Corporal punishment survey 63

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello Dick Templemeads,

And thank you for a most interesting contribution. I think this is probably your first appearance here, and if so may I please say a personal welcome to the Forum. I wonder if your double posting was prompted by the fact that your first post on the Friday evening did not appear on the Forum straight away? If so this would probably be because as a new contributor your initial few posts would normally be held in the queue for checking by our hard working Forum Moderators before publication. Once it is felt by the Moderators that you are unlikely to post anything undesirable which might lead to problems for the Forum your posts will normally appear instantly.

The description of your caning is particularly interesting. Possibly mistakenly, but based on personal knowledge and information observed, I have previously claimed here that for boys the modus operandi you describe was quite unusual and that there were a great many more girls who had their skirts lifted for SCP delivered on the kickers than boys who had their trousers taken down to be punished on their underpants. Boys punished on the bare, yes, not totally uncommon, especially in Prep Schools. I had a friend at secondary school who was frequently caned in that mode at his prep school. After taking whackings with our Form Master’s size 12 leather soled sandal with total equanimity when other 13 year old boys not infrequently shed tears he observed that when you’d had six of the best with a cane on the bare the sandal didn’t hurt much. But as I say, I haven’t come across SCP over the underpants very frequently.

I wonder if you might be prepared to give a little more information please? Rochester Math would presumably be Sir Joseph Williamson’s Mathematical School, a boy’s Grammar School in Rochester. When you were there was caning on the underpants the norm, or was your punishment in some way exemplary, intended to specially mark the seriousness of your offence? If the latter, if you had failed to learn your lesson and repeated the offence, or committed what was perceive as an even more serious crime, to the best of your knowledge might any resulting caning have been on the bare?

In the second of your posts you refer to the ritual involved as ‘scary’. If possible please it would be most interesting to have your observations on what the ritual was and why it so impressed you. You use both the terms ‘lowered’ and ‘taken down’ for the fate of your trousers. In CP terms the latter is sometimes a little more emotive. Was the removal of the trousers an after-though by the Head after you were bent over or an integral part of the process. Were any specific directions given, such as down to your knees or to your ankles, or total removal?

You mention other school corporal punishments you received, including spanking. Was the latter at primary school prior to your arrival at the Grammar School please? If not, and spanking was used at the Grammar School, what form did it take?

Oh dear, my apologies, rather a lot of questions I fear! I hope that you will have time to respond to at least some of them.</div>

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

I did not expect my account to provoke such interest nor the school to be identified so easily.

To clarify I was instructed to take down my trousers as part of the preparation. I pushed them to my ankles. It was my only caning so not for extreme behavior. Although there had been rumours of bare bottom canings I was to my knowledge the only boy in the year to get it with trousers down, and I would add only about 15% of our year were ever caned.

The scary part was the long lecture beforehand, the Head taking ages over selecting a cane while I’d been bent over for some time. Then followed by a long lecture when you had to stand to attention and if you rubbed yourself there was an extra stroke.

Previous punishments.
Hand spanked a number of time at primary school I front of the class and over the teacher’s knee. Also slippered in front of the class touching toes once at primary once at Grammar.

The Board ruler across my bottom twice at Grammar bent over the desk during maths lessons.

Three hand spankings from the Head at grammar always in private and once on the bare.

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello Dick,

Thank you for a very comprehensive and interesting response to my queries.

First the name of the school. My apologies if you would not have wished the full name of the school to appear. In my defence I can only say that I saw no reason to suppose that might be the case. In contributions on SCP experiences if contributors do feel able to identify their school it can add both authority and interest to their accounts. You identified the whereabouts of the school and gave an abbreviated version of its title and I took this to mean that you were happy for the school to be named.

If you would prefer the school name not to appear I will happily ask our Moderators if it would be possible to edit out the 3 extant references which positively identify it. Whenever circumstances permit they are most helpful in my experience. Please indicate if you wish me to request an edit.

