Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):
About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:
Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
Approximate age when punished: 12
Approximate year of punishment: 1983
Crime committed or alleged: Misbehaviour at local pool during school
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Headmistress
Gender of staff member: Female
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): Office
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Cane
Number of strokes: 6
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Hand
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): Standing with hand outstretched and palm facing upwards
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): School PE Uniform
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): in front of two boys who were also caned and teacher
About the school
Name of School: Boronia Park Public School
Town: Sydney
Country: NSW
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?: No
Do you consider the punishment effective?:
Any other relevant info:
We were caned for misbehaving at the swimming pool where we were having swimming lessons. Instead of using the ladder to get into the pool we ran and bombed into the water. We were immediately told to get out and go to the changerooms and dry and put our uniforms back on. When we returned to school the three of us were marched to see the Headmistress. Misbehaviour when out of school trips was a very serious offence and we got a fairly severe punishment. We got all six strokes on the one hand and we had a week of after school detention. We also had letters sent home and my grandfather spanked me soundly before bed. My sister told me she could hear Grandfather’s hand smacking my bottom from the kitchen at the back of the house.
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stephenhutchings
Corporal punishment surveyHi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
YEAR : 1970
CRIME : DEFACING EXERCISE BOOK
ADMINISTERED BY : Mr MORGAN HISTORY MASTER
LOCATION : CLASSROOM
IMPLEMENT : PLIMSOLL
NUMBER : 6
APPLIED TO : BOTTOM
POSITION : BENT OVER TOUCHING TOES
DRESS : TROUSERS
PRIVACY : FRONT OF CLASS
OTHER INFO : NOT PAYING ATTENTION IN CLASS I WAS DOODLING ON MY EXERCISE BOOK DID NOT NOTICE
Mr MORGAN APPROACHING.HE WAS A STICKLER ABOUT TOUCHING TOES AND TROUSERS BEING
TIGHT WOULD,NT START THE PUNISHMENT TILL HE WAS HAPPY WITH THE BOYS POSITION
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holyfamilypenguin4,5593
Corporal punishment surveyHi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
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Rodney Bacon
Corporal punishment surveyHi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
Gender: Male
Approximate age when punished: 7
Approximate year of punishment: 1963
Crime committed or alleged: Sliding on ice after warning
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Headmaster
Gender of staff member: Male
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): Office
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Cane
Number of strokes: 2
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Left hand
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): Standing
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): Dressed
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): As part of a line of boys
About the school
Name of School:
Town:
County: Surrey
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?: No
Do you consider the punishment effective?: Yes, he made his point.
This was part of a mass punishment of 20+ boys aged 7-11 for disobeying rule forbidding sliding on the ice during the cold winter of 1962-1963. Girls received no punishment, although there were a few involved.
About You:
Gender: Male
Approximate age when punished: 9
Approximate year of punishment:1964
Crime committed or alleged: Playing in corridor after warning.
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Headmaster
Gender of staff member: Male
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): Office
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Cane
Number of strokes: 2
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Bottom/Upper thigh
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): Bending over desk
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): Over short trousers
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): In front of one teacher and two boys
About the school
Name of School:
Town:
County: Surrey
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?: No, I was an innocent bystander anyway.
Do you consider the punishment effective?: No it just made me resentful.
About You:
Gender: Male
Approximate age when punished: 10
Approximate year of punishment: 1965
Crime committed or alleged: Crossing a road at a point other than that supervised by the lollipop lady.
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Head
Gender of staff member: Male
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): Office
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Cane
Number of strokes: 2
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Left hand
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): Standing
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): Dressed
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): In front of three other boys
About the school
Name of School:
Town:
County: Surrey
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?: No
Do you consider the punishment effective?: Ridiculous punishment.
I had crossed the road at the lollipop lady then recrossed further down the road to go to the public library. I was seen by a teacher who reported me. Maybe I was a bit unlucky as 2 other boys had been seen crossing the road for less worthy reasons.
