On one occasion, he and a Mordialloc boy called “Gabby” Gray had a fist fight up and down the aisle between the desks while the class cowered in their seats not knowing whom to barrack for. When Gray finally retreated, Julian informed him that he was expelled, so the boy packed his bag and left with a parting shot at Julian as he went out the door, “I was leaving next week, anyway.” Even at the time members of the class thought it was a crude incident, especially when the principal of the school was seen to be acting as a bully, no matter what Gray had done.