Corporal punishment survey 65

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

About You: Jim Grey
Gender: Male
Approximate age when punished: 10
Approximate year of punishment: 1973
Crime committed or alleged: Out of bounds

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member: Head
Gender of staff member: Male
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc): Headmaster’s Office
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc): Tawse
Number of strokes: 1
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc): Hands
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc): Standing with arms out at shoulder height and hands doubled up
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc): School Uniform (Grey shorts, white shirt, school tie and grey V neck jersey)
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc): With one other boy

About the school: Primary School
Country: Scotland

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?: No
Do you consider the punishment effective?: Yes

Any other relevant info: I complained to a monitor that the other boy had thrown a bin at me. She took us to the headmaster who gave us both the strap when he found out that we were playing out of bounds.

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

<div style=”width:100%;background-image:url(“/realm/A_L_123/A_L_trg.gif”);”>Hello Jim Grey,

My apologies for the delay in responding to your contributions. If they are your first here, as is I think possibly the case, may I please say a personal welcome to the Forum.

Were you fortunate to only get one stroke on each occasion please, or was that pretty much the usual number in the schools you attended?

I assume from your description that the usual mode of punishment was along the hand, with the pupil facing the teacher. Was this the case please?

I note that when the PE Teacher belted you he put a scarf over your wrist to protect against the tips impacting your wrist. Was this because he belted so hard that he had difficulty in getting his length right please? I note that you don’t mention the precaution in the other two punishments you describe.

I understand that the tawse was a formidable punitive implement. Happily my only connection with it is that while on holiday bed and breakfasting in the mid 1960s, on one occasion on Loch Lomondside I saved my overnight host’s teenage daughter from being belted for lateness by getting her to school in Helensburgh in time after she’d missed the school bus. That sort of routine ‘at the school gate’ punishment would have been very unusual in England at the time but other contributors here have indicated that it wasn’t unknown in Scotland even some years later.</div>

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

Thanks for the welcome, these are indeed my first posts, although I have been lurking here for a while!

We were always belted up the palm, with hands doubled up (crossed) and in front of the teacher.

One or two strokes was the norm and the belt was rarely used in Primary School and only from P4 onwards (so age 9+). In fact I never heard of anyone else being belted by the Headmaster, so perhaps I just got him on a bad day!

In Second year at Secondary school one of the boys in my French class got 4 of the belt (2 on each hand) for shouting our obscenities. The teacher, Mr R, was rather effeminate and had difficulty controlling his classes. The boy was crying after the first stroke and both wrists were bleeding once he had received the full 4. Allegedly his parents complained, but perhaps this was just a rumour started by the boy because of his loss of status as a toughie.

In third year a friend got 3 of the belt for fighting, administered by the music teacher, Mad George. He was crying and afterwards and showed me his hands which were swollen, red and purple. His hands remained bruised for a few days, but he thought that the punishment was fair and he had no complaints.

The PE teachers were the only ones I witnessed who protected the wrists. I don’t know why this was the case, but in any event Mr S who belted me was deadly accurate, the stroke ran right up the centre of my fingers and palm to the edge of my wrist. In retrospect I really should have got 2 strokes because I was easily making the most noise. This one incident undoubtedly sparked my lifelong interest in the school strap and shortly afterwards I fabricated my own belt from an old leather suitcase I found in the loft. It looked realistic but was not very effective, however I belted myself with it fairly regularly over the next couple of years and I even got a friend when we were 13 to give me a few strokes, although having recently been belted at school himself he was not willing to reciprocate!

I later discovered that Mr S belted all his S1 boys classes en masse within the first month of the new school term, so I guess this was his way of setting out his rules and authority. An incident which occured in my S2 PE class also makes me think that he rather enjoyed the whole pantomime of a belting.

Although I was terrified of getting the school strap strangely I also really wanted to get it again, but alas I was too well behaved to manufacture an opportunity and my S2 experience was to be the last time I received corporal punishment at school. I did come very close to a serious belting in S4 but regret that I was rescued at the eleventh hour.

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

Is there still time to tell of my experiences when young.

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

Hello Jim Grey,

I would like to join Another_Lurker‘s in welcoming you to the forum. Your posts are interesting and informative. South of the Border (in the UK) the tawse remains an implement with many unanswered questions and it is good to find a forum member who may be able to tell us more about its use.

Just a quick question for now; you wrote:

In Second year at Secondary school one of the boys in my French class got 4 of the belt (2 on each hand) for shouting our obscenities. The teacher, Mr R, was rather effeminate and had difficulty controlling his classes. The boy was crying after the first stroke and both wrists were bleeding once he had received the full 4.

Was the grazing of the skin on the wrists unique in this case or did it happen occasionally when other pupils were belted? Are we talking about an inch or less up the wrists or did it go even higher?

Corporal punishment survey

Hi, I don’t know if this forum can help, but I’m trying to put together some realistic data regarding the use of corporal punishment in schools.

Reading this and other internet sources of information it is clearly very hard to distinguish between genuine accounts of CP, peoples fantasies, and role play.

School punishment books are difficult to find, or access. When they are available they only show the information that the establishments wished to disclose. They also only reflect official punishments, generally administered by the Head, consequentially they are not very representative of the general use of CP within schools.

If I study references in the media, the reports are generally only written when the incident was questionably outside the law. In England where I live, and indeed went to school, corporal punishment was legally practiced up until 1986. Therefore there would be no reason for the media to cover anything except the unusual.

Many of us however have witnessed (often first hand) the use of corporal punishment at school. If you have (as indeed have I) I’d be very grateful if you’d reply to this post giving as much accurate information as you feel comfortable with. However to keep this thread out of the realm of fantasy, I’d ask that you only post facts, and leave the creative writing and long discussions to other forums.

The information I’d love you to provide is the following:

About You:
Gender:
Approximate age when punished:
Approximate year of punishment:
Crime committed or alleged:

About the punishment
Administered by Head, or Staff member:
Gender of staff member:
Location punished (Classroom, Office, Hallway etc):
Type of punishment (Cane,Slipper,Paddle etc):
Number of strokes:
Applied to (Hand, Bottom, Legs etc):
Position adopted (Standing, Bending over Chair, Desk etc):
State of dress (Over Trousers/Skirt, panties, bare etc):
Privacy (In private, In front of Class, With another teacher etc):

About the school
Name of School:
Town:
Country:

Effectiveness
Were you ever punished again for the same offence?:
Do you consider the punishment effective?:

Any other relevant info:

Many thanks for your participation. I will reply to this post myself with the details of the CP I received.

Note: I see no reason why schools should not be named as they were operating completely within the law.

Gender; Male
Age;13
Year;1960
Crime;trying to look up teachers skirt

Administered by;teacher
Male female;female
Location;classroom
Type;cane
No of strokes 6
Applied to bottom
Position over desk
State of dress underpants
Privacy teacher

School secondary
Town
CountryGender; Male
Age;13
Year;1960
Crime;threw ball broke window

Administered by;headteacher
Male female;male
Location;assembly hall
Type;cane
No of strokes 8
Applied to bottom
Position bent over desk
State of dress underpants
Privacy in front of entire school

School secondary
Town
Country

Punished again same no
Effectiveness. Very

Gender; Male
Age;15
Year;1962
Crime; smoking

Administered by; teacher
Male female; female
Location; classroom
Type; spanking
No of strokes
Applied to bottom
Position over teachers knee
State of dress underpants
Privacy teacher

School secondary
Town
Country

Punished again same no
Effectiveness

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