What made children better behaved then was better parenting, set boundaries, good teachers, and a community that cared and a world of not have all. Those kinds of values are what we should be progressively aiming to reintroduce today. There are different and increased pressures on life today as a whole, these influence the way kids behave. CP as you suggest Danny as a last result before suspension may work for a small minority and a few saved expulsion, and if it proved I would go with that but only in the older child, but realistically children today are no longer conditioned as we were, You won’t find many that would submit themselves today or teachers getting the backing of their parents even as a last result, it will do the full circle refusal, suspension, expelled, back where the argument started. We have to look for a new approach but that’s the next big question, what.

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