You said that you did not expect your account to provoke such interest. Well written and literate contributions will usually provoke my interest. In your case there was also the factor of the caning over underpants. As noted in my earlier post I have not encountered many instances of this. You say that you were the only boy in your year so caned, so perhaps it was unusual at your school too.

You mention that the long preliminary lecture and being kept bent over in anticipatory apprehension for a seemingly unnecessarily lengthy period while the Head selected a cane were quite scary. Indeed so, I would think they were meant to be. Had it been me I think that unless intentions had been made crystal clear when the removal of trousers had been ordered I would have been worried that prior to the actual caning the underpants would be joining them. Do you recall if this crossed your mind at all? As you indicate that your spanking on the bare by the Headmaster had preceded your caning I would certainly expect that you would have been a little worried.

I have argued here that in formal SCP if the ritual, the shock and awe, were sufficiently impressive and intimidating there would be no need to make the actual whacks very hard at all. One of our former contributors, Renee of ‘Teachers Who Paddle’, a US Middle School Assistant Principal, seemed to share this theory and wrote:

Unfortunately at least one boy paddled by Renee told all his friends what jolly good fun it had been so that for a period she was besieged by boys demanding to be paddled instead of serving detentions, so clearly she didn’t always get the trauma or the pain quite right.

Your Headmaster was evidently more adept at achieving the required balance when caning. Interesting in this context is the penalty of an extra stroke if attempting to assuage the pain during the terminal lecture following punishment, during which you had to stand to attention. I realise that you didn’t get this. Do you know though if anyone ever did please? It would be interesting to know if they had to bend over again or if the Head just gave them a stroke across the bottom as they stood.

Your other punishments appear to me fairly typical of the era, except the hand spankings from the Headmaster at the Grammar School, one of which was on the bare. Like the caning on underpants I’d have said that at Grammar School boys being hand spanked by anyone, particularly the Headmaster, was pretty rare, and on the bare especially so! After all at Grammar School you would presumably have been aged at least 11.

Would you be prepared to say please what age you were when these Grammar School spankings took place, how they were conducted, and if there were any special circumstances which precipitated them and dictated on the bare mode for one of them? Were spankings by the Headmaster very unusual or a feature of the school’s SCP regime please?</div>

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

Indeed a most interesting and intriguing description, Dick. Thank you for taking the trouble to post it. You say that only 15% of the boys in your class got the cane but you seem to have had several occasions where the Headmaster punished your bottom in various states of undress. I wonder if you were picked out for a specific reason for this kind of punishment: you would not be the first to present a temptation to someone who found a particular boy more ‘worthy’ of cp than others. I wonder if you felt that then or (like me) much later, after reflection and less innocence?

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

Thanks for the compliments.

Yes it did cross my mind that I might have been made to take my pants down too, and when just before the cane was wielded I was instructed to lift my shirt it certainly had me worried for a minute.

As far as the extra stroke for rubbing was concerned yes I knew two boys who did receive extra, and they were made to bend over again.

I do believe that the ritual was intended as psychological punishment, the pain whilst quite severe was not as intense as I had envisaged it. Indeed I saw marks on the bottoms of boys, caned over trousers and pants that lasted longer than the four days mine did. On the other hand I also saw marks far less deep. Whichever way having experienced it once I wasn’t eager for a further dose.

I would also clarify it was 15% of the whole year not class, putting us in a small minority.

The other 3 hand spankings from the Head were all after I was 13, 2 prior and one post the caning, and, all in private. The punishment on the bare was delivered in the school swimming pool for failing to leave the pool at the end of the lesson. The Head viewed disobedience as a cardinal sin and nearly always punishable by caning. The only reason I escaped was that by being just in trunks it was convenient to make me lower them and receive a sound spanking.

In the first year a boy I witnessed a friend spanked on the bare by the Head in front of the class after a gym lesson.

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello Dick Templemeads,

Another most comprehensive and prompt response, thank you.

Clearly your Headmaster was a believer in SCP and did not hesitate to use it!

