Hi again Liz,
As you are probably well aware, it is an indisputable fact that very many gentleman (often but not always, of quite senior years) seem to continue derive considerable pleasure from donning suitably sized schoolboy attire (probably acquired from a specialist outlet) and purchasing services from a professional or semi professional lady of their preferred demeanour and age group which usually involve the said lady playing out the role of a displeased strict school mistress and demonstrating her expertise with a cane , slipper and strap.

There are also, so I am reliably informed other gentleman of similar persuasion who whilst not actually indulging in such activities fantasise at length about actually doing so. Their reluctance I understand is often due to the prospect of buyers remorse in that the “real thing” might be a complete disillusionment and years of future fantasising would be destroyed.
Answering your query in very broad brush terms one can only logically assume that they pandering to something they wanted but did not receive during their school days or possibly ,in a few instances ,are trying re-enact, with embellishments, an actual school experience . Sadly It is unlikely that this esteemed forum will be blessed with a full confessionals which your excellent first post sought to achieve.

Digressing for a moment I hope you will not be offended by by a query as to what brought you to the pages of this esteemed forum. Should you wish to decline to answer this would be fully understood but hopefully if you have had any experience of SCP or just a long time interest in the subject, any memories, experiences and thoughts that you are prepared to share would be most welcomed by our happy band.

As regards young ladies fantasising, I can  report, from my own experiences that many young ladies born in the late 50s and 60s were intrigued /very interested in dabbling in the school CP re-enactment during the 80s and 90s although such activities were strictly non commercial . Most of these had no experience of real CP during their school years although a few had received mild slipperings and many had experienced slapped upper thighs in Junior school.

During my years in my boys only grammar school I and and a few of of my school friends became well acquainted ,thanks to a local church youth club with some girls from 2 local girls grammar schools, Raines Foundation and Coburn. Several had mild spanko tendencies although I suspect this was primarily an excuse for bodily contact in various chase games developed in that age group to overcome shyness and social protocol. Strangely I smacked many a girl’s bottom long before I plucked up courage to try some real “snogging”. The “friendships” continued until around 16 when some left school for full time employment and found other social groups.

One one of our “crowd”  Daffers definitely had very strong spanko tendencies . I have, in fact, mentioned her at some length in previous contributions . Indeed, I left one tantalising post unfinished with the said young lady alone with our headmaster in his study following her stated intention to ask him to cane her due to her part in an out of school altercation . Details of this, which involved fisticuffs with boys from a nearby secondary modern at a youth club in their neighbourhood I have detailed previously. There was police involvement due to 2 of the “other side” requiring hospital treatment and I and 2 others were subsequently caned by the Head for bringing the school into disrepute. For those interested see the ILEA thread my post #61.

For clarification Daffer’s spanko fantasies definitely involved an authoritarian figure . This was a key element which could not easily be fulfilled by a boy of her own age. It seems one of the highlights of her life was at the age of 15 when she engineered an OTK spanking on her underwear from a young visiting clergy staying at the vicarage adjacent to the youth club. She consistently let down the tyres of his bicycle and then contrived to get “caught in the act” . She relived the episode many times both verbally and no doubt mentally. A key element was I am sure the authority figure.

Daffers was a regular visitor to our school for various events and open days. I remember her having a bit of a “crush” on a couple of our teachers and she would often flaunt herself a bit too openly. One of these teachers ,Spud Tate was involved in the school film club and we actually filmed a boy being caned..lots of interesting “angles” and some over acting but quite interesting. As I have stated in a previous post Daffers offer to be the recipient in any subsequent film was politely declined by the said teacher.

Any way back to said “interview “ between Mr Standing and Daffers in his office which I left on a bit of a “cliff edge”. I have in the past promised to “conclude” this story and now welcome the opportunity to try and do so.

She was gone for about 6 minutes which was quite a long time .However ,the truth of the matter is nobody really knows what happened. What can be confirmed is the when she returned she was very uncommunicative and had a worrying zombie look on her face and seemed to be staring into space . So whatever happened totally traumatised her for some time and she quite bluntly refused to talk about what had occurred with anybody.

My own personal view is that nothing of a CP nature happened .This is primarily based on my knowledge of the Head who was a fine upstanding man with impeccable standards. He was very approachable with the proviso that you had to be making the most of your opportunity at the school .He was a mine of information about how well you were doing and gave bull shitters very short shift . He also had a definite sense of humour and as Daffers had become  well known to him over the years , I am sure he would have have listened patiently to her request with interest and then possibly given an appropriate “talking to” . I am sure this encounter dressed in her school uniform in the actual office of an authoritarian real Headmaster who did use the cane had a profound affect on her psychologically and probably  serious awakened some  fantasies about what might have been. Others with more vivid imaginations might wish to think otherwise and come up with other scenarios.. Interestingly Daffers was probably not technically still “at school” at this time having sat all her “O” levels.

