Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

Thank you sc545474,

After some of the stuff that has appeared recently in other threads on reading your above March 5 2016, 7:24 PM contribution I am minded to quote the words of Lotta Nonsense, who after reading an early contribution by the sadly missed Alan Turing, then using the name John, observed (second contribution in the thread here ):

What is this forum coming to?

I’ve read and re-read the above posting and I can’t find anything unbelievable in it!

A sad day for fantasists everywhere.

In your case of course the gender roles were reversed from those in that thread, as you were a boy slippered in front of girls, or rather a girl. Would your friend Carol have had any reason to fear her own more direct participation in subsequent events when the slipper was first mentioned?

I think that Carol would have been slightly nervous when Mr Briscoe produced the plimsoll from the drawer,i knew my fate was sealed but we were unsure if girls were subject to c.p,no one had told us anything to suggest that they were exempt,perhaps they just wanted to install a fear factor in the female pupils that they could receive c.p same as the boys,that might have been why Carol was allowed to witness my slippering,so she could be thinking that could happen to me.
Quite a lot of the masters administered c.p to boys at the front of class whilst girls watched, in fact it happened quite frequently
I remember asking my elder sister who also attended this school if girls got the whack,her reply was i don,t think so,although she did mention that the p.e mistress had a single plimsoll in the cupboard of her office,why have one?
What Carol and my sister both have in common was that they were both subject to parental c.p at home,both my mum and Carols had a thing for slapping legs,,i know my sister suffered this on more than one occasion
and it looked painful,not as bad as my dads slipper which i received regularly but it must have stung,mum used to hold her by the arm and slap away at her bare legs usually 10-12 slaps,my sister used to arch her back to either escape the slap or lessen the strength of it,i on the other hand i could not escape dads slipper,i was held firmly over his knee and my backside tanned hard
Going off subject here,as long as i was at this school i never heard of any girl who received c.p and if one did the news would have spread around the school in no time

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

I notice that quite a few people record the fact that parents were expected to sign notes informing then of CP or detentions. Surely a bit of creative forgery was not beyond the wit of errant pupils – ie simply get a well disposed fellow pupil to sign on their behalf!?

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

There was no double jeopardy in my home but I think forging my mothers signature would have changed that rule. I would have been caught because my mother’s handwriting was flawless and mine looks like chicken scratches. No amount of practice would help.

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

No way would i consider forging my parents signature if caught i would,nt be able to sit for a week,much to risky,plus having an older sister just added to the chances of being found out as she loved dropping me in it,i got slippered enough times because of her informing dad of some misbehavior on my part

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Early in my first year of secondary education the class witnessed a classmate getting 4 whacks with our Form Master’s size 12 leather soled sandal for handing in a forged parental note requesting that he be excused from PT because he wasn’t feeling well. This implement, administered by the somewhat muscular young Form Master, was virtually guaranteed to make even 12 year old boys cry, and it did on that occasion.

The boy concerned was certainly not a paragon of virtue and as he looked pretty healthy presumably the Form Master was suspicious. Anyway he’d visited the School Secretary, who just happened to have a letter from the boy’s mother, the alleged writer of the sick note, on file. Faced with the evidence the boy sensibly confessed all and thus got away with the sandal rather than the Headmaster’s cane. He’d forgotten his PT kit, which was a slippering offence, and was seeking to avoid that punishment. Class opinion was that he probably got the worst of all possible outcomes. At that stage nobody had experienced the Headmaster’s cane, but opinion was that it couldn’t possibly be as bad as the sandal, and the few who’d experienced both the PT Master’s slipper and the sandal had no doubt that the latter was much the more painful.

The parental letter check would doubtless have become much more difficult as typewriters and then computers and printers became almost universal in homes, but this was the 1950s. The school didn’t ask for parental consent before administering CP or before imposing detention. If you got slippered or caned you got slippered or caned. If it was a caning by the Prefects there would be day or two’s delay to allow for the right of appeal to the Headmaster, but otherwise it just happened and parental permission didn’t enter into it.

In the case of detentions unless it was a Thursday or a Saturday, which were half days and had no detention session, you would normally have to serve a detention after school from 16:15 to 17:15 the same day. Only an impeccable excuse and the most skilled and plaintive pleading might just get it delayed to a subsequent day if you were very, very lucky. Bus or train times, even car pick-up (very rare in those days) counted for nought.

