Dec 30, 2018#1

right I am going to say here and now I have pinched the idea for this post off someone else idea just rephrased the question as I have said on numerous occasions having somebody called too the front of the class and put over a teachers lap for an wrong doing it seemed to gain everyone else  attention too what was happening more interesting than the lesson too some did anyone else recall this or have any thoughts or comments on this subject

Dec 30, 2018#2

My interests here derive from realism and two distinct school years in my schooling.   We had one school year when an overwhelming percentage of the total school paddlings (including mine) occurred.  Lot of reasons for that.   But, the other year that was memorable was what you reference here.   At an earlier age, we had a teacher who was very serious about homework.  She kept telling us that not turning it in was unacceptable.   One day, she called each kid who had not turned in the assignment to front of class.   She sat in her chair and they lined up to her right (our left).   She took each one to her side, asked why homework was not done.   Each kid shrugged and was immediately over her knee for 5/6 spanks over clothes.   Not terribly hard but SO embarrassing.   I could not see her hit the butt, but, had great view of their faces.   Humiliation.   I resolved then and there to do my homework
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Dec 30, 2018#3

sultanaswat you just answered my point that watching someone in your class get a humiliating spanking seems too attract more attention than the actual lesson as I stated in my post
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Dec 30, 2018#4

Sure.  I mean, why wouldn’t it?   I know that WE, by our simple presence on this board, find these things more interesting than most.   But, look, every kid in that class was mesmerized by what had just happened. Later life vanilla or not.    Later at school, when a peer was escorted to the hall for a paddling, we all looked at each other giggling.   Every one of us.  Eyes bulging as we heard the crisp smacks just outside eyesight but well within audio range.   Trust me, no one was sitting there reading the assigned lesson while that was happening.   Now, that said, pretty much every one paid very serious attention afterward.   At least for the remainder of that particular class:)
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Dec 30, 2018#5

I have posted on here previously my first class spankings we where in infants [ four too seven year olds ] where four boys had been misbehaving in the cloakroom and caught by another teacher and brought back too class where they where dealt with severely by our class teacher we all sat and watched each boy go over the teachers knee bottom bared and spanked everyone seemed too be fixed on what was happening whether they where thinking not too repeat any other  act of naughtiness or that could be them one of the boys his sister was in the  same class and sat and watched his brothers humiliating spanking
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Dec 30, 2018#6

I bet.   We were a bit older than that, but, not much.   And, I never knew of a bottom bared for a spanking at school.   In fact, I never had clothing displaced for spankings even at home.   So, for me, a hand or paddle over clothing has reality.   All bare butt stuff is fantasy.   But, that’s ok too!
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Dec 30, 2018#7

sultanswat well here in the united kingdom it could and did happen not often at lower school as I described sometimes on underwear too I went too school in the late sixties where teachers where entitled to punish in that fashion
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Dec 30, 2018#8

Oh, I don’t doubt your experience.   Just saying that was not way it was for us/me.   That does not give me license to be skeptical about your post and I am not.   I have had others over the years doubt my experiences at school, simply because that is not how it was for them.   Not sure why.    This subject, both at home and school, has changed so much over last 50 years or so.   As a result, all of our experiences will be different based on geography, age, and public/private institutions.   I feel like this is a place to share experiences not doubt each other’s posts.    Thank you for sharing your experience
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Jan 03, 2019#9

We never had to bare our backsides, but in grade school it was common for the teachers to lift your dress or make the boys pull their pants down for a spanking on their undies,  Fortunately, that ceased around 1970.
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Jan 03, 2019#10

I believe this to be true in our area too as I heard of such things from older cousins and other family.   I was a bit behind this time.   As I have said other places, unique part about my time on this subject is from time I was in 3rd grade until 8th (6 school years) the rules re CP changed each year in effort to fend off the just beginning vocal anti cp crowd.   It seems, in retrospect, that the pro CP crowd kept hoping they would arrive at a satisfactory compromise and the “lunatics” would be quiet.   But, in my town, anti CP crowd eventually won 6-7 years after I graduated (and 10-12 years after I got paddled).   I have to assume the no clothing removed or displaced “concession” happened before I was at school
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Jan 03, 2019#11

CathyG wrote:We never had to bare our backsides, but in grade school it was common for the teachers to lift your dress or make the boys pull their pants down for a spanking on their undies,  Fortunately, that ceased around 1970.

