Some Paddling Statistics

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

The figures published are worked out for individual school
districts, then for each state, then for the nation as a whole.
There are of course an enormous number of school districts in the
U.S.A., so that even though (for example) over 6000 school districts
were surveyed in 1978 and over 3000 in 1982, this was really just a
very large sampling. However, in the southern states, where there
is or was most c.p., there tended to be special concerns about
possible racial discrimination, so most school districts there were
recorded.

The disciplinary measures — suspension and corporal punishment —
are each recorded for a school district as a whole, not for
individual schools. The schools are listed (public schools, that
is), but only for race/gender breakdown in enrollment.

Nobody would imagine that the c.p. figures, as reported by each
school, then added up and passed on by district superintendents, are
true totals of what actually went on. It is very unlikely that they
recorded the c.p. given in the lowest grades, or given by coaches in
and around the gym, and so on. Many principals and some
superintendents obviously didn’t (and don’t) believe that it is any
outsider’s goddam business how they keep order in their own schools.
But the overall picture is believable. The differences in the c.p.
rates from one state to another, and the gradual change over the
years, do ring true. If they are thought of as referring only to the
c.p. that principals would know about, as underestimates in general
and gross underestimates for some individual school districts, then
they are likely to be factual.

The c.p. figures are supposed to record the actual number of
students paddled in a year, regardless of how often, but some
principals and superintendents seem always to have been unclear about
this and to have reported the number of paddlings instead. There is
no way of knowing if they did so.

I’ll quote first the figures for the states which used most c.p.
in the school year 1977-8 (collected 1978). I’ll give the number of
students in the state recorded as having “received corporal
punishment administered by a principal or his/her designee as a
formal disciplinary measure”, then what percentage that is of the
public school enrollment in the state, then the male/female breakdown
of the “received corporal punishment” number (as percentages). For
example, in Mississippi 53,388 students were recorded as being
paddled out of an enrollment of 487,473, which gives just under 11%.
Of the 53,388 paddled, 40,628 were boys (76%) and 12,760 were girls
(24%).

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

How likely was it, then, according to the figures, that a boy or
girl student would get paddled in the school year? For each of ten
states I’ll give the number of boys recorded as being paddled as a
proportion of the male public school enrollment, then the same for
the girls. For example, in Arkansas 40,492 boys were recorded as
being paddled out of 226,590 boys enrolled, i.e. 17.9%, and 11,690
girls were recorded as being paddled out of 215,704, or 5.4%.

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

All this, to repeat, is for the 1977-8 school year. It shows
Florida as the heaviest-paddling state per head. As regards girls in
particular, Florida is made out to be almost twice as ready to use
the paddle as, say, Texas or Alabama. It may be that principals and
superintendents in FL were unusually honest in reporting the facts,
but it is hard to see why, considering the hostility to c.p. that
must have been already building up in the state. And in general it
is very hard to imagine why anyone, anywhere, would report to the
Office of Civil Rights paddlings that had not occurred.

Lotta Nonsense
Jan 16, 2004#2
Paddlings ‘per head’?

Is ‘ per head ‘ really an appropriate term under the circumstances?
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chibob
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Jan 16, 2004#3
Jess; It looks like you have done a lot of work to compile and post all of these percentages. I for one am very interested and would like to see any more figures you come up with.

I think you touched upon the fact that the smaller districts used far more CP than the large dist. did.The smaller dist. are generally located in the rural areas and the parents were usually farmers and blue collar workers who go to church every Sunday and believe in the old spare the rod mentality. They would be far more accepting of CP in the schools than city dwellers would be.

Another point you touched upon was the fact that the stats do not include use of CP by teachers in the classroom, which usually would be only two or three swats whereas the Principal always gave four to six swats or more.If the CP use by teachers and coaches was included, the numbers would be quadrupled or higher. I think most teachers would want to handle as much discipline as possible in the classroom so as not to look incapable of maintaining order in their own class. And almost any student would prefer a couple of swats from the teacher to a trip to the Principal. I think in the larger schools and school dist. only the Principal would be authorized to use CP.

I’ve seen some other stats. on corpun relating to schools that give high school students a choice between swats and detention. It shows that the older the students get the more likely they are to choose CP over detention.The surprising thing is that girls in their junior and senior years chose swats over 50% of the time.That was just in Texas. I don’t recall any figures for other states.
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Saro
Jan 16, 2004#4
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

The kids came came from several schools in the poorest and most crime-ridden (High-risk) parts of the Miami area. I’m not sure if the students had to have been extra troubled to get into this program but a few of them (almost 95% black btw) had quite serious issues and reputations for violence — none of them had been in Juve. but many of them knew of other kids who were. There was one boy in particular who scared everyone — the other kids as well as all the teachers — he had a mean, threatening way of looking at you. This was my first teaching experience in the US and I was easily scared. The girls were much less threatening — their biggest issue was sex — many would come to school wearing the trashiest outfits possible — The female teachers were told to offer these girls “fashion advice” regarding more modest dressing and getting boys and to keep a look out in the bathrooms for vomiting — signs of pregnancy or eating disorders. Amongst both boys and girls there were a some who had psychological issues — like depression or who showed manic, obsessive behaviors.

So regarding discipline — there was no punishment except for expulsion of the program. The two directors (they were authority figures) had an “I’m tough and will not hesitate to bust your ass — but I love you act” were respected. The teachers were just seen as people to help the students learn — possbile mentor — not authority exactly. Even though there were many “perks” in this program like computer classes, swimming, and other activities only available on the posh University of Miami campus, there was never any withholding of those activities privileges for misbehavior. In the case of classroom discipline – if an issue with a student came up — there were special counselors — who would be immediately called to talk with the student who would be immediately moved out of the class.
Some of the students had a regular counselor/case worker that they met with everyday regardless.
In general the kids were pretty good during class — once two girls got in a fight in my class — but there never were serious incidents — just a general feeling of depression prevailed amongst students and teachers. I’ve haven’t taught in the US since.

This was a bit of an extra-special program — but I never even knew that the state of Florida officially sanctioned CP!! — Miami-Dade county standards being significantly different than districts more North or it is an understatement. Jeb Bush can just eat his heart out.

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Tracey
Jan 16, 2004#5
I have found it difficult to warm to people on this forum. So many of them come over as cold and calculating. There are exceptions and Saro is one of them. She is a REAL person and so is Bob T. I would like to say thank you to both of them for bringing a bit of humanity to this board.
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Bob T
Jan 16, 2004#6
Thank you Tracey, you are very kind.

Saro; Did these classes take place on the University campus? If so,they would never allow CP to be used on their campus.It seems like I have read recently about protests in the Miami-Dade Co. area over the use of CP in the public schools and there may be something on the corpun site about that.

The schools in my area seem to have councelors for students of all ages. This is something that did not exist when I was in school. There were councilors in High School but not for younger kids.Teaching seems to have changed a lot since I was there.My son has separate teachers for math and reading and a third teacher for everything else and he’s only in 1st grade.
This method must work very well for him, because he is at the top of his class.

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Saro
Jan 17, 2004#7
Tracey — thanks.

Bob T — the program was held on the U Miami campus that year and the following — but not before or after — they rotated sites. U Miami’s policies notwithstanding (this is a real word? — I’ve never spelled it out before) I can’t imagine any of the teachers considering CP — those kids might have had friends take us out in a drive-by — I exaggerate slightly — but I’m sure CP would have brought the devil out of most of them — or cowed them completely. The director — who was a real principal during the regular term did seem like someone who might have wielded a flaming paddle — but it was obvious that no one feared that option — he was great with the kids. When the teachers were briefed — it was never said “contrary to the regular school year because we’re on U Miami’s campus there’s no CP. CP was never mentioned — if it was an option druing the school year– I never heard anything about it — I did hear about how we couldn’t send anyone to detention in the summer prog. as opposed to during the local school year.

I’ll have to look up the Miami-Dade stuff on Corpun. Perhaps at less high-risk area schools — maybe in Liberty City:)

At U. Miami the music department required some students to participate in 6 hours of straight-tone chorale rehearsal a week — this was corporal punishment — especially since the conductor behaved like a German Dictator humiliating singers whenever he could and he had a TA stand at the door and write up latecomers.
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Dean
Jan 17, 2004#8
During Summer of 1999 I taught in a summer school program run by Miami-Dade school district for 6th-9th grade — though some of the kids were up to 16 years old.

http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/democrat … 695815.htm

Start of article:

“Corporal punishment still prevalent in schools

JACKSONVILLE – Corporal punishment still exists in two-thirds of Florida’s school systems, even though it has been abandoned by most of the larger districts, state records show.

There were 11,000 spanking incidents in the state last year, down from 184,000 in the 1981-1982 school year. Most of the larger school systems – including Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties – haven’t used corporal punishment in the past five years.”
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chibob
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Jan 17, 2004#9
Dear Saro; I found this article on the corpun website for the year that you were teaching there.

APB News, New York, 3 March 1999
Teacher charged with child abuse
Allegedly Beat First-Graders With 21-Inch Paint Stick
By Valerie Kalfrin

MIAMI (APBNews.com) — A first-grade teacher faces federal child abuse charges tonight for allegedly using “Mr. Stick” — a 21-inch stick used to stir paint — to discipline her students, authorities said.

Assistant state attorneys Don Ungurait and Mindy Paurowski told APBNews.com they are still evaluating the evidence against Mariefrance Milhomme and will make a decision to file formal charges against her by March 22.

“Corporal punishment is not per se illegal in schools; it’s a violation of school policy. At issue here is the circumstances under which she struck the children,” Ungurait said, adding that the woman faces a maximum of 30 years in prison if convicted of all counts.

Milhomme, a 29-year-old Pembroke Pines resident who school officials said taught at Henry E.S. Reeves Elementary School for two years, was arrested Monday on six counts of “child abuse resulting in no great harm” after an anonymous call to the school prompted an investigation, authorities said.

Caught on hidden camera
The Miami-Dade County Public Schools Police Department, which handles allegations against employees, eventually placed a security camera in Milhomme’s classroom closet, Lt. Dorene Baker said.