My mother attended the school to complain as she considered me capable of safely crossing the road. HM’s reply was that I was still his responsibilty until I reached home. Therefore I should go home first and then return to the library. My mother said that this was ridiculous.
In fairness, one of my peers was seriously injured a few years earlier, but big difference between a 7 yo and a 10 yo.
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Nathan
Corporal punishment surveyHi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
Approximate year of punishment: 1982
Crime committed or alleged: Leaving school grounds to collect a ball that had gone over the fence
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Headmistress
Gender of staff member: Female
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): Office
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Cane
Number of strokes: 6
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Hand
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): Standing with hand outstretched and palm facing upwards
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): School uniform
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): In private
About the school
Name of School: Boronia Park Public School
Town: Sydney
Country: NSW
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?: No
Do you consider the punishment effective?: Yes, it was a silly thing to do as the street the school was located was a main road and I could have been hit by a car. A boy had nearly been hit a couple of weeks before and everyone was threatened with a caning if we either didn’t cross at the lights or left school grounds during school without the company of a staff member or legal guardian.
Any other relevant info:
I had to wait quite a while outside the headmistress’ office before I was summoned. She already had her cane in her hand when I entered and she was tapping it against her skirt, she had a traditional crook handled cane and it was a fearsome instrument. She flexed the cane three times before she ordering me to hold out my right hand. I was given a good scolding and she announced how many strokes I was going to receive for my punishment. I received the six strokes on my right hand and I had to go to the toilet to rub my hands together to dull the sting and I was fighting back tears.
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Nathan
Corporal punishment surveyHi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
Approximate age when punished: 13
Approximate year of punishment: 1984
Crime committed or alleged: Misbehaviour during PE lesson
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: PE Master
Gender of staff member: Male
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): Office
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Leather strap
Number of strokes: 6
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Bottom
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): Bending over chair
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): School PE uniform (white shirt, light blue nylon shorts)
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): In front of my friend who was strapped after me.
About the school
Name of School: catholic boys school
Town: Sydney
Country: Australia
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?: Yes
Do you consider the punishment effective?: I don’t know but it was a very painful experience
Any other relevant info:
I went from the public sector to the private catholic school sector where the strap was the weapon of choice. Unlike my primary school experiences the strap was applied to the buttocks. The Deputy Headmaster, the PE Master, the Science Master and the English Master all had leather straps. The typical strap was two strips of leather sewn together with hide.This was the first of five strappings that I received during my schooling and I think it hurt more than the cane (whether it was because the strap was applied with more force I don’t know), but my bottom was well and truly on fire and having to sit down after the strap intensified the pain. The PE master strapped so hard that the imprint of the stitching on the strap was visible on your bottom. Getting the strap across your thin nylon PE shorts on a chilly winter morning was a very unpleasant experience. The discipline was a lot more strict and it did not take much for a misbehaved boy to earn himself the strap.
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Tavi
Corporal punishment surveyHi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
Re: Corporal punishment survey – please reply if you’ve received it!
March 7 2011, 6:24 PM
Tavisha_VanLeeuwen: We are the same age and attended Catholic schools with nuns in the Northeast. As a boy in a coed school from grades 1 through 12 and with almost solely nuns, boys were hit way more often than girls. It was not as bad I think for boys being punished before girls as girls in front of boys. Rulers were common and yardsticks were in front of the class or in the office. Have you seen “Brides of Christ” or “5ive Girls”? The yardstick was the manner the boys received it in front of the class and girls would have received it as well up to the age of 17. The ruler was common for both genders. The thread “brides of christ” shows videos and images.
A.W., I most certainly have seen that miniseries, the whole miniseries, in fact, and I have the boxed DVD set. It’s one of my favorite entertainments that I’ve ever watched. The relationship among the three girls is heartbreakingly beautiful, and nearly as much so is the nurturing that Sister Catherine (and to a lesser degree Sister Paul) shows to the three girls.