Apologies if I have rambled on a bit. On the plus side I am likely to be again absent from these esteemed pages for a while as the sea again beckons.

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Hello Sir John 2,

A magnificent contribution, and great to have you back from your marine adventures, even if only briefly.  I presume from the fact that you are off voyaging again that your hard work in restoration paid off and the vessel performed well on her relaunch.

I was very glad to see the conclusion of your ‘Daffers’ account at last.  I suspect that your conclusions as to what probably happened in your Headmaster’s office are correct.  One cannot imagine that in real life a Headmaster, or indeed a Headmistress, would wield the cane on someone not a pupil at their school.

Curiously though such events are sometimes the subject of SCP fiction, and in that genre the cane does invariably seem to be deployed.  I peruse such ‘literature’ on the web from time to time when I need a break from more productive computing pursuits.  We used to have at least three regular contributors who produced school corporal punishment stories professionally, though I don’t recall either of the two whose nom de plume’s I was familiar with dealing with the theme in question.

Of the three authors contributing here that Iwas aware of one has simply disappeared and is very sadly missed by me.  Another voluntarily exiled himself from contributing after an argument with the Forum Management.  He is also sadly missed by me, though the last time I looked he was still visiting from time to time and hopefully may relent.  The third, whose nom de plume I don’t know, would be very sadly missed if he ceased to contribute, but very happily so far he hasn’t.

But back to those accounts of head teachers caning persons of the opposite sex to their pupils and who attend another school.  Naturally I prefer those accounts where a naughty schoolboy is caned by the Headmistress of the adjoining girls’ school.    Alas, they are rare, very very rare.  However sometimes they occur in real life – allegedly!  As regards the latter, witness the sad tale of former contributor Trident.  Here it is.  Truth, fiction, or a mixture of the two?  You pays your money and you takes your choice!  I incline to the latter.  1957-1958 was a long time ago, and as Trident claims things were indeed very different then.

A variation on the theme of school staff caning persons external to the school was posted here in the course of an elaborate hoax perpetrated by a once prominent contributor and his sock puppets and associates.  Masquerading as research into SCP practices at a very nearly but not quite named actual school, this eventually purported to demonstrate that the head teacher was whacking members of the public desirous of being whacked in exchange for cash.  I’d link it if I could remember enough details to locate it, but I can’t.

Now as regards your opening paragraphs about mature males donning, or aspiring to don, schoolboy short trousers with the intent or ambition of being caned, slippered or strapped by a lady acting the part of a schoolmistress.

No, sorry, I really can’t imagine anyone having such strange fantasies, and certainly not anyone frequenting this estimable Forum.  However I do recall a chap who used to contribute occasionally posting the above item a year or two ago.  The poor fellow was obsessed with smacked legs following an unfortunate experience in Primary school.

I can remember him posting that he’d once been tempted to apply to attend an ‘adult school’ in the role of a schoolboy because the advertising blurb said that if required the lady ‘teachers’ would apply light slaps to the bared upper thigh of an offending ‘pupil’.  Perhaps that’s why the shorts don’t fit very well!

I went to a boys only junior school (8-11). In addition to the masters there were two lady teachers, one of whom was particularly strict and grumpy. The only officially authorised cp at the school was the headmaster’s cane, but one day I saw this mistress give a spanking to a boy in the changing room after games. The spanking wasn’t specially hard, but the image of the boy touching his toes while she smacked him was very evocative. She must have thought no-one was watching. Had she noticed me staring from the far corner of the room, I’d probably have got it too.

Another Lurker

I  greatly appreciate your excellent response too mine of #11 .  Your penultimate and last paragraphs in particular made me smile.

As regards Trident’s post one would like to believe that, in times past,  something similar did take place to someone.  Odds are at least 3 to 1 however that Trident was not the recipient.

I was good for me to finally conclude the Daffers story .It was kinda hanging over me. As you will appreciate difficult to convey  in the written word the drama of what was most likely a non event ;  Although my 16 old imagination at the time was  considerably more vivid than the boring logic that comes with old age.  Despite this occurring some 61 years ago the image of Daffers face staring blankly into space, lost in another world, is well remembered.  Would love to know what really happened to cause that  but sometimes unsolved mysteries are the most tantalising!