According to the arrest affidavit, Milhomme “directed a student to a closet inside her classroom,” where the camera recorded her closing the door and beating the student with a 21-inch, heavy-duty paint stirrer with “Mr. Stick” written on it.

Milhomme spent Monday morning in Turner Guilford Knight jail and was released on $30,000 bond that afternoon, Baker said.

She has been assigned to the school district’s regional administrative office pending the outcome of the investigation, said Dr. Henry C. Fraind, deputy superintendent of the 350,000-student school district.

None of the children was seriously injured, the affidavit said, but the beatings “could reasonably be expected to result in the physical or mental injury to the children.” The document also said the students interviewed “consistently described the beatings” and told investigators they cried.

‘The lady knew better’
“County guidelines clearly state that a teacher cannot use corporal punishment to discipline a child,” Fraind said. “We have a preponderance of evidence that the teacher did it. … The lady knew better.”

Fraind said a number of parents have been supportive of the teacher, a sentiment echoed by Edward Tobin, Milhomme’s Miami attorney, in published reports.

“I know she is well-liked by all of the parents, and she does a great job,” he was quoted as saying. “She’s a hard worker, and she will be exonerated.”

APBNews.com was unable to reach the attorney for additional comment this afternoon. A woman answering the phone at Milhomme’s house said the teacher was not home.

Valerie Kalfrin is an APBNews.com staff writer

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Brian 4
Jan 17, 2004#10
The final paragraph of the article mentioned by Dean reads:

The Leon County School district ended corporal punishment in 1991. Information for other counties in the Big Bend was not available late Monday.

Does the Big Bend refer to the time that Texican principal paddled the whole school in under two hours?

Anyone who is able to use the word notwithstanding in their messages automatically becomes a member of our Clique, so welcome thereto!

Some of us in the U.K. may not be familiar with the expression straight-tone. Is this a style of singing in which the performers are not allowed to use vibrato?

Gillian
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sd1936
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Jan 17, 2004#12
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

Dean — I’m guessing “Big Bend” refers to the state of Florida not the alleged event in Texas. I’ll look the term up — never heard it used before — only lived in Miami for 1.5 years and Miami isn’t like the rest of Florida. The statement that Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties don’t use corporal punishment goes along with my impression of the school system BTW. Are you the Dean who is this boards authority on Australian school CP?

Bob T — I also found the Milhomme article — I think that the school she taught at is in North Miami — where many of the kids I taught were from. I’m not writing any kind of argument re. Florida State’s policies re. CP — frankly above Broward county, Florida becomes more like the American South in terms of culture– lots of religion, a Rich-Poor population schism, and not a few red-necks; however, I believe the local reaction shows that Milhomme was clearly breaking her county’s (Miami-Dade’s)anti cp stance. Had I read the newspapers or watched TV news regularly I might have caught the article on Milhomme — but didn’t and I never heard of it till now — given the context of my summer teaching, it was never brought up — not sure if that speaks to the incidence being usual, or if they wanted it to go away. Probably it just wasn’t relevant — it didn’t need to be said that we had no CP options.
In my previous posts, I was indirectly getting at how different things are in Miami-Dade (probably Broward and Palm Beach too) compared with the rest of Florida in terms of demographics, politics and culture. Were’nt those the three counties affected by the faulty voting apparatus during the last presidential election? The greater Miami area could really be a different state altogether.
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Jan 17, 2004#13
Dean — Big Bend refers to a part of Northern (and Western)Florida where Tallahassee and those said counties lie. Big Bend is also the name of a National Park in Texas!!
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chibob
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Jan 17, 2004#14
Saro; I think you may have Big Bend confused with the Florida Panhandle.I know Tallahasee is located right in the middle of the Panhandle.
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sd1936
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Jan 17, 2004#15
Completely confused. The Panhandle is that Northern Western part? The Big Bend is the middle Northern Part? I drove through Jacksonville once — on the way to New York — never came back.
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Jan 17, 2004#16
Dear Saro,

Anyone who is able to use the word notwithstanding in their messages automatically becomes a member of our Clique, so welcome thereto!

Some of us in the U.K. may not be familiar with the expression straight-tone. Is this a style of singing in which the performers are not allowed to use vibrato?

Gillian
Gillian — yes straight-tone is vibratoless singing.
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chibob
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Jan 17, 2004#17
Completely confused. The Panhandle is that Northern Western part? The Big Bend is the middle Northern Part? I drove through Jacksonville once — on the way to New York — never came back.
The Forida Panhandle is the part of the state that curves around the Gulf of Mexico in the Northwest and runs into Alabama,Mississippi,Louisiana, and then the Texas Panhandle.I have never heard of the Big Bend. I think Brian was going for the next ‘Brian of the Week Award.’
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Big John
Jan 17, 2004#18
Big Bend I like the sound of the words. Theyre the kind-a words that make me feel tight in the throat, like when a man sees his baby take his first walk or wins his first Brian of the Week award. The Big Bend is a place where a man can buy or sell, be drunk or sober as he rafts the canyons, hikes the desert to forgotten Indian reservations and burnt down homesteads. Some words give ya a feelin in your belly: Big Bend are two of those words.

http://www.bigbendrivertours.com/

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Dean
Jan 17, 2004#19
Gillian — Thanks — I look forward to gratuitously trying out more long, oddly-formed and superflous English words on the board.

Yes, I’m the guy who keeps posting the Australian CP information. I’m a historian by training (with any luck, I’ll soon be doing it professionally – I have interviews over the next month) and one of my great desires is to write a ‘popular history’ of Australian education – the bits people are actually interested in. Corporal punishment is one of those areas – one of the more significant for me – so I gather every single piece of historical information I can, and because I have bona fides as a historical researcher, I’ve even been able to get access to some records that aren’t generally publically available. Most of what I’ve got it available to the public – just spread around hundreds of books.

I also do look at research and material from other countries – but I have less access to that. The post on paddling statistics though has inspired to get on with an analysis of some rather detailed statistics from 1950s England and Wales, and I’ll post some of that as soon I have it in a form that makes sense.
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Big John
Jan 17, 2004#20
Big Bend I like the sound of the words. Theyre the kind-a words that make me feel tight in the throat, like when a man sees his baby take his first walk or wins his first Brian of the Week award. The Big Bend is a place where a man can buy or sell, be drunk or sober as he rafts the canyons, hikes the desert to forgotten Indian reservations and burnt down homesteads. Some words give ya a feelin in your belly: Big Bend are two of those words.

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Vibrato I like the sound of the word. Its the kind-a word that makes me feel tight in the throat, like when a man sees his baby take his first walk or plays his first solo in the style of Louis Armstrong or sings his first song like Des OConnor. Some words give ya a feelin in your groin: Vibrato, or jelly as them Texicans say, is one of those words.
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Jan 18, 2004#21
Hi Saro,

I also do look at research and material from other countries – but I have less access to that. The post on paddling statistics though has inspired to get on with an analysis of some rather detailed statistics from 1950s England and Wales, and I’ll post some of that as soon I have it in a form that makes sense.
Saro; I did some checking and I guess they call that 90 degree turn the state makes up in the north west big bend country.
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Jess
Jan 21, 2004#22
1 Arkansas 35,679 students paddled out of 259,529 enrolled > 13.7 %
of which 77% were male (M) and 23% female (F).

2 Florida 183,890 ” ” ” 1,484,917 ” > 12.4 % ” M 77% / F 23%.

3 Mississippi 54,664 ” ” ” 458,675 ” > 11.9 % ” M 77% / F 23%.

4 Oklahoma 18,249 ” ” ” 163,176 ” > 11.2 % ” M 77% / F 23%.

5 Tennessee 73,369 ” ” ” 676,339 ” > 10.8 % ” M 79% / F 21%.

6 Alabama 72,088 ” ” ” 720,679 ” > 10.0 % ” M 81% / F 19%.

7 Texas 204,012 ” ” ” 2,060,984 ” > 9.9 % ” M 80% / F 20%.

8 Georgia 95,769 ” ” ” 1,043,614 ” > 9.2 % ” M 79% / F 21%.

9 Kentucky 26,682 ” ” ” 361,282 ” > 7.4 % ” M 78% / F 22%.

10 S Carolina 36,619 ” ” ” 565,762 ” > 6.5 % ” M 81% / F 19%.

11 Ohio 45,512 ” ” ” 788,424 ” > 5.8 % ” M 81% / F 19%.

12 N Carolina 58,515 ” ” ” 1,066,501 ” > 5.5 % ” M 82% / F 18%.

13 Louisiana 38,664 ” ” ” 752,887 ” > 5.1 % ” M 81% / F 19%.

14 W Virginia 7,230 ” ” ” 150,764 ” > 4.8 % ” M 86% / F 14%.

15 Indiana 17,225 ” ” ” 421,744 ” > 4.1 % ” M 86% / F 14%.

16 Missouri 12,598 ” ” ” 444,786 ” > 2.8 % ” M 81% / F 19%.

17 N Mexico 1,824 ” ” ” 99,523 ” > 1.8 % ” M 78% / F 22%.

If you compare these figures with those for 1977-8, you can see
that Arkansas has replaced Florida as the heaviest-paddling state.
That isn’t too reliable as a conclusion, since AR has a fairly small
population and for some reason — despite being in the south with
some Civil Rights problems — far fewer of its school districts were
surveyed in 1981-2, so in its case the numbers may not be properly
representative. With Florida the numbers are much bigger and not
liable to chance distortion, and they come out very close to the FL
figures for 1977-8 — or rather they show a slight increase over the
four years in the percentage getting c.p. In fact all of the ‘top’
ten states in these lists except Georgia show an increase over the
four years, a big increase in the cases of Arkansas, Alabama,
Oklahoma, Tennessee, Kentucky and Mississippi. If these figures are
giving a fair impression, the big decrease in the use of c.p. in
American schools had not begun in the first years of the 1980s.

Second list, boys, same school year, same states:

1 Arkansas 27,646 boys had c.p. out of 133,175 enrolled > 20.8 %.

2 Florida 140,968 ” ” ” 763,975 ” > 18.5 %.

3 Mississippi 41,899 ” ” ” 235,202 ” > 17.8 %.

4= Oklahoma 13,969 ” ” ” 84,337 ” > 16.6 %.

