Corporal punishment survey
Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):
About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:
Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
About You:
Gender: M
Approximate age when punished: 11
Approximate year of punishment: 1983
Crime committed or alleged: Fruit fight during lunch time
About the punishment:
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Headmistress
Gender of staff member: F
fLocation punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): Headmistress Office
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Cane
Number of strokes: 6
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Hands
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): Caned on the palms of my hands
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): School uniform (blue shirt with tie, grey shorts, grey v-neck jumper, grey knee socks and black leather shoes).
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): One boy and one girl present in the office
About the school :
Name of School: Boronia Park Public School
Country: NSW, Australia
Effectiveness:
Were you ever punished again for the same offence? No
Do you consider the punishment effective? Yes
Any other relevant info:
It was the first time that I received the cane at school and several children were also caned for the incident including my sister. I was caught straight after the fight during lunch and was immediately sent with the other boy and girl (she was in my class and I will not mention her name here) to the Headmistress by the teacher on duty and we had to stand outside her office in the administration block with our hands on our heads and noses to the wall. After a very nervous wait, I remember butterflies and a shaking right knee, during which time the teacher and the headmistress were having a talk about the event we were summoned in and given a good scolding. Our Headmistress told us she was going to give us the cane and she had her cane on her desk, she picked it up and flexed it three times. The other boy was caned first and he received three strokes on each hand. The girl was caned with two on each hand and then I was caned receiving three strokes on each hand. I could see three outlines of where the cane had landed on the palms of my hands after my punishment. We were all sobbing after our punishment and we had to face the wall outside the administration block for the remainder of lunch. After returning to class my friend and another boy were summoned by the headmistress and they were also caned for their part in the fruit fight. The marks were still visible when I went to bed that night and the marks had subsided substantially by the following afternoon. At assembly the following day the Headmistress gave the school a talking too about any future fruit fights and everyone was warned that we would be punished with the cane for any similar incidents in the future.
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david
Nov 29, 2010#152
Corporal punishment survey
Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):
About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:
Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
male
homework not completed
female staff member
infront of 30 class mates
slipper
14 whacks 7 0n each cheek
bottom
over teachers desk
hillcrest grammer school
effectiveness no got a taste for it tried to get into trouble as often as possible this turned into my first sexual experience as i found i`d come in my pants when i got home
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debra a girl in my class was also punished with me for the same offence her grey pleated skirt was placed over her back she got 10 whacks on her navy blue school knickers her bottom wobbled with each stroke
that may have had somethimg to do with my creamed pants
we also had to do gym in our vests and shorts for the boys vests and navy knickers for the girls
i witnessed many canings slipperings spankings rulerings by mostly female teachers i am surethe took a sadistic pleasure in it particularly with the girls perhaps that is why i still get off on school knickers today i can still picture debra`s bottom now
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N.D.
Nov 29, 2010#153
Corporal punishment survey
Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):
About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:
Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
About You:
Gender: M
Approximate age when punished: 12
Approximate year of punishment: 1984
Crime committed or alleged: Misbehaviour during school assembly
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Headmistress
Gender of staff member: F
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): Headmistress Office
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Cane
Number of strokes: 6
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Hands
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): Standing hand outstretched, palm up
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): School uniform
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): Private
About the school :
Name of School: Boronia Park Public School
Country: NSW, Australia
Effectiveness:
Were you ever punished again for the same offence? Yes
Do you consider the punishment effective? Yes
Any other relevant info:
It was the second and final time that I received the cane in primary school. Misbehaviour at assembly was an automatic visit to see the Headmistress and if you visited the Headmistress you were more than likely going to receive the cane. As with the first time she gave me the cane she gave me three strokes on each hand and she followed the same procedure when she had caned me for the fruit fight the year before except that I was sent back to class after my punishment. The palms of my hands had three distinctive cane marks, you could see the red outline of where the cane had landed and your skin was white in between the outline. Many recipients of the cane tried rubbing their hands together before being caned to help to dull the pain; however as with my first caning I had to wait outside the Headmistress office with my hands on my head facing the wall and I was denied this opportunity.