There actually WAS a nun at one of my schools who was just like the miniseries Sister Catherine (extraordinarily beautiful and the nicest, sweetest person you’d ever want to know), but unfortunately, she taught second grade and came to the school when I was in one of the older grades so I never actually had her. Her name was Sister Thomas.
The teacher I had for seventh and eighth grades (she taught us in seventh, then moved on to eighth grade with us when the eighth grade teacher left) was a little bit like the miniseries Sister Paul, very nice but occasionally losing her temper and smacking a girl, and definitely quite strict when she had to be. Her name was Sister Florita, and she was also quite pretty but not as much as Sister Thomas.
Sister Florita really could be quite strict when she had to be. My “first offense” on playing catch with the blackboard eraser was really a very mild punishment, but she whipped my hands but good the second time, and also when I threw the spitballs, and the follow-up of sitting on my hands for the afternoon made it even more painful. Looking back, though, I guess my misconduct was dangerous, considering another student could have been hurt by a flying eraser, and spitballs stuck to the ceiling weren’t something anyone would want in a classroom, so I deserved what I got, even the strapping from my Dad after that “conduct conference” both my parents had to come to.
I’m really surprised at videos I see where a child holds out a hand for a rulering. I just can’t imagine keeping my hand in place for even a single whack, much less the three or four that were more common. The nuns held our hands tightly around the fingers while they rulered our palms, which is the only way I can imagine that I could have taken the rulerings I got. After three or four or maybe even a half dozen, your palm would feel like it was on fire, it was so hot, and it also felt horribly swollen and water-logged, like it weighed a ton, though that feeling would wear off in a few hours. The pain would continue all morning, though, since you would usually have to sit on your hands afterwards until lunch, or all afternoon when you had to sit on your hands afterwards until dismissal. You didn’t get to go to the Girls’ Room to run your hands under cold water or anything like that to make it easier on you.
Yardsticking, though, wasn’t really that bad. Even a heavy yardstick wasn’t felt much through our skirts and slips, and often the yardstick was just a rather flimsy bit of reconstituted wood pasteboard. The wooden pointers might be a slight bit heavier, but they didn’t really hurt much either. Yardstickings and pointerings were always in class; and they were pretty much just “get your attention” kind of spankings, at least in the older grades, although I guess they may have hurt a bit more when you were just six or seven or eight years old.
Really serious wallopings, though, were with the dustbrush, which I’ve linked to in other postings but which I’m linking to again because it was so important in our “child rearing” 
in the 50s and 60s. Dustbrushings too were generally in front of the class, and if you got sent to the Office you might get it also, although you might also be sent out to cut a switch, though this was extremely rare. Being sent to the Office, though, usually meant a “conduct conference” with your parents, which meant a really serious strapping at home, at least in my case.
I don’t think they used the dustbrush on us before fifth or sixth grade, because it was a really serious matter, and even the “bad” girls quailed at getting it. (I wouldn’t say I was a “bad” girl, just sort of “middling to bad,” but we had three or four girls in just about every class who were the “usual suspect” types, if you know what I mean.) We usually called a spanking with the dustbrush “getting dusted” or something like that for short. A dialogue might have gone like this:
Michelle Kirk: Dja hear? Sister John Miriam dusted Anzalone an’ Buckley ‘n Cooney ‘n DeSimone this afternoon? Brought ’em all four up to the platform and dusted ’em good!
Denise Oristaglio: Yeah, saw Jessie an’ Jen sittin’ outside the Office. What they do?
MK: Passin’ notes. Jessie wrote it, an’ Buckley ‘n Cooney passed it on to DeSimone, so they all four got dusted, but Jessie an’ Jen got sent to Mother Raymond for bein’ the “instigators” is what Sister said.