4= Tennessee 57,681 ” ” ” 347,994 ” > 16.6 %.

6 Alabama 58,330 ” ” ” 370,306 ” > 15.8 %.

7 Texas 163,719 ” ” ” 1,058,479 ” > 15.5 %.

8 Georgia 75,281 ” ” ” 535,878 ” > 14.0 %.

9 Kentucky 20,684 ” ” ” 186,013 ” > 11.1 %.

10 S Carolina 29,632 ” ” ” 290,733 ” > 10.2 %.

11 Ohio 36,670 ” ” ” 406,092 ” > 9.0 %.

12 N Carolina 47,919 ” ” ” 536,844 ” > 8.9 %.

13 Louisiana 31,381 ” ” ” 386,921 ” > 8.1 %.

14 W Virginia 6,208 ” ” ” 77,727 ” > 8.0 %.

15 Indiana 14,773 ” ” ” 217,359 ” > 6.8 %.

16 Missouri 10,613 ” ” ” 228,447 ” > 4.6 %.

17 N Mexico 1,414 ” ” ” 51,253 ” > 2.8 %.

Third list, same for girls:

1 Arkansas 8,034 girls had c.p. out of 126,354 enrolled > 6.4 %.

2 Florida 42,922 ” ” ” 720,942 ” > 6.0 %.

3 Mississippi 12,765 ” ” ” 223,473 ” > 5.7 %.

4 Oklahoma 4,280 ” ” ” 78,839 ” > 5.4 %.

5 Tennessee 15,688 ” ” ” 328,346 ” > 4.8 %.

6= Georgia 20,488 ” ” ” 507,858 ” > 4.0 %.

6= Texas 40,294 ” ” ” 1,002,112 ” > 4.0 %.

8 Alabama 13,758 ” ” ” 350,373 ” > 3.9 %.

9 Kentucky 5,998 ” ” ” 175,289 ” > 3.4 %.

10 S Carolina 6,987 ” ” ” 275,029 ” > 2.5 %.

11 Ohio 8,842 ” ” ” 382,332 ” > 2.3 %.

12= N Carolina 10,596 ” ” ” 529,657 ” > 2.0 %.

12= Louisiana 7,283 ” ” ” 365,987 ” > 2.0 %.

14 W Virginia 1,022 ” ” ” 73,037 ” > 1.4 %.

15 Indiana 2,452 ” ” ” 204,385 ” > 1.2 %.

16 Missouri 2,338 ” ” ” 216,339 ” > 1.1 %.

17 N Mexico 410 ” ” ” 48,260 ” > 0.8 %.
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Big Ben Driver
Jan 22, 2004#23
Saro; I did some checking and I guess they call that 90 degree turn the state makes up in the north west big bend country.
And I thought Big Bend was that clock tower near the end of Westminster Bridge!
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Jan 23, 2004#24
I am delighted that Big Ben Driver has afforded me the opportunity to remind him, and all potential junk-posters, that I am the only contributor to this wonderful forum whose JunkPosts are approved, and indeed welcomed, by the management.

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Feb 25, 2016#25
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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November 19, 1974. Lakeland Ledger.

Seven swats for high school administered posteriorly.

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Ralph Anthony paddled Kimberly Jones

January 6, 1986.

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The rise and fall of paddling in Polk County.

April 19, 1987

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December 12, 1988 Polk County Record

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The demise of paddling in Polk County.

June 28, 1989

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Florida Today Very Rare.

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Florida Past Very Well Done

43,483 Floridian girls got their bottoms tanned every year.

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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Aug 31, 2016#27
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

The population has grown significantly. 324,227,000 now and in 1986 it was 240,132,887.

The Free Lance-Star – Apr 6, 1988

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The discomfort with school corporal punishment reflects that downward trend.

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Corporal Punishment in U.S. Public Schools: Legal Precedents…. By Elizabeth Gershoff, Kelly M. Purtell… 2015.

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Sep 17, 2016#28
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

What he doesn’t seem to focus on is that woman are more likely to do the paddling and I would imagine that it would be rare indeed for a man to paddle without a female present. He assumes a lot of undercounted sore 18-year-old female bottoms. He knows what his readership likes to imagine

Here is a direct quote.

Yes, we like to fantasize about a naughty 18 year old girl getting in trouble at school and having to bend over and grab her ankles for a good paddling, but how often does this really take place? Today we are going to look at only high schools, from three different states, in three different school districts (note all information comes from the US Dept. of Education, Civil Rights Data Collection office).

The first is a very large school district in Mississippi in which there are a total of
28,455 students in the district. Only looking at students in the 9th-12th grades, there were a total of 1731 paddlings administered during the 2013-14 school year. Of those 1731 paddlings, 225 of them were administered to girls. The average amount of days nationwide that students are required to be at school is 180. This does not count “conference” days of “teacher in service days”. So that means, on the average there were 1.25 paddlings administered to a female high school student’s bottom a day.

Let’s do the same math for a much smaller district in Alabama with 6036 total high school students. Of those 6036 high school aged students, 1037 of them were paddled during the same school year. Of those 1037 paddled, 260 of them were girls. Based on the same amount of school days that is 1.4 female butts a day receiving the paddle. Finally, a day in the life of a school district in Texas, in a district of 4921 students, at the high school level there were a total 569 paddlings, 189 applied to a female bottom. This means that there was a female high school student paddled 1.05 times a day. If we put the math together for three different states, 3 different districts, we average 3.7 high school aged girls receiving school corporal punishment each and every day of the school year.

This is looking at only three school districts, in the 19 states that still allow corporal punishment. I did not pull these figures because these schools have the highest statistics; I simply looked at several random schools that still utilized corporal punishment. All of these high schools combined equal 549 paddlings of females, but you have to wonder what the real number really is. These 549 girls that were paddled represent the instances in which corporal punishment was used, fully within the school guidelines, documented at the local level, those stats passed onto the district, and then reported to the US Dept. of Education. Do you think in the backwoods or Alabama, small town Mississippi, and the panhandle of Texas that every paddling is “official” and on the books? In one of those districts teachers are also allowed to paddle students in the hall. Do you think every high school girl that is marched into the hall, bent over with her hands on the locker, for a little private paddling from a teacher, has her punishment documented? What about the athletic coaches who have always managed to handle their own disciplinary issues in the locker room? Does that coach fill out all of the forms and make sure that they move up the chain to the Federal government?

I would be willing to bet that the number 549 represents less than half of the paddlings that took place in those high schools during that school year. We are not talking about schools in which parents get all bent out of shape when they find out that their daughter received a paddling. In so very many of these cases, the girls actually elect to be paddled, as that is an option their parents might not find out about. It is much harder to hide a suspension, or even having to stay after school, than it is to hide a paddling. They take the paddling at school because they know that the number of swats will be limited, which is far different from the whuppin they would get if their parents found out they were in trouble at school.

Even if we take these numbers at face value, which means that in five total high schools, on any given day,there were at least four total paddlings take place. Now if we look at the rest of the high schools, in the other 19 states, we are talking about an awful lot of sore bottoms. Yes, there are certainly those schools in which a paddling is not such an ordeal. The girl goes to the office, is told she is going to be paddled, and receives a couple of “pops” to her bottom. They sting quite a bit, but in the grand scope of things are not that big of a deal. But even if just 1 in 5 of those principals from those reporting schools takes corporal punishment really seriously, we are still talking about 110 paddlings that are being administered in a very serious manner.

They wouldn’t need that supposed video mentioned by a former frequent poster to train students preparing teach at in Southern schools how to safely paddle for they could just show them a GIF posted under school girl fiction. They could entice the student to sign a release form to reduced the number of swats assigned or convince a teacher to model for a vacation day. The model shown seems like an average high school student with the apprehension of a girl about to face the enormity of an intense ten swat paddling. They both seem to want to get it over as quickly as possible at the end of their pay day. She probably gets more money for the bruises need to dissipate before the next shooting. She will be as good as new in a day or two.

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

I wonder what accounts for such gender disproportions. The lack of a professional female paddler or witness? Prejudicial enforcement? Easiness of conforming to the code? False reporting? Any other guesses?

Mississippi.

J Z George High School.

47.5% of Students At This School Were Received Corporal Punishment

By Ethnicity:
• 63.7% of 193 Black students
• 16.5% of 97 White students

By Gender:
• 14.1% of 135 females
• 75.3% of 162 males

Students With Limitations:
• 59.1% of 22 students with learning disabilities

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Georgia.

Wilcox High School.

45.1% of Students At This School Were Received Corporal Punishment

By Ethnicity:
• 58.5% of 142 Black students
• 33.1% of 181 White students

By Gender:
• 31.2% of 170 females
• 58.6% of 174 males

Students With Limitations:
• 69.2% of 26 students with learning disabilities

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Arkansas.

Booneville of Nancy Guillen fame.

11.6% of Students At This School Were Received Corporal Punishment

By Ethnicity:
• 23.4% of 64 Black students
• 9.4% of 286 White students

By Gender:
• 3.7% of 191 females
• 20.6% of 170 males

Students With Limitations:
• 12.5% of 32 students with learning disabilities

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

14.0% of Students At This School Were Received Corporal Punishment

By Ethnicity:
• 10.5% of 19 Hispanic/Latino students
• 14.6% of 253 White students

By Gender:
• 1.4% of 139 females
• 26.4% of 140 males

Students With Limitations:

None Listed.

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States Most Disciplinary Problems.

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

Corporal punishment was applied 100 times to males and 20 times to females during the 2013-14 school year. Gender data was missing for two students. The breakdown by race/ethnicity is shown below.

Given the paucity of use implementing a total ban would rankle few feathers. Of the 122 incidence 66 were administered to American Indian and 43 to whites. There were two unaccounted for but on 3 blacks, 4 Hispanic and 4 multiracial.

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Use of Corporal Punishment by Ethnicity, Race, and Gender

Corporal punishment was applied 100 times to males and 20 times to females during the 2013-14 school year. Gender data was missing for two students. The breakdown by race/ethnicity is shown below.

Uses of Corporal Punishment

Robeson County
67
Macon County
24
Graham County
22
Swain County
8
Onslow County
1
State Total
122

Reasons given.