However even if prior parental notification/approval of SCP or detentions had been required Justin‘s stratagem proposed on March 7 2016, 12:35 AM above would have been of no avail. Canings and Detentions were recorded on School Reports sent to parents, so they’d have got to know about them anyway, albeit after the event.</div>

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

In the school I attended in the 60s the slipper ( a size 11 rubber-soled plimsoll) administered across PE shorts by a young muscular PE teacher was far more painful than the cane. The PE teachers took it upon themselves to have a wider disciplinary role in the school and if for example at break time you had committed a sufficiently serious offence you would be sent by a prefect to the PE teacher on duty to be punished. This would involve having to change into PE shorts with nothing underneath to be walloped up to 4 times. These strokes were delivered full force and would leave a raised welt on your backside and would hurt like hell. I was in receipt of such punishment on a few occasions and was accompanied by tears and an extremely sore bottom.

Hello Diane,

A question has occurred to me relating to the times you were caned at school over your skirt (or dress).

When a girl wearing a skirt bends over, the skirt will tighten against the upper and middle area of the bottom, but (unless it’s a really tight “pencil” skirt) there will still be an air gap between the skirt and the lower part of the bottom, which would impede the action of the cane. So the target area would effectively be restricted to the middle part of the bottom only. Of course it’s the lower part of the bottom that is the most sensitive area and the area that will produce an unwelcome reminder of the punishment when sitting down.

Do you think this is true – or am I talking rubbish? When you were caned over your skirt or dress, can you remember whether any of the strokes landed low down, or were they all concentrated higher up?

Of course, it wouldn’t have been an issue with boys – trousers are much better-behaved than skirts in this respect!

Keith

Your point about the air gap is probably true but how significant is it?
A cane or slipper making impact on this point may be only be absorbed by just a little bit, plus the air gap will be mainly in the centre line, the buttocks on either side (which is the main target)will still be covered in tightly stretched skirt material.
As you say it depends greatly on type of skirt, but most plain, straight school skirts should be fine.

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

About You:
Gender: Male.
Approximate age when punished: 11
Approximate year of punishment: 1968 – 69
Crime committed or alleged:Fooling about in class when left with student teacher

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Mr Holden ( Housemaster )
Gender of staff member: Male
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): Mr Holdens classroom
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Cane
Number of strokes: 3
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Bottom.
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):Bent over back of chair
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): Trousers
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): Caning administered in stockroom which was part of the classroom,2 other boys were also caned with me,the rest of the mixed class and the student teacher,not sure of her name Miss Simpson/Sampson/Simpkins could hear the punishment

About the school
Name of School: Secondary school North West
Town:
Country: UK

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?: yes
Do you consider the punishment effective?: Yes

Any other relevant info – Mr Holden taught english,this day a student teacher attended our class as part of her training,Mr Holden was called away through the lesson and asked the student if she would be alright left in charge of the class as he would,nt be to long.Before he left we were warned about misbehavior as we all knew what the consequences would be.No sooner had Mr Holden left the class when the boy in the desk behind me kicked my chair,i turned round and shoved his desk,there then followed a minor arguement with the two boys behind me,the student teacher told us all to be quiet otherwise she would report us to Mr Holden on his return,we stopped instantly
When Mr Holden returned he asked the student if everything was alright,she pointed out myself and the other two boys,he ordered us to the front of the class as the student told Sir what had happened,he was furious and announced to the rest of the class that these three boys are going to be caned,there was a silence from our watching classmates.
Sir went to the cupboard and brought out the cane, i had never seen one in real life and believe me i was shaking,we had to follow Mr Holden into the stockroom,i remember the last boy in closing door only for Mr Holden to tell him to open it,he wanted the rest of the class to hear what was about to happen,he put a chair in the centre of the room and ordered the first boy to bend over the back,the boy bent and put his hands on the seat,Sir wanted him further over the chair with his hands gripping the legs,satisfied with the boys position Sir then folded his blazer over his back,his trousers were tight as Sir measured the cane across his bottom then brought the cane down with a resounding swish then crack,the boy howled and i could hear the rest of the class reacting to the noise with ooh,s and intakes of breath,two more strokes landed with exactly the same reaction,the boy was ordered to stand ,the tears were running down his face.Sir pointed to the chair and i took up the same position as the previous victim,i remember my trousers feeling tight,the the tap of the cane,the first stroke landed,i must admit i,ve never felt pain like this,the second stroke was worse and the third which was a bit lower was agony the tears were streaming down my cheeks,
The third boy was dealt with and then we were marched out to face the class and to apologise to the student
That was my first ever caning and believe me it was absolute agony

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Staff Member
Gender of staff member: Male
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): Gym
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Slipper (gym shoe)
Number of strokes: 1
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Bottom
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): whilst playing games
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): pe shorts
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): In front of class

About the school Grammar School
Name of School:
Town: Sussex
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?: No
Do you consider the punishment effective?: Yes

Any other relevant info: I hadn’t heard PE Master’s command to stop playing so he laid into me hard with one stroke of his gym shoe – it hurt!

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.