After spending most of 1960  school summer break “abroad”…..well Sandown on the Isle of Wight to be accurate…. and my first holiday without parents, I lost contact with Daffers and others. Altough I later heard she had obtained employment with Lloyds Bank . One would like to think that her manager was an appropriate authority figure.  Of course in the less enlightened times of the early 60s certain activities in the workplace were not considered to contravene the law as they are today.

Although off topic I can confirm that after two ,sometimes eventful, 3 week cruises most of the gremlins of my elderly vessel have been sorted and my confidence in her has grown considerably .  I intend to l have her officially surveyed during the Spring lift out with a view to getting proper insurance cover.

I have to say I am very happy to see some new contributions /contributors during my absence.

Hello SirJohn 2,

A somewhat belated ‘great to have you back’.  I am pleased to note that your marine restoration project has been a success.

As regards former contributor Trident and his account of being  escorted into the adjoining girls’ school and caned bare-bottomed in front of pupils thereof by that school’s headmistress I think we are of one mind.  Interesting to speculate that it might have happened in the day, but probably unlikely that it happened to Trident.

Several years after his contribution here Trident, or someone bearing a great many similarities to him, was spotted by greatly mourned and sadly missed former contributor American Way touting the same story on Flickr.  It was very well received and apparently generally believed there, unlike the derision it elicited here in a more specialist environment.

I may have forgotten something, but apart from Trident’s effort the only definite claim of cross gender / cross school caning in single sex schools I recall was on an adult site dedicated to a fantasy girls’ school.

A lady who once occasioned me some embarrassment in a serious thread here played the part of deputy headmistress there.  In the thread concerned I had confused her with Professor Marina Chukhrova of the Novosibirsk Institute of Medicine in Siberia (it transpired that some bounder had tampered with the nameplate on her desk in a picture on the web):

Thereafter I thought it best to keep an eye on her images in case the same sort of thing ever happened again.  In photo sequences she was sometimes depicted as on patrol with her cane waiting to deal with any naughty boys from the neighbouring boys’ school found nefariously entering the girls’ school premises with naughty intentions.

It was clear from the associated texts that the punitive process was going to be even more embarrassing for any schoolboys so apprehended than the picture mix-up had been for me, but to the best of my recollections none were ever caught.

My own boys only secondary school was surrounded by genteel girls’ schools, the grounds of one were just over the ancient wall against which stood the single storey rifle range and CCF Orderly Office on one side of our commodious school yard.  In the era shortly after I left in clement weather PT, including ball games, was sometimes scheduled in the yard rather than in the gym.

If a ball was carelessly lost over the wall it was the practice of the PT master concerned to order the unfortunate offending boy, normally clad only in PT shorts and plimsolls, up onto the range roof and over the wall to retrieve it.  In retrospect I’m certain that there must have been an  inter-school agreement made to permit this, but some boys despatched over the wall claimed to have narrowly escaped hordes of ravening schoolgirls intent on ………..

Well we can only speculate what they might have been intent on!   I merely have second-hand reports available.  But what if the practice of enforced ball retrieval had been instituted during my time, and rather than ravening schoolgirls there’d been claims of a cane equipped deputy headmistress like the one on the fantasy site waiting to deal with errant boys?  Well I might have been tempted to negotiate some variance of my agreement with the PT department, at least in summer!    As it was though after a frustrating year long campaign which caused much discord, the agreement that if they didn’t bother me I wouldn’t bother them was honoured by both sides for the next 5 years.

Hello CathyG,

It is very good indeed to see you posting again after what seems a very long gap.  Indeed, Tapatalk indicates that 28 March was the last time we heard from you.

I suspect the situation over here in England would be pretty much as in your school days.   Within living memory of the time when school corporal punishment was legal in England female teachers predominated in state primary schools, where most children had their education up to the age of around 11 or 12.  Even where there were male headteachers who carried out the ‘official’ and more severe punishments, there was much informal corporal punishment by female teachers in the course of lessons.

I would certainly think that the majority of our English contributors who suffered SCP while of primary school age would have had it at the hands of female teachers. Quite literally at the hands sometimes.  In my day it was rumoured that the more determined exponents of the ubiquitous spanked thigh used to pickle their spanking hand in vinegar at home in the evening – ouch!

Of course I recall several exceptions from previous posts here who were whacked by male teachers at primary school, and dozens of our members who hitherto haven’t contributed will hopefully swell their number by writing in to contradict my estimate.    I am though talking overall numbers.