Disruptive Behavior
49
Bus Misbehavior
12
Disrespect of Staff
11
Disorderly Conduct
8
Cell Phone Use
8
Fighting or Affray
7
Aggressive Behavior
6
Bullying
6
Inappropriate Language
5
Other (not specified)
5
All Others
19
Total
136

Prior posted.

2011-2012.

Source: North Carolina Department of Public Instruction, 2011-12 Consolidated Data Report.

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A dated video with Paula Flowe and North Carolina in 2008.

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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The story highlights how special educations students are more likely to be paddled.

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Vian High School paddles 55% of the 62 special education student and 37% of the other students. In the course of four years you’re very likely to be paddled.

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Vian, Oklahoma is one the highest for it paddles 55% of the 62 special education student and 37% of the other students.

They report a lot less to the federal office of civil rights under disciplinary trends than their local authorities. I have referred to that phenomenon before.

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

Thanks once again for all of your amazing research, and in particular all of the links you give us.

It is interesting that at Vian High School the high rate of paddling of Special Ed students does not appear to reduce the suspensions. Some 23% have ISS and 48% OSS.

I have to say that this does not surprise me. I had previously noticed in the OCRData that some high paddling schools also often have high suspension rates, although others do not.
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Jan 09, 2017#34
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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“Made you look you dirty crook you stole your mothers pocketbook” Oklahoma.

It was not in the principal’s office as often in 1980 but in an empty classroom or a corridor where the paddle was administered. where the paddle was applied as in the above linked “electric paddle” where it was applied to this girl in her trendy attire. She seems to know the drill. He doesn’t look like a teacher and she doesn’t look like a fellow member of the faculty.

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7% of the student body are still paddled. I hope they don’t have a power failure.

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A brief perusal of the state shown here gives you the idea of how small Oklahoma schools are and how Native Americans. Such a small state and so many schools. Geography is destiny when your destination is the principal’s office to be paddled. It’s areas like this with small schools and few faculty members that may be the last hold outs for paddling in the USA.

If you’re going to a school as small as Asher High School you’re chances are often better of being paddled than larger schools. It’s so small it’s hard to get away with anything.

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Enrollment. 76. Rate of corporal punishment 89% Special Education (9 students) 29% others.

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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Oklahoma paddle. How many generations were paddled by that monster?

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The story highlights how special educations students are more likely to be paddled.

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Vian High School paddles 55% of the 62 special education student and 37% of the other students. In the course of four years you’re very likely to be paddled.

Scroll alphabetically to Vian.

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Vian, Oklahoma is one the highest for it paddles 55% of the 62 special education student and 37% of the other students.

They report a lot less to the federal office of civil rights under disciplinary trends than their local authorities. I have referred to that phenomenon before.

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This is a follow up on my December 5, 2016 post.

Josh Gwartney, principal of the early childhood center at Chouteau-Mazie Public Schools, Oklahoma. It is a low income, less educated city.

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Pity him being the only man in the school with a staff of eighteen females. Prior posted image.

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His elementary school (12 and under) paddle found in bottom link..

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His staff has a high absenteeism rate. Scroll to C.

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Chouteau-Mazie Early Childhood Center corporal punishment statistics.

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Page 30 of student handbook.

“With all disciplinary actions, the principal reserves the right to exercise the discretion to skip to any appropriate disciplinary level in this schedule, based on the severity of any violation. It is further understood that the principal will exercise the discretion to deal with any unforeseen disciplinary problems or extenuating circumstances on a case by case basis. Administration reserves the right to any other disciplinary action including corporal punishment as deemed appropriate under the circumstances for the individual student. This means any student could be elevated to any Tier and receive any discipline listed.”

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The buck stops here.

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December 5, 2106 post.

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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This was written awhile back.

Yeah, so there, it depends on the school, and it depends on the district. Some school principals can decide only male administrators are going to paddle male students, and only female administrators will paddle female students. But other schools, you know, a male principal can spank sometimes a 17- or eight-year-old female or male student.

And, you know, when I asked students, when I was up there, and I was asking them how does it feel, how – do you feel uncomfortable, or how comfortable are you when you have to turn around and let a male or a female, you know, spank you on your butt, I was anticipating that I was going to hear some students, at least some students, say, you know, it’s really uncomfortable for, you know, maybe, like, some sexual reasons. But I’ve never heard that. Students hadn’t really thought of that.

And I was actually reluctant to ask students that question when I noticed that nobody was even touching on a sexual element because I didn’t want to plant a seed. You know, I didn’t want them to start seeing it this way if they hadn’t already.

But I did eventually ask them, and, I mean, if you could see the look on their faces when I asked them, they were just really grossed out by what I thought was a very practical question to ask. These students view their principals as father figures, and in these rural small towns in the Florida Panhandle, it’s totally acceptable to get spanked by your principal, and the students, the male and the female high school students, don’t consider themselves too old to get a spanking by their principals or by their parents.

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May 04, 2017#39
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

I often wonder why there is such a discrepancy in genders in paddling states. I have come to the conclusion it may have more to do with reporting or may have more to do with the lack of female personnel either authorized or willing to inflict or witness paddlings than breaking of rules. Girls aren’t that muc different than boys to warrant such a discrepancy.

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May 05, 2017#40
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

The figures for individual school districts in Florida are
available, and naturally they show big differences between one
district and another. Dade County, the largest and the most
Hispanic, records very little c.p., as you can well believe. Some
small school districts elsewhere in the state compensate with quite
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The numbers for Arkansas sound about right, I would have guessed 70/30 or 75/25. But the difference is that from my recollection, I do not believe there was any boy who made it through the year without getting it at least once, whereas the 25% of the girls who got it were often the same group who received it many times during the school era. I received it anywhere from 12 to 6 a year, and sometimes it was a choice to accept that vs detention or weekend cleaning crew.
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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

Looking only at students with disabilities, corporal punishment was inflicted on 991 students. The total number of incidents of corporal punishment among children with disabilities was 1,760.

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Let me review the data of Wilcox High School of Rochelle Georgia.

Girls are much closer in numbers of being suspended than being paddled. We’ll never know why that’s so because of behavior or disproportionate opt outs?

Suspensions

30.0% of 170 females
37.9% of 174 males

Corporal Punishment.

31.2% of 170 females
58.6% of 174 males

Disciplinary trends.

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Story from Albuquerque Journal April 30, 2016.

Wilcox County officials said there were 285 paddlings last year at the county’s high school about 80 miles south of Macon, which has just under 400 students. Paddling is almost an every day occurrence considering there are only 180 school days.

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May 14, 2017#42
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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The Tennessee argument by statistics.

Keep in mind some of this statistical argument against disparity according limitations bears little or no significance due to the minuscule numbers paddling occurred in their schools.

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Marshall High School is an example of a high school. It may be worth noting that an anti CP advocacy from Tennessee was the only state that pursued to no avail a gender discrimination suit based on boys being paddled much more often than girls.

9.3% of Students At This School Were Received Corporal Punishment.

By Gender:6.1% of 396 females

12.7% of 385 malesStudents

By Limitations: 10.3% of 68 students with learning disabilities.

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Would it not be a more felicitous way to say, never mind grammatically correct? Were Recipients Of Corporal Punishment
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Oklahoma paddle. How many generations were paddled by that monster?

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The story highlights how special educations students are more likely to be paddled.

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Vian High School paddles 55% of the 62 special education student and 37% of the other students. In the course of four years you’re very likely to be paddled.

Scroll alphabetically to Vian.

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Vian, Oklahoma is one the highest for it paddles 55% of the 62 special education student and 37% of the other students.

They report a lot less to the federal office of civil rights under disciplinary trends than their local authorities. I have referred to that phenomenon before.

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The Media Sentinel Ohio December 25, 1914 Ohio

27 boys were birched and 2 girls in a school of about 4,000. And powers to be were none too pleased. What did they expect angels.

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Knoxville daily chronicle., February 17, 1882

In 1882 Knoxville Tennessee there were 497 boys and 79 girls corporally punished in a school half the size of Medina.

More than half of the boys and nearly 50% and nearly 10% of the girls were corporally punished. It was three to one white in enrollment. The Office of Civil Rights had not even been invented so there were no unfunded mandates.

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

Corsicana High School bucks the trend of radical differences i gender application of corporal punishment. 9.6% of 764 female and 19.7% of 839 males

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On page 246 it shows that 538 were paddled so the lumber is still swinging.

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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The Female Middle School Capital is the Selma Middle Chat School. Study the color and size of the dots without going bonkers and you will come up with the stats if you’re interested,

101 out of 230 girls grades 6 to 9 and 230 out of 234 boys. A_L would be one of the 4 boys.

Fifth Down Far column.

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The Alabama Female High School Capital is Greenville High School. Look for the large red dot in the southern most region of Alabama.

450 students, or 68.8% of the student population at Greenville High School identify as African-American, making up the largest segment of the student body.

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90 out of 327 girls and 179 out of 323 boys.

Images of Greenville High.

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Enterprise Alabama, albeit white, ranked right up there.

1,422 students, or 65.8% of the student population at Enterprise High School identify as Caucasian, making up the largest segment of the student body

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What a tragedy!

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Uplifting.

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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Corporal punishment was not recorded as occurring in her former school

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Sure is a lot of flushing going on here.

LaShondra Moorer is not to be confused with Lashondra Moore.

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LaTangela Williams. A_L she liked athletes.

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

Superb research! I didn’t find any of that, though last night I was momentarily confused by finding a picture of LaShondra Moore when I was looking for one of LaShondra Moorer.

It’s all go in Selma, Alabama isn’t it! I definitely think a spell in the schools of 21st century Selma would have done the juvenile Another_Lurker the world of good! He was a shy, nervous little lad. All that paddling in the Middle School would have made a man of him and readied him to fight off the amorous lady teachers in the High School! </div>
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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

The figures for individual school districts in Florida are
available, and naturally they show big differences between one
district and another. Dade County, the largest and the most
Hispanic, records very little c.p., as you can well believe. Some
small school districts elsewhere in the state compensate with quite
drastic figures.
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wow selma’s public schools are almost completely segregated by race, that is so sad more that 50 years after the civil rights movement and selma’s iconic role in that struggle.
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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

A Selma Christian School not far on the map from the all white Selma Country Club.