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N.D.
Dec 01, 2010#154
Corporal punishment survey
Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):
About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:
Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
About You:
Gender: M
Approximate age when punished: 12
Approximate year of punishment: 1984
Crime committed or alleged: Being out of my chair without permission
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Teacher
Gender of staff member: M
fLocation punished: Classroom
Type of punishment: Metre Ruler
Number of strokes: 5
Applied to: Bottom
Position adopted: Bending over touching toes
State of dress: School uniform (yellow/brown combination)
Privacy: In front of the class
About the school:
Name of School: Werrington Public School
Country: NSW, Australia
Effectiveness:
Were you ever punished again for the same offence? No
Do you consider the punishment effective? Yes
Any other relevant info:
I was at the school for six months at the end of my primary education, my teacher was a tyrant and teachers would send naughty pupils to him to be caned, he caned them in front of us and he caned regularly. I must have seen nearly 20 canings during my short stay at the school. He also used a metre ruler to punish his pupils and he administered it to his pupils for misbehaviour that was not severe enough to warrant caning. I was whacked with the ruler on one occasion and I had to bend over in front of the class as did girls who he whacked with the ruler. My bottom was stinging afterwards, there were no tears but I was very embarrassed. He also gave a girl (she sat at my desk, again I will not give her name) the ruler a couple of days later. I think he gave the ruler to give you as a warning and if you misbehaved in his class again he would have not have hesitated to cane you. He administered the cane to the hands.
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Dec 02, 2010#155
Corporal punishment survey
Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):
About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:
Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
About You:
Gender: M
Approximate age when punished: 10
Approximate year of punishment: 1956
Crime committed or alleged: Pushing and shoving on walk back to school
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Head
Gender of staff member: M
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): Passageway
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Cane
Number of strokes: 1
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Bottom
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): Bending over
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): Over Trousers
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): private
About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country: UK
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?: N
Do you consider the punishment effective?: N
Any other relevant info:
A number of boys were pushing and I was pushed out of line. It was clearly not my fault but I was given a token stroke
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Dec 02, 2010#156
Corporal punishment survey
Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):
About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:
Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
Batfinch One token stroke at 10. What’s the earliest and how many strokes or swats from poster here? I got the stick on the bottom at 7 in 1957 over the loudspeaker for forgetting to put my name on the paper. It was by the FBI or foreign born Irish sister of no mercy.
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N.D.
Dec 02, 2010#157
Corporal punishment survey
Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):
About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:
Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
About You:
Gender: M
Approximate age when punished: 13
Approximate year of punishment: 1985
Crime committed or alleged: Wagging class (truanting)
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Headmaster
Gender of staff member: M
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): Headmasters Office
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Cane
Number of strokes: 6
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Hand
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): Standing hand outstretched palm up
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): School PE uniform
Privacy My friend present, he was caned
About the school:
Name of School: Cambridge Park
Country: NSW, Australia
Effectiveness:
Were you ever punished again for the same offence? No
Do you consider the punishment effective? Yes
Any other relevant info:
My first secondary school caning had me shaking in my shoes. There was a boy being caned while my friend and I were waiting to see our Headmaster and I could hear the cane swishing and a couple of cries of pain. Hearing someone being caned before you were going to be caned sent chills down you spine. My Headmasters cane was crook handled and he made a big production out of producing his cane; flexing his cane; ordering me to hold out my hand and flatten my palm; tapping my hand with the cane twice, raising the cane and swishing it down onto my hand. Unlike my two primary school canings I received all six strokes on my right hand I had to be told to raise my hand and flatten my palm after each stroke. Then I had to watch my friend receive his punishment. I am left handed so I was able to continue my lessons without the added pain of having to write with a caned hand. My right hand was swollen and the pain had subsided to a dull throb by the time I was on the school bus home. The cane marks took three days to dissipate and we were threatened with six strokes of the cane and a week of after school detention if we truanted again.
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Paul
Dec 04, 2010#158
Corporal punishment survey
Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):
About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:
Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
My complete secondary school recore, mostly just smacked with the hand but one caning listed seperately at the end.