Hi Cathy,

Even if you were not not made to suffer the indignity of presenting your bare bottom for a spanking, I imagine that your thin underwear offered little protection.

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Jan 04, 2019#12

I only remember seeing boys receiving school corporal punishment in class. I never remember anyone, boys or teachers referring to it as spanking. Spanking was what some parents did at home back then. I started grammar school in 1958. The whole class watched in amazement the first time a boy in the class was called to the front and told to bend over. Various teachers had different ways to punish, a plimsoll, ruler, even a short whippy little cane and a few applied the palm of their hand to the seat of the boy’s trousers.

Some lads just bent over and took the whacks without a murmur. I presumed that these were boys who were spanked at home by their parents. Over the months we became used to seeing this happen. Then one day I was caught chatting during a lesson. I was called to the front and the teacher produced a plimsoll. He bent me over his desk and gave me two hard wallops. I don’t remember being at all embarrassed as I’d seen others take much the same from this teacher. My backside stung and it hurt when I sat down afterwards.

If we had a new teacher it was always interesting to find out if he used corporal punishment in his lessons and how it was given.

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Jan 05, 2019#13

Seeing other boys taking it in class was a bit of a diversion particularly if the lesson was a bit boring. It was the more boring lessons that boys often talked in too. I remember once asking the boy sitting next to me what the time was as I was hoping the lesion was almost over.

The geography teacher spotted me talking and I was called to the front. Before I reached the front he had already taken the plimsoll from his drawer. I was asked what I had said and told him that I had asked the time. The boy in the front desk was asked to stand to one side. He knew why and took his book with him. I was told to bend over his desk. The plimsoll whacked across my bottom three times. The whole class stopped reading their text books and watched. I’m not sure if they enjoyed seeing me taking the ‘slipper’ but it added interest to an otherwise boring lesson!

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Jan 05, 2019#14

They did.   I don’t care if spanko today or not.   They watched
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Jan 05, 2019#15

Looking back I’m not we enjoyed watching friends get spanked , but did revel in the nasty boys getting their just desserts. Also if another boy was being spanked, slippered etc it meant you weren’t!
There was the sound that made everyone wince, but no one i recall ever made fun of a boy who got punished as we all knew it would probably be our turn one day. As others mentioned the ritual of having to walk back to the desk with bum on fire and avoid looking at your mates as you were being brave i remember well.
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Jan 05, 2019#16

Stuartsummers wrote:Looking back I’m not we enjoyed watching friends get spanked , but did revel in the nasty boys getting their just desserts. Also if another boy was being spanked, slippered etc it meant you weren’t!
There was the sound that made everyone wince, but no one i recall ever made fun of a boy who got punished as we all knew it would probably be our turn one day. As others mentioned the ritual of having to walk back to the desk with bum on fire and avoid looking at your mates as you were being brave i remember well.

Hi Stuart,

You’re right, almost a sense of relief when another boy was whacked during a lesson. It was unlikely that the slipper or cane would be used again in that lesson unless someone really misbehaved. You mentioned ‘nasty boys’; I think some teachers whacked the persistent troublemakers harder than others.

Like me it would seem that you went to a UK senior school in much the same era as me; late 1950s/mid 60s. I have to admit that I did wonder it the boys who seemed to ‘absorb’ whacks were used to being spanked at home or they were just braver than me. I knew that some of my friends, particularly the ones from big family, were spanked at home but, of course, had no knowledge of others in my class.