At secondary school in England, again within living memory, I would suspect that most people who were whacked were whacked by teachers of the same sex.  Again there were of course exceptions and some girls were undoubtedly punished by male teachers, just as some lucky oops, sorry, naughty boys were most certainly caned, slippered or strapped by female teachers.

For reasons which escape me [glances up ready to dodge lightening bolt] the latter are sometimes envied by other male contributors, and the sentiment is not confined to this Forum.  The opening post of this thread refers to a  Facebook page where one male contributor mentioned being whacked by a lady teacher and other males indicated that they wished that they’d had that experience too.

The lady in question was variously described as such a cute little Welsh girl when angry and petite blonde short hair welsh beauty art teacher by the male participants and a female name commented that she was very pretty.  Must have been the Welsh bit that caused teenage boys to aspire to be whacked by her I think.  I really can’t imagine her other attributes having any significance. 

Anyway, it’s that sort of thing that seems to have got this thread its title.  Like Sir John 2 in the second post in the thread I certainly can’t imagine that we have any female readers who really, really envy girls whacked by male teachers, whether at primary or secondary school, so I guess the target of the thread was male contributors.

But wait!   Come to think of it I do recall an account here and here of a girl demanding to be caned in class by a Welsh Maths teacher like the boys were, instead of the girlie punishment he’d allocated her, and getting her wish, two firm strokes of the cane on the bottom!  Is this confirmation of the Welsh influence, or a possible indication that lots and lots of new female contributors are going to write in to contradict my assumption that it’s a male thing and state that they wish they’d been punished by a male teacher too?  I hope it’s the latter, but I’m not going to hold my breath!

Another_Lurker talks of girls being being punished by a teacher of the opposite sex. I’m told that this happened quite often in Scottish schools. This was, of course, the tawse  on the hands. And similarly boys felt the same from female teachers. I read somewhere of the tawse being used in Walsall in the West Midlands on both boys and girls. The account mentioned a brother and sister both being tawsed for the same offence. The boy bent over for it across his bottom but his sister had it across her hands. I believe that punishment from a teacher of the opposite sex was more common on boys.
During WW2 many of the male teachers were called up into military service and there were many temporary female teachers recruited. Back then the cane or strap for older youngsters was commonplace with the school leaving age 14 back then.
I’m sure it was less usual for girls to be caned on the bottom in school than boys but not totally unknown. If the Local Education Authority gave guidelines concerning CP I’m fairly sure that for girls it was specified that girls took it across their hands. However I’ve read of Leicestershire rules saying boys should be caned but only the slipper to be used on girls; slippering was almost always a bottom punishment!
Changing the subject a little there were no real rules/guidelines as to how UK parents should spank the sons and daughters but plenty did. I don’t believe that many parents back then punished either boys or girls across their hands. Back then many mothers didn’t go out to work and some husbands worked long hours or worked away overnight sometimes. So family spankings were often from mothers for both boys and girls. whether done in private or in front of others, across clothes or bare bottoms varied too.

Hi Six of the best, I agree with the last part of your comment. I was spanked over my Mum’s knee especially up to the age of 7 or 8. Although my mum didn’t like to do it, she punished me that way on a handful of occasions.
Until I reached Secondary school, all my SCP was at the hands of female teachers.

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Hi Six of the best, I agree with the last part of your comment. I was spanked over my Mum’s knee especially up to the age of 7 or 8. Although my mum didn’t like to do it, she punished me that way on a handful of occasions.
Until I reached Secondary school, all my SCP was at the hands of female teachers.

Hi MAFFY1970,
It was much the same from my mother. I remember being across her knee with one her hands on my back and the other spanking my bottom. It hurt my bottom but even then I knew it was because I had misbehaved and mum  was only doing what lots of other parents did. I remember other boys telling of being spanked at home. Some told of their dads really spanking them hard. It was only me and my mum at home and we were very close but if I really misbehaved I went across her knee. It varied from a few slaps over my trousers to a proper tanning with my short trousers pulled down. When was about 10 or 11 I was slippered a few times at home. After that although it was still, I suppose, it was a option but I don’t remember getting it at home.
At senior school it was the ‘slipper’ a big plimsoll across the seat of the trousers. Some teachers did it more than others and often in front of the class. I lasted until the second year before I found myself in the headmaster’s office with two other boys, for fooling about on the stairs, we each received three strokes of the cane. It was very different to any other previous punishment and left my bottom sore for some time and marks for a day or so.