DO: Betcha they get a conduct conference, ’cause Anzalone got sent to the Office last week. For spitballs. Remember?
MK: Yeah, but I feel sorry for Jen…. Well, guess I feel sorry for Jessie too. But I’m glad them other two got it. Think they’re soooo good, don’t they!
DO: Aw, lay offa Buckie. Glad Cooney got it, but Buckie helped me with them twenty “word problem” arithmetics Sister gave me as a penance last weekend.
MK: Yeah? Loretta Buckley? Thought she was a stuck-up just like Cooney. Gotta remember that next time I get a….
Now that’s an imaginary conversation (and so are the names), but it’s the way a couple twelve-year-olds would have talked while walking home from school, talking about getting “dusted” and being called up to the “platform” (that wooden platform that ran underneath the blackboard, that you stood on to reach up higher). We always talked among ourselves about other kids “getting it,” though we’d only talk about a girl to her face if she was a really good friend or if she herself initiated the conversation.
Now then, as to 5ive Girls, though, I’d definitely have to call that a fantasy to end all fantasies. We had nuns almost exclusively back in those days, and any lay teachers were women about as old as you could possibly imagine. And the lesbianism is completely imaginary, at least as far as any interaction between teachers and students, completely imaginary altogether. I know there’s been all this talk about priestly abuse, but where the nuns were concerned, they were really quite protective of us. By high school, of course, some girls (myself included) were experimenting with each other, and who knows what nuns might have done among themselves (though I really think about 99.99% of that about nuns in convents is totally imaginary), but there would absolutely NEVER have been anything like that between teachers and students such as is fantasized in 5ive Girls
Hugz,
Tavi
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The Apache Kid
Corporal punishment surveyHi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
Therefore,I’m donating,free of restrictions and risk of copyright infringement and to be fairly distributed around the Forums at the managements discretion,50,yes 50,JEEZES’.
Enjoy.
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holyfamilypenguin4,5593
Corporal punishment surveyHi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
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Sarah Evans
Corporal punishment surveyHi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.
Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.
School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.
If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.
Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.
The information I’d love you to provide is the following:
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:Any other relevant info:
Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.
Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.
About You:
Gender: Female
Approximate age when punished: 12
Approximate year of punishment: 1981
Crime committed or alleged: Not trying in PE lesson
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: PE teacher
Gender of staff member: Female
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): Games field
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): slipper
Number of strokes: 4
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): bottom and legs
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): touching toes
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): across games knickers
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): other girls in lesson
About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?: Yes
Do you consider the punishment effective?: No – I am not athletic, and considered the punishment unfair
Any other relevant info:
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About You:
Gender: Female
Approximate age when punished: 13
Approximate year of punishment: 1982
Crime committed or alleged: Running in the coridor – which had been recently warned against – and colliding with another girl and knocking her over (which, of course, is why it was banned)
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Deputy Head
Gender of staff member: Female
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): Office
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Slipper
Number of strokes: 5
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Bottom
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): bending over a chair
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): skirt up
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): in private
About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?: No
Do you consider the punishment effective?: Yes
Any other relevant info:
_____________________________________________________
About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished: 15
Approximate year of punishment: 1984
Crime committed or alleged: Not attending detention given for repeated non-completion of homework
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Deupty Head
Gender of staff member: Female
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): Office
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Cane
Number of strokes: 6
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Bottom
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): bent over chair
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): Skirt up
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): Form tutor present
About the school
Name of School
Town: Malvern
Country: UK
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?: No
Do you consider the punishment effective?: Yes
Any other relevant info:
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About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished: 16
Approximate year of punishment: 1984
Crime committed or alleged: part of group backtalking to teacher in lesson
About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: class teacher
Gender of staff member: Male
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): Classroom
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Slipper
Number of strokes: 4
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Bottom
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): bending forwards
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): over skirt
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): IN class
About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:
Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?: No
Do you consider the punishment effective?: No
Any other relevant info: