rod hateth his son.”
One Kansas City father announced that his own hand would do for a paddle and that if five applications did not bring results he would try five more and keep on until he made an impression. His son served notice on him that while his hand might look like a paddle it was a proper one because it was not “rather.” If he used any other more than five times he would call a policeman.
Children in these athletic days are often bigger and stronger than their parents. In that case would the judge permit calling in assistance, such as the cook or chauffeur, or, if there were not servants, was it the policeman’s duty to act as assistant spanker? The children magnanimously waived this question also. As long as the spankings were done according to the judge’s prescription they would not resist or object Why should they?
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Background of the best covered spanking in USA twentieth century.
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The spanking.
The mother didn’t take kindly to the teacher her daughter complained about her spanking.
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Fisty Woman Beat Friend Blacking Eyes.
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Miss Inez MacKinnon born 1895 died 1965.
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The club sponsor is Miss Inez MacKinnon.
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Mar 06, 2014#115
One of the harshest instruments of correction is the knout used on a student in William M Cooper’s History of the Rod. There was a recent documentary that I didn’t bookmark showing a lady being spared the indignity of exposure by having her lower torso flogged by the knout with only her tormented face shown. It was a “fictional historical” documentary worth noting for its credibility. that form of whipping often led to death but in her this case it was a thorough chastisement. Please post if you find it. Why I didn’t bookmark I’ll never know.
Cooper’s book relates the following. A lady of rank (domestics were not treated with such deference) was summoned to the secret police and was asked to come forward where a trap door suddenly gave way under her, and she slipped down till she was supported only by her clothes, which had gathered up all around her arms; she hung through the ceiling of the re room below, where a man plied a whip on her unprotected body. I’m not saying it happened but it must be a part of their collected narrative to appear in a serious documentary like fiction. What instrument of correction would have been used years ago in that general region?
Instrument of Correction. Birch applied in a unique fashion.
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It came from 2005 Russian TV series called Favorit. Synopsis
Annals of court favoritism of the reign of Catherine II is replete with numerous facts and fantasies. However, in an endless succession of her favorites, and meet extraordinary figure, passionate patriots. They boldly intruded into politics, controlling not only their lover, but the Russian government.One of them was Prince Potemkin.
Hit the second box in link below on the bottom (2 cepnr) video and fast forward to 33:33 minutes and you will find the one I didn’t bookmark or favorite (pun not intended). I love her expression when she finds out what a surprise awaits her.
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Alternatively it’s part 2 and into three minutes and thirty three seconds.
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The birched young lady is Natalya Tkachenko.
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The Englishwoman in Russia: Impressions of the Society and Manners of the Russians at Home (1855). Chapter 7.
http://books.google.com/books/about/The … IEAAAAYAAJ
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A portion of the video with Images are available by simple Googling. Mainstream Russian TV Mini Series: Favorit (2005)
Judging by the marks it was a “mild like Malaysian flogging” fit for a naughty school girls. Those liars I will never forgive those savages however grateful I am she was spared. Read under seventh.
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Mar 07, 2014#116
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The third link lacked the last letter l so it becomes a duff link that A_L really doesn’t find annoying as he claims. Why> He enjoys nitpicking. The corrected link is.
http://kinomusorka.ru/en/directors-dire … -2005.html
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Mar 20, 2014#117
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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1894. The State of Corrections: Proceedings, ACA Annual Conferences
By American Correctional Association
Whittier State School 340 boys and 70 girls.
Modes of Discipline. – We have no fixed punishments for any stated infraction. We have no marking, no prizes, and very rarely resort to corporal punishment, although we believe in capital punishment.
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Page 351. First one under Juvenile Reformatories. There is no written number so look for 352 and go back a page.
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Different Instruments of correction.
Switch. Girls. Page 353.
Common spanking with slipper. Boys. Page 359.
Hickory Rod. Ten Strokes at a single punishment. Page 360.
Spanking with leather paddle. Coed institution. Cost per capita “39 1/2 cents” per day. Page 360.
These words on page 85 of Rev. George H. Hickox gives us an indication of thinking of his times.
It is said “the statue lies hid in the clock of marble; and the sculptor only finds it.” So a man is hidden in this criminal, and it is the work of the prison to chip away the hard, the indurate, and bringing forth the man, despoiled of that made him vile and an outlaw.
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Mar 20, 2014#118
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello American Way,
An interesting find. In the Juvenile Institutions the large variation in the punishment regimes and the annual cost of maintaining each inmate is quite fascinating. One wonders though, given the date of 1894, if some of those institutions claiming to use only “moral ‘suasion” on their young charges to enforce discipline are lying through their official teeth!
Unfortunately I think (I don’t have time to do a detailed check) that residents in the UK, and possibly others resident outside the USA, will need to present themselves as being in the US via a proxy server to see the book. That done, much the easiest method then is to download the PDF of the book.
The items you quote, and others in the same area, are of course only brief, and a very small part of the volume. However, if anyone would nevertheless like to see the source document and doesn’t know how to I am happy to provide instructions, but I don’t think it appropriate to do so here. If you have an email address for me, email me and I’ll send you details. No silliness please, I subject emails to fairly careful scrutiny. If not, then post here (NOT your email address though!) and I’ll organise something.</div>
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Mar 20, 2014#119
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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As A_W has mentioned I copy and past snippets for those who cannot access the document as in this case on capital punishment.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The proper Hangman’s noose should have 13 coils of rope above the noose. There is a purpose to it – on the drop, once the rope springs tight under the body weight, that part of the rope forces the head forward with sufficient force to snap the vertibrae, casuing (hopefully) instant death.
I don’t know where I learned this, but I am still able to produce a proper functioning one. … some remnant of a misguided youth me thinks? ..and NO, to answer your question (because I <em>know</em> you were going to ask it , I never hanged anyone! It is, however, a good skill to have if civilization collapses and in-situ marshall law and summary conviction must be imposed!
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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TWP posts recorded the use of the strap at home. While we here in the North hear spanking we don’t necessarily think of the strap as an instrument of correction. Texas is of another story.
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The girls sometimes take their licks. The boys much more often but I’ll take my pick.
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Bubba’s paddle is not destined for rednecks’s bottoms but for girls from the Land of Lincoln. Shannon IL.
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Apr 27, 2014#122
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Paddle not a strap. 1957.
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When I asked one girl why she giggled she said she couldn’t help herself. So I told her I’d help her. I had a wastebasket lined with paper. The girl spent one period with the basket on head.
Stap not a paddle. Left column.
Mississippi February 23, 1989
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A new corporal punishment policy has been adopted by the Holmes County Board of Education. The county school board reviewed a proposed policy for changing corporal punishment in the district. A major change is a strap, not a paddle, must be used in cases requiring a spanking. The strap can be no more than three inches nor less than two inches wide. Corporal punishment is to be administered as a last resort.
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I like the way the student is being led to the slaughter. I wonder if that was method acting?
Florida May 13, 1984. Both. Plain leather strap not to exceed 2 by 12 by 1/2 inches, when folded, not counting the part held by hand. Wooden paddle not to exceed 4 by 16 by 1/2 inch, not counting the part held by the hand.
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Jun 04, 2014#123
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Names for instruments of correction. The Weeping Willow, The Tear Compeller and The Educational Bludgeon.
The Helena independent., March 17, 1891.
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Today’s name of a School Paddle among others……… Mr Feel Good.
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Name of a Home Paddle. Fanny Whacker. Use briskly until object is blushing pink.
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Jul 20, 2014#124
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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First Column February 23, 1989 as reported in 2006 Holmes County MS
A new corporal punishment policy has been adopted by the Holmes County Board of Education. The county school board reviewed a proposed policy for changing corporal punishment in the district. A major change is a strap, not a paddle, must be used in cases requiring a spanking. The strap can be no more than three inches nor less than two inches wide. Corporal punishment is to be administered as a last resort.
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Jul 28, 2014#125
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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School corporal punishment. The United States Virgin Islands is now in the news. They are on the verge of banning corporal punishment. The paddle is the instrument of correction from what I can gather.
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I wonder if the cane is the instrument of correction. The BVI probably is using the cane. It’s interesting that Canada was using the strap while the USA was using the switch and the paddle. In Oklahoma to this day the switch is mentioned as a permissible instrument in school.
British Virgin Islands:
Corporal punishment can be carried out in schools, by the principal, deputy principal or by one senior teacher appointed in writing. Corporal punishment of children is not allowed in other institutions or forms of care.
[Oklahoma Code] Parents/teachers/other persons can use ordinary force as a means of discipline, including but not limited to spanking, switching, or paddling.
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Sep 13, 2014#126
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Criminal Liability for the Punishment of Children: An Evaluation of Means and Ends. Sheldon S Levy. Page 725.
Americans make not one explicit mention of the cane, birch or the slipper. That’s for sissies.
Employing every type of manipulable instrument from a “black snake” whip to an iron ram- rod, 5green mesquite switch is among many instruments of correction used including: stick, tree limb, plain switch, persimmon switch, two-pronged switch, bois d’arc switch, hickory switch, rubber belt, waist belt, piece of board, wooden paddle, old saw, ox whip, buggy whip, riding whip, walking cane, ferrule, leather strap, razor strap, rubber pipe, “cat-o’-nine-tails”, rubber syphon hose, ruler, knotted bed cord, broom, rope, rattan, cowskin, hands, and the traditional hair brush.
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Sep 13, 2014#127
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello American Way,
Some most interesting finds in your current round of posts. Thank you. I seldom venture to disagree with you on a matter of fact, but you say above:
In the list of implements you give below that statement is ‘rattan’. What is a rattan but a cane by another name? </div>
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Sep 13, 2014#128
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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It is interesting the countries use different words for corporal punishment. Australia uses the word “smacking” for the more commonly used word as in “spanking” that specifically refers to the open palm on the bottom. Also, you won’t see “thrashing” as often as you do in Australia as well. In school accounts of males “spanking” 17-year-old girls in high school we know that means to paddle here. It should not conjure up images of teenage girls over their teacher’s knees. That’s an English vice we are spared.
The use of the word spanking in this 1915 memorable classic posting (self praise is no praise) I recently unearthed in my beavering is a prime example.
The American School Board Journal, Volumes 50-51. It is also available of Google books.
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Mea Culpa. I left out the middle page of that classic posting. I have revised it under the Corporal Punishment on the Lighter Side.
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Sep 13, 2014#129
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Sep 13, 2014#130
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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18-year-old girls school spanking.
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Sep 13, 2014#131
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Sep 13, 2014#132
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Sep 14, 2014#133
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Re: oldest spanked or given school detention September 6 2011 at 3:08 PM. American Way wrote.
It is from a fetish site so I’m not sure if photos were attached subsequently or were affixed originally to the NYT story.
Three years ago I expressed my misgivings about the picture to my credit.
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Sep 14, 2014#134
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello American Way,
You did indeed express doubts about the picture three years ago and you are to be congratulated on your perspicacity. In those far off days of primitive search engines and even more primitive browsers the means to readily verify such suspicions did not exist.</div>
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Sep 14, 2014#135
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Hello American Way
It is interesting the countries use different words for corporal punishment. Australia uses the word “smacking” for the more commonly used word as in “spanking” that specifically refers to the open palm on the bottom. Also, you won’t see “thrashing” as often as you do in Australia as well.
My understanding is that in Australia “smack” might refer to one or a small number of smacks with the open hand, usually on the bottom, hand or leg. A “spanking” would also be with an open hand, most commonly over the knee. A “thrashing” would be a more severe punishment with an implement, often with a belt. I am not aware of “smacking” being used as a noun – it doesn’t make sense.
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Sep 14, 2014#136
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Hello A-L and American Way
The Bristow Iowa story certainly sounds like an amusing hoax. Did the New York Times go in for such in those days or maybe the story came through the 1907 equivalent of social media.
Concepts such as a town of 317 people having a high school and 18 year old girls going to school in rural Iowa in 1907 are highly dubious.
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Sep 14, 2014#137
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello Oliver Sydney,
You make some very valid points regarding the Bristow, Iowa spanking story. Equally absurd is the idea that a town the size of Bristow, if it had a Public School system at all, would be able to give its Head a pay increase of $46,000 ($1,800 in 1907 equates to $46,000 in today’s money).
However, the idea of 18 year old girls (or rather six girls whose ages averaged 18) being in school is not absurd. In rural areas of the US classes seem to have often encompassed pupils over a wide range of ages. Often there was only one class, and as people in such areas got their education when they could classes sometimes included near-adults, or even adults, of both sexes.
Teachers seem frequently to have subjected these older pupils to the same corporal punishments as younger students if they were capable of enforcing such a regime. American Way has linked press accounts where allegedly the application, or attempted application, of CP to pupils of more mature years has led to both matrimony and murder.
Much the same situation of classes encompassing a very wide range of ages may be found in some parts of the world today, again especially in rural areas. I recall what seemed an absolutely genuine account of a young woman in her twenties in Africa who had been forced to leave education very young to work, but had now been able to return to school and had been caned with younger girls in her class for some infraction. Given time I may even be able to locate it. Other times, other places, other mores.
As regards the Bristow 1907 spankings report, I don’t think the New York Times was actually responsible for appending the pictures of British schoolgirls and claiming them as victims. That I suspect was done by the fetish CP site where the link came from, as you’ll see if you look at the URL. Other fetish CP sites, including the one whose report I linked, seem to have jumped on the bandwagon. Indeed, it is impossible without a lot of trouble to be sure who did it first.
That said, I think late 19th and early 20th century US Papers often had a rather droll sense of humour, and they certainly liked a good school corporal punishment story. And as the old journalistic maxim goes, ‘never let the truth get in the way of a good story’! </div>
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Sep 14, 2014#138
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Hi Another Lurker (and others)!
You said above: “Scroll almost to the bottom of this most interesting Blog page (TUESDAY, 4 SEPTEMBER 2012 entry).”
…but do not forget to see another interesting thing on this blok at the same page – playing with numbers (2012-09-03 23:45:00) with the title “TAW challenge..Numbers..”
at least for me, an interesting image with some number calculations – nothing to do with this thread I know, but I find it amousing and interesting.
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Sep 15, 2014#139
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello Me From Denmark,
I am pleased that you found the page interesting, especially the numerical item. I certainly found it quite fascinating and very very beautiful. The lady who compiles it is clearly hugely talented, but is it appears very sadly largely confined to a wheelchair, and coping with responsibilities which would tax even a fully able person.
The page I linked was of course an archive page from 2012. The current page is to be found here and the full archive of all pages may be accessed from there. Truly a work of art and intellect and I hope that if the author monitors her visitors she is not disconcerted by an influx of links from an SCP site. Somehow though I think that she is likely to take it in her stride!</div>
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Sep 16, 2014#140
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Mrs. Laura Spencer, 45 years old, a teacher in the, Avon high school, and Neil Thomas Gushing, 19 years old, a student in the same school, recently announced that they were married last October, Mrs. Spencer has five children, three of them older than her present husband. She is preceptress and teacher of Latin in the Avon school, and is said to be a teacher of exceptionable ability. The young men classmates of the husband struck upon the announcemen of the marriage, but returned to classes when Mrs. Cushing tendered her resignation. The couple were secretly married they say, on an automobile trip to Pennsylvania last fall.
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Sep 16, 2014#141
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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I should have link this one first.
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Sep 16, 2014#142
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Sep 20, 2014#143
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Richmond Class of 1954 reunion.
Image 21 and 22. What a monster paddle? Do you see any girls names? Girls were well behaved. I would be surprised in 1954 Richmond VA.
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Arthur Ashe’s place in Richmond Virginia was not bereft of controversy.
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Sep 20, 2014#144
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello American Way,
With regard to the Richmond, Virginia, High School Class of ’54 reunion you observed above:
What an interesting link! The difficulties of getting people together 60 years down the line in a vast Nation like the USA must be immense, and the article provides some details on what was involved.
As regards CP I suspect that you are correct. Reading between the lines I’d guess it was boys only. But what of that monster paddle? My guess is that it wasn’t a school paddle, but a souvenir item made for the reunion with the attention of getting attendees to sign it. Not only does the ‘paddle’ look brand new but the signatures look remarkably fresh and I’d say all done with the same marker pen.
Only one side of the paddle is shown and at at the time of the photographs it had 17 signatures, and a glyph which may or not be a signature. The signatures I can decipher all appear to be male. There were 32 members of the class at the reunion. If only boys were paddled I wonder if the signatures are those of the male attendees. Unfortunately there is no attendance list to check this. Possibly men signed one side, ladies the other, but that would reduce the display possibilities of the item.</div>
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Sep 26, 2014#145
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Banolin (Sharp) was a popular Korean Drama featured priorly. Here is a brief synopsis.
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The man never is separated from his teaching tool.
Multi-talented use of an instrument of correction
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“Falling River Water.” with a cane used as a baton to force the girls to sing to their chagrin.
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Her crazy eye teacher almost played boobie bongo with his young charge.
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Lee Ok-Lim, played by Go Ara, the star actresses, is now 24 and very wealthy. She was born in 1990. She may not had fulfilled her dream of being an international star but her beauty and talent and has accomplished success as a professional model.
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Oct 29, 2014#146
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The Canada School Journal – 1880
Even in the nineteenth century concerns over the Instrument of correction as it relates to indictment can be sound. Page 279
The instrument should be such as will produce immediate pain, without marking or permanently injuring the child. A piece of rubber belting, fifteen inches long, and and a half broad, is probably the best that can be procured. This will produce results severe enough to be a ” terror to evil doers,” without injuring the child, or exposing the teacher to indictment in court. If punishment be given with a cane, it leaves ugly marks for some time, even though the punishment may have been light.
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Oct 31, 2014#147
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Birch and Broomstick. Burlington free press (Vermont) July 2, 1852.
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Nov 03, 2014#148
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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History of Scott County, Virginia By Robert M. Addington
The switch and the old time school teacher.
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Those teachers who believed in corporal punishment and were rough in its administration were most in demand. … In cases of disorder, arising within the school room, the offenders were designated by the teacher “pitching the switch” at them.
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Nov 04, 2014#149
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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same girl getting a caning
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Nov 04, 2014#150
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello roofy,
And if you haven’t posted here before, may I please say a personal welcome to the Forum.
Under some circumstances it is possible to embed videos in threads, but this is probably not what you want to do as it can be quite complex.
Provided that you know the URL of the video itself, or of a page which plays the video, just post that URL. Network54 will then translate it into something which will enable most visitors to see the video, and if there are any problems I or someone else will attempt to sort them out.
Be sure to post the whole URL, beginning with http or https as appropriate.</div>
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Nov 05, 2014#151
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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girl gets seven hard strokes with cane and cries out each time.
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Nov 05, 2014#152
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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the three girls on couch
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Nov 05, 2014#153
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Hi roofy,
You posted a clip from a rather outdated Korean soap opera showing the fictional punishment of a girl with the handle of a kitchen broom, but you made no comment.
Did you post it because you think it showed injustice? In which way is it relevant to this forum?
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Nov 05, 2014#154
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello hcj,
I note that your query above is addressed to roofy9987, but as he or she is a very new contributor and I encouraged the contribution in question by telling them how to post it I feel justified in intervening.
I did not question or discourage the post roofy9987 obviously intended because it appeared to me to be entirely within the principle generally observed here, that posts can follow the thread. The title used by roofy9987 in enquiring how to post the video was taken from American Way’s September 26 2014, 7:06 PM post in the thread above, even down to the spelling mistake in the Korean TV series title in the first line of American Way’s contribution, which roofy9987 then corrected when posting the video. The query, and indeed the subsequent video link, were clearly in response to an item already in the thread. We may not all agree with the idea that contributions can follow where the thread leads (though personally I do) but I do not think roofy9987 is in any way at fault for observing it.</div>
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Nov 05, 2014#155
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>The Snset High paddling incident linked by roofy9987 above has been much discussed here in the past, in particular in two TWP threads, You Be The Judge… and QUESTIONS YOU ALWAYS WANTED TO ASK TWP II, and in the As Recent as it gets thread.
As the title of this thread is ‘Instruments of correction’ here and here are a couple of my posts on the paddle which may (or more likely may not) have been used in the Sunset Elementary paddling, and which features in the video.</div>
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Nov 05, 2014#156
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello roofy9987,
Thank you for your contributions, I hope that you will continue to post. Many of us have found it appropriate to comment on how our interest in school CP has arisen, and what practical experience we have of it, directly or by observation. You may wish to to this at some stage and it is appreciated by other contributors.
I note that one or more of the links in your second post today have had to be deleted by the Forum Moderators. When telling you how to post videos I didn’t issue any warnings because as noted above your intended ‘banolim caning’ post seemed to me to be fully in accord with the practises I and others follow here. I should perhaps have said that links to sites which are generally held to be pornographic are not permitted by the rules of Network54. Links to sites which are fetishistic rather than pornographic might occasionally be permissible if they are particularly relevant to a topic, but very careful consideration must be given to what a visitor to such a page might see by scrolling or clicking on links, prior warnings might be necessary, and until one has extensive experience of how things work here if there is any doubt about a link it is perhaps best avoided.</div>
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Nov 06, 2014#157
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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“Did you post it because you think it showed injustice? In which way is it relevant to this forum?”
you are right, not relevant. will post elsewhere.
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Nov 06, 2014#158
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Hi roofy,
The video isn’t posted in the wrong place. Perhaps I used the wrong words; I’d just like to know what it was that interested you about the video that made you want to post it.
Although it is fiction, the choice of a kitchen broom as an “instrument of correction” is well-known in South Korea, as are many other domestic items.
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Nov 16, 2014#159
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Instruments of correction in early US history. May I dare to say one would be hard pressed to find such informative postings in any other forum. That’s why A_L has rightly coined the expression the estimable Forum.
April 17, 1904 Chicago Tribune.
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Jan 30, 2015#160
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Paddle vs Strap.
He (Brant Street School principal, Robert Holmeshaw) contended that the use of the paddle was more humane than the leather strap.
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The disparity of memories about school officials applying corporal punishment never ceases to amaze me. That applied to my own parochial school. A significant factor is probably the family attitude toward domestic corporal punishment. I have yet to see a percentage read out on raw numbers or by gender the opt outs applicable to the paddle in the deep south.
Page 4. Alumni of the 1980s and 1990s continue to cherish strong memories of the late Bob Holmeshaw, the school’s much- loved principal and coach. Mr. Holmeshaw wasn’t just an
administrator who enforced rules and doled out discipline.
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Feb 11, 2015#161
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The switch. .
African American Culture and Adrien Peterson.
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Gillian Jacobs and Troy Barnes. Gillian finds the perfect switch.
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The perfect switch to teach Britta to respect her elders.
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And the beats go on.
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Jun 05, 2015#162
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The Deseret News – Oct 2, 1908
Instruments of correction. Hand, strap, slipper or find a good elastic barrel stave some where and whittle it off at one end until a good hand-hold Is secured.
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Jul 31, 2015#163
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Instruments of correction in America’s days of yore. Chicago Tribune. April 17, 1904.
Another brutal Boston master struck his scholars on the head with a ferule until this was forbidden by the school directors; he then whipped the soles of his pupils’ feet and roared out in an ecstasy of cruelty, “O, the caitiffs! It is good for them.”
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Aug 02, 2015#164
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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A decade ago a paddling of an 18-year-old San Antonio TX, girl named Jessica Serafin gathered much attention as did the paddle named Ole Thunder.
I wrongly assumed that the description of the instrument of correction was exaggerated. One would find it a challenge to wield such a weapon even upon the willing backside.
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She said in court papers that when principal Brett Wilkinson sought to paddle her on that day in June 2004, she asked to withdraw herself from the school instead. Her request was refused, and two school employees helped restrain Serafin while the principal began paddling her. After the first strike, Serafin freed one of her hands, which was struck by the paddle. The principal allegedly told her, “That hit didn’t count,” and he struck her again, according to the former student’s account. Serafin called her mother and left the school after the paddling, which left her buttocks bleeding and her hand swollen, according to court papers. She was treated at a hospital emergency room.
The courts were not sympathetic to her appeal.
Wilkinson administered corporal punishment to each with a wooden paddle. In attempting to block the paddle with her hand, Serafin’s hand suffered minor, temporary injuries Once she enrolled, albeit 18, she was to be treated no differently according to the court.
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I wrongly assumed that the description of the instrument of correction was a 4 foot paddle. Brett Wilkinson would find that a challenge to wield even with the most cooperative of miscreants.
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Superintendent Ricky Hooker parted company with the school not after the incident.
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He is the proud father of a daughter, Destinee, whose athletic career became renowned and now a grandfather.
“When it comes to my name, I honestly find nothing wrong with it. I love my name,” she says. “I have been dealing with it since I was a child. People can be childish.”Hooker, a Texas native, says her father, former San Antonio Spur player Ricky Hooker, uniquely named her after she nearly died at birth. “Since I was a blessing, [my father] spelled it uniquely. So I am thankful to be here and glad my dad gave me the name.”
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She became quite a destiny of her own.
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She is now a daughter of a preacher man. I wonder if he spared rod? Her size wouldn’t matter if he brought that 4 ft paddle home with him.
Pastor of The Fountain Christian Church in San Antonio.
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Jessica is all grown up.
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Aug 03, 2015#165
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Hi American Way,
I’ve replied re Jessica Serafin on southern education. I put it there as whilst it deals with the case it seemed a bit off topic here!
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Aug 03, 2015#166
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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American Way wrote:
I wrongly assumed that the description of the instrument of correction was exaggerated. One would find it a challenge to wield such a weapon even upon the willing backside.
The wide angle lens of the camera makes this paddle look longer than it really is, but whatever the dimensions, it is more of a cudgel than an “Instrument of Correction”. Why would anyone want to use such a thing?
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Hello HCJ,
You ask
The wide angle lens of the camera makes this paddle look longer than it really is, but whatever the dimensions, it is more of a cudgel than an “Instrument of Correction”. Why would anyone want to use such a thing?
Good question.
As I’ve said on the southern education thread, I think the answer is ‘educational terrorism’. For principals whose world doesn’t extend beyond ‘my way or the highway’ doubtless such a monster makes them feel less insecure. Being able to have the power to hold an eighteen year old female down and make her ‘bleed’might help as well. (I’m assuming they probably mean the paddling created a hematoma, anything else should have voided the shield law defense). What they forget is that with power comes the responsibility to use it judiciously.
Anyone picking the monster paddle doesn’t understand the meaning of that word.
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Aug 04, 2015#168
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Aug 04, 2015#169
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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We shall probably never know. However cases like this do give at least some retrospective credence to claims that all paddlings should be recorded on video as evidence of what actually happened should such evidence be required subsequently as a result of legal action. However the practical problems surrounding this are probably not capable of safe and effective solution.
What about NetLicks, an on-demand Internet streaming service for the documentation of all SCP?
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Aug 04, 2015#170
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello KK,
Excellent! It is well known that the right name, just the right name, and only the right name is essential to the success of such an enterprise, and in ‘NetLicks’ you have the right name.
A few years ago I would have been reaching for my cheque book, scenting an excellent commercial opportunity. But now alas I fear that public funding will be required. The huge commercial output of high quality HD videos of fantasy SCP has completely swamped the market and rendered turning a quick profit in this specialist niche very unlikely. To say nothing of all the students worldwide recording classroom SCP on their mobile phones and putting it on YouTube for free. And then of course all those South Korean and Thai TV soaps where a few pretty ‘schoolgirls’ getting one or more of the myriad ingenious forms of SCP once legal in those countries is de rigueur in at least every third episode.
Ah well, as I said, a great name! </div>
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Nov 05, 2015#171
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Corporal punishment during the Colonial days of the United States used an arsenal of instruments. Ouch.
April 17, 1904 Chicago Tribune.
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Dec 10, 2015#172
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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February 1931. The paddle. Sigma Phi Epsilon.
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Jan 01, 2016#173
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Fli-Back Paddle as an educational tool.
Tales from a Free-range Childhood by Donald Davis 2011.
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Paddle (vintage toy) for smaller children.
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Trailer Misfit. Marilyn Monroe.
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Priorly posted Marilyn Monroe with a toy paddle 1961.
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It didn’t happen in as shown in Challenge For Men.
Sample.
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Picture from a dicey site.
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Jan 18, 2016#174
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Redneck Heaven, not surprisingly, eschews the paddle (school) in favor of the belt (home) when it comes to administering the strap to birthday boys.
They do spank their own on birthdays as Yasmine becomes painfully aware.
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A more traditional birthday spanking with a paddle is something that girls get on an hourly basis at the Heart Attack Grill. I based that on the Tout videos under Heart Attack grill with their on going video.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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I like to think I am modern and up-to-date, progressive even. But I struggle when it comes to birthday spankings of boys. I am not referring to the weird notion that boys should be spanked on their birthday but rather to the feminine appearance, behaviour and shrill voice of the “boy” in American Way’s hyperlink.
Is she a boy? Or, is it now customary to call girls who behave like boys, boys? Or ???
Someone, please clarify.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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I want chromosomal analysis or failing that have our veteran Heart Attack Grill visitor, Bob T’s take on the matter. KK you have brought unnecessary controversy here and have shown little empathy to Bob T who has made us all the wiser. If I’m wrong I will be the first to apologize for posting boys being spanked. Kind of guy I am, was and always will be. That’s not a telling denial. So there.
Things are a bit slow so maybe manufacturing controversy is not all that bad of an idea. But let’s not get too sidetracked.
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Jan 31, 2016#178
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Captain Patee Wise Suggestion. An arsenal of instruments of correction to choose from.
Evening times-Republican., October 24, 1907 Marshaltown Iowa
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Feb 15, 2016#179
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Supplement to my March 14, 2010 posting about the dreaded switch.
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Mar 19, 2016#180
In this 1936 article entitled Hairbrush Tune there is a variety of instruments of correction listed under the generic term “spank”. Switches, rulers, open palms, slabs, shingles, two by fours, dog whips and buggy whips. Let’s hope they were no all used.
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The last listing of a rubber hose being used that I could find was in 1972 in New Mexico. Being a relatively remote area it could very well been the last time a student was hit with a rubber hose. You couldn’t say to your teacher up your nose with a rubber hose.
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Herald Democrat, February 3, 1904
Up-to-date method of the gentle art of school corporal punishment or how to apply the rubber hose?
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Apr 07, 2016#181
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Debbie: Bare bottom spankings of teens were not all that uncommon even until the 1960’s in my neck of the woods but it was rarely over the knee (hairbrush/paddle) variety but on the lie on the tummy (belt/strap) variety in the deep south? Years ago parents would be more likely to be armed with hairbrushes (when they were made of wood) than armed with paddles. I would assume the switch in rural areas were more likely to be used and may be fading away with time.