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Jan 05, 2019#17

Hi Six. I’m a little younger than you having been at school from 1970s onwards. Born in 1964 so one of the last generation really to experience cp at school in the UK.
You are right about the sense of relief that it wasnt you!
When i was 11-13 (year 7 and 8 nowadys) my form teacher ran a points based system..every started with 0. Get +5 and you got a reward, go to -5 and that meant a slippering. The scores were on display so everyone knew who was close to a whacking. Being on -4 was a nervy experience and I remember my first time of getting the dreaded -5.
The punishment was not given in class but you did feel bad for or laugh at / enjoy it ,depending on whether you liked them or not, a boy who hit the mark!
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Jan 05, 2019#18

Our games master pinned a list with black edges on the notice board on which boy’s names were added for a variety of infractions eg dirty games kit, disobeying instructions etc. If your name went up twice in one month 3 hard whacks with a plimsoll over PE shorts. It was like getting a yellow card in a football match but two yellow cards meant a red backside. Three entries on the list would result in six of the best. Something to be avoided at all cost.
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Jan 06, 2019#19

1965 it was a whole different world when it came to spanking in front of others as priorly shown here.  The build up is delightful.  Italian tempers are worse than Irish tempers.

I love the comment about St Agnes.  They’re protest hunger strike ended in a force feeding.  He didn’t need tubes to end their strike.  It starts at 1:23:00.  The girls know how to get under his skin.

https://m.ok.ru/video/286872308387

https://c7.alamy.com/comp/DXK9H4/the-ba … DXK9H4.jpg

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Jan 06, 2019#20

Thanks very much, American Way, for the link.
Great book and film. “The Battle of the Villa Fiorita” by Rumer Godden
See https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/992 … la_Fiorita
The spanking was faithful to the book, though not the aftermath. However, the children won in the end….
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Jan 06, 2019#21

Hello American Way,

If it were real the woman who slaps the little girl in the face and the man who spanks the other little girl would be bullies, worthy of nothing but absolute contempt.  However the colour in that movie is beautiful.  I’ve never taken much interest in the cinema, whereas you are clearly an expert.  Was it some special process?

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Jan 06, 2019#22

Hello Another Lurker

Puzzled by your comment.

The children were being thoroughly obnoxious and the punishments were not that severe. However my sympathy in the book was always with the children. I was both pleased and sad when they won.

Much SCP was considerably harsher and given with far less justification. However in the case of SCP I would often tend to have sympathy with the teacher. Someone in such a frustrating and thankless job needs to have some way of retaliating against their tormentors.

I have attached the spanking scene from the book – very close to the film.

Battle of the Villa Fiorita extract.jpg (95.61KiB)
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Jan 07, 2019#23

I know it doesn’t really relate to this site, but if you look at the villa fiorita blogsite, there are literally dozens, hundreds even, of mainstream films showing young girls being spanked. Not really my scene, but as it’s mainstream, it can’t be considered porn.
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Jan 07, 2019#24

Hello Oliver Sydney,

Thank you for going to so much trouble.

I confess that for various reasons, mainly because it’s very compact and tricky to strip to get at the mother board, and having done it once I’m not keen to do it again any time soon, I haven’t yet fitted a sound card to the rescued from a skip PC I’m currently using.  I am far too mean to spend money on new computer hardware when there’s tons of it being throw away needlessly because of trivial and easily fixed hardware problems.  ????  The current favourite is a rack server so never had sound originally, though it is much better equipped for I/O and expansion than the average server.

Consequently I had no sound and what I saw was a woman hitting a child in the face (always wrong IMHO) and an aggressive large male trying to force feed  a small child and then beating the child for for not co-operating.

