Footballers/celebrities caned at school2

Thanks for the further post Nicholas, glad to see someone else is interested in this topic. Can’t help with the 3 you mentioned, indeed I seem to recall John Aldridge saying that his father told him not to let any teacher cane him! But I agree that a lot of footballers of that era, with the disciplinary records they had, must have got the cane/slipper at school.
I can e mail you my source for the Teddy Sherigham details, and inded I have one or two more names as well. It would be good if someone else could come up with some more.

Yes, Brightenlad, I would like to know your Sheringham source! And maybe any other names you might have. I added a post to your prep/public school thread re. unjust punishments at mine, which you may not have seen. Nothing to do with footballers though ,I’m afraid.

The comedian Max Miller (real name Thomas Henry Sargent) is quoted in ‘Max Miller –the Cheeky Chappie’ by John East, thus:

The teacher used to say, “Come out Sargent! Lie across that desk!” Then I had then usual strokes. One afternoon the teacher called me out six times. After she’d finished I said, “I think I’ll stay here.”
“Why?” she asked.
“I won’t be able to sit down now,” I told her.
That time she had to laugh too. It’s a funny thing, but forty years later, when I played the Brighton Hippodrome, she came to see me in my dressing room.
“You used to be a dunce at school,” she said. “But you haven’t turned out to be much of a dunce after all.”
Then she told me she’d never seen me on the stage. That was worse than any beating she gave me.

Dear Big Ones,

Thank you for your e-mail message.

Just because I do not know how many goals W.G. Grace scored against Birchfield Harriers at Epsom in 1998, does not mean that I know nothing about sport!

Oh, you foolish girl! It was seventeen, because he refused to leave the field after the ref blew full time and found it a lot easier to score after that.

Rumour has it that he then retired to the bar and scored quite a lot more later.

This could be apocryphal.

I found the following on a fetish site. Does anyone have any more information?

This fascination with earliest spankings is described in the autobiography of the late Sir Laurence Olivier. Much of the first part of the book contains descriptions of spankings and other corporal punishment at home and at school. Sir Laurence remarks that for so many people the first moment of awareness in childhood involves a spanking.

I haven’t read Laurence Olivier’s biography but in Ian Gibson’s book “The English Vice – Beating, Sex and Shame in Victorian England and After”, there is quoted a letter L.O. wrote to the Observer which reads:
‘The first time a schoolmaster ordered me to take my trousers down I knew it was not from any doubt that he could punish me efficiently enough with them up. The theatre is concerned, whether in the deepest tragedy or the lightest comedy, with the teaching of the human heart the knowledge of itself, and sometimes, when it is necessary – and we are obviously going through such a time – with the study, understanding and recognition of that most dreaded and dangerous eccentricity in the human design, the tripartite conspiracy between the sexual, the excretory and the cruel.’
He was writing in defence of Edward Bond’s play “Saved” in which a baby in a pram with a wet nappy is stoned to death.
Talking of Edward Bond, he has also translated Franz Wedekind’s play “Spring Awakening” set in Germany about 1900. Early on in this one of a group of schoolgirls describes to the others how her father strips and beats her and makes her stand outside the house in just her shift. Later on there is a scene in which a boy seeks to beat a girl as part of some sex play.

Mick Jagger got caned at Dartford Grammar School: http://www.tes.co.uk/search/search_disp … 993&Type=0

The late Brian Jones, also of the Rolling Stones, had “frequent canings” at school in Cheltenham: http://www.classicrockpage.com/rrheaven/jones.htm

“Sting” claims to have been caned 42 times in one year at school in Newcastle: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/3415/sting.htm

Sometime wannabe rock star Tony Blair, now prominent in a rather different line of business, got “six of the best” at age 17 at Fettes College: http://www.corpun.com/uks00103.htm#7360

There is an excellent site detailing female celebrities who were caned/slippered at school (Spanking Facts and Research) but does anyone know of one that details actors/popstars/sportsmen/footballers who were caned.
If not, let’s see how many names we can come up with; from biographies/magazine articles I have read I can name quite a few if anyone is interested.

Botham – slippered at school
Alec Stewart almost undoubtedly slippered/caned – went to my school!
Chris Tarrant – caned in assembly / in front of whole school (on the backside)
Anyone know if Tony Adams ever copped it?

Richard, where did you find out about Ian Botham? I don’t know about Tony Adams, but he is the right generation and temperament – he must have done. Nice thought! Just read your other text re. slipper or plimsoll. Good to know that there is someone else out there who has felt a real slipper on his arse – you’re right, it doesn’t hurt as much, but the sound is just as exciting!