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Oct 06, 2017#52
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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November 29, 2008 Southern Poverty Law Center.

Every year since 1965, its student body population has included not a single black student from a community of 20,000 that is 70% black. Every year, that is, until this year….. Last May, the Morgan Academy admitted a 5-year-old black girl into its kindergarten class, marking another milestone in the slow and unsteady progress of the city that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. once called the most segregated in America. To this day Selma remains a hotbed of neo-Confederate activity and racial tensions.

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Oct 18, 2017#53
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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96.3% of Students At This School Were Received Corporal Punishment

By Ethnicity: 96.9% of 586 Black students

By Gender: 100% of 302 females 87.2% of 288 males

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They rank 205 out of 235 schools in Mississippi. They’re more to be pitied than censured.

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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Oct 19, 2017#57
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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Oct 19, 2017#58
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

You could bet your ass literally, students wouldn’t provoke the administrators for pointing out their inconsistencies. The lassies from TWP would call that being sassy.

Their river may be the longest but that young lady wrote was a Mississippi essay.

Survey year 2013 correction is in order. Why? 105% of the girls were paddled at Yazoo City High School. That possibly could mean that at the time it was calculated there were different numbers of students and not because the administration is math challenged.

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Two years (Survey 2011) rates are not eyebrow raising. Perhaps there was a crack down or a mass paddling in 2013. Their 2013 ISS rates are nothing to be proud but typically more males than females were suspended. They didn’t fill out the form obviously in 2009.
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The student population dropped precipitously in just two years. Who wouldn’t want to look for another school?

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May 5, 2016. Would Malika Sneed prefer being paddled?

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

yeah that was a fairly offensive minstrel show he put on
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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

The figures for individual school districts in Florida are
available, and naturally they show big differences between one
district and another. Dade County, the largest and the most
Hispanic, records very little c.p., as you can well believe. Some
small school districts elsewhere in the state compensate with quite
drastic figures.
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A_L here is a clarification. Renee, et. al., had zero tolerance to sassiness, however, the over-usage of that word is due to a person who is now deceased, both as himself and the the woman that he purported to be. Even a cursory search of the estimable Forum should put to rest anyone who may believe that the two are not one and the same.
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Oct 21, 2017#62
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

The figures for individual school districts in Florida are
available, and naturally they show big differences between one
district and another. Dade County, the largest and the most
Hispanic, records very little c.p., as you can well believe. Some
small school districts elsewhere in the state compensate with quite
drastic figures.
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my main issue with his portrait of debbie, was that he used her race as a defense of her alleged activities. essentially arguing that her activities were acceptable because she was black and it was her culture to paddle children and that criticizing her was an attack on that culture. this would be a dubious position for an african american to take and a rather offensive one for a (presumably) white man to affect.
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Oct 21, 2017#64
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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Oct 21, 2017#65
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

Well he most definitely was white and I am as certain as I can be that the person who inspired Debbie123 was black. You say that he argued that Debbie123’s activities were acceptable because she was black and it was her culture to paddle children and that criticizing her was an attack on that culture. I don’t entirely agree, but your contention certainly has some merit so let us suppose that you are correct. If so, you say of this:

Hmm, am I not correct in believing that corporal punishment of youngsters does feature rather more in African American culture than in white culture? Indeed, to the extent that one might legitimately argue that in parts of the South it could be considered part of African American culture whereas one would not do so in the case of other ethnic groups in the area.

If that is indeed the case then I fear we have yet another transatlantic misunderstanding. The contention that cultural beliefs constitute justification for otherwise unacceptable or undesirable activities and that criticising those who practise such activities constitutes an attack on the culture per se is wide-spread over here. Until very recently it was absolutely mandatory if employed in Local Government (which over here is responsible for most official interaction with the populace) in areas where there are substantial populations with cultural traditions from outside the UK. It was also widely held as an article of faith by those of certain political persuasions, though not mine I’m happy to say. It was accepted as an element of what is sometimes termed political correctness. Sadly I am extremely politically incorrect!

I would certainly have expected the writer of the Debbie123 posts to adhere to that opinion in view of his nationality, ethnicity, and what I knew of his general philosophy. I am surprised ro find that you think, at the time the posts were written, that in the US it would have been a dubious position for an African American to take and an offensive one for a white man. That was certainly not the position over here. But far more important, are you absolutely sure that opinion amongst the African American population (Debbie123 was being presented as an African American) in Mississippi would not have supported the attitude that you criticise Debbie123’s author for?</div>
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Oct 21, 2017#66
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

The figures for individual school districts in Florida are
available, and naturally they show big differences between one
district and another. Dade County, the largest and the most
Hispanic, records very little c.p., as you can well believe. Some
small school districts elsewhere in the state compensate with quite
drastic figures.
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I’m aware that any fetish-related site (if indeed this is one) is rife with sock puppets, people assuming personas of the opposite sex, etc. So given that he’s deceased can you tell me who exactly was purporting to be Debbie123? And are there any others like him/her still posting today? I must admit I rather enjoyed the Dr. Dominum/ Mrs Beale-Buss saga even though I came to the conclusion most of it was fantasy based on a seed of reality.
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Oct 21, 2017#67
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

You wrote:

Alas I can no longer bring myself to type the pseudonym concerned. Repressed grief at the loss of such an excellent opponent in an argument I think. Really argumentative people are so very few here. But you surely can’t have missed all the previous posts by myself and others giving exactly the information you request, and even if you did I am absolutely confident from your contributions that you are more than capable of quickly working it out.

You also asked:

In my opinion, none of that calibre as regards persistent deception. The odd female impersonator possibly. These days we have rather fewer contributors than we used to have and much less argumentative discussion. Now I wouldn’t try to prove a deception unless I felt it was being used to damage the Forum in some way. Thus I don’t take the interest in fakes, sock puppets etc. that I did in the days when they were widely used to support one side or the other in areas of disagreement. I liked an argument, but not an argument where the vast hordes apparently opposing me were actually only two or three people!

You mention Doctor Dominum. In my opinion he was one of the most literate, well informed and interesting contributors to write here. That some of what he wrote was apparently not the absolute truth at the time he wrote it is now immaterial as far as I am concerned. I personally think that he contributed much of value to the Forum.</div>
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Oct 23, 2017#68
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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Mar 10, 2018#69
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

Near that era there was a cartoon of a young lady looking at her draconian choices as she enters the principal’s office. It came from a Google Archive Florida newspaper I believe. It would be wonderful at that cartoon could be shared here or to give a link that lurks somewhere in the search index. A_L I haven’t asked many favors of late.

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Cortland Standard NY, August 28, 1972.

While corporal punishment is viewed by some as a “protection” for teachers, the ironic fact is that it is most often used against younger students, not high schoolers, who are certainly more a physical threat. One teacher, pointing up the basic unfairness, commented: “You can’t corporally punish a dude that’s six-foot-five. So you can’t punish somebody that’s four foot-two and weighs 98 pounds.” A principal told the task force: “When I found that I hit smaller kids harder than bigger kids. I realized I’d better stop hitting any kids.”

Although some parents say they favor corporal punishment in schools, the task force believes it likely that they are unaware of, or don’t want to be inconvenienced by involvement in, more complex methods of discipline. When students themselves prefer being hit, the underlying reasons may be even more disturbing — they may be trying to prove their toughness, find relief from hidden guilts, or justify their own violence.

The rationalization that school children are struck infrequently and as a last resort is also squelched by the task force, which declares that “a little of a useless and often harmful thing is no more justifiable than a great deal of it.” Indeed, if whacks actually cause lasting improvement in behavior, why aren’t they a good “first resort”? And, physical punishment may be considerably more’ common than many people believe — Dallas schools, for example, showed an average of more than 2.000 reported incidents per month in 1971-72.

Hello American Way,

You said above:

Your every wish is my command, especially as you haven’t complained about my occasional little jokes in your threads recently. And so here it is:

I hope that’s the one you were thinking of. It is to be found in the second link in your contribution here .

One teacher, pointing up the basic unfairness, commented: “You can’t corporally punish a dude that’s six-foot-five. So you can’t punish somebody that’s four foot-two and weighs 98 pounds.” A principal told the task force: “When I found that I hit smaller kids harder than bigger kids. I realized I’d better stop hitting any kids.”

This teacher is badly misinformed or has seriously misunderstood.

School CP is not or at least should not be just teachers fighting with their students with the physically powerful prevailing. The teacher has legitimate authority and the right and duty to use that authority including, where appropriate, corporal punishment. The teacher has or should have the full weight of custom, school officials, parents, society and the law behind them. The alternative is anarchy and chaos.
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Mar 10, 2018#71
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

What one teacher feels is one matter but a principal? If a paddle cannot be swung without gradations by someone that paddles presumably scores of students, then why doesn’t he or she find someone that can or use two paddles? Someone who doesn’t want children paddled is raising silly reasons to bolster their POV if you ask me.
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Mar 10, 2018#72
The statistics were collected for the Office of Civil Rights of
the U.S. Department of Education. They were collected every two
years, as similar ones still are. They were part of a survey
originally intended to monitor various school activities and special
needs from the point of view of racial discrimination, under Title
VI, but in the mid-1970s this was extended under Title IX to cover
sexual discrimination. Accordingly, from 1978 onwards school
disciplinary practices and so on were recorded separately for boys
and girls. There is no secret about the results — they are public
knowledge, available in various major libraries.

1. Florida 185,144 students got c.p. out of 1,513,285 enrolled,
which > 12.2% divided M 77% / F 23%

2. Arkansas 52,182 out of 442,294 > 11.8% divd. M 78% / F 22%

3. Mississippi 53,388 ” ” 487,473 > 10.95% ” M 76% / F 24%

4. Georgia 101,980 ” ” 1,067,669 > 9.6% ” M 79% / F 21%

5. Tennessee 81,747 ” ” 863,530 > 9.5% ” M 78% / F 22%

6. Oklahoma 50,272 ” ” 539,639 > 9.3% ” M 79% / F 21%

7. Texas 253,343 ” ” 2,808,985 > 9.0% ” M 82% / F 18%

8. Alabama 58,651 ” ” 761,928 > 7.7% ” M 81% / F 19%

9= Kentucky 40,999 ” ” 686,357 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

9= Sth Carolina 38,446 ” ” 638,574 > 6.0% ” M 80% / F 20%

11. New Mexico 15,929 ” ” 273,568 > 5.8% ” M 78% / F 22%

12. Ohio 108,607 ” ” 2,063,951 > 5.3% ” M 84% / F 16%

13. Nth Carolina 60,489 ” ” 1,170,311 > 5.2% ” M 82% / F 18%

14= Indiana 53,045 ” ” 1,108,976 > 4.8% ” M 85% / F 15%

14= W Virginia 18,953 ” ” 397,620 > 4.8% ” M 82% / F 18%

16. Louisiana 38,705 ” ” 817,226 > 4.7% ” M 83% / F 17%

17. Missouri 33,615 ” ” 883,665 > 3.8% ” M 80% / F 20%

Boys first, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 141,661 boys paddled out of 775,374 enrolled, > 18.2%

2. Arkansas 40,492 ” ” ” ” 226,590 ” > 17.9%

3. Mississippi 40,628 ” ” ” ” 249,626 ” > 16.3%

4. Georgia 80,877 ” ” ” ” 547,272 ” > 14.8%

5. Texas 207,625 ” ” ” ” 1,443,825 ” > 14.4%

6. Tennessee 63,526 ” ” ” ” 443,729 ” > 14.3%

7. Oklahoma 39,501 ” ” ” ” 277,760 ” > 14.2%

8. Alabama 47,352 ” ” ” ” 392,624 ” > 12.1%

9. Sth Carolina 30,927 ” ” ” ” 328,500 ” > 9.4%

10.Kentucky 32,906 ” ” ” ” 351,921 ” > 9.3%

And for girls, “top ten” states:

1. Florida 43,483 girls paddled out of 737,911 enrolled > 5.9%

2. Arkansas 11,690 ” ” ” ” 215,704 ” > 5.4%

3. Mississippi 12,760 ” ” ” ” 237,847 ” > 5.36%

4. Tennessee 18,221 ” ” ” ” 419,801 ” > 4.3%

5. Oklahoma 10,771 ” ” ” ” 261,879 ” > 4.1%

6. Georgia 21,103 ” ” ” ” 520,397 ” > 4.06%

7. Texas 45,718 ” ” ” ” 1,365,160 ” > 3.3%

8. Alabama 11,299 ” ” ” ” 369,304 ” > 3.1%

9= Kentucky 8,093 ” ” ” ” 334,436 ” > 2.4%

9= Sth Carolina 7,519 ” ” ” ” 310,074 ” > 2.4%

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Apr 29, 2018#73
Booneville High School AR paddled approximately 50 boys and 10 girls for just under 300 students 2015. Over a four year period your chances of being paddle, of course, is greater. One out of three days or a student is paddled. The 2015 rate is significantly higher that 20011 and 2013

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=512 … 8&pid=2555

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=512 … 8&pid=2342

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=512 … 8&pid=2333

Springtown, Texas has avoided the spotlight since their man paddling girl brouhaha.

http://www.weatherforddemocrat.com/news … c4a8a.html

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=221 … =6&pid=800

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=221 … 7&pid=2072

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=221 … 8&pid=2555

Oxford, Alabama, of the prom paddling fame, had lowered their rate significantly with the passage of time.

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=221 … =5&pid=434

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=274 … 8&pid=2275

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=274 … 8&pid=2555
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Apr 30, 2018#74
Early statistical details of the use of corporal punishment

Washington DC Evening Star February 9, 1874

…….cases in 1870 ’71 reached 649. This use of the rod was so careless, to use no stronger term, that it called forth the following remonstrance from the Superintendent, who in his report for that year, page 35, says: “It is the wish and determination of the beard to enforce a strict observance of its rule upon the subject, which requires of all teachers the avoidance of corporal punishment as far as may be, with a due regard to the necessity of obedience on the part of the pupil; and the monthly report of the teacher who has no case of corporal punishment to return gives the most satisfaction.” The effect of this protest was a depression in the number of cases from 649 down to 327, and it was reasonably expected that this depression would continue, but such did not prove to be the case. Last year the number increased to 429, showing such a degree of vitality in the rod that the attention of the teachers is again called to the protest of the Superintendent; and your committee express their earnest desire that the teachers shall make a special effort to carry forward the great cause committed to their care—the education of the children—combining discretion with firmness, and exercising their duties in the kindly spirit of the counsellor, the guide, and the friend. Your committee do not deem it within their province to present any argument in behalf of an entire suppression of corporal punishment, the Board being fully competent to take such action as may be wise and prudent upon this vital subject.

http://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/hi … Page=false
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May 24, 2018#75
From Education Week andThe Education Week Research CenterCorporal Punishment: A Persistent PracticeCorporal Punishment Found in Schools in 21 States

http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2016/ … ls-in.html

Is Corporal Punishment an Option in YourState?

http://www.edweek.org/ew/section/multim … hment.html

https://www.edweek.org/media/161024presentation.pdf
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May 26, 2018#76
A picture tells a thousand lies. Waxahachie High School claims to have never paddle a student in the last ten years. Here is a picture from 2013 showing how Texans handle tardies. Their secretarial pool must be leaving portions of their OCR forms blank. They certainly can afford tardy slips. They deserve a trip to the office of a Publisher/Expert principal’s office. Liar – Liar – Pants on Fire.

https://www.google.com/search?q=corpun+ … 1GOHhYFgvM:
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May 26, 2018#77
Waxahachie High has 2,000 students with none paddled from 2009 – 2011 – 2013 – 2015 OCR statistics though it is permissible, I.e. to paddle but not to lie. Everything is bigger in Texas, including this whopper and I don’t mean McDonalds.

A picture doesn’t mean it is used. It might just be a deterrent that sends shivers down their young spines. Me thinks it the school that are big liars.
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Jun 02, 2018#78
There were close to three hundred incidences in Dumas High School Texas of paddling.

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=232 … 8&pid=2555

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=232 … 8&pid=2342

Coach Dunnam.

“Win without bragging, lose without excuse.”

http://www.moorecountyjournal.net/were- … and-women/

It was a bit of a mismatch for poor Evelyn. She was just one out of the five girls paddled in that high school.

https://schoolswats.files.wordpress.com … =389&h=255

http://highplainsobserverdumas.com/clie … 300195.jpg

https://m.facebook.com/evelyn.ibarra109

Promoted.

http://www.newschannel10.com/story/3732 … ball-coach
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Jun 02, 2018#79
Hello American way,

I have gently chided you before for not linking your sources! This is an academically inclined research based Forum (or at least it is when that Another_Lurker fellow isn’t indulging in wild flights of fancy about imaginary JCP and paddle wielding female teachers and whatnot ) and source details are important!

I am looking at the bona fides of https://schoolswats.wordpress.com/ where you appear to have sourced recent posts in various threads, but certainly on initial inspection it appears to be genuine. So many swats delivered to the bottoms of pretty girls by male principals, teachers and coaches! One is reminded of the old joke ending “What! And they expect to get paid as well?”.
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Jun 03, 2018#80
i literally think it would be just to burn those rapist abominations alive… or break them on the wheel
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Jun 03, 2018#81
Hello Dane,

We are probably all aware of your feelings regarding SCP and I hope that most of us respect them. I certainly do.

I have to say though that the violence in some of your contributions is a little disturbing.

This is an SCP Forum. If you were suggest that paddling principals, coaches etc. should be required to drop their trousers and bend over to be swatted hard and at some length by an eager queue of those young ladies they have paddled I fail to see how there could be the slightest objection.

However suggesting burning alive or breaking on the wheel is certainly contrary to Section 14.(v).(b) of Tapatalk’s Terms of Use and, theoretically at least could get you banned or, worse still, the Forum closed down.

Think on’t please.
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Jun 03, 2018#82
i would argue that i’m not actually suggesting it should be done, but merely that it would be a just act… in the end i believe in erring on the side of mercy over justice
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Jun 03, 2018#83
The following handbook is from Cornersville High School in Cornersville, Tennessee. According to their handbook a student at this school may choose to be spanked for three consecutive days after their first set of tardies. After their second set of tardies a student can choose to be spanked four days in a row and after their fifth set of tardies a student can choose to be spanked for five straight days.

In 2009 37.5% of the boys and 28.2% of the girls were paddled. Things improved with only 50 incidences of corporal punishment with a student body of 100 students per year in 2015 with only 20.4% of the boys and a mere 2.7% of the girls. Maybe the paddle had a more deterrent effect or the parents protected their daughters from corporal punishment.

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=248 … =5&pid=434

2015

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=248 … 8&pid=2555

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=248 … 8&pid=2342

Handbook. 15 swats from Monday to Friday.

Page 9.

The consequences are as follows:

1st set: 3 early morning/afternoon detentions or 3 corporal punishments 2nd set: 4 early morning/afternoon detentions or 4 corporal punishments 3rd set: 5 early morning/afternoon detentions or 5 corporal punishments 4th set: three days suspended from school 5th set: five days suspended from school.

Page 16 is rather subjective when it comes to corporal punishment.
The nature of the punishment will be such that it is in proportion to the gravity of the offense, the apparent motive and
disposition of the offender, and the influence of the offender’s example and conduct on others .
Page 17.
(If used to a staff member, Mr. Adcox will administer appropriate punishment).

http://cvhs.marshall.k12tn.net/handbook … 7-2018.pdf

Brent Adcox

http://cvhs.marshall.k12tn.net/faculty/ … ation.html
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Jun 03, 2018#84
Only one out of five principals would inflict the paddle on a student four or more times per school year.

I quoted this source before but in this context I thought it was well worth repeating. 15 swats might be a theoretical situation. So called surprising “twitter evidence” indicates three over three days or 9 swats are occurring much to the dread of the student.

Exhibit 18, page 31.

http://www.comptroller.tn.gov/Repositor … shment.pdf

Anecdotal tweets from this mother lode of corporal punishment sourced release right after the paddling of the Arkansas walkout protester from March.

Shocking Tweets From USA High School Students Reveal They Are Still Being Paddled at School.

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Jun 03, 2018#85
Better late than never! A_L Do I have to do all your work and leave no research for you.

Look at the entry BEFORE your reference. There it is clearly marked school swats word press.

It was a bit of a mismatch for poor Evelyn. She was just one out of the five girls paddled in that high school.

Shocking Tweets From USA High School Students Reveal They Are Still Being Paddled at School.

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Sep 09, 2018#86
I am certain that during my school years in the 1940’s and 50’s that few if any records were kept. You could receive it anywhere. Home, going to school, at school including the playground, going home from school, at church, at another persons home. My dad, uncle and their friends sometimes would fondly / jokingly ? talk about how many bottoms they had warmed and the reactions of the recipients. I wlll give more details later..
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Sep 09, 2018#87
CathyG wrote:
I am certain that during my school years in the 1940’s and 50’s that few if any records were kept. You could receive it anywhere. Home, going to school, at school including the playground, going home from school, at church, at another persons home. My dad, uncle and their friends sometimes would fondly / jokingly ? talk about how many bottoms they had warmed and the reactions of the recipients. I wlll give more details later..
hard to find records for the 70’s too
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Sep 09, 2018#88
Also add the fact that our county was home of a very fundamental style of Baptist, they would have probably altered any such records then.
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Sep 10, 2018#89
i would strongly suspect the very limited cp that occurred while i was in grade school was not formally recorded at all
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Sep 10, 2018#90
dane wrote:
i would strongly suspect the very limited cp that occurred while i was in grade school was not formally recorded at all
The only place it was recorded at my school in my day is in the minds of the administrators who sometimes recalled doling it out at gatherings.
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Nov 05, 2018#91
Record of corporal punishment apples. One jackass to one New England schoolmaster. It is an interesting method of calculation and perhaps the earliest. It brings new meaning to the adage, “liars figure and figures lie.”

February 12, 1829.

http://nyshistoricnewspapers.org/lccn/s … 57%2C5777/
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Nov 06, 2018#92
http://www.waxahachietx.com/news/201811 … ent-policy i thought this article was interesting because it talked about the number of parents who opted out. this is sometimes portrayed as a very small minority of parents but at least in these texas schools that doesn’t seem to be the case
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Nov 07, 2018#93
Hello dane,

A most interesting article, and as you note in the instances where figures were given a very high percentage of parents prohibited SCP.

Times were different then, but when the prohibition of SCP was hanging in the balance in UK state schools at one stage there was a proposal that if parents were given the option to opt their children out this might circumvent the mounting pressures for a total ban.

Many school Heads opposed this suggested measure, saying it would be unworkable. A curious stance, since in many schools there was already an official exemption for a substantial proportion of pupils as quite often boys were subject to SCP but girls weren’t. In addition schools often had unofficial and relatively secret ‘no SCP’ lists where school staff themselves decided that particular pupils were best exempted from SCP for reasons of health or psychological disposition.

Indeed, on reflection in later life I have often suspected that I may have benefited from being on just such a list in my early years at my secondary school. A rather shy and nervous little lad with what at the time was severe asthma, I totally escaped SCP there.

This at a school where the Prefects wielded the cane for relatively trivial offences, a proportion of Masters whacked in class and most boys encountered SCP of some sort in their first few years. However the nearest I came was in the first year when for a now forgotten classroom misdemeanor I found myself bent over touching my toes awaiting the impact of the Form Master’s size 12 leather soled sandal on the seat of my short trousers. It never came and after a brief interval I was sent back to my desk.

Not the usual outcome at all. In every other case I remember the sandal did its job and usually even 12 year boys evinced a tear or two. No explanation of my escape was given and I certainly didn’t ask for one! In retrospect I wonder if something in my demeanor stayed the sandal and gained me an exemption from SCP thereafter. Nobody told me that though, and I was still mighty nervous when I saw the cane prominently displayed on the table of the Prefects’ Court!
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Nov 07, 2018#94
Hello American Way,

In the UK the adage you quote is generally presented as:

‘Figures don’t lie but liars do figure.’

The explanations of its implications are many and varied, and far too complex for discussion here. ????
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Nov 07, 2018#95
I know exactly why that happened and it is entirely Tapatalk’s fault!

Could I please request the Management Team to remove the first of the above near duplicate posts if possible please.
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Nov 07, 2018#96
Thank you Management Team,

Your unfailing courtesy and helpfulness is greatly appreciated!
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Nov 12, 2018#97
When incidences of corporal punishment are calculated it must mean separate spankings.

491 incidences in a school of only 204 students at Floydada High School in Texas.

Every two hours someone is getting paddled. No dust gathering on that paddle.

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=232 … 8&pid=2555

67.4% of the boys and 37.5 % of the girls were paddled.

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=232 … 8&pid=2342

This would indicate that 104 were paddled in a school or half were paddled and half were spared

https://projects.propublica.org/miseduc … 1944001802
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Nov 15, 2018#98
Page 32 provided for me a surprise. Arkansas had a considerably higher rate of paddling than MS and Alabama back in the mid eighties.

https://archive.org/details/TheCorporal … s/page/n33
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Nov 16, 2018#99
One has to ask the question at some point not only whether these statistics are reliably reported or accurately compiled be published in the first place? The question no one seems to asks is how many dollars and how much time is taken from matters that would be more worthwhile spent?

While the state and local communities taxes payed. The forms have grown more complicated with delineation due to economic class (determine by free lunches) and disabilities. It started with race and gender. It’s called mission creep.

All this is compliments o Office Civil Rights aka USA taxpayers.

No wonder taxpayers say Washington’a motto is, “Never Kill a Job.” That’s DC and not George Washington. ????

https://www.ewa.org/webinar/mining-fede … al-stories
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Nov 17, 2018#100
paying 5000 dollars for a coffee cup= government waste… compiling in depth information on what is going on in american public schools = seems like a worthwhile use of resources
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Nov 17, 2018#101
The continuing use of the paddle in the more southern states and virtually none of the more northern states just illustrated the vastness of the USA compared to the UK. I am sure that there are many other differences and cultures throughout the US too. Even when CP was used in UK schools for a man to hit a mid teen girl across the bottom was certainly unusual and not allowed in most parts of the UK. I think it is true to say that the US is one of the very few countries of the western world to still use SCP.

Although SCP is totally banned in UK schools now when it was allowed it was used in all areas of the UK, Some schools used it much more than others of course and some not at all. Scotland used the tawse whereas most English schools used the cane, a few English areas used the tawse or a strap in schools but not many.

All this does make me wonder if there are many US families that still use CP as family discipline. I recognise that there are many different cultures and races throughout the US and also more so in the UK in more recent years.
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Nov 17, 2018#102
Hello six of the best,

You wrote above:
All this does make me wonder if there are many US families that still use CP as family discipline. I recognise that there are many different cultures and races throughout the US
Various past contributors here have confirmed that in general in those areas of the US where SCP finds favour with the local population domestic CP of children also tends to be common. ‘Paddled at school; paddled at home’ was a phrase often heard in this context.

Due to what seems, to me at least, a substantial imbalance in the fairness of the US judicial system, certain sections of the population, in particular the black community, fear far more than others for the consequences of social misbehaviour by their children, and thus tend to correct them more strongly if they are seen to have erred . With relatively few exceptions the areas still supporting SCP in schools are areas with a high proportion of black families.

You also wrote:
I think it is true to say that the US is one of the very few countries of the western world to still use SCP.
I think you are correct.

The Global Initiative to End All Corporal Punishment of Children is a good guide to the current state of play in this area. Part way down their page here is a world map on which individual countries can be clicked to see the current status of juvenile corporal punishment legislation therein Unfortunately I can’t link direct to the map as my scrutiny has failed to reveal a page anchor in the script.

As you will see there are various countries most definitely in the West which are not clean and green on juvenile CP, the US and the UK included. However as regards proper abolition specifically of SCP it is perhaps surprising to find:

France: Prohibition is still to be achieved in the home, alternative care settings, day care, schools and penal institutions.

That is not to suggest that our neighbours across La Manche still use SCP, just that they apparently still could.

Another_Lurker – never miss a chance for a dig at a major member of the EU! ????
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Nov 18, 2018#103
Switzerland has its ways of maintaining its independence from outside influence. A child cannot tell a teacher you can’t touch me under their present arrangement. Good for them!

The Swiss have a mind of their own!

https://endcorporalpunishment.org/repor … itzerland/

The Swiss have a mind of their own!

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/201 … till-1971/

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Nov 18, 2018#104
Non-interactive map posted by A_L. N.B. Switzerland.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKE7RW-W4AYEJVg.png
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Nov 18, 2018#105
african americans are more subject to school cp in areas that use scp but i’m not at all sure there correlation between african american populations and cp. many southern cities are high majority african american and yet they almost universally do not have school corporal punishment in those districts in the very states with the highest rates of paddling. i think it relates more to areas black or white that have extremely traditional/socially conservative southern culture, generally rural areas and small towns.
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Nov 18, 2018#106
“A child cannot tell a teacher you can’t touch me under their present arrangement.” that doesn’t seem to be true as it relates of scp, that article says that scp is universally banned in switzerland just in a sort of vague piece meal sort of way but it does not imply that any school corporal punishment actually takes place… though i would assume teachers there as in almost everywhere can physically restrain students to keep them from harming themselves or others
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Nov 18, 2018#107
Hello American Way,

Well yes, Switzerland is a bit backward too. However while they may be in the West they are very sensibly not in the EU! ????

A teeny little correction if I may please. I didn’t post the non-interactive map, I posted a link to the page containing the fully interactive map. At our old home Network54, which permitted a subset of both HTML and in-line CSS, I could possibly have posted just the fully interactive map after considerable effort. However it would have been rather naughty to do so as I would have been ripping off some of the code from the Global Initiative to End All Corporal Punishment of Children page. At Tapatalk, which permits only BB code, the task was clearly impossible so I didn’t even contemplate it.