Neither of these things seemed to me to be acceptable, hence my reaction

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Jan 07, 2019#25

stujos I know I am going too be castigated for what I about too say but  I watched the film and you may consider it porn but the film was made in 1965 and I would not doubt  fathers have spanked there daughter in that fashion the father was wrong in trying too force fed the girl but I think the girls stubborn pig headedness had drove him to his actions
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Jan 07, 2019#26

No, I said it probably wasn’t porn, as it is part of a mainstream film. Whether a whole site dedicated to such films is right, I leaave it to you to debate.
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Jan 07, 2019#27

Hello stujos,

If I interpret your above contribution #26 correctly I think I share your sentiments.  However I have neither looked at the site concerned nor, as noted above, seen the video clip with sound

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Jan 08, 2019#28

I’ve seen the bit of the film that includes the meal and the ensuing spanking. It is rather brutal, well trying to force the poor girl to eat something she obviously doesn’t like is brutal. The spanking was really much as many youngsters of that era would have experienced; six hard slaps across her pants, skirt pulled back. Her pants appear to be of the frilly variety but nevertheless the slaps would have really hurt. As a parental spanking it could hardly be called excessive but the reason for it and the fact it was done in front of others and in anger it was very wrong.

As part of full length film is it perfectly acceptable but some may regard it as unpleasant to view but it was just a small part of the film. The following scene with the other girl in their bedroom asking to see the girl’s spanked bottom comes over as perfectly natural and in a way charming.

For those not wishing to view the whole film the scene is at about 1hr 25minutes into the film.

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Jan 08, 2019#29

I’ll get text size right next time, at least no one will need their glasses to read the last one!
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Jan 08, 2019#30

sixofthebsst I agree totally with your sentiment as I stated earlier this was a fact of life in them days I am just saying that people who find that brutal obvious never lived through  that era
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Jan 08, 2019#31

The book ‘Battle of the Villa Fiorita was written in 1963 and filmed in 1965.  I was born in 1942.  Whether that qualifies me as having ‘lived through that era’ as iankenrick put it above, I have no idea.

The fact remains that on viewing American Way‘s video link I was seized with a sense of something unpleasant and contrived.  Perhaps it was the violence, perhaps it was the little girls’ rather strange costumes, I’ve no idea.

However I was not overly surprised to see stujos‘s contribution #26 above regarding the content of a Blog site with the same name as the book and film.

Maybe if I read the book or watched the whole of the film I would change my view.  It is though unlikely that I will do either.

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Jan 08, 2019#32

another lurker I I found the force feeding part very unnecessary and abhorrent but it maybe for the benefit of the film script it showed a father pushed to his limit by the girls pig headed stubborn defiance of his will and when she spat out the food that drove him too his reaction I do not know whether you actually watched the spanking scene itself but the girl never made  a murmur during her spanking only showed any really anger when stood up after the spanking was over
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Jan 09, 2019#33

Thank you Another Lurker for your comments in reply to me.

I thought the film captured the exasperation of adults quite well. Perhaps exacerbated by guilt. The scenes were perhaps overly melodramatic. Slapping in the face is not good but understandable. Forcing food is stupid and counter productive. I have no idea whether the costumes were strange.

The spanking portrayal seemed realistic. In 1962/63 I had a teacher who spanked boys of that age over his knee – unusual and I would guess frowned on in Australian state schools. I recently read in an old school magazine that the previous year he had taught in a Prep School near London. The standard boys’ reaction was passivity, as it was for the many hand canings I witnessed at high school. An occasional grimace of pain was acceptable. Anger or tears would have been very unwise for different reasons.

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Jan 09, 2019#34

Oliver Sydney: I agree with all you say about the scenes from that film. The spanking wasn’t that extreme however it should not have been done in anger and many, I sure, would agree that it should have been done in private. Of course this was a film not real life.

I don’t know what age the girl in the film was supposed to be, 9 or 10 perhaps, difficult to guess with dress and styles. Such a punishment have been seen as quite appropriate for both boys and girls of that age back then.

There are a host of well known named actors in the film but I don’t think it was ever seen as a box office success in British cinemas.