By the late seventies it would seem in some areas of the country bare bottom spankings went out of fashion for it was after the end of the age of the innocence. American Way
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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In uk schools the implements used for corporal punishment were mainly the cane and strap or tawse. The birch, which I think is the equivalent of the switch went out of use in favour of the cane sometime in the late 19th century although it may have been retained and used in some public schools beyond this period.
Whether the use of any of these implements was ever used on bare flesh other than hands in the uk is debatable especially in state schools although there probably are some isolated incidents of punishments administered in this way.
Which of these implements was the most painful would be, I would think be dependent on the amount of force used in the administration of the punishment.
Lisa.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Hi American Way,
Debbie: Bare bottom spankings of teens were not all that uncommon even until the 1960’s in my neck of the woods but it was rarely over the knee (hairbrush/paddle) variety but on the lie on the tummy (belt/strap) variety in the deep south? Years ago parents would be more likely to be armed with hairbrushes (when they were made of wood) than armed with paddles.
I think the tradition which is still alive and well in MS and the south is often maintained by the churches. One of our churches puts it this way
We will not be deterred from our sensible course by social engineers who want to replace parents with a failed philosophy. We will go on doing what our parents and grandparents and great-grandparents have done for many generations: we will train our children with all the means we deem best to bring them up to be responsible, emotionally stable, productive individuals. Get used to it. We are here to stay.
By the way, our happy children are multiplying at four times the national average. Your unruly and undisciplined children will soon need a job. Don’t worry; our properly spanked, highly motivated, well-educated kids will be hiring. (No greater Joy ministry 2014)
or Jack Hiles in his book on parenting, written for Baptist church members
The spanking should be administered firmly. It should be painful and it should last until the child’s will is broken. It should last until the child is crying not tears of anger but tears of a broken will. As long as he is stiff, grits his teeth, holds on to his own will, the spanking should continue.
or the Bethal church guide to parenting
Parents who do not practice corporal punishment are depriving their children of the only method God says produces wisdom and risk directly opposing God’s will
those are just three random quotes. I hold a far more nuanced position,but a large part of the community don’t. Paddles have tended to replace the hairbrush,and now lexan is replacing wood. The strap is still used a lot,especially on older kids. It has always been popular as a means of discipline down here.
I would assume the switch in rural areas were more likely to be used and may be fading away with time.
Yes I would agree. Actually it is a good thing too. The switch only works on the bare, and frequently leads to cuts and bleeding. At least it did when my Mom used it in the red flush of anger !
By the late seventies it would seem in some areas of the country bare bottom spankings went out of fashion for it was after the end of the age of the innocence. American Way
Yes, but down here and at home Mom doesn’t see anything she hasn’t seen 100 times before. There are advantages to ensuring there is no damage inflicted, and where the tradition is handed down then this element often is passed along with it. I have no doubt there are an equal number of parents who allow some modesty when spanking, but certainly the vast majority in my area support and practise paddling or strapping at home in one form or another. This part of the country whilst being nowhere near as liberal in terms of developing adolescent sexuality, is still an area where the shame on nudity in the family is less developed, perhaps in poorer families the lack of privacy explains that. We are concerned about our teenagers acting ‘fast’ but that doesn’t mean they have the privacy afforded to kids in Northern homes or apartments
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Amador Ledger. 28 February 1902
Benefits of the Birch.
The cane should never be used as the ordinary instrument of school punishment. A cane may possibly bring about Irreparable damage, and caning on the hands is the most senseless and cruel form of punishment imaginable. The birch is the best Implement of punishment for small boys. First it hurts; secondly, if applied in reason, it does no harm.— London Lancet.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Being from the UK I had the slipper across my backside a few times, only at home though, so it was a carpet slipper rather than the plimsoll used in schools at the time.
I’ve grown very fond of it’s use for spanking, mainly because it makes an amazing sound on impact due to the hollow shape, obviously different types of sole produce a slightly different sound, but they all seem to make a nice hollow ‘thud’ or ‘whop’.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello dphil,
My duties as the Forum’s meeter and greeter (unofficial, acting, unpaid) are becoming increasingly complex and I confess that I am losing track of who is who. Thus sadly I am uncertain if you are a long established contributor recently returned to the fold, the person who commenced posting as Phil and then I think morphed into Phil 2, or a recently arrived new contributor. If the latter may I please say a personal welcome to the Forum and I hope you will find much here that interests you and causes you to contribute.
You say of your experience of the slipper, or rather the carpet slipper:
Hmm, to each his own. But it may not be as much fun as getting birched!
I suspect that the sound produced by the size 12 leather soled sandal which the entry Form Master at my Secondary School used as a substitute for a plimsoll did not endear itself to those of my fellow pupils in receipt of it in quite the same way. Just about the only boy who didn’t evince distinct signs of tears had been used to six of the best on the bare with a cane at his Prep School. I only once found myself touching my toes anticipating experience of the sandal after some classroom misdemeanour, inattention if my memory serves me correctly, but after a sufficient interval to make the point I was told to stand up and not do it again. The juvenile Another_Lurker was quite apprehensive about SCP and he probably saw my knees knocking in my short trousers and took pity on me.
My only personal experience in receipt of the slipper was at Junior School. Before bending over the desk I can remember that long walk to the front from the back of the class where sat the swots and goody goodies, of which I was one, and that feeling that all eyes were on me. Afterwards I can recall the periodic feeble taunts of an academic rival who when defeated in tests took refuge in reminding me that I’d been whacked with his slipper which the teacher borrowed for the occasion. But the actual punishment made very little impression as alas I can’t even recall for sure how many whacks it was let alone how it felt or what it sounded like.</div>
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Hello Another Lurker, I signed up and started posting just over a month ago now, the first few posts appeared then they stopped appearing for some reason and after emailing my log in details in another thread on here, all is ok now.
I notice that there are other Phils on here so maybe I should change my user name, I have used the name PHIL 2 recently to differentiate myself from any others but maybe there is another PHIL 2 knocking around. Hope this clears up any confusion.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Thank you for the clarification. I think I have the matter clear in my mind now! </div>
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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KK This was extracted from a book you just referenced. In the first chapter found in the table of contents you will find some good material.
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Custom made for class clown like the Joker!
Mr. Brockhaus always used a Batwap to swat students with. A Batwap was a red, plastic paddle shaped like a bat’s wing, and was fashioned after the Batman TV series. Brockhaus used the plastic one for awhile, but then made a better one out birch. He’d swat you with anything, but some kids got it more than others. Peter Lugo was one such kid. Lugo was a dim-witted Mexican boy who never caused…
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Sign of the times. Royal buttocks spared. Prince George’s nanny is barred from smacking.
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The Ward County independent. (Minot, N.D.) October 09, 1919.
Prince George, the present king, loved peach tarts, and often managed to get away from his numerous tutors to beg some tarts before dinner. One day he took one while my back was turned. I grasped him by the back of his collar, laid him across my knee and administered the soundest spanking that a peer of England ever received. I remember using a wooden cooking spoon as the instrument of correction. The queen laughed heartily when she heard of the incident.
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As a footnote another Prince George was spanked by his father at 17.
San Francisco Call, June 12, 1904.
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The wooden spoon can be a formidable instrument of correction as shown here again.
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The switch. .
African American Culture and Adrien Peterson.
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Gillian Jacobs and Troy Barnes. Gillian finds the perfect switch.
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The perfect switch to teach Britta to respect her elders.
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The black cultural use of the switch was pervasive but as corporal punishment has declined generationally. The Afro Latina actress, Selenis Leyva, and her daughter are not notable in this regard.
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Discipline by switch.
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The switch. .
African American Culture and Adrien Peterson.
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Gillian Jacobs and Troy Barnes. Gillian finds the perfect switch.
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The perfect switch to teach Britta to respect her elders.
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The cultural divide between black and white. K MICHELLE and the switch. Sweet justices in having to find the instrument of your own correction.
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Jun 23, 2016#194
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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In certain parts of our nation the age of being considered a grown up is often in the late teens. Turning a girl over the knee seems a bit awkward. A hairbrush is not something usually a father would have handy.
debbie112 would you agree that a girl lying face down and bottoms up to receive the belt would be a more common position than over the knee at that age and that a man would be more likely to use a belt rather than a wooden instrument of correction?
The film Tank had a snippet but now can be scene in context but not in English.
Jenilee Harrison gets a thorough thrashing. She was in her twenties and playing a younger role. debbie112 is this not altogether unrealistic depiction in 2016?
29:30 minutes into the film in the second link.
I don’t think she was expecting to get off with just a lecture. His partner thought he was in for a show. His facial expression sure changed in a hurry.
Daddy’s little girl is getting too big for her britches.
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Jun 23, 2016#195
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Buffalo Courier Express. April 1, 1967. Bishop Sheen’s column.
What are the historical antecedents to the decline of spanking? Garages and safety razors. Ancient manuscripts testify that a flat shingle, or a razor strap were the common instruments for disciplining the young. The shingle came from the woodshed, the razor strap from the bathroom. As garages came in, woodsheds went out. As safety razors came in, razor straps disappeared. It remains for statisticians to determine whether juvenile delinquency has not increased in direct ratio to the decline of the straight razor and woodshed.
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Aug 31, 2016#196
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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This paddle was probably made at their school shop. Do you think it was ever used in a disciplinary context? Why make a paddle if it’s not going to be used?
The instrument of correction itself would have its deterrent value for linebackers when swung moderately with one hand.
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It wasn’t that long ago that holes in paddles were standard fare.
I went to a public school. If I remember correctly it wasn’t until I was in 8th grade before they got rid of spanking. We were always given the choice of 2 hits with a solid paddle or 1 hit with the one with holes in it.
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If you recall when Renee assumed a position where she was in charge of the paddling she confiscated inappropriate paddles. Some, but not I’m sure all schools, don’t specifically forbid holes for policies vary from state to state.
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“A wooden paddle approximately 24 inches in length, 3 inches wide and ½ inch thick is recommended. Paddles with holes, cracks, splinters, tape or other foreign material shall not be used for corporal punishment”.
In Pickens County Board of Education in Alabama, Nancy Guillen would have been spared the tape had she lived in this school district.
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I am pleased as pudding to announce that she has turned her life around after a rocky start that almost led to her expulsion from the Courage to Submit Hall of Fame.
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Rocky Start.
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Sep 24, 2016#197
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Daily Times. July 13, 2014. Oak Ridge High School TN.
You see, Coach Orlando in 1975 kept a basket full of paddles. Big paddles. Little paddles. Paddles with holes. I don’t think he had a paddle with spikes but he could have. And he still believed in corporal punishment. I don’t know what happened in that windowless office but I’ve got a pretty good idea.
Oh, and on a tangent: If you ever attend an Oak Ridge High School football game at Blankenship Field in Oak Ridge, sometime during the second half, the announcer will say “will Coach Orlando please report to the pressbox.” Coach Orlando died in 1997 so obviously they really aren’t looking for him. It’s just a cool tradition that goes back to the 1960’s.
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RIP. 1915 – 1997.
Nicholas Thomas Orlando
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Feb 23, 2017#198
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Holy Toledo! 5,000 spankings with his trusty 30 inch birch rod from 21-year-old to 68-year-old retirement. Mr Louis Palm of Toledo, Ohio lived in Toledo.
The Age. October 11, 1956.
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Feb 25, 2017#199
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Flappers may endure an arsenal of instruments of correction but marriage is the only cure.
See Who Gets Spanked.
Sound of swatting slipper resounds from coast to coast. Many flappers eating meals off the mantel temporarily and promising to be good.
Spanked flapper is a very dismal piece of work and has not a flap left in her.
Mothers and fathers, responding to popular demand, are wielding energetic footgear, and in some neighborhoods it sounds like loud applause in theatre, punctuated by squeals of outraged heroine of the melodrama.
Many flappers take spunky pen In hand and write sarcastic letters to newspapers about being spanked. Editors of newspapers do not do the spanking. Why write to them?
Pa and ma getting much physical training out in dear old woodshed. If Pa is strong enough to spank the flapper of the family maybe he can muster up enough muscle to larrup rugs that are hung on clothesline, but this is doubtful. One is a pleasure and the other is hard work.
Nature probably intended the flapper to be spanked and built her accordingly, but it has taken parents a long time to find this out.
In some neighborhoods where new buildings are going up, shingles take the place of slippers and are said to be much more effective. In some towns, however, there are more flappers than shingles. Flyswatters, are good and some parents have tried using ukuleles, but the latter make music which is worse than Flapperism.
One man stole his daughter’s cigarettes and lipstick and she just had to stay at home nights, but most flappers are too clever be caught that way.
Some people say that it Is the parents who should be spanked for letting their daughters flap around nights, but some people are always saying something.
Old-fashioned wooden spoon has come back into style, also old wooden butter paddle. One of propeller blades from airplane is also handy for flapper spanking.
It is not genteel to resort to use of an ironing board or baseball bat except In extreme cases.
Burned child dreads fire. Spanked flappers dreads the slipper but she goes right out and flaps the same as usual.
Only thing that cures the flapper is marriage. Then she changes from the receiving to the broadcasting end of the propositions.
Washington Times August 13, 1922.
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Feb 25, 2017#200
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Thin may be in but fat is where it is at. The Turkish cure for the fashionable fat beauties.
Albany Times December 18, 1938.
The time-honored method of applying the Oriental method of chastisement is by beating the culprit on the bare soles of the feet, with a stick, after which the victim usually cannot walk comfortably for at least a week. Kemal, however,, wanted to discourage sitting down. He wanted them to stand up and dance. Therefore, he applied the bastinado elsewhere, in such a way that their feet were all right for dancing but they could not sit down for a long time.
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Mar 14, 2017#201
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The martinet as a school instrument of correction.
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Mar 16, 2017#202
The Canada School Journal – 1880
Even in the nineteenth century concerns over the Instrument of correction as it relates to indictment can be sound. Page 279
The instrument should be such as will produce immediate pain, without marking or permanently injuring the child. A piece of rubber belting, fifteen inches long, and and a half broad, is probably the best that can be procured. This will produce results severe enough to be a ” terror to evil doers,” without injuring the child, or exposing the teacher to indictment in court. If punishment be given with a cane, it leaves ugly marks for some time, even though the punishment may have been light.
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Thirty-two reasons why corporal punishment should not be abolished in our public schools. by George B. Hyde. Page 288.
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The Best Advice. The Strap in the School.
The Citizen Berea Kentucky March 3, 1904.
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Dr Lyman A Best was held in high esteem
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Apr 24, 2017#203
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Here are some interesting details from what school punishment was like in the nineteenth century.
Sausalito News August 27, 1898.
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May 04, 2017#204
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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In 1961 Niagara-On-The-Lake Canada there was the strapping of the hands.
Here is an account.
The incident, which happened Wednesday, was revealed yesterday when parents complained to the School Board. The mother of a 14-year-old girl complained that her daughter had been strapped on the hands until she revealed the names of o t h e r students involved in a paper throwing incident. Supposedly, the boys were strapped 14 to 20 times on one hand and she was strapped until her torture (4 strokes) yielded the names of the boys involved involved in the paper throwing. The teacher had to send for reinforcement to strap so many boys!
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In Niagara Falls New York the paddle was the preferred instrument of correction.
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Our poster Harold A. Hoff wrote a book pertaining to the strap in Canadian schools.
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May 07, 2017#205
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Quoting A_L post in the next link.
But how big is it? hcj’s comment that: The wide angle lens of the camera makes this paddle look longer than it really is totally correct and highly relevant. The apparent size of the paddle relative to anything not closely adjacent to it and a similar distance from the camera can simply not give us an idea of its size unless we have much technical data that is not available to us.
Nonetheless it is possible to deduce from the photograph that if that paddle is anywhere even close to four feet long Superintendent Ricky Hooker had some mighty large files and personal photographs! I’d say it is 24 to 30 inches long, 3½ to 4 inches wide and about ½ inch thick.
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At the School of Excellence of San Antonio Jessica Serafin had a painful encounter with O’le Thunder a dozen years ago. That’s a formidable instrument of correction. Would you say that was a foot longer than a yardstick? The only thing that looks more menacing than that paddle is Ricky Hooker.
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Excerpted from the next paddling link.
In the lawsuit, Jessica Serafin, 18, alleges an educator at San Antonio’s largest charter school used excessive force when he struck her with a wooden paddle known as “Ole Thunder.”
Attorneys for the defendants contend several statements in the lawsuit are false, including the information that the paddle measures four feet.
Ricky Hooker, superintendent of the three-campus, 1,520-student school system, said he asked two questions before accepting the job: Could he fire teachers? Could he use corporal punishment?
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May 08, 2017#206
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Ricky Hooker had an ignominious departure. They had the right to fire him and they chose to exercise their right not to use corporal punishment.
The paddle IMHO, I may be wrong and it won’t be the first time, I assume it to be four feet for that’s a common size for a fraternity paddle. I have not been able to match anything close to that configuration online. Ricky might schlep Ole Thunder online so keep an eye out.
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In 2009 he founded (owned and president) E L Broady Academy with six employees.
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Sorry big guy you can’t paddle them but you can hire and you can fire six employees.
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Jun 21, 2017#207
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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A rather detailed corporal punishment punishment is laid out in this letter. It is unusual for it mentions a light strap. This was the case however in San Bernardino California. Was the light strap destined for use on the hand. A strap, but not of a light kind, was used in principal’s office in the nineteen fifties here. The target was the bottom. It corresponded to the paternal belt in the days when the school was a natural extension of the home in small neighborhood schools.
October 7, 1955.
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Jun 27, 2017#208
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The merits of the rubber hose has often been heralded as the most favorable instrument of correction.
The Plymouth tribune. Plymouth, Indiana. September 30, 1909
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Jul 01, 2017#209
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The head of year at my Comp used occasionally to use bunsen burner tubing to whack boys backsides. At least, so it was reported by victims. He would threaten to “cane” or “slipper” boys, but he never mentioned “tubing” them. Experts felt that it was in between the slipper and the cane in severity. Interestingly, the slipper and the tube were applied to the bottom, but the cane was only applied to the hand. This may have been because the cane was thought of as an “official” punishment, where the others were more casual and off-record. In fact, the councils regulations clearly said that only the cane (or the open hand, on younger boys) could be used for punishment, so he could have lost his job or even ended up in court every time he used the tube. But everyone took it for granted.
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Jul 02, 2017#210
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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The boy who told me that he had been whacked with the bunsen tubing (for being in one of the science classrooms at playtime which I suppose was dangerous) was rather a clever, even geeky guy. I remember him saying that he accepted the pain as a punishment, but felt quite aggrieved that he had had to take it on his bum. It was like holding out his hand would have been a civilized, manly punishment, but bending over was babyish. I would have felt disappointed that it wasn’t the Cane…if I had to be punished, I wanted to know what the dreaded cane felt like.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Instruments of correction have many uses.
New York Evening World, August 17, 1921.
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“Gracious, but I do love a little mix-up with a masher. Just a little courage, girls, and you won’t be bothered again. Hit ’em straight and hard and then shriek like mad for a policeman. If you can sprint, just gather up your skirts and keep after them for all you are worth, because after the first blow he’ll be hot footing it like a deer.”
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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As an amateur researcher, too often the case, the verdict is not recorded. This turn of the century case of alleged principal brutality by David Williams is an example where the Library of Congress Newspaper leads to the New York Sun that doesn’t mentioned the outcome of the case. I’m sure the January 14 New York Sun carried a story about the acquittal but the paper was not included in their archives.
Fortunately, KK’s made me aware of the Old Fulton NY Post Cards site that covers many New York newspapers as well as many others.
All rubber hoses are not create equal. Some are weighted with sand and some are of lighter density and are referred to as rubber tubing.
The Sun New York January 7, 1899
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Principal Williams was exonerated in spite of the hard feelings engendered. The jury was empaneled from a town fifteen miles from the place to avoid local feeling.
The New York Herald January 14, 1899
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After his acquittal he sensibly resigned much to the sorrow of the School Board.
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Jul 06, 2017#213
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Arkansas Public Media December 2, 2016.
It’s peculiar that the article begins with the question, “the hand the strap or the paddle?”
I would think the readers and listeners would know after all these years it would be the paddle.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Some people feel that marks alone means brutality. This is a court case that proves otherwise.
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Prior posted under instruments of correction.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Studded belt on 8-year-old 2013 in a Alabama school that prohibits corporal punishment in a city of 180,000. This is not a backwoods whipping!
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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AW, this must be one of the worst cases of school child abuse imaginable. The boy was only 8 years old for Goodness sake. Even if I were in favour of SCP, this teacher went way OTT. The fact that he can’t be charged is ridiculous. To just lose your job is hardly justice, and every department is hiding behind another’s coat-tails.
This case is now 5 years old, so I don’t know if there is any evidence that the boy’s parents considered a civil action against either the school or the teacher. I certainly would.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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in many of the states in the american south that have retained scp, they are so obsessed with protecting teachers and administrators from “frivolous” prosecution or lawsuits that they have made it extremely difficult to protect children from even fairly severe abuse.
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Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
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Studded belt. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. It was indeed prior posted. I have not loss my memory. I’m glad I caught it before A_L would call it to my attention.
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Instruments of correction were sources of amusement and none more so then the “Evolution of Spanking.”
The Union times. December 14, 1906
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 60%2C1950/
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May 27, 2018#221
S – M Public schools. Sharon – Mutual Oklahoma.
Offenses for which the maximum penalty (amidst all these heinous offense includes public display of affection) will be corporal punishment by the teacher or principal: Corporal punishment regulations at the Sharon-Mutual Public Schools are based upon O.S. 21-844 which reads: “Parents, teachers, and other persons are permitted to use ordinary force as a means of discipline, including but not limited to spanking, switching or paddling.” The following procedures will be used to administer corporal punishment.Take the student(s) to the office at the next convenient time, so as not to leave other students unsupervised, or send for the principal.Check the student file. Determine if there is any medical reason prohibiting corporal punishment. c. Allow the student(s) to call home if he/she so desires, or if he/she refuses to take the corporal punishment If the parents are reached, the principal will either discipline the student or begin due process procedures for suspension. If the parents are not reached, the student will remain in the principal’s office. The principal will determine if the student will be sent back to class. Corporal punishment – An administrator must always be present.
http://www.smps.k12.ok.us/sharon-mutual … ndbook.pdf
Fetch me switch.
A quote, “When we were kids, a parent or grownup would send you to get a switch. You thought about the whipping you were about to get with each step toward the tree. You got the switch, removed the leaves, and brought it back knowing it was for your punishment.”
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/09/adrian … end-switch
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/355723147/
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Jun 07, 2018#222
They refer to the instrument of correction as a leather paddle soaked in brine. It looks more like a strap than a paddle.
The Day Book. September 6, 1912
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The prison strap.
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Jun 15, 2018#223
Here is an impressive array of instruments of correction. They won’t run out. What is a discipline master without his tools?
https://smkbandarsp.files.wordpress.com … siplin.jpg
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malaysian guru cikgu teacher stereotypes that we love and never forget
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The double standard.
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Jul 25, 2018#224
The closest thing I could find to a paddle is a six inch wide leather flapper in the 1904 Chicago Tribune posted priorly.
http://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/hi … Page=false
Unusual historic source for implements is the wheel of fortune is this soft core fiction site with its wheel of implement whe the paddle often dreaded more than the cane for “weal” or for woe.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11057600/3 … o-Spanking
The wheel’s paddle implement was shown before here on this teachers’ college student entrepeuneur’s lovely derrière. She could have received it as a member of a sorority judging by her willingness to take the consequence.
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Oct 04, 2018#225
Note the instrument of correction.
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Hello American Way;
In drawing attention to the instrument of correction I assume you were referring to the wooden clogs the poor kids were made to wear. A terrible punishment when used to modern trainers! ????
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holyfamilypenguin wrote:
Everywhere there are preferred instruments of correction. Obvious one of course is paddle versus cane or tawse or slipper but some may or may not be familiar with switch. This was the best I could find on a Yahoo site by Steve R. Here are snippets.
There is a plethora of sites both fetish or otherwise that describe the implements. There are others not mentioned as often like the ferule. We might want to limit it to school and not domestic. The slipper was rarely used here and the strap more often in Canada but was used in the punlic schools in the area that I grew up in the fifties but only by the principal for the mosr serious offense and always on the buttocks on August 26, 2007.
A switch makes an ominous ‘swoosh’ sound, rather like a whip, and can be agitated up and down quickly, so the lashes can rain down on the victim, who is usually a spankee, mostly bare bottom so it can ‘bite’ the skin. It hurts. While young children usually suffer it over the knee (or rather the lap), it can be more painful if the discipliner makes more elbow-room by ordering the punishee to lie or bend over an object, which can, especially if standing, increase the humiliation by exposing the genitals.
Switches are most efficient (i.e., painful and durable) if made of a strong but flexible type of wood, such as hazel (also use for a very severe birch) or hickory (see hickory stick); as the use of their names for disciplinary implements, without specification, and as verbs for lashing, indicates, birch and willow branches are time-honoured favorites, but branches from most strong trees and large shrubs can be used, often simply nearby from a garden, an orchard or the wild.
Making a switch is simply called cutting, as it only involves cutting it from the stem and removing twigs or directly attached leaves as those would lessen its sting (hence deliberately left on for sauna use). For optimal flexibility it is cut fresh shortly before use, rather than keeping it for re-use over considerable time.
Parents in the United States (where the wider paddle is the most common spanking implement) are reputed to threaten disobedient children with gifts of utilitarian coal and switches for Christmas should they not reform their behavior, although the actual practice of this is rare to the vanishing point, especially as most people live in urban areas where less suitable wood is easily at hand for the old-fashioned woodshed treatment and most modern educators consider such severe physical discipline cruel and it is often banned by law as child abuse.
In our house we use a wooden wide hairbrush to punish our children we have try everything for the children boy 8yo and a daughter 10yo of course when the where younger we used hand to punish them but as soon when they have the age of 8yo we started with the hairbrush and I must say that it works very good for our children
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The dreaded switch.
http://www.mychicagotherapist.com/go-ge … ild-abuse/
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Jan 25, 2019#229
The dreaded hickory stick was not a gentle instrument of correction.
And especially in 1897 at the hands of Miss Mary Dooley, teacher at the Don Day school, who was to have been tried before County School Commissioner Sparling for severely beating a son of Wiley Walker, one of the patrons of Miss Dooley’s school, with, a hickory stick, has avoided a legal investigation of the case by offering an apology to the badly battered and bruised boy’s father, Mr. Walker (having accepted her amende honorable).
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 05%2C4306/
https://farm9.static.flickr.com/8106/84 … 51e3_b.jpg
Times were changing by 1909.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 55%2C3420/
This should put a smile on your face.
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Feb 22, 2019#230
As things are quiet, this is from a Korean series. It shows domestic CP with an unusual instrument of correction.
Korea CP.jpg (92.24KiB)
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Oliver_Sydney
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Feb 22, 2019#231
Different episode, different implement:
Korean CP2.jpg (94.99KiB)
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Feb 22, 2019#232
Oh yes, to most of us that is a very unusual choice of implement, but Koreans have regularly used whatever they can lay their hands on when a spanking is required. The sweeping brush is one of the more common. Favourites also found around the home are shoe horns, fly swatters and rice scoops. Teachers and sports coaches are even more inventive in their choices, including plastic plumbing pipes, pool cues and even golf clubs. I never understood why they do so when properly designed punishment implements are readily available in markets and from on-line suppliers, even today, when CP is on the decline.
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Feb 25, 2019#233
This in an off color and off centered but typically French look at spanking. It is definitely adult viewing. It features the martinet in an array of other instruments of correction. You cannot get frenchier than this video no matter how hard you tried.
Search in Vimeo under fessee and there is a nine year old video. If you fast forward to 3:28 you can see the part that makes it relevant to the thread.
Due to privacy concerns it is can only be watched on Vimeo.
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Feb 25, 2019#234
Hello American Way,
Errm, as you said, “typically French look at spanking. It is definitely adult viewing” ????
But then we are dealing with a Nation where, according to ‘The Global Initiative to End All Corporal Punishment of Children’, CP of children is still not completely banned in n the home, alternative care settings, day care, schools and penal institutions. See the February 2019 updated report here.
So those martinets seen being manufactured in the video could possibly still be being deployed on the bare bottoms of naughty boys. Or indeed on the knickers and bare thighs of naughty girls as was reported by a contributor here at her French boarding school for girls, administered in front of the class age 17 in 1990.
The martinet is sometimes said to have been invented by a Major Martinet, commander of a French military academy, who was seeking to devise an implement suitable for use on the bared bottoms of officer-cadets. However possibly a more likely explanation of its origin is that it developed from a domestic implement used to beat dried mud out of clothes without damaging the fabric.
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Feb 26, 2019#235
Have you ever seen a video like that one? Incroyable. ????
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Feb 26, 2019#236
There has recently been some discussion of birching over in the St Mary’s School, Preston. thread, commencing with post #27. It is possible that there may have been some confusion about the various types of birch. So for clarification and the avoidance of doubt some notes, for which this thread seems an appropriate location. The birch was almost invariably applied on a portion of the anatomy bared for the purpose, often the buttocks, and so: Warning! Links may contain nudity.
Spray birch: As used domestically and scholastically, mainly on girls though also on young boys. Recipients were often despatched to the garden to collect and assemble the twiggy lengths of foliage themselves prior to punishment. Also allegedly deployed by old style female Krampuses when chastising naughty males taken into captivity for their sins. Confirmation of this is however lacking. ???? Also see ‘Modern rattan birch’ below.
Conventional Birch: Lengths of more or less straight thin flexible branches with side shoots removed but retaining the remains of these together with rough bark and buds to enhance the punitive effect. Bundled together in number and length to provide a weight and size of implement suited to the degree of punishment intended and often bound together with cord or similar to provide a handle and keep the striking ends aligned.
Used mainly for the punishment of older scholars in schools, for punishments in institutions and reformatories, real or fictional, such as in this cartoon and the more modern depiction here from a NuWest production. This type of birch was often used for judicial punishments in the UK, as with the birching table and birch shown here.
Isle of Man Birch: Used for a period for judicial birchings on the Isle of Man this variant of the conventional birch consisted of a few more substantial lengths of flexible branch otherwise prepared as above. Seen here being displayed by one of the police officers responsible for its administration it had a formidable reputation and few recipients are said to have returned for a second dose.
