I think the efficacy of cp implements probably depends to some extent on what you are used to. I am used(?) to being slippered with the plimsoll and can take quite a bit, but find the cane quite hard to take. I have been slippered by a guy who prided himself on really hard slipperings which I managed to take,the hardest I have ever had. But I found it hard to take much of the cane. I told him that that was probably because the cane was much more painful. He disagreed and said he also met many people who took really hard canings,but found it almost impossible to take more than a few good whacks of the plimsoll They were quite used to the cane.

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