Are you able, please, to confirm the assertion often made by our former contributor Debbie112 (who definitely was knowledgeable about the Southern USA but definitely wasn’t a hard paddling black female assistant principal in a Mississippi High School) that black families in the Southern USA quite often tend to favour corporal punishment when punishing their children and often support its use in schools? I am aware that quite a lot of the, ahem, ‘redneck’ element of the white population possibly share this tendency.

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Nov 18, 2018#108
Hello dane,

Oops, sorry, hadn’t seen your above two contributions when I posted #107. Your opinion on the black population of the US and CP of children may differ somewhat from that of our former contributor under several guises and master sock-puppet manipulator.

You are I think quite correct that, just as in France, there is no actual SCP in Switzerland. After all Kim Jong-un went to school there and surely he wouldn’t have been exposed to the risk of SCP! ???? However like France Switzerland appears not to have banned SCP to the high legislative standard set by the Global Initiative to End All Corporal Punishment of Children.
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Nov 18, 2018#109
A_L it was thanks to the link provided that I was able to post what I did about Switzerland. I have posted quite a bit about that country’s policy already.

The non-interactive map was for the convenience that did not want to follow that link.

The most contemporaneous source of racial attitudes at home or at school can be found by searching Dr Stacey Patten.
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Nov 18, 2018#110
Hello American Way,

Nice one! I don’t know how you did it but you’ve made me realise that we can change font family:

Instead of boring old sans-serif something or other we can have a default serifed font instead like this.

Or even, for those with Windoze or a good font collection, good old comic sans ms, the world’s most hated font – allegedly!

Century Bold is usually quite nice.

Ink free anybody, for the odd informal post!

Arial black is always good for making an impression.

For anyone interested in seeing their contributions in their favourite font here’s how it’s done:
CODE: SELECT ALL

[font=serif]blah blah blah[/font]
will give you a default serifed font instead of the default sans serif
CODE: SELECT ALL

[font=name of your favourite font]blah blah blah[/font]
will enable you to see your post in your favourite font if you have that font on your system. But remember that those people who haven’t got the font will just see a default sans serif or serifed font.
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Nov 21, 2018#111
Renee Wade, a registered nurse in DeSoto County, told ProPublica that her son, who is about to enter ninth grade, has received corporal punishment more than 10 times over the past seven years for conduct such as acting out in class. These behaviors are associated with his attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, for which he has an individualized education program that doesn’t include physical beatings. Even though Wade could exempt her son from being paddled under district policy, the alternative is typically suspension, which she felt wasn’t a practical option. Wade and her husband have full-time jobs and can’t care for their son if he’s home during the working day. “If the school can’t use corporal punishment, then they get suspended,” said Wade, who is African-American. “If you work, then this is not a possibility. I feel as a parent I have no other choice.”

https://ctmirror.org/2018/06/24/devos-s … ts-probes/

852 Students Who Received Corporal Punishment 3% of all students in this district.

https://projects.propublica.org/miseduc … ct/2801320
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Nov 24, 2018#112
I wonder what percentage of readers of this New York Times article in 1990 that almost three decades later students would still be subject to the paddle?

https://www.nytimes.com/1990/08/16/us/m … -rest.html
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Nov 27, 2018#113
New Hampshire and Maine are included in those states allowing corporal punishment. They are usually categorized as states that ban school paddling. Residents of these states are noted for being libertarians. They bristle when it comes to any outside entity establishing rules over them.

22 states are a higher number than generally mentioned.

https://www2.ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/sch … p-1200.png
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Dec 18, 2018#114
Paddling in Attala County MS is the most popular of disciplinary sanction.

110 of the 277 students were paddled.

https://projects.propublica.org/miseduc … ct/2800510

This would indicate that students needed more than one trip to the principal’s office.

The 110 high school students needed 293 spankings to settle their offenses. There were fifteen OSS and two expulsions.

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=255 … 8&pid=2555

Long Creek Attendance Center. Only three out four girls and one out of three boys were not paddled in the course of a year. I doubt if many parents opt out of whoopings.

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=255 … 8&pid=2342

I hope this is her after school attire!

https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/ … e=5C9860C2

I doubt many opt out of a whooping as allowed on page thirty one.

You can see by page seven why there are so many spankings and so few suspensions.

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Dec 29, 2018#115
With 55 or son students in a class and only a few girls paddled there is a high probability if you’re a boy you will be spanked and perhaps more than once!

While the years don’t match I will assume the more detailed with the high number is correct.

We don’t usually have statistics broken down by age or grade within a particular school, but we do for school year

2013/14 in the case of Reagan County High School in Texas:

9th grade (age c.15) — 26 students received 37 paddlings

10th grade (age c.16) — 34 students received 50 paddlings

11th grade (age c.17) — 24 students received 40 paddlings

12th grade (age c.18) — 30 students received 40 paddlings.

2015

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=517 … 8&pid=2555
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Jan 02, 2019#116
Capricious paddling I believe occurs for the wording in student handbooks are such they give schools a way of justifying their use of corporal punishment. Again, this may reflect the proclivities of youth when it comes to embellishments but these are not thee only accounts.

Her behavior could been the last straw. It gives new meaning to putting a lid on it. What a way to start the first week of school. Scroll down to August 2015 to read what she claims she was paddled for.

With a school of 149 students a certain familiarity exists between teacher and student. Not a word about corporal punishment in the handbook but OCR stats indicate 6% of the girls and 9% of the boys were paddled in 2015 when she was a 17-year-old.

Farwell TX borders New Mexico that is the state that most recently banned paddling.

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/Page?t=s&eid=514 … 8&pid=2342

A peek into their school life. It seems so similar to any school in the USA except most schools haven’t paddled in decades.

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Apr 27, 2019#117
Tina Bojanowski was a 15-year-old dress in her cheerleaders uniform when she picked the picket paddle.

Bojanowski’s reminiscence was made greater than 30 years in the past, but in a handful of states — together with Kentucky — it appears the instances haven’t modified. Now a member of the state legislature, Rep. Tina Bojanowski (D), is supporting a invoice to ban the apply.

As a 10th-grader in Jefferson County, Ky., Tina was caught reducing the lunch line.

She can be disciplined, a college official advised her, however he gave her a selection: detention or two “licks,” a sugarcoated time period for 2 strikes with a picket paddle.

A male school member introduced the teenager, who was wearing a cheerleading uniform, into an workplace and spanked her backside with a paddle.

Now a member of the state legislature, Rep. Tina Bojanowski (D), is supporting a invoice to ban the apply.

https://www.thecoolpress.com/2019/03/01 … to-ban-it/

The last link didn’t take in account the paddling record that Clinton County achieved in the latest year.

https://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/t … /any/11094

https://www.kentucky.com/news/local/edu … 80414.html
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Apr 27, 2019#118
Hello American Way,

Coolpress should stop using Google Translate or something similar and get itself a proper human translator!

Coolpress: Paddling college students remains to be authorized in a 3rd of the nation.
Correct translation: Paddling students is still legal in a third of the country.

and so on!

Why not read the original article in some semblance of English on The Washington Post website here

Or if that doesn’t work for you, use this link and select the ‘just one free look’ option.

Ms Bojanowski today (just click the photo), 30 years on from those two swats in her cheerleader uniform administered by a male school official. for jumping the lunch queue.
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May 08, 2019#119
What’s so shocking about school spankings of older girls? Men don’t hold positions of authority in lower grades so are not expected to administer swats. Principals and VP are very often men with post graduate degrees qualified to administer swats. Girls that do get paddle for spend too much time going from one class Perhaps preening or talking. It may not be a gender neutral offense but sure is disruptive! Those available to witness in the office are far more likely to be women than men. The accounts rarely mentioned witnesses so it must be presumed.

With over 109,000 paddled and a good portion of them under young ladies why should it be shocking. It isn’t surprising to students in 4,000 schools. Perhaps the demographics explain why it may be shocking given the diversity of the USA population. These tweets were culled by someone with a non-academic interests and proffered by an anti-SCP zealot, Dr Stacey Patten.

I do believe the paddling of that girl in the office surreptitiously taken is what occurs in school offices and that is not a smile. Perhaps someone should post the picture here rather than making it available by a passive link. In all likelihood she is being spanked by a woman and not behind closed doors but out of sight of the student body. I don’t think she would have access to pose such a picture in an occupied school office. This was not a yearbook picture. This IMHO a corrective paddling.
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May 08, 2019#120
This is the best statistical analysis I have found online.

https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2016 … ls-in.html
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Aug 02, 2019#121
Who gets nine swats? The bottom line is anybody’s bottom considering the flexibility of the code of conduct. Tap Campus Discipline Plan. In spite of national attention they never make changes. Why? Perhaps because many of their teachers are graduates. Why should we not pass down what worked for us just to be like the other schools could be their rationale.

“This discipline plan is a general guideline followed by the faculty and staff. It should be understood that each incident of misbehavior will be judged based on severity and number of occurrences. The principal or assistant principal will use his/her professional judgment and discretion to determine what type of discipline is necessary to maintain a safe and orderly environment for all students to succeed. It should also be noted that, if deemed necessary by the principal, assistant principal,or teacher, a student may advance to a latter step in the discipline plan without observing earlier steps. Additional forms of discipline, listed in the JNHS Student Code of Conduct, may also be employed.”

http://schools.jimned.esc14.net/page/ChrisHolson-Home1

It makes we wonder why so few are paddled. Either they’re not taking good records or scaring the hell out of the students with their antediluvian code.

They may may be following the Solomonic spare the rod spoil the child but they’re sure not dressing like parochial school volleyball players. I hope they’re allowed a change between the gym and the principal’s office if they’re scheduled for one of those three days of swats because of tardiness on game day. Coaches are often teachers so that poor fellow in the picture could be assigned that onerous task.

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2018 … &auto=webp

Parents don’t seem to object for more of the students are spanked than suspended in 2015 – 2016.

Middle school students face the same consequences. Page 27.

http://schools.jimned.esc14.net/upload/ … ndbook.pdf

Students without disabilities who received corporal punishment: 7 (male: 5, female: 2).

Students without disabilities receiving one or more in-school suspension: 4 (male: 2, female: 2).

http://www.city-data.com/school/jim-ned … ol-tx.html
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