Modern rattan birch: Consisting of thin lengths of flexible rattan, usually bound together to provide a handle and maintain alignment, these lack the scratching and grazing punitive effects of natural birches but unlike natural birches they do not shed bits of twig everywhere and do not require frequent replacement to maintain flexibility. Much favoured in ‘adult’ CP productions as in the video here. These implements are apparently favoured by 21st century female Krampuses when dealing with naughty captive males. Or at least so it is alleged in posts made by the user of the avatar picture here. Ouch! ????
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Feb 26, 2019#237
i apologize, i was incorrect in my post about my opinion of the effectiveness of birches… i was thinking about a conventional birch not a spray birch… though the two do seem to blur together a bit
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Feb 26, 2019#238
Hello dane,
Thank you for your comment. The apology was unnecessary.
Seldom if ever in the history of this estimable Forum have so many words been expended to defend such a trivial point. But that’s Another_Lurker for you, ludicrously pedantic I fear! ????
And you are of course absolutely correct that the distinction between a spray birch and a traditional birch is rather blurred. However if faced with the same number of strokes from one or the other and given a choice I’d opt for the spray birch. I think I could learn to live with any embarrassment at it being a girlie implement such as that which afflicted the German boy instanced by hcj here.
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Mar 20, 2019#239
1929 A.D. how to wallop gently misbehaving school children. Bottom right hand corner.
http://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/hi … Page=false
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May 04, 2019#240
A garden hose is often mentioned as an instrument of correction. It leaves quite a sting behind without as much markings on the behind. Even the littlest girl was not spared Professor Lille’s ministrations. The fact that a story like this would make the news in 1902 must have come as a surprise.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 82%2C4377/
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May 04, 2019#241
Stories that appear in newspapers closer to the incident are often more credible. Waterbury and Manchester are just 40 miles apart. The boys and girls could have been spanked with an ordinary ruler.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 19%2C8173/
Group spankings may not have been all that infrequent as in this mock spanking of questionable date.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/ … ge-169.jpg
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May 04, 2019#242
Prior posted of an “elaboration” of the Manchester CN incident from a comical perspective.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/be856e47b03 … 1_1280.jpg
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May 05, 2019#243
The switch. Historic California School. The age appropriate fascination and curiosity with corporal punishment is exemplified by so many wanting to volunteer for what I am sure they know will be a mock whipping.
https://scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.co … tagram.com
https://www.pictame.com/media/148502991 … _599751148
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May 17, 2019#244
I think the proximity objects in domestic settings may be more a factor than one might initially believe in instruments of correction. People don’t have paddles and canes hanging around the house. A worn out belt might not be discarded but saved just for spankings.
Barrel staves and shingles were turned into instruments of corrections. Hairbrushes were used by both genders but more often than not by women. Men used razor strops. Elementary school principals were always men and in my era used a strap on the buttocks. Geographically that was in the northeast. Instruments varied perhaps more than one might expect.
Sometimes your choice is opportunistic as in this iconic scene.
https://spankstatement.files.wordpress. … 337&zoom=2
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May 17, 2019#245
I wonder how many people would have one of THESE in the house and was the school paddle developed from it?
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May 18, 2019#246
Hello AliceOttley,
I thought everybody had one of those. I keep mine in a cupboard together with my brush and dustpan and my broom. ????
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May 18, 2019#247
Hi – Wow that carpet beater would have covered the whole backside,glad we did,nt have one at home,dads tannings with the plimsoll were bad enough
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May 18, 2019#248
They (carpet beaters) have been around a long time. Less likely to be used in the UK.
Manchester. Spankathon.
http://i1.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/i … 121780.jpg
Denmark. Never has a spanking turns to a kiss so quickly.
Hungary. Game show. Here is an actual disciplinary spanking albeit on stage.
https://spankstatement.wordpress.com/20 … game-show/
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May 18, 2019#249
This Balazs Hungarian show clip is my favorite. She gets a real spanking and seems on the verge of tears.
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May 18, 2019#250
Direct Link to #248 on Hungarian show without an intermediary dicey site.
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May 19, 2019#251
I enjoyed the clip using the carpet beater. Some years ago I visited a man who had two scenarios – the first was headmaster/ schoolgirl and the secong was master of the house/maid.
The ‘headmaster’ had the usual cane, slipper, tawse but the ‘master of the house’ had items such as kitchen wooden spoon, leather belt and a carper beater as shown in the clip.
I think that is the only time I’ve ever seen one – and NO I don’t know what it feels like!
(I don’t have a maid’s uniform ????)
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May 20, 2019#252
These living school history museum in San Diego invites their patrons to take an active role. I don’t think the paddle looked like that in 1883 in the link below. I know the teacher did not. ???? That paddle the attractive young tourists toying may well have been used much after 1883.
This picture is not unfamiliar to A_L but don’t say I didn’t warn him.
https://lviewer.com/ru/essence_florie/4 … _189000420
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Jun 07, 2019#253
The hairbrush spanked more bottoms than brushed hairs it would seem then came the loss of the innocence. 1937.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 21%2C5655/
It is still a fearsome weapon when used on naughty teens where it would cause the least damage and perhaps at times do some good. 1947.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/7ae78b11efc … 2_1280.jpg
https://66.media.tumblr.com/140ef2eb005 … 1_1280.jpg
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Jun 10, 2019#254
Not sure what is going on . Probably tourists playing with ancient discipline equipment. Paddle possibly also used in a deep pizza oven or as an oar on a junk when not being used for correction.
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Jun 10, 2019#255
Korean Folk Villages are tourists attractions. They invite the visitors to pretend that are on the receiving end of judicial corporal punishment.
Some wimp out.
Others take it like a champ.
https://deesaic.files.wordpress.com/201 … cn0983.jpg
https://i2.wp.com/www.thetummytraveler. … =607%2C455
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hcj44
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Jun 10, 2019#256
Oh yes, a scene from South Korea. The equipment is ancient but authentic.
Ch CP.PNG (505.93KiB)
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Jun 11, 2019#257
Upper left hand corner. Context Menu disabled. Click image to get better view.
http://arthole.kr/index.php/nggallery/page/4?page_id=89
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Jun 12, 2019#258
Thanks for all that input American Way
It is always surprising what people will “volunteer” for . I think this vid (I think its from a bar in Kiev ) is indicative. The guy is quite enthusiastic about his job. Perhaps he should apply for a position at the Heart Attack Grill.
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Jun 28, 2019#259
Instruments of correction from an adult toy perspective ergo caveat.
The criteria: technicality, noise and marks.
https://deculottees.fr/2017/07/les-inst … ne-fessee/
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Jun 29, 2019#260
The dreaded paddle was the instrument of correction but made for an over the knee spanking.
These offenders would fine tittle sympathy in court. By anecdote fraternity and sorority houses applied corporal punishment for the breaking of codes of conduct as well as well as moral turpitude even today if these accounts are to be believed.
1896 Justice.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/8140db50225 … 1_1280.jpg
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Aug 04, 2019#261
A three month bride (former Miss Dick) had a unique way of administering corporal punishment to 12 year old boys and girls in 1922. There is a precise description of her instrument of correction (torture) that would have attracted a certain former poster that prided herself in her paddle inspection as a new hire. A_L have no fear. There were no blood stains on her paddle. ????
http://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/hi … Page=false
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Aug 04, 2019#262
The young lady school teacher and her paddle attracted quite a gathering. They gazed upon the famous paddle to shudder or laugh and to see the slender but beaming and bright eye young lady.
Maybe if she volunteered to be spanked three times face down and bottom up there would be even more than 100 onlookers. Not much goes on in that town.
http://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/hi … Page=false
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Aug 04, 2019#263
Hello American Way,
Young Mrs Marion D Emerick and the paddle with which she belaboured the bottoms of naughty children in her 6th grade class certainly seem to have preoccupied the good citizens of Rhinebeck NY both at home and abroad in early 1922. Several mentions and discussions on the front page of the Saturday, 4th March edition of the Rhinebeck Gazette that you link above, plus confirmation that Mrs Emerick and her paddle had featured in the previous Saturday’s edition. I’ll bet she also made it into the 11 March edition and possibly beyond!
As you are aware I am very partial to strict young schoolmarms and I scanned the page you linked eagerly in the hope that there would be a photograph, or at least a drawing, of Mrs Emerick and her paddle, but sadly neither were to be found. I feel both deprived and distraught! Should you chance upon such an image in the course of your researches I do so hope you will link it for me.
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Aug 05, 2019#264
Sorry, A_L, she didn’t leave much of a cyber footprint except for a marriage record corresponding to date and place.
Did she call him Dick? ????
Richard J. Emerick and Marion F. Dick
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Aug 05, 2019#265
The bride was gowned in a traveling suit and wore a corsage bouquet of white roses and looked very charming.
Third column near the bottom.
http://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/hi … Page=false
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Aug 10, 2019#266
Sorry to bring back such painful memories. There is no video to assist southern schools how to paddle. Renee, et, al., were challenge by Paula Flowe to find one college that prepared students to administer corporal punishment. The never replied. Paula made a good point. If faculty members felt it was good for schools they would have taught them how to use it. There was a school official mentioned here that supposedly created a video that never came to light.
Cold caning would be like cold paddling. You have no warm up.
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Aug 19, 2019#267
Coat hangers demonstrate the utility of almost any object as an instrument of correction. In the USA for the smaller children it was the wooden spoon until beyond the age of reason it was the dreaded hairbrush. The coat hanger was highly unusual. The U.K. seem to have more a fondness of the slipper both at home and at school. Joan Crawford got a bad rapt.
https://www.moviefone.com/2016/09/17/mo … est-facts/
The real Mommy Dearest.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/iiif … efault.jpg
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Sep 06, 2019#268
Heinz had 57 varieties in 1892 but California had 58 kinds of sticks to punish their pupils in 1893.
https://www.coloradohistoricnewspapers. … ——-0–
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Whi is Corporal Punishment so common in the UK?
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Oct 03, 2019#270
Hello Lion1020.
The above appears to be your first contribution here so may I please say a personal welcome to the Forum.
Lion1020 wrote:
Whi is Corporal Punishment so common in the UK?
Actually proper corporal punishment is not common in the UK. It is effectively non-existent.
School Corporal Punishment (SCP) in the UK has been banned by law for many years and Judicial Corporal Punishment (JCP), corporal punishment as a punishment for crimes or for offences in prisons, has been banned by law for even longer.
It is still legal for parents or guardians in the UK to spank naughty children, but only if they do it very moderately so as not to leave any marks at all.. Scotland (part of the UK) has passed legislation today which will make it illegal to spank children at all from next year. Very few parents still spank children anyway and the rest of the UK will probably follow Scotland over the next year or two.
There is some recreation corporal punishment in the UK, where adult participants take part of their own free will. One variant of this is pretend schools where adult men and women pretend to be naughty schoolboys in short trousers or naughty schoolgirls in gym slips, and are caned or otherwise punished, often on the bare bottom, by other adults pretending to be school teachers. Many other variants of recreational corporal punishment exist. Curiously those who are punished often have to pay those who do the punishing.
There is also a certain amount of commercial video production and web authoring for the adult corporal punishment market. Recent legislation designed to limit and control this came into the law a year or two ago and there is agitation to increase its scope.
Possibly you have the impression that corporal punishment is common in the UK because a relatively high proportion of people contributing to this group are from the UK. The group, which was started back in 2002, has always had a high proportion of UK contributors and I believe that the current owner and controller of the group is a UK resident. However despite the fact that there are not as many participants as there once were the group has an international membership, though mainly from English speaking countries.
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Oct 04, 2019#271
Why is it known as the English Vice?
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Oct 05, 2019#272
Hello American Way,
In your contribution #271 above I presume that the ‘it’ whose identification as ‘the English vice’ you query is corporal punishment, as featured in Lion1020’s query and my reply thereto on the previous page of the thread.
As I am sure you are aware the phrase ‘the English vice’ is a translation of the French expression ‘le vice Anglais’. Surprisingly (at least to me) this is now apparently used by the French to imply criticism of any English habits they decry. On December 26 2011 The Times newspaper quoted a case some years earlier where the phrase was used in a French publication on the history of vitamins in connection with the alleged English habit of overcooking vegetables so that the vitamin content was destroyed.
Le vice Anglais is however usually taken to refer to the alleged English fondness for flagellation and related perversions and Mario Praz KBE, art and literature critic and English literature scholar used it in this context in his 1930 book ‘The Romantic Agony’ in which an appendix was entitled “Swinburne and ‘Le Vice Anglais'”.
The life of Algernon Charles Swinburne, 1837 to 1909, poet, playwright, novelist and critic, encompassed the reign of Queen Victoria, 1837 to 1901. In the Victorian era Britain ruled the waves and an empire on which the sun never set encompassing half the globe; the other half doffed its cap to Britain when they met.
But under a veneer of extreme respectability and repression, covers on the legs of furniture etc., substantial numbers of the great and the good of Britain’s cultural, government and other elites, including Swinburne, were into flagellation and related activities. Being in receipt of them, administering them, watching them, writing about them, reading about them and sometimes all of those, hence Le vice Anglais.
Flagellant literature and poetry, usually published anonymously or under an assumed name, flourished and was the subject of much speculation as to actual authorship. To be one of those named in such speculation was more of a badge of honour rather than a cause of disgrace.
In all the major cities there were well known establishments operated by discreet ladies, some of them famous throughout the empire, where men of sufficient means could be stripped, secured on ingenious apparatus of various shapes and sizes and birched , whipped, thrashed with stinging nettles or a host of other delights. If a man chose to subject his children or even his younger servants to corporal punishment, preferably deserved, but who was to judge, no one would gainsay him.
You couldn’t really blame the poor fellows for their flagellatory tendencies. Birched on the bare by their governesses at home when young, and by the masters at the great public schools of England when a little older, and seeing their contemporaries so dealt with, they were hooked from the start.
Now of course all that is behind us Brits. No gunboats to intimidate and quell dissent. No Empire, no birching, no flagellatory impulses possessing the great and the good. All gone for ever .
Or have they? When interviewed ladies providing certain specialised services usually aver that their clientele are not the downtrodden poor and dispossessed, but rather life’s victors, accustomed to control, command and win in boardroom, court room, political arena and similar environments.
As we all know only too well controlling, commanding and winning can be a little stressful. Allegedly some of the best exponents thereof find that being stripped, chained up and thrashed or subjected to other indignities not only relieves that stress but is jolly good fun as well.
Whether that latter sentence is actually true I have no idea. One thing I am sure of though. With the prices those ladies apparently charge for their services their clientele certainly isn’t on the national minimum wage! So who knows, possibly Le Vice Anglais survives and there’s hope for the old country yet! ????
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Oct 24, 2019#273
This 1928 article gives a precise description of a “borstal style” strap seems like a formidable instrument of correction. The names Whipp and Lashly are delightfully coincidental but not X amusing congratulatory handshake given to the diminutive colored lad on how he took his twenty licks in contrast to the the bigger white juvenile deliquents.
https://idnc.library.illinois.edu/?a=d& … rls——-
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Oct 25, 2019#274
The cat-o-nine-tails was not a common instrument of correction in the USA. It was rather severe and so perhaps rarely mentioned with the exception of judicial punishment of flogging in Canada and oft-mentioned in the Royal Navy.