Your comment regarding the reduced intensity and persistence of the wheals from your caning as compared to those experienced by boys caned over underpants and trousers is interesting. Even with the same cane the degree of marking would presumably be dependent on a number of factors besides clothing. The force used, the number of stokes, individual build and possibly previous caning history might all be significant.

Nonetheless when the recipient was bent over touching toes in trousers those trousers would tend to be fairly tightly stretched over the target area, compressing the buttocks to some extent. I have seen it argued by persons with some experience of the process that with a highly focused punitive implement like a cane, which delivers its energy over a relatively small area, the protective effect of normal intervening clothing such as school trousers and underpants is limited. However if such clothing is tightly stretched the the effects of a given stroke may be even more drastic than if the clothing were not present. Something to do with the ability of tissue to absorb the impact by displacement and how such displacement is affected by constraining clothing apparently.

Counter-intuitive, but the advice was that all other things being equal, given a choice between thin but tightly stretched clothing and on the bare, opt for on the bare! So it is possible that your caning over underpants only might have been less painful and produced less marking than being caned over underpants and tightly stretched trousers. And if an instruction to lower your underpants had followed that to lift back your shirt you might have benefited further!

That said, I note your comment that having experienced the cane once you weren’t eager for another dose. I have the impression that a fair proportion of those caned at school came to the same conclusion. Doubtless this was why the cane was so widely used.</div>

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

AL.

Your analysis is as always not just sharp but also gives a slightly new analysis of the physics of caning. Even as a teenager I was thinking about these things but you have added some physiological points that never occurred to me. You are very right to say that in real life very few wanted to go back for more and the deterrent value was pretty high for most boys (and I guess girls).

And Dick, thanks for the extra details.

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

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Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello Tom,

Oh dear, I had intended to make this post much earlier but external factors have delayed me and now KK‘s link to his excellent ‘little list’ has partly made my point for me. I think I know KK well enough to assume that he did not mean this as a reproof, but if he did he would be well justified!

You said to me above:

I am grateful for the compliment, but I have to say that the physics and physiology of caning are definitely not my strong suit! I have never been caned, at school or anywhere else. I didn’t make it to Prefect at school, and my one-time intended career as a school teacher was extremely brief, so I have never caned anyone. I saw a cane only once during my school days and I don’t believe that I have seen a real one in the flesh since then. I may feature a couple of times on KK‘s list, but you will note that I am quoting other people. As far as I am concerned our current resident experts on canes and caning are KK and hcj. With regard to anything physics related I automatically include Alan Turing, but very sadly he seldom visits us these days.

My sole just possibly (though not necessarily) original idea here on the subject of caning or indeed any other form of CP is the ‘shock and awe’ hypothesis which proposes that if you make the ritual surrounding the process sufficiently unpleasant for an individual there is no need for the business of actually hitting them, thus avoiding all that unpleasantness with human rights campaigners, anti-SCP campaigners, do-gooders etc. Sort of a CP Room 101 concept, to quote George Orwell’s dystopian novel ‘Nineteen Eighty-Four’.

The problem with this concept is that individuals differ greatly. Easy enough for the juvenile Another_Lurker for instance. Ultra shy and very withdrawn little lad that he was, being paraded before an audience, physically restrained in an embarrassing posture and partially disrobed was quite enough. There was really no need for Miss B to actually smack his leg at all! But for an out and out extrovert ……. </div>

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

Another_Lurker refers to the fact that if CP was to be administered with trousers down it usually meant on the bare bottom. A correspondent to another forum says that at his primary school lads often had to take down their shorts for the slipper and your whacks would then be taken across your briefs. As this usually happened in the school hall, onto which most of the classrooms opened, if you happened to be going on an errand or to the toilet, you could sometimes see others being whacked by the headmaster. The correspondent used to be fascinated by the different colours and patterns of briefs and who was wearing what, so it could be quite good fun to see.

There have been several accounts on this forum of canings or slipperings on underpants but I don’t recall reading of such a punishment open to the gaze of passers-by.