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Jan 09, 2019#35

The Villa Fiorita video site is Italian. A lot of the films are old, of poor quality, both in appearance and content and almost all are foreign. But it does show how many films depicting young girls being spanked were made.
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Jan 09, 2019#36

I went through school mostly in the 70’s (spanking banned after that) and i have no recollection of a formal spanking in front of a class, taken to office. You only saw a warning swat or a quick tap to hands with a ruler. So i guess looking back i did enjoy it if i found out some one i didn’t really like got spanked at school (more like the ha ha feeling)…but in the moment like the two witnessed spankings i actually heard that i wrote about here, (13 at time) i was much to worried/concentrating on me going next. After the experience and reflecting of those two incidents i did find some level of “enjoyment” ( more like wow its just not me and curiosity of how they handled it/bottom after etc. and any  i heard or saw at home around that age going forward.
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Jan 13, 2019#37

WWT wrote:

CathyG wrote:We never had to bare our backsides, but in grade school it was common for the teachers to lift your dress or make the boys pull their pants down for a spanking on their undies,  Fortunately, that ceased around 1970.

Hi Cathy,

Even if you were not not made to suffer the indignity of presenting your bare bottom for a spanking, I imagine that your thin underwear offered little protection.

Sure, it did not give us much, if any, protection.  Your bottom felt like a thousand needles pricking the skin.

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May 12, 2019#38

I guess you could say I enjoyed it from a morbid curiosity unless the kid that got it was someone you disliked.  The classroom always became eerily quiet when an in-classroom spanking occurred, unless it was the entire classroom getting it.  It was interesting to see the “tough” boys get it because they did everything to not cry out. Mrs. Jones of my 3rd grade was quite the spanker and she really laid into the boys, especially if they were of the tough variety.
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May 13, 2019#39

This 1844 debate between corporal punishment and moral suasion assembled a hubbub.  Third column from the right.

http://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/hi … Page=false

The public flogging of a male scholar in an all male class by a male teacher had its proponents.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 79%2C9152/

Such punishments as depicted involving spectators of the same gender with a woman birching a girl on the shoulders would not be beyond the realm of fantasy.

This would be.

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ixnBy–PAGM/ … ol+caning1

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May 13, 2019#40

I didn’t know that the merits of scp was discussed back in 1844 but it obviously was.

With ref to the excellent picture, the public punishment should act as a deterrent for both the audience and the recipient  – who would want to experience that!

I have to admit that I would have enjoyed seeing it though!

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Jun 05, 2019#41

They may be representing their schools.  The observers are certainly enjoying viewing the event as are the 1.2 million viewers in this prior posted video.  Maybe I am alone in thinking this belt whipping is a bit severe and the coach was derelict in his duty.  You join a team not expecting this if it is your misfortune that your birthday falls in that sport’s season.  You shouldn’t be almost left in tears in what amounts to a televised hazing especially on national television.  They are not consensual partaker.  I hope the family birthday will be that night in a restaurant.  It won’t be a birthday they will ever forget and for the wrong reason.

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Jun 26, 2019#42

Relentless annual birthdays need to be discouraged. A few birthdays can bring benefits but soon it becomes a case of diminishing returns. After a few decades, the detriments of growing older overwhelm the benefits and decrepitude sets in.

It is unclear whether the belt is adequate for the task of deterring aging if not applied with enthusiasm and determination. Is there a dearth of 18 year olds in Poland?

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Jan 16, 2020#43

In fourth grade I routinely saw girls hit with a ruler and in third grade I saw a girls spanked over the knee.   I wasn’t even aware that a girl would be ever immune from the same consequence.

New England American chivalry that spared girls of the birch or the leather tawse doesn’t spare them the paddle in the south to this day.   Girls were no less troublesome in 1893 nor any less paddle worthy in New England nor southern belles today.

Feel free to click the persistent link.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn … 72%2C5220/

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