Here is a case a year before it was referenced in a 1921 New York City newspaper.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 52%2C6281/
Corpun file 25390.
https://www.corpun.com/ppimages/25390axm.jpg
Court ordered in Canada 1922 as relayed in a satiric New York City tabloid.
https://fultonhistory.com/Newspaper%202 … e%2015.pdf
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Oct 25, 2019#275
Through the years there has been as much thought has been given to whether moral suasion can substitute for corporal punishment as in how to administer corporal punishment. In a scholastic setting the palm of the hand has not proven severe enough and instruments have varied from the hickory stick or paddle here and the birch in the UK.
According to this 1904 author there is an art to spanking. The rubber hose has been mention as a popular instrument over a century ago.
https://www.coloradohistoricnewspapers. … ——-0–
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Oct 26, 2019#276
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Oct 31, 2019#277
Don’t be tardy or you get the stick.
1901 Steamboat, Colorado
https://www.coloradohistoricnewspapers. … ——-0–
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Nov 17, 2019#278
The weapon of pedagogues of Scotland is too fearsome to be brought across the sea.
The Canadians did use a strap on the palm of ignorant and insolent pupils of both genders until relately recently. The preference for that instrument of correction in favor of the paddle must be for a variety of reasons that those more conversant in the matter might worth sharing.
October 7, 1910
Under Black Eyes For Teachers.
A_L dream is a school-marm that indulges larger boys with mild flirtations.
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3 … 3798679/5/
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Nov 18, 2019#279
Hello American Way,
More Welsh newspaper stuff I see!
you wrote:
A_L dream is a school-marm that indulges larger boys with mild flirtations.
Yes please! ???? But not wielding a Scottish tawse! ???? An adherent of the cane with a preference for bent over punitive postures with or without a single layer or less requirement scaled to degree of naughtiness please!
The delicate and aristocratic Another_Lurker hands are unaccustomed to hard labour and would be martyrs to the tawse whereas the Another_Lurker, ahem, ‘person’ is well hardened by years spent seated at computers!
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Dec 03, 2019#280
Lath as a 1949 Ontario court ordered instrument of correction seems unusual. I am surprised it wasn’t a strap. Christian schools have been known to exchange up to ten swats for twenty five dollar fines to pay supervised suspensions.
Employees may prefer $25 than a student would $2.50 per swat for a Christian school ten swats. I am sure the one with the wallet has the final say and not the student when it comes to corporal chastisement.
I have visited and enjoyed that quintessential Quebec provincial city where the newspaper was published and unlike Montreal your English won’t get you far.
Scroll over a page to find the article by Lewis Milligan I am referencing.
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid= … 1018&hl=en
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dmp
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Dec 03, 2019#281
i started reading it, but it was just such pompous drivel i didn’t make it to the end.
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Dec 04, 2019#282
Perhaps the most interesting detail in the Lewis Milligan opinion piece is the reference by the judge to a lath as the implement to be used.
[A lath is a thin, narrow strip of straight-grained wood used under roof shingles or tiles, on lath and plaster walls and ceilings to hold plaster, and in lattice and trellis work. Wikipedia]
“The news” is replete with material such as this. Writers need to write regularly if they are to earn a living regardless of whether they have anything to say. Newspapers need to find copy to fill the spaces between the advertisements. They keep on hand gap fillers in case real news copy is lacking.
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Dec 27, 2019#283
To this broad and varied discussion, I perhaps feel I should contribute my encounter with a most unusual British implement of correction.
Now, I am of an age that when CP was still legal, I was in the tender mercies of a school which ran “non-competitive sports days”, and whose headmistress would utter, in relation to the possibility of some of the pupils trying for the Grammar School in the nearby town “All my children are equal”, so there was no chance of my being subject to any such thing courtesy of the education system.
We had also then moved to the Midlands where the comprehensivisation programme has led to the creation of three levels of schooling, as opposed to the Primary/Secondary divide I had previously been accustomed to.
The High School I attended traced it’s foundation back the time of the first Queen Elizabeth, through one of it’s constituent schools from which it was formed, being the town’s boys Grammar School. The other schools were another Elizabethan Grammar School from a nearby village, and the Girls’ Grammar School, on which site the new High School was established, under the name of the old boys school (think of a king who, as the old grammar exercise put it “walked and talked half an hour after his was cut off”).
This school had initially met in the old Chantry chapel of the parish church, before moving to more specialised premises in the 1850’s or so. This building, which because vacant when the merged school was established, became the town’s Registry Office. One day, they had cause to open a cupboard, where they found a number of papers and boxes pertaining to the old Grammar School.
These were duly despatched to our school, where they were passed into the care of the school librarian. The box turned out to contain the object of this tale:
Around 4″-6″ wide, appropriately 6″-8″ long, and about 1″ thick, made of pieces of leather stitched together, divided, as I recall into three fingers of about 3″, the whole secured in place to a metal holder either riveted or screwed to the leather, securing a dark wooden handle, and with the name of a former Victorian Headmaster embossed near the handle end.
I never saw it again after that day, so the above is solely from my memory, but frankly, it can only be described as a rather formidable leather paddle. It never occurred to me to look at any of the paperwork that came with it – perhaps one of the items may have been a punishment book recording the use of this terrifying implement, which once seen is not forgotten.
David
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During the day when it was lying about, it was waved at a pupil with a “if you don’t return your books, I’ll be coming after you” from the kindly librarian at someone with some overdue books. In another moment formative in the Adams psyche, the young lady looked at it, turned round and bent forward sticking her bottom out. Whether she actually said “go on then” before turning back round may be the product of my fevered imagination.
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Dec 28, 2019#284
Hello DJAdams,
A most interesting account, thank you. With your headmistress inclined to a non-competitive regime I assume you missed out on the smacked leg at primary school, one of life’s great formative experiences! ???? I am surprised though that with so many ancient and venerable institutions coming together in your Grammar School SCP had not survived there from one or other of the original foundations. Possibly a situation dictated by the fact that it was co-ed.
A fascinating description of the mystery punitive implement. I confess though that I have difficulty in visualising the thing, especially with regard to the 1 inch thickness, which seems rather excessive, and the very short fingers, which at 3 inches long sound rather pointless. They certainly wouldn’t have any of the separating to aid rapid passage through the air and adapting to the contours of the target area flexibility which makes the fingers of a Scottish tawse so deadly.
Any chance of an annotated sketch please? Although there are disadvantages to the Tapatalk picture upload and display facility which now cause me to mainly use other facilities it is easy to use. You could photograph the sketch with your phone and upload it. If you need any help just say and I’l walk you through the process.
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Thank you Another_lurker[\b] for your response.
You are correct in inferring that my primary school would have had no truck with smacking legs (or elsewhere), but my mother had a good aim and the relevant stinging sensation was one I did experience at home.
By the time I reached my high school, SCP was no longer legal, but I understand from a throwaway remark from a longer serving teacher that it had remained in use until at least towards abolition*.
I attach a rough sketch of the object to aid with the comprehension. I’ll be honest, I’ve seen nothing like it before or since.
With regard to the thickness of the thing, my first response when I saw it was to be amazed at how thick it was. It would, I am sure, have packed a punch.
I really couldn’t comment on how it was used, whether in addition to the cane or as the sole option, as a tool of last resort or a daily experience for a mid/late Victorian schoolboy.
David
*It was while I was doing A-levels, and my Chemistry teacher was also head of the science department, and so whole have the more recalcitrant pupils referred to him. On this particular occasion a girl was taking up to much of his attention and not being cooperative even at this level of escalation, so he was having to constantly go in and out. He turned to us as he left yet again, apologised, and remarked that he would much rather be teaching us, and that “few years ago, I whole have just sent her to the Deputy Headmistress for the cane”.
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Dec 28, 2019#286
Thank you DJAdams, a splendid illustration and so very speedily produced.
I don’t recall seeing anything like it, but some of our contributors are far more experienced in such matters than I am. I take it from your mention of “a tool of last resort or a daily experience for a mid/late Victorian schoolboy” that for the Headmaster whose name appeared on the implement we are talking dates of tenure around the early 1850s to the end of the 19th century.
In the early part of that period of course the birch rather than the cane might well have been a tool of the schoolmaster’s trade. I wonder though if your mystery implement was targeted at hands rather than bottoms. If so with that thickness it might well have delivered a formidable whack. It certainly makes the notorious ROSLA tawses look positively skinny!
Tough luck about the abolition of SCP by the time you arrived at High School. Some of us were there and some of us weren’t. Of course some of us who were there got off very lightly and have wondered what the more severe manifestations of SCP might have been like ever since. ????
A pity, but when your Chemistry Master made the comment about sending girls to be caned by the Deputy Headmistress in the past it probably wouldn’t have been wise to ask “Hand or bottom, Sir?”. ????
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Here is something that may be useful for those on both sides of the pond. Paddles vary here by age of the pupil and while the same number of swats are given for a particular offense however the instrument is wielded with force in proportion of the flagrancy, size and gender and perhaps other factors. I would imagine if is easier to modulate when the target is the bottom and not the hands.
A ROSLA tawse is sometimes made up of two medium or heavy tawses stuck or sewed together to produce a very stiff heavy one with a really fearsome bite. It was invented in scotland when the school raising age was raised to sixteen and the education department felt they needed heavier tawses for the older pupils.. The rosla comes from initials of the words raising of school leaving age.
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I would very much hope that this implement was never used on the hands. While I wouldn’t want to estimate its weight at this remove, it was a substantial object and surely would not have been safe on the hands.
And no, I was not going to ask how they girl would have been caned.
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Jan 11, 2020#289
When it comes to spanking incorrigible girls there a lot of instruments of correction to choose from. For a measly $1,000 per year no man would take this job.
https://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/h … Page=false
Those young miscreants met their match. She was not the hired spanker outsourced to reform these young moral menaces. The theory is that by hiring someone from the outside it would lead to less hard feelings between the incorrigibles and their carekeepers.
Snippet.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/imgsrv … rotation=0
Dora sounds like one of Renee of TWP young apologists. They always come back and kiss the hand that spanked them.
Snippet.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/imgsrv … rotation=0
Source.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id= … =1up&seq=5
One spanker had to deal with a whole school of incorrigibles. No wonder Mrs George Hirst, the official spanker was all worn out. And all for woman’s pay, Your heart has to go out to her.
It is a very one-sided pro-inmate site so take it with a grain of salt. The caretakers have all passed and are not here to defend themselves.
https://incorrigibles.org
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Jan 11, 2020#290
Hello DJAdams,
My suggestion that your mystery implement might have been deployed on hands was based on your estimate of the length of the business end. You put this at 6 to 8 inches which I thought was perhaps a little short for effective use on the buttocks.
However on reflection the device had a handle, so its available ‘punitive contact length’ would really be no different to a gym shoe (slipper) gripped by the heel. The latter could be very effective indeed. Some contributors here have regarded them as worse than the cane.
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Jan 12, 2020#291
The Australian spanking machine used the cane as the instrument of correction. The story is right underneath the picture of the player.
https://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/h … Page=false
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Jan 16, 2020#292
In areas where Canada and USA were adjoining Canada strapped the hands and the USA paddled the bottom as recently as a quarter of a century ago. In Britain and Scotland there was the birch and the tawse in 1869. Why do the Brits and Scots use different instruments of correction? Why does the USA use different ones? Does the target have anything todo with it?
Bottom of the first column.
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3 … 056878/40/
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Jan 24, 2020#293
Illinois Humane Society unanimously recommend the rubber hose in 1909.
Women did not have the right to vote in 1909 but that rule didn’t apply here when it came to approving this castigatory tool over other instruments of correction used for the benefit of schoolboys. Ella should not impose a burden upon boys that she herself had likely never experienced before she casts her vote and casts herself as a humanitarian.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 02%2C7297/
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Feb 02, 2020#294
In the days of yore the birch was to England as was the martinet to the France. But out French the French as this little devil did in 1923.
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Feb 05, 2020#295
An informative guide to instruments of correction as applied to the hands and bottoms of the fairer sex.
https://archive.org/details/TheFemaleDi … 3/mode/2up
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Feb 05, 2020#296
Hello American Way,
Tut tut, have a care! If you link stuff like that you’ll set dane off again with his ‘porn put out by the weird nazi lesbian cult with the blondes and brunettes that was fronted by that marianne martindale crazy’ rant. Not to mention that Another_Lurker fellow with his female domination fantasies! ????
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i would just like to say i have no problem with consenting adults joining fascist spanking cults of whatever sexual inclination they are inclined… though it does seem that MM had some issues with consent, since she was convicted of assault for actions taken at one of her sessions.
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Feb 07, 2020#298
Hello dane,
Oh dear, I owe you an apology! I fear the Another_Lurker memory is becoming less reliable than it was, and it was always far from perfect. Miss Martindale does allegedly seem to have had an association with extreme right wing politics and other matters even less desirable. Further she does appear to have been convicted of assault for caning an attendee at her school sessions. The associations and conviction are linked to a location in Ireland, outwith the UK, and I say allegedly because Miss Martindale and her associates sometimes change the names they use which leads to some confusion.
However, the evidence and relevant links are all here in the Forum entered by, errm, well largely by me, back in 2011.
As your original reservations concerning Miss Martindale during the current discussion were expressed in your contribution here and my initial rebuttal of them was in the same thread I have put details of the dark side of Aristasia in that thread in this post rather than here. I hope you will find that acceptable.
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Feb 08, 2020#299
90 years ago the frequency of the use of the instruments of correction in reformatories is surprising. Who would here would think it would be a hose?
Not surprisingly the number of strokes for girls were less than boys. Different strokes for different folks.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 03%2C7554/
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Feb 13, 2020#300
Students wear their marks as a badge of honor after their paddled or as means of gaining sympathy. The value of a troublesome slave became a problem at the slave auction. A lash mark lowered the profit. A paddle swat left a less tale telling mark as in the alleged paddling of Renee on Nashia. The rubber hose even left less of a mark on ebony skin when wielded by “colored” teachers twenty years after they were taken off the market.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 79%2C6851/
Lake Butler Florida’s Kortney Jenkins found a willing ear from her Mom because of marks left behind with no pun intended.
https://schoolswats.files.wordpress.com … ayygxj.jpg
Just to add credibility the year (2013) Kortney was paddled 13.2% of the girls were spanked and almost a third of the boys.
https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=525 … 7&pid=2072
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Unread postFeb 13, 2020#301
Two years later in 2015 Kyrsten Jenkins was mentioned. They went to the same school where there were 80 instances of corporal punishment.
Previously proffered.
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In praise of the hose or as they say up your nose with a rubber hose. It seem popular until the paddle became the rage. Why? Nobody knows.
1915
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=HE19151211. … er——-1
Still another mother complains about a teacher’s disciplining her unruly boy. Where are the fathers?
1910
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=SU19101021. … er——-1
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=CR19101025. … er——-1
The the teacher was given a spanking. I am sure he would do it again for a $5.00 fine.
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=CR19101023. … er——-1
This poor girl was caught between two eras when rubber gave way to wood.
1927 Rubber vs Wood
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=CJ19270322. … er——-1
2020 Plexiglass vs Wood
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Unread postMar 04, 2020#303
Professor Dennis would little know how the Brits would take such an interest in his invention in 1911.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti … s+birching
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Poetic justice. Upper right hand corner.
https://fultonhistory.com/Newpapers%20D … ehtml&.pdf
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Unread postMar 12, 2020#305
This one from the above posting involved less navigating.
1919
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 13%2C7844/
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Unread postMar 23, 2020#306
There are all kinds of instruments of correction for different purposes. One of them is called the leather quirt. Given the penultimate link it was used on the portion of the body some say God created for many purposes including that one used to teach that girl a well deserved rawhiding.
A school quirt would probably a leather strap with tails appropriate for punishment of the hands.
1896
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 74%2C6952/
Bottom of the fourth paragraph first column.
1931
http://digital.olivesoftware.com/olive/ … l=document
What is a quirt and its normal purpose?
1878
https://idnc.library.illinois.edu/?a=d& … ther+quirt+——–
1891
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=SFC18911013 … t+——-1
1935
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=MT19350629. … t+——-1
When you horsewhip someone you are using the kind of quirt inappropriate school use.
1908
https://www.coloradohistoricnewspapers. … ——-0–
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Unread postMar 30, 2020#307
The instrument of correction was a matter of taste and I am sure a choice of target.
The the ferule for the girls and the cowhide for the boys in 1851. Hundred years later it was the ruler for the girls and the stick for the boys with the nuns.
1851 in olden day schooling was not very pleasant.
https://cambridge.dlconsulting.com/?a=d … xIN-Ferule+——
1887 a matter of taste.
https://cambridge.dlconsulting.com/?a=d … irls——
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Hello American Way / HFP
Thanks once again for your amazing research. The articles from the Cambridge Chronicle are most impressive. I find the writing enjoyable and superior to that of the present day.
I note your statement that “1851 in olden day schooling was not very pleasant. ” The first teacher was a true tyrant – I cannot disagree that threatening to put small children in a stove and burning at least one of them severely was “not very pleasant”. However it does say that the writer is an “old scholar” so it refers to some years before 1851. The other teachers seemed reasonable, despite one thinking it necessary to flog the boys severely because “it had been so long customary”.
I would point out that over a century later there were a small minority of teachers who displayed not dissimilar levels of cruelty, mainly against very young children. Such punishments as holding small boys upside down outside second floor windows.
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Unread postMar 30, 2020#309
Cruel and hopefully unusual was an incident where the police were searching for a missing second grader only to find him locked up in the closet. The police asked the bus driver to see if he were the last to see him before they searched the school Saturday morning. The poor fellow was apologizing for soiling his pants.
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Unread postApr 01, 2020#310
This well respected Catholic pedagogue was a strong advocate of a ferula and a small pliant strap. He did not speak highly of those deprived of the benefits of corporal punishment.
1949
https://thecatholicnewsarchive.org/imag … etpdf=true
Although a bachelor he had the paternal solicitude when it came to sparing the students from the dangerous use of the barbaric cane.
https://thecatholicnewsarchive.org/imag … etpdf=true
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Unread postApr 01, 2020#311
This perhaps provides better access to my last post.
https://thecatholicnewsarchive.org/crra … s+educator
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Unread postApr 24, 2020#312
Were any of those canes sold by Eric Wildman used on schoolgirl’s bottoms in any school or was it all a publicity stunt? Is there any way anyone would ever know?
Here is a close up of an array of instruments of correction in his arsenal he was flogging.
https://flashbak.com/wp-content/uploads … 00×879.jpg
60th Anniversary.
Schoolboy Strikes To Avoid The Cane From Mr Bottoms – 1960
https://flashbak.com/schoolboy-strikes- … 60-423327/
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Unread postApr 25, 2020#313
Hello American Way,
Hmm, so you missed that Flash Bak link posted by JamieMurphy the first time round too! ????
You asked above:
Were any of those canes sold by Eric Wildman used on schoolgirl’s bottoms in any school or was it all a publicity stunt? Is there any way anyone would ever know?
I am absolutely certain that canes supplied by Eric Wildman would have been used on the bottoms of schoolgirls (if in doubt always circumvent those tricky apostrophe s or s apostrophe issues ) in a school somewhere. Just as if I’d ever plucked up the courage to attend, a cane from a probably very similar supply source would have been used on the bottom of schoolboy Another_Lurker in a school like this!
Ah, you didn’t mean that sort of ‘pupil’ and that sort of ‘school’? You really should have said! Well now I’m not sure. I remember a small newsagent in Manchester I think it was, who was supplying canes to lots of schools and Education Authorities. Quite a scandal when that came out, what with the naughty magazines on the top shelves an’ all. But whether Eric Wildman had any legit school customers I can’t recall. I would think he almost certainly did.
Eric Wildman certainly wrote lots of pamphlets and booklets on how to cane girls of all sorts. Daughters, schoolgirls, naughty girls in reformatories and prisons. You name a situation in which a girl might find herself and he probably wrote something about how she should be caned in it. Two such booklets, ‘Punishment Posture for Girls’ and ‘Modern Miss Delinquent’ were reputedly held in the ‘Suppressed Safe’ of the British Library, where nobody was allowed to read them, until about 10 years ago when they were supposedly transferred to the ‘Private Case’ together with some other Wildman publications, where bona fide academics might be allowed to view them if they could prove a genuine research need.
When I first became concerned about future social collapse, extremist dystopian regimes and the return of public JCP I contemplated applying to the British Library to view the above two books. I wanted to get an idea of what dreadful ordeal I might have to watch young ladies undergoing while I waited in chains and one of those exiguous nether garments favoured by body builders for my own turn on the podium. I was also going to ask if perchance Wildman had written’ Punishment Postures for OAPs’ and ‘Rather Old Fashioned Elderly Delinquent’. But I thought better of it!
Seriously, lots and lots on Wildman to be found here in this Forum and in the Wildman Timeline here on the excellent Corpun.Com site.
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Unread postApr 25, 2020#314
EAL,
Your “school” really wont do!
No “adult content may offend some people” warning
Unstable high-heeled shoes
No face guard
No witness of the same gender
???
Some body Somebody could easily be hurt.
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Unread postApr 25, 2020#315
Hello KK,
Naturally I am mindful of all criticism expressed on the extremely rare occasions that people take issue with my posts here.
[Waits a few minutes, finding that lightning does not strike, despite risk of incurring COVID-19 tests that nose is still the familiar profile and, reassured, continues]
However, when criticism is received from a source of such unvarying seriousness and impeccable authoritative knowledge as yourself I take it extremely seriously.
[Ditto lightning and nose as above, reflects that well at least the second bit bit was true, and continues]
I shall take each of your points individually:
1. No “adult content may offend some people” warning
You are absolutely correct. A mistaken and serious omission.
2. Unstable high-heeled shoes
On the contrary, the shoes worn by the unfortunate ‘schoolboy’ appear to me to be of the normal school shoe type with relatively low and quite stable heels. Not that the stability of his heels, or indeed his shoes generally is of any great significance in that posture, though I suppose that might change if, as I believe is required in one of the routines for serious offences, the trousers have to be removed completely before bending over. That usually entails a certain amount of standing on one foot and clearly stable shoes would be required.
3. No face guard
Trust me, if I’d ever found myself bent over in that posture and that state of undress with a lady wielding a cane in the vicinity it wouldn’t have been a face guard I’d have been craving!
4. No witness of the same gender
Possibly a misunderstanding on your part I think. If I had ever attended such a ‘school’ I would of course have opted for a ‘mixed’ class, so the desks in the classroom, portions of the front row of which can just be glimpsed in the photograph, would have been occupied by ‘pupils’ of both genders – allegedly. Hopefully neither myself nor the ‘lady teacher’ would have lacked same sex witnesses. For aught we know the ‘schoolboy’ and ‘lady teacher’ in the picture I linked may well have been in the same situation, and anyway we do not know the gender of the photographer.
5. ???
I am in full and unreserved agreement with you. Guilty as charged.
Some body Somebody could easily be hurt.
Absolutely! Both are of course correct and I believe that is why that MO was adopted to punish schoolchildren.
In view of my error in your cases 1 and 5 I shall of course seek correction for my failure, especially as I recently referred our fellow contributor American Way for the former. I shall make an immediate appointment with the young lady seen to the left of this post. I shall not go willingly. Even with the nice warm weather we’ve been having it’s dashed draughty bent over on that restraint apparatus thingy, and of course now she’ll be using one of those 2 metre long canes you’ve been promoting! Ouch!
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Unread postMay 08, 2020#316
Early in the twentieth many school dual purposes instruments of correction including the hickory pointer.
New posting. 1923.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 91%2C3576/
Prior posting. 1914.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 77%2C3579/
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Unread postMay 08, 2020#317
I vaguely remember an episode of Malcolm in the Middle in which Commandant Spangler, at the military academy attended by Francis, re-institutes Old Hickory into the school’s disciplinary
system and Francis tries to convince his father Hal to lie for him to avoid punishment. I can’t
remember the outcome but vaguely recall that we heard Old Hickory being used but possibly
that was the commandant practising, probably on a cushion.
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Unread postMay 08, 2020#318
Those of you who are familiar with that seminal work “The memoirs of Dolly Morton” will recall that Dolly was beaten with a hickory switch while tied to a ladder.
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Unread postMay 08, 2020#319
Pointers may have been made of hickory but the hickory stick was soon to become a thing of the past. Those ladies should be spanked and spanked hard. Maybe their high hats make them think they’re above the law. Someone should have disabused them of that notion.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 52%2C4547/
The boys had a lot to be grateful for and not the least of them was the demise of the dreaded hickory stick.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 73%2C3459/
By 1905 the martinet became an apt import to control unruly students. They had their work coup out for them having boys of different ages. They were virgins and the older boys must have proved tempting as forbidden fruit.
French students should be equally happy.
https://www.ecoleleers-nord.be/wordpres … -greniers/
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Unread postMay 08, 2020#320
It is a instrument of correction in this age of social distancing. I wonder if they have some kinky teachers. TWP’s Renee Claim/Fame recommended a paddle from a kinky site that raised eyebrows.
https://www.ecoleleers-nord.be/wordpres … sultat.jpg
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Unread postMay 09, 2020#321
A common instrument of correction was the shingle readily stored in the woodshed. A trip to the woodshed was where a father would more likely spank a son than a daughter.
1911 Newly posted.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QZgUg6rPgCU/ … 1+1911.gif
Next to the expression taken to the woodshed for a spanking is the quintessential American words of fetch me a switch. The use of the slipper was more familiar to the British. I know of no American that got the slipper in school.
To to this day the law mentions the switch along with the paddle in Oklahoma in their corporal punishment for perhaps In rural areas a shingle or a barrel stave would be less available. A mother’s hairbrush could be used on her bare bottom in a bedroom.
There would be no need to bare her bottom as priorly posted attired as many southern girls would be due to warm weather when taken to the woodshed by their fathers.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i8NqdLtnEPc/T … odshed.jpg
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Unread postMay 09, 2020#322
In its heyday this estimable Forum was far famed for poetry and the arts. These days though we don’t get much poetry, other than from the Forum Management who still cling on to the old ways and at least a vestige of culture.
On reading the article in American Way’s first link in his contribution #316 I was instantly cast back to childhood and poetry learnt by heart by some of the text therein:
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In memory of those days of yesteryear here I therefore have no hesitation in commending to you In School-days by John Greenleaf Whittier. I was amazed to find that after what must be nearly 65 years I still had it almost word perfect!
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Unread postMay 13, 2020#323
1902. Sjambok and the tawse.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti … wse+school+
Sjambok and a contemporary video.
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Unread postJul 06, 2020#324
The Blessed Trinity of the rattan, cowhide and strap are too severe for civilized naughty girls. Their tender flesh should neither be bruised nor mangled. The salutary effect of a spanking with a stinging willow switch provides sufficient grace.
Can you imagine a big girl walking in bare feet? How vulgar! Dare I say hoydenish! Girls still know how to push their mother’s buttons.
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=SFC19050820 … an——-1
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Unread postJul 31, 2020#325
There is so much written about teenage girls being spanked more than boys. Maybe because boys didn’t hang around the house as much they were punished less. Boys did not fare as well in school. Well over a century ago and a quarter ago it was not so much whether one should spank a deserving daughter but how hard, how often and with what.
Options abounded from the slipper, hairbrush, bathbrush, cowhide, and birch and what dosage, frequency as well as the state of attire was the most effective and least likely to need to be repeated? Fewer seemed opposed than in favor. I am equally sure that some of these letters were made up as well as those were authentic.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 20%2C1997/
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Unread postAug 08, 2020#326
Slaveholders used paddles and policemen use rubber hoses to hide marks but you can’t keep a ten year old from talking. The brutes should have been sentenced equally. It doesn’t say whether they were banned from their noble profession.
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=CJ19270322. … ng——-1
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Unread postAug 09, 2020#327
Hello American Way,
I take it from your comments above that you think the female teacher Mrs Mary Griffiths should have been treated as severely as Paul Coover, the male teacher. A very understandable reaction.
But consider: Despite her duplicity in not informing the child’s mother that she was going to punish the girl anyway Mrs Griffiths did have a legitimate reason to punish Irene, who had not remained behind at school when instructed to do so.
Clearly Mrs Griffiths should have taken account of the Mother’s subsequent information that she had wanted the little girl to return home promptly that day but had forgotten to give her a note, Perhaps as a consequence of that Mrs Griffiths should have merely remonstrated with Irene for not telling her at the time that she was required to go home promptly rather than paddling and whipping her. But nonetheless the fact remains that Mrs Griffiths did have a legitimate reason to discipline Irene in some manner even though in the event the punishment she administered was very excessive.
Paul Coover however had no legitimate reason to discipline Irene at all. The incident involved Mrs Griffiths and she had already dealt with the matter. One can only conclude that he thought he might enjoy beating Irene with the hose and decided to do so. I would be fairly certain that was why the court took a much more serious view of his case and made his punishment considerably more severe than that of Mrs Griffiths, three times as much prison time or five times as much as a fine.
Coover didn’t get off lightly. In today’s money his fine and costs amounted to about $840 US. Nonetheless in my opinion he merited the prison time as well as the fine and if scenes like this were still being enacted in the Detroit House of Correction in 1927 her should have got some of that as well!
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Unread postAug 09, 2020#328
In the terminal clause of my above post, for ‘her should’ read ‘he should’. Never operate modern flimsy keyboards with extended character sets unsupported on the knee. They flex and bounce keystrokes on down the contacts! ????
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Unread postAug 09, 2020#329
Paul Coover may have been the new principal and was meting out the 24 strokes that the school required for any 10-year-old boy or girl that committed such a heinous offense. Mary Griffiths didn’t have a clue on how to use the paddle.
Let’s not be too hard on her she was born at the wrong time and at the wrong place to have benefited from Renee (Claim/Fame) expertise. Perhaps the judge took that in consideration when dealing with that duplicitous sadistic bitch.
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Unread postAug 09, 2020#330
It could have been principal Paul Coover’s first day on the job and he was going by the 24 strokes from the book.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_DLKTw6DDKIY/S … stDay3.jpg
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Unread postAug 19, 2020#331
If a hatpin is not good enough try the bare hand? It has been used here on misbehaving students. The older the miscreant the more the embarrassment.
Page 10 top right hand corner. I will indicate page number so as not to be so burdensome that it would merit my posts being skipped over.
https://panewsarchive.psu.edu/lccn/sn83 … nge&page=1
For those that may prefer PDF so proffered.
https://panewsarchive.psu.edu/lccn/sn83 … seq-10.pdf
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Unread postAug 20, 2020#332
Students made mean paddles and gave them to their instructors during the hallway paddling days. They didn’t mention girls names on the paddles but more than one were used. They even got to use their drills. If nine out of ten chose corporal punishment as an option I don’t think the school would deny the girls of that choice.
https://www.cassville-democrat.com/story/2810860.html
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Unread postAug 21, 2020#333
Every time you see three hours think three swats both detention and paddlings occur on Tuesday or Thursday. Some have to wait from Friday to Tuesday. They won’t be saying TGIF.
https://sites.google.com/a/wcstudent.or … 2/handbook
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Unread postAug 23, 2020#334
kk recently recently posted a statistic showing in the south older teens are often spanked at home. This may explain so many parents do not sign the do not paddle list. If they’re 18 technically in some states it is the age of majority. If they choose suspension they will have to explain why they are at home and not school.