About You:
Gender: Male
Approximate age when punished: 3 at 11 and one at 15
Approximate year of punishment: 1972 and 1976
Crime committed or alleged: Looking at another boys work, defacing front of exercise book,
late for class having been to the toilet at the end of break.
Weight lifting in the gym without supervieion – we were only
supposed to be circuit training.
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: English teacher RE teacher, English teacher,
Gym teacher
Gender of staff member: Male
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): 3 in classroom, 1 in gym
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Smacked with hand
Number of strokes: 1, 3, 2, 4
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Bottom
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): Bending over
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): Over trousers, last one over gym sgorts
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): In front of class
About the school Boys grammar school
Name of School: Huddersfield New College
Town: Huddersfield
Country: England
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?: No
Do you consider the punishment effective?: Not especialy, it was just something that happened
Any other relevant info: Getting smacked at 15 was a bit embarrassing. Didn’t have time to think about it though,
the gym teacher came storming over, put his hand on the back of my neck, bent me over and walloped me.
About You:
Gender: Male
Approximate age when punished: 12
Approximate year of punishment: 1973
Crime committed or alleged: Messing about in class
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Art teacher
Gender of staff member: Male
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): Classroom
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Cane – actually a length of dowel rod
Number of strokes: 2
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Bottom
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): Bending over
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): Over trousers
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): In front of class
About the school Boys grammar school
Name of School: Huddersfield New College
Town: Huddersfield
Country: England
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?: No
Do you consider the punishment effective?: I didn’t think I’d done anything particularly
wrong and first just thought he was messing about when he told me to bend over. Even though I’d
had to bend over in front of the class before I just stood there embarrassed until he told be a second time.
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N.D.
Dec 06, 2010#159
Corporal punishment survey
Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):
About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:
Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
About You:
Gender: M
Approximate age when punished: 16
Approximate year of punishment: 1988
Crime committed or alleged: Fighting
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Headmaster
Gender of staff member: M
Location punished: School teachers taffroom
Type of punishment: Cane
Number of strokes: 6
Applied to: Hand
Position adopted: Standing hand outstretched palm up
State of dress: School uniform (yellow shirt with green and yellow striped tie, green jumper, grey shorts and black leather shoes)
Privacy: Caned in front of five teachers
About the school:
Name of School: Cambridge Park
Country: NSW, Australia
Effectiveness:
Were you ever punished again for the same offence? No
Do you consider the punishment effective? Yes
Any other relevant info:
There were at least five boys waiting to see the headmaster when we arrived with Miss Donellan and they were all caned. I received all six strokes on my right hand I had to be told to raise my hand and flatten my palm after each stroke. The Headmaster gave me all six strokes on my fingers which stung terribly and he had to hold my wrist to keep my hand in place for the final three strokes. Then I had to watch the other boy receive his punishment and he had to be told to raise his hand and flatten his palm several times as well, and his wrist was held for the final stroke because he did not present his hand for the final stroke when commanded to. We were promptly sent to wait outside his office with hands on our heads and noses to the wall to add to our humiliation. My right hand was swollen for most of the day and the cane marks were clearly visible on my hand. In addition to the cane we were punished with two weeks of afternoon detention where we had to write 250 lines every afternoon during our detentions.
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Dec 07, 2010#160
Corporal punishment survey
Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):
About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:
Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
Hi ND
Interesting post.
Unless there were some very serious aggravating factors , the total punishment would , certainly by British standards in 1988 have been seen as grossly excessive. Now I admit by then the cane had been abolished in state schools and its was being rapidly scaled down in the independent sector for a whole host of reasons. Nevertheless even a decade earlier, whilst you might well have got six of the best , I cannot think of an establishment where you would get effectively as I understand it 10 x 250 lines in detention as well!!!! By ’88 no way ! Can any other readers give examples ?
It seems to me from various posts that Australian responses in schools in the 1980’s were obviously far and above the severity handed out in the average British school of the period. Remember even Eton had abolished the cane by then !
If that is the case , I wonder what are the social factors which underlie that?
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