From what I gather the instrument of correction as in Poland birthday and Brazilian telenovelas the instrument of correction is a belt. It involves voluntary submission as would be expected at that age. Mothers are more likely to correct their daughters and father’s their sons. But it is not unheard of that gender does not play a role.
1939 households in North Carolina that didn’t spank were rare indeed. 146 to 4.
Professor Says Spanking Within Reason Advisable
Children should be spanked, says Dr. W. D. Parry of the University of North Carolina, not so much for the physical punishment as for the mental discipline. He doesn t recommend the practice for all children, but maintains that in many cases nothing takes the place of an old-
spanking, administered in the region evidently intended by nature.
Some other educators disagreed with put the question up to 150 parents, asking all who spank their children to raise their hands. All but four did so. A little spank has been known to deflate a swollen ego or relax taut nerves with beneficial results. The unlicked cub is apt to do a lot of damage to other people before ife steps in to give him the spankings when young. Life and fate do the mercy of the wise parent.
Be patient and scroll down and find a link or just trust me and read as it is written.
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=SBS19390825 … 22——-1
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Unread postAug 24, 2020#335
It would appear that the celebrated case of Josephine Foster was not just a striking outlier in 1866. Why would should that be surprising? She wasn’t the only girl that misbehaved so why should bet the only girls the school wouldn’t think she would be the only one that would benefit from a taste of a leather strap.
I would hold the target would be their bottoms or the palms of their hands and not the soles of their feet.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 74%2C6920/
The rule of the strap.
It would appear that the celebrated case of Josephine Foster was not just a striking outlier in 1866. Why would should that be surprising? She wasn’t the only girl that misbehaved so why should bet the only girls the school wouldn’t think she would be the only one that would benefit from a taste of a leather strap.
https://archive.org/details/TheRuleOfTh … 3/mode/2up
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Unread postAug 26, 2020#336
When it comes to instruments styles come and go. I don’t think plexiglass paddles ever caught on in spite of a member (may his memory be a blessing) of the Ph.D. community. To his credit he did allow those that preferred wood that option. In the first third part of the 20tn century the rubber hose grew in popularity until it withered on the vine.
There is something magical about five when it comes to man spanking a 13-year-old Negro girl for being tardy. It is never six or more and more likely than not just three. Where these numbers come from is anybody’s guess?
1924
https://news.hrvh.org/veridian/?a=d&d=s … ment——
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Unread postAug 26, 2020#337
Never underestimate the power of rubber shillelaghs. It is funny even for those who prefer to skip over more than half my postings for they feel they don’t always pertain to school corporal punishment.
No I am not going to posthumously welcome Eleanor De Hart to the Courage to Submit Hall of Fame, there are more fearsome female honorees alive and well that await A_L’s milestone posting.
1921
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=LAH19210907 … nt——-1
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Unread postAug 26, 2020#338
Hello American Way,
Don’t devalue your contributions. We may have an insular element for whom if it isn’t in the UK it isn’t SCP, but that has always been the case. I read all your contributions, and I am sure a number of others do too. Anyone who doesn’t will quite frequently miss out on interesting and unusual items.
That milestone posting. It has I fear rather fallen by the wayside. I am well aware that my sense of humour isn’t to everyone’s taste and latterly it has seemed that it has been particularly distasteful to you. Since it featured heavily in the milestone item I stopped doing bits on it when there were spare minutes to fill.
I shall, tonight or tomorrow (it’s on another system) post the first few frames. If you like it there’ll be more, if you don’t there won’t. If you do like it you’ll have to quickly remind me of the lineup currently poised awaiting me in the hallowed sanctuary of the pantheon of those with the courage to submit, because I have got a little confused with all the notified changes! ????
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Unread postAug 26, 2020#339
There was quite a bit of discussion about the best instrument of correction in a formal manner.
During that period of time the rubber hose was very popular for not all that similar reasoning than the paddle.
1904
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 38%2C1978/
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Unread postAug 26, 2020#340
This does not look like a brass edged ruler but could in fact be something somehow fashioned in a makeshift manner from a rubber hose? It is just a theory and nothing more than that.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 34%2C1337/
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Unread postAug 26, 2020#341
Garden hose theory.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 02%2C7769/
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Unread postSep 07, 2020#342
Are there two or three kinds of leather paddles employed? Is one considered more severe than the other? They switched to the Thai looking cage for likely safety purposes and its location for commercial (advertising to outside gazers). Perhaps they have retired the wooden one for it has like baseball bats break and become missiles?
The masks policy works this way in my environs. Restaurants don’t allow you to enter without a mask. The tables are spaced and the tables are larger you don’t have to wear a mask but the server does. When entering, going to the restrooms or exiting masks must be worn. You call on your cellphone in the parking lot letting them know you have arrived and they call you when they are ready to seat you.
The guy and the girl in the video below, given their size, surprisingly didn’t finish their burgers. Maybe they did and just wanted to be part of the fun and ate to their heart’s content? Because they are not at their table here they would have to wear masks. Unless it is not being enforced that does not seem to be the case in Las Vegas. What goes on in Vegas stays in Vegas.
https://gramho.com/media/2392655220957318276
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Unread postSep 09, 2020#343
Garden hoses disappeared and I am sure the pupils rejoiced but would those among the 100,000 students will be pleased when that is taken off the table though they prefer that over suspension. They wouldn’t be sending bouquets of flowers nor would their teachers from saving them from such treatment as described by some over dramatically as barbaric brutal beatings. Three swats with a paddle over a fully clothed posterior isn’t pleasant or they would choose that over suspension. It is meant to be painful but not torture as the propagandists would like us to believe.
Believe or nor student government trials has become very fashionable a century later. Out with instant Karma and in with Kafka.
https://news.hrvh.org/veridian/?a=d&d=s … +principal+——
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Unread postSep 09, 2020#344
I got the heebee-jeebies that’s what my nuns look like prior to the changes of the mid-sixties were put in place. They changed their habits but not their bad ones.
1923. She has just been sentence to six of the best.
https://thecatholicnewsarchive.org/?a=d … t%22——
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Unread postSep 28, 2020#345
Avoid parental complaints (pow wow) by using a ruler and not a switch. 1907 sage advice
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 50%2C3991/
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Unread postSep 28, 2020#346
In 1907 the fellow in charge must have had his full of teachers being accused of being brutal that he switched from the switch to a flat wooden object as in this case it was a ruler. Maybe the switch from ruler to paddle could be for a similar purpose. By spreading the point of contact over the flesh the marks were less visible as it accomplished its disciplinary purpose. The slaves were paddled instead of lashed, Were students hit by a flat wooden object for a similar reason? Could this account for the ubiquity of the paddle to this day? Marks still matter at school as attested by the twitters of young ladies that leave mothers aghast. Duh. What do they expect? Perhaps that is why mothers complain than father’s that are less likely to be confronted with the evidence of the tell tales (tails) signs.
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Unread postOct 23, 2020#347
When the 17th-century biographer John Aubrey wrote about John Milton shortly after the great poet’s death in 1674, he mentioned his temporary expulsion from Cambridge University after an argument with his tutor. He described it as “some un-kindnesse”, later inserting the words “whip’t him” into the manuscript.
A forthcoming major biography by Nicholas McDowell, professor of Early Modern Literature and Thought at Exeter University. concludes that Milton was almost certainly whipped by his first tutor, William Chappell, and that the experience was shocking enough to have shaped his views of state punishment .
Professor McDowell said “I think biographers have been rather embarrassed by the idea of a 17-year-old Milton being given a good beating by his tutor, and so have tended to cast doubt on it. but I looked at various bits of evidence from the period and found that whipping was still on the Cambridge statute book. lt was only allowed for the most part to boys who were under 18. It may be that Chappell, then aged 36, felt it was within his rights to whip Milton because he was still under 18. But it was still very unusual.”
He said: “In the 1630s, when Milton was building up his education, there were a number of incidents of Puritans who were publicly tortured by the State, had their ears cut off and were branded with the words ‘seditious libeller’. There seems to be a connection in Milton’s mind between the way you could be whipped and punished at university, and punishments that were being meted out by the state on Puritans and radicals. It culminates in Areopagitica, his great prose work of 1644 arguing against censorship.
It is not clear what actual instrument of chastisement was used.
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Unread postOct 24, 2020#348
In 1886 particular attention is placed upon the instrument of correction in Austraila. In the USA sometimes paddles are abundant enough that they are openly seen in classrooms. Some paddles are only In principal offices where they are kept in or out of the view of potential recipients while others are lent out for birthdayspankings or yearbook pictures. Some specifically state weight and dimension with some providing different ones according to grade. Paddles rarely, even when used in moderation, leave no evidence behind whether they be wales or wails. Being spanked for real in the USA is not something a student takes lightly or otherwise none would be asking for prayers for their rears or be pleased with the whole blessed arrangement period.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/arti … ol+cane%22
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Unread postOct 24, 2020#349
Leeds High School in Alabama is still paddling its student though its enrollment is only 53 even in 2017. As I noted before softball is practical as a sport for there are less than 30 girls in the school. Softball players are often the tomboys of the school and perhaps have a physique more amenable to corporal punishment than volleyball players. She at least given a choice of punishments. She close to be spanked by his fraternity paddle.
https://html1-f.scribdassets.com/30evac … e6ae88.jpg
Abbie Ellison went on to play in college as shown in the link below. Her beauty did not exempt her from paying the price of their bad choice but in college her school spanking days are over. All the volleyball players shown in a set of shots from my prior posting are college students beyond the spankable age.
If she is an education major she is getting a head start on how to paddle an unruly student. She can share stories about corporal punishment in a nearby college and won’t be looked at as if she came from outer space. The practice will last longer than most would imagine of many would prefer.
http://www.frenzy-designs.com/wp-conten … llison.jpg
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Unread postOct 26, 2020#350
2015holyfamilypenguin wrote: ↑Oct 24, 2020
In 1886 particular attention is placed upon the instrument of correction in Australia. [. . . ]
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/101713680
Given the interest of the editorial comment, and for the convenience of readers:
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The Kiama Independent, and Shoalhaven Advertiser (NSW) Fri 5 Mar 1886, Page 2
At the Mi1ton police court on the 24th ultimo, before F. M’Mahon and J. Kendall Js.P., John Orton Miller, teacher of the Public School at Burril was summoned by W. H. Wilford J.P. for having unduly punished complainant’s son, aged 15. The evidence went to show that the boy had received half a dozen cuts from the school cane resulting in wales, (probably wails also) and, according to the medical testimony, a disturbance of the scarf skin.
The alleged offence on the boy’s part was that in consequence of punishment for disorderly marching, he had left the rank in the school ground and gone home without permission, and that on being questioned about his conduct next day, he made an impertinent reply to the teacher and refused to hold out his hand to receive the cane. Defendant was fined 10s with 7s 4d costs.
The case suggests one of two points. That the boy merited punishment there seems no doubt, and it may be concluded that “six cuts” is not an unreasonable number provided they are not (as they evidently were in this case) laid on too heavily. We venture to say, that the cause of the mischief was the weapon used as, save where the recipient of the castigation happens to be very pachydermatous [having thickened or calloused skin], an ordinary school cane cannot fail to make its mark.
We have known heavy-handed teachers so far convinced of the fact by their experience in the police court, that they resorted to a strap or the old-fashioned Scotch taws, an instrument said to combine the peculiarity of the nettle with the weight of the cat. Even a return to the, antiquated birch would be far preferable to some canes which are as heavy as myall [ ]. There are of course canes and canes, but it is hardly too much to say they are all alike unsuitable, This is a point deserving the attention of our educationist Solons.
It is a reflection on school management that the educators of youth in our public schools have not yet been furnished with a suitable “regulation” instrument for administering corporal punishment. The “cat” is supplied to our gaols; let the “mouse” or whatever name may be given to a suitable weapon yet to be invented, be henceforth placed on the official requisition form, otherwise, as at a present, the number of cuts, which the regulations require to be carefully recorded in the “punishment book,” will form no true index to the amount of punishment inflicted.
Another feature of the case we have epitomised above is that it was instituted under circumstances hardly favourable to an impartial decision. We have always considered the department the best mediators between teachers and parents, and that unprejudiced local boards, where boards exist, are the proper medium for such inquiries, which should at least be instituted by persons who are purely disinterested.
We are aware, of course, that such cases as that brought before the Milton bench are usually dismissed, magistrates as a rule being little inclined to encourage juvenile delinquency, and indisposed to interfere except in cases of extreme severity. In taking this course they are hardly likely to inflict any injury on society, seeing that the aggrieved parties have their remedy with the department. A disposition on the part of aggrieved parents to appeal to the police court on the slightest provocation should be discouraged.
The average public schoolboy is not overburdened with politeness, respect, and obedience to his elders and superiors, and we should be very careful about sympathising with him in his little acts of insubordination even though at times they may seem to be visited with a little undue severity.
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Instruments of punishment should be such that they are very unlikely to cause unacceptable injury no matter how forcefully or enthusiastically they are applied. Safety should not rely on the judgement or skill of the person administering the punishment.
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Unread postOct 27, 2020#351
For those, like me puzzled by the reference to “canes which are as heavy as Myall”: Myall is the heavy wood of the Acacia Pendula, native to Australia.
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Unread postNov 06, 2020#352
When it comes to school spanking instruments of correction vary. Here is a story of 1908 Chicago schools. The paddle, slipper, strap and hand were options. Paddles prevailed a century later in USA.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 93%2C5114/
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Unread postNov 08, 2020#353
Only grandma’s slipper cab make a lastings impression without leaving a mark.
Pennsylvania bad boys 1897.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 08%2C4409/
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Unread postNov 09, 2020#354
The handsome well behaved little fellow with the chubby cheeks was well fed but the bad boywas the one with the red nether cheeks. The paddle left the slave less marred and brought a better price at auction. In borstal settings if left less incriminating marks on a miscreant.
Pennsylvania Reform School 1891.
Third column of persistent link but here is a snippet.
https://panewsarchive.psu.edu/lccn/sn84 … 99%2C4166/
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Unread postNov 09, 2020#355
An Englishman’s birch is described as a rod studded with a thick stinging bulb. It makes it sound very painful indeed.
1869 famous fictitious letters or at least I hope are fictitious for you never know?
https://panewsarchive.psu.edu/lccn/sn84 … 32%2C6559/
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Unread postNov 09, 2020#356
Hello American Way,
Yes, I think we can probably guess which periodical that was. The notorious ‘Englishwoman’s Domestic Magazine’, much discussed here in the past.
The ‘stinging bulbs’ should I think be ‘stinging buds’. In the spray birch punitive implement, commonly used for domestic corporal punishment, the practise was to strip leaves but to leave irregularities like thin twigs, buds, branch and leaf nodes etc. on the selected switches. These produced painful points of impact and contributed to the characteristic pattern of irregular scratchy looking lines and dots from a punishment